Bioweapons

You'd think that these would be more common. It's pretty damn easy to grow microbes and to spread them in public spaces. Besides the anthrax letters, the only other major case I can think of is Rajneeshpuram and salmonella.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Biological weapons are trash

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How so?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Uncontrollable
        They're just a shitty terror weapon and nothing else

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Also, biological weapons share the same drawback as chemical ones in that it’s fairly easy to make something that can kill hundreds of thousands of people. It’s hard to actually USE it to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Distribution is the hard part.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are biological weapons such as anthrax that don't spread easily from person to person.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they're also difficult to handle and surprisingly difficult to disperse (iirc the 'thrax is a heavier than air powder)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Correct, even if you were exposed to Anthrax in the same room, you’d have to directly inhale the spores. USPS did some demos where they capture the path of the “powder” when you open an envelope. Basically don’t go disturbing that which is already released and just leave the area.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Picrel is cutaneous anthrax, as described in

                True, rinderpest and anthrax definitely have their use cases. Thanks for reminding me anon.
                In this case, the ability for anthrax to lay dormant in loose soil is actually devastating to livestock. While still not practical for something like the American Plains, Soviet doctrine may have called for something like that for the UK when it mattered.

                [...]
                Many such cases. Imagine being close to even ampules of organophosphates without a SCBA or fully sealed mask/suit combo.

                >atropine autoinjectors
                Very cool to work on. Essentially, you have single-use, very quick doses of anticholinergics to counteract the exitotoxicity that nerve agents cause. There's also the pneumatic injection systems, but I don't work on that.

                [...]
                If you come into contact with spores via a mucous membrane or open cut, or else ingest them, the result is still awful but generally less fatal.
                Respiratory anthrax is fricking terrifying if you aren't able to get antibiotics. Double-digit case fatality rate.

                [...]
                I worked with the Chinese in November 2019. Sketchy, the usual shit about keeping info close and scarce, but the virus does not conform to either our capabilities nor the precedent ChiCom experience with SARS. It's definitely a zoonosis, but possible that a sample was poorly treated in the lab.
                >inb4 sympathizer
                I hate China with the power of a thousand suns. My life is shorter having spent 10 years there, and I actually got SARS because the public hygiene in wet markets is ass. Nuke 'em now, gas 'em later, happy will I be. Just accepting what the Telegraph says is cringe, and deserves more nuance.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >he forgot 2020 onwards

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A combination of malice and incompetence. The Chinese lab leaked the virus, and self-serving autocrats took advantage of the situation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The Chinese lab leaked the virus
        it's still unknown if it leaked from a lab or was the result of Chinamen eating gutter oil soaked roadkill in a wet market. It's impossible to say where it came from initially, and all evidence as to the true origins have probably already been destroyed, but it's still the CCP's fault for covering it up instead of nipping it in the bud, no matter what caused it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          wrong, moron. HURR DURR DID THE CORONAVIRUS COME FROM THE WET MARKET (one of fricking millions around the world) OR THE INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCHING CRONOVIRUSES.
          GEE I FRICKING WONDER.
          Fricking slit your dick off troon, you will definitely be a woman.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Didn't they just confirm that Fauci and his troon-goons were doing illegal gain-of-function research?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah. Theyve also been doing shit in space for at least 15 years, apparrntly stuff mutates faster up there

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, good, we're just straight-up borrowing plot-points from b-movies now.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It wasn't "just" confirmed, that was ages ago. The things that we 100% know for sure are:
              >the lab was doing research on how to make these specific viruses as bad as possible
              >the lab was being funded by the organization Fauci was the director of and he absolutely would've known it
              >the virus originated in the lab
              >a day did not go by where Faucci didn't lie about what he knew about the lab and where the virus came from

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In more civilized times Fauci would be stood against a brick wall.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Mass media has had the incredible effect of totally atrophying the public's ability to think and feel. They believe that if something is on the news it's a big deal, so if it's not on the news anymore it's not a big deal. They know whether it's good or bad based off the presenter's tone, the facial expressions, the word choice/lingo in the headlines, the emotion of the images used, without ever processing it themselves to consider how they feel about it. Everyone is on board with distrusting the media, but I think most people would be shocked and disappointed in a way they would've never predicted if it was ever truly revealed to them how much the public has totally given up on processing information for themselves. 40 years ago public figures would be shot at from rooftops for the kind of stuff that's on the news every day now. They're not because the tone of the room is so controlled and the dangerous subjects so quickly cycled out that the emotional reaction just isn't there. A system only puts their own against a brick wall if they're worried about the public coming for the rest of them, too.
                Extra point for those with a high enough power level to handle it: feds are confirmed to lurk in places where young men in despair might be contemplating violence. They turn these people away from attacking public figures and instead channel them toward killing random innocent people. I sincerely believe this is the only reason we don't have virgins with deer rifles hollowing out politicians on a monthly basis.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Stop samegaygin, conspiracy schizo. Also, 40 ears ago morons like you would be forced to shut the frick up and never given a plattform to spread your moroniation. The emre fact that you're free to spread this brainrot of yours across the internet is in itself indisputable proof of it being idiotic brainrot. The "control" you rave about is simply a vast majority of people not buying your moronic shit and telling you as much, and the media reflecting that same public opinion. You're not special. You don't know this one thing all the sheeple don't. You're just a blind, arrogant, ignorant schizo who is too delusional to discern his own incompetence, even while everyone around him does.

                >They turn these people away from attacking public figures and instead channel them toward killing random innocent people.
                Cool story, bro. Are you wearing your tinfoil hat while writing this, or are the mind control rays free to get you?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                LMAO. In "more civilized times", you would have been forced to take the shot at gunpoint. There would have been no debate and any moron trying to spread conspiracy moroniation impeding the anti-epidemic measures would have found themselves shut up, shut away or up against a wall for literally endangering the public and national security.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Going to remind everyone that feds accidentally outted themselves as aggressively trying to steer conversation on the chans when the warrant used to get betterchan's data on a mass shooter included screencaps that revealed their (You)s. Intelligence agencies aren't operated by masterminds, they just have infinite money and resources. Replying to these posts for no particular reason:

                Stop samegaygin, conspiracy schizo. Also, 40 ears ago morons like you would be forced to shut the frick up and never given a plattform to spread your moroniation. The emre fact that you're free to spread this brainrot of yours across the internet is in itself indisputable proof of it being idiotic brainrot. The "control" you rave about is simply a vast majority of people not buying your moronic shit and telling you as much, and the media reflecting that same public opinion. You're not special. You don't know this one thing all the sheeple don't. You're just a blind, arrogant, ignorant schizo who is too delusional to discern his own incompetence, even while everyone around him does.

                >They turn these people away from attacking public figures and instead channel them toward killing random innocent people.
                Cool story, bro. Are you wearing your tinfoil hat while writing this, or are the mind control rays free to get you?

                >Chinese lab leaked the virus
                Nope. The supposed leak supposedly happened in Oct or Nov, but sewage treatment samples in Europe (France and Spain) turned up COVID from August. It was already in the wild in Europe at least two if not three or four months (minimum) prior to qanon conspiratard disinfo campaign.

                Nest time check your timeline before posting conspiratard bullshit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The covid measures were stupid, unnecessary, and unsuccessful. You lost.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The covid measures were stupid, unnecessary, and unsuccessful. You lost.
                shut up clown, the "covid measures" were started half a year after the fact, its too late to have quarantine when the disease is already in the city

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like you agree

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                they were started literally over half a year too late to be any use, but thats indication of poor leadership, not the measures

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So they were stupid, unnecessary, and unsuccessful

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no, taking cover in population shelter is not stupid, ordering people to go into the shelter week after the bombs drop is stupid, and instead of fixating on quality of leadership, you focus on the shelters

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So they were stupid, unnecessary, and unsuccessful

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So the measures which were taken to contain covid were stupid, unnecessary, and unsuccessful

                body armor isn't stupid, unnecessary or unsuccessful, you're all of those when you don't realize when your commanding officer orders you to dress body armor on dead and wounded its your commanders whos trash, not the armor

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What a terrible metaphor

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no, you blame the cover for cover not working when YOU are between cover and the enemy, you're an actual moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >HURR DURR DID THE CORONAVIRUS COME FROM THE WET MARKET (one of fricking millions around the world) OR THE INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCHING CRONOVIRUSES.
            man, you're a fricking moron for pretending to know for certain where the virus came from when there are so many possible sources. The entire population of China is basically trying their hardest to become patient zero for some new horrible virus. The Wuhan Institute of Virology wasn't even the only virology biolab in Wuhan, there is another one that is less than half a kilometer from the wet market where it the virus was first found. Nobody knows for sure, that doesn't mean it didn't come from a lab, but it doesn't mean that it did. You fricking mongoloid moron.
            >slit your dick off
            But I need that to keep porking your hambeast of a mother.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >millions of dice rolls
            >one dice roll

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Covid 19 was developed at bioweapon research. In nature genes don't just splice parts from various different DNA strands together, that's a human in a lab thing. The only unknown at this point is if the leak was accidental or intentional. Sure the wet market could have been selling test animals used for trials from the lab or something similarly stupid, but covid was 100% engineered by people. You could argue they were just doing corna virus research at the lab to cure the common cold, but it's china.

          Also it doesn't take past midwit thinking to see why many world governments with aging populations want to kill off old people. They're an economic burden. They take up limited resources. They don't produce anything. "We should just kill old people" is not a popular political stance. They had both intent and motive.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >In nature genes don't just splice parts from various different DNA strands together
            it's called a transposon, idk about where you are from, but where I'm from they teach about that in highschool biology.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposable_element
            >Covid 19 was developed at bioweapon research.
            if it were it bears none of the hallmarks of it and would indicate that some shitty Chinese lab with barely any safety precautions has access to substantial breakthroughs in genetic engineering that western researchers haven't even theorized of yet. That seems improbable.
            https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
            >You could argue they were just doing corna virus research at the lab to cure the common cold, but it's china.
            they were researching corona viruses to get that sweet sweet grant money. They were doing it poorly and dangerously because they're Chinese and don't value life.
            >it doesn't take past midwit thinking to see why many world governments with aging populations want to kill off old people.
            yeah, but that doesn't mean it was done on purpose, most diseases kill old people disproportionately, old people are fragile as frick.
            >They had both intent and motive.
            motive they had, intent is dubious. I'd argue that nobody in any government has any long term plan because the job exclusively attracts sociopathic manchildren who are too busy stabbing each other in the back or defending against stabs in the back to make long term plans.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              So is that shit troonsposable and happens normally, and all they needed was to make more of the most transmissible virus they managed to get, or is it "too advanced" for """muh western""" researchers? I'd say get your story straight, but you're guzzling too much soi sauce to be straight.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            homie, old people are the ones who shut down the earth because "oh no, this could affect meeee!"
            The virus was created in a Wuhan lab, and Fauchi directly funded it. Reality is stranger (and more grisly) than fiction.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The Chinese lab leaked the virus
          Literally zero evidence of any usch thing, nor has any credible lab found any markers of the virus being anything other than another random zoonotic mutation. Here's your tinfoil hat.

          [...]
          >covering it up
          They literally started calling the WHO at the first sign of what was then diagnosed as nothing but a funny-looking case of pneumonia. By the time anyone including them even knew for sure that it was a new bug, it had already left China. Like, the first cases outside of China that are now known literally predate the originally assumed Patient Zero.

          [...]
          > In nature genes don't just splice parts from various different DNA strands together
          Outright false.

          >muh grand international conspiracy of "many world governments"
          Okay. Here's your tinfoil hat.

          morons who werent there when we pulled the data from american medical journals and china's web lmao

          >Literally zero evidence of any usch thing, nor has any credible lab found
          Brother, evidence for it being a lab leak is growing at such a pace even Wikipedia isn't being allowed to call it a conspiracy theory any more.

          the evidence was rather solid back in 2020.
          it was already well proven that they were working ON THE VIRUS there.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's still unknown if it leaked from a lab

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The Chinese lab leaked the virus
        Literally zero evidence of any usch thing, nor has any credible lab found any markers of the virus being anything other than another random zoonotic mutation. Here's your tinfoil hat.

        >The Chinese lab leaked the virus
        it's still unknown if it leaked from a lab or was the result of Chinamen eating gutter oil soaked roadkill in a wet market. It's impossible to say where it came from initially, and all evidence as to the true origins have probably already been destroyed, but it's still the CCP's fault for covering it up instead of nipping it in the bud, no matter what caused it.

        >covering it up
        They literally started calling the WHO at the first sign of what was then diagnosed as nothing but a funny-looking case of pneumonia. By the time anyone including them even knew for sure that it was a new bug, it had already left China. Like, the first cases outside of China that are now known literally predate the originally assumed Patient Zero.

        Covid 19 was developed at bioweapon research. In nature genes don't just splice parts from various different DNA strands together, that's a human in a lab thing. The only unknown at this point is if the leak was accidental or intentional. Sure the wet market could have been selling test animals used for trials from the lab or something similarly stupid, but covid was 100% engineered by people. You could argue they were just doing corna virus research at the lab to cure the common cold, but it's china.

        Also it doesn't take past midwit thinking to see why many world governments with aging populations want to kill off old people. They're an economic burden. They take up limited resources. They don't produce anything. "We should just kill old people" is not a popular political stance. They had both intent and motive.

        > In nature genes don't just splice parts from various different DNA strands together
        Outright false.

        >muh grand international conspiracy of "many world governments"
        Okay. Here's your tinfoil hat.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >They literally started calling the WHO at the first sign of what was then diagnosed as nothing but a funny-looking case of pneumonia.
          I haven't paid much attention to this since the early days, but I was under the impression that while they did contact the WHO, they didn't do anything to restrict travel to the area or warn travelers because it was a major travel holiday.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The Taiwanese were the ones who warned the WHO on Dec 31, 2019. Not the filthy gommunists who manufactured the Wuhan Colonavilus (tm) in the Wuhan Institute of Vilology. Notice how even the dirty pajeets straight up admitted there was a new variant mutating in their country, instead of trying the usual gommunist lie of "wait, it actually happened in Italy, no wait Brazil, no wait Pakistan" in a desperate bid to get their betters to keep doing business with them. What the gommunists did do, however, is invite all those other countries to some shitty """Military World Games""" not too far from the lab where they were explicitly researching how to make a virus more transmissible.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Literally zero evidence of any usch thing, nor has any credible lab found
          Brother, evidence for it being a lab leak is growing at such a pace even Wikipedia isn't being allowed to call it a conspiracy theory any more.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Not mentioning Covid

          Ching chong ding dong go frick yourself. Nanking didn't happen but it should have happened and will happen again. Kiss my ass. TCD.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>The Chinese lab leaked the virus
          >Literally zero evidence of any usch thing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The Chinese
            >Leaked

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Chinese lab leaked the virus
        Nope. The supposed leak supposedly happened in Oct or Nov, but sewage treatment samples in Europe (France and Spain) turned up COVID from August. It was already in the wild in Europe at least two if not three or four months (minimum) prior to qanon conspiratard disinfo campaign.

        Nest time check your timeline before posting conspiratard bullshit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lab leaked the virus
          >Nope.
          There are been ample confirmation that this was a chinese lab leak and your bullshit is just making me want to kill chang. I'm not debating it with you. Its time for stopping food exports to china from the EU and US until you stop being moronic commie frickwits.

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/04/us-shared-gobsmacking-lab-leak-evidence-with-uk-pandemic/

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/17/wuhan-lab-leak-china-same-time-as-covid/

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/01/covid-19-likely-chinese-lab-fbi-director-says/

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The hard part isn't making it, the hard part is not getting killed by your own shit while making it.
    Lots of caves full of dead sand Black folk and scientific equipment.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Lots of caves full of dead sand Black folk and scientific equipment.
      I'd like to read up on that. Links to verified events?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You'd think that these would be more common.
    Did you just forget the last 4 years entirely?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >look mom I posted it again!
    frick off

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Importing migrants is the most effective bioweapon

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Indian cult
    >their grand terror attack is a disease that causes uncontrollable shitting
    Maybe they were just trying to make Oregon more like home.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile this absolute unit managed to set up a sarin factory and only had lower quality than hoped for because they had to rush production.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        thunderf00t makes fun of them because how little they achieved

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't that the video where he was trying to claim that AR-15s were way more dangerous than Sarin gas?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The video where he was being an idiot because he doesn't know there's a difference between military grade nerve agents and some homemade crap?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You'd think that these would be more common
    They are common. They're just not used the way you expect them to be used. What do you think the Covid vaccine was? And have you ever heard of tick-borne red meat allergy?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only "measures" necessary would be to shoot everyone who'd ever been to china, and round up any squinty-eyed mongs who had the nerve to go to the countries of their betters into camps.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So the measures which were taken to contain covid were stupid, unnecessary, and unsuccessful

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A chink ban and the litany of madness that occured during Covid are two completely different things.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Relying purely on bioweapons is dumb
    The modern soldier is innoculated to every disease and even if you spend years making your super secret super deadly microbe with accompanied vaccine you can't actually use it because even being suspected of using bioweapons puts you on everyone shitlist

    They're only kinda, maybe, sort of useful in terrorism and only if the terrorist really hated old people and babies

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    1. Biological warfare is both possible and common, especially after Unit 731, and more acutely as it was advanced during 1950-1970. Initial attempts suffered from poor vectors (i.e., typhoid not developing due to low concentrations in Manchuria) or poor virulence (i.e., native strains of plague; endemic immunity). Anthrax is an example of poor virulence, and needs good vectors (dispersal and persistence) to inflict casualties.
    2. It's hard to grow microbes that you want without a relevant test to see how it would work. These days we can use cell & gene media and genetic analysis, but that only became possible at scale in the 1980s. Unit 731 sidestepped this by using humans, but found that strains in the lab and the field are two entirely different beasts.
    3. Detectability. If you have a rough idea of your own strains, you can pretty much determine another party was the source. It's also just not effective compared to chemical weapons here; if you will eventually find out who did it, why use a slow burn, low-impact attack?
    4. BWs are designed as of recent (1970s-on) to be easy to administer prophylaxis, and generally deployed when either that or antidotes are available. Anthrax and smallpox vaccines, influenza antivirals, specific antibiotics, etc..
    5. The normie answer: "what if they spread to your own dudes?" While not wrong, that defeats the entire purpose of asymmetric protection from your own BW.
    Idk, they're scary as dicks, but not even close to nerve agents in that regard. Maybe hemorrhagic fevers? Those are often awful, but you run into problems with almost all of my points here, so it was only used once or so. Not very effective. Neither was smallpox, plague, or typhoid.
    >tl;dr - biological weapons are scary in concept, but tame once you know them. Still like my hands and legs, so no anthrax for me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there's also the often overlooked use of bioweapons targeting livestock and crops which could inflict serious economic lossess on your enemy with a significant lower risk to you

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True, rinderpest and anthrax definitely have their use cases. Thanks for reminding me anon.
        In this case, the ability for anthrax to lay dormant in loose soil is actually devastating to livestock. While still not practical for something like the American Plains, Soviet doctrine may have called for something like that for the UK when it mattered.

        https://i.imgur.com/i25bx4a.jpeg

        Former CBRNgay here; I had a case where some semi moronic guy made his own toxin, from the similar to Ricin, sold on dark and was used in murder plot which almost was successful had he gotten the toxicity right. Many YouTube wannabe mad scientists just wind up poisoning themselves.

        Many such cases. Imagine being close to even ampules of organophosphates without a SCBA or fully sealed mask/suit combo.

        >atropine autoinjectors
        Very cool to work on. Essentially, you have single-use, very quick doses of anticholinergics to counteract the exitotoxicity that nerve agents cause. There's also the pneumatic injection systems, but I don't work on that.

        https://i.imgur.com/iURT3Rm.gif

        Correct, even if you were exposed to Anthrax in the same room, you’d have to directly inhale the spores. USPS did some demos where they capture the path of the “powder” when you open an envelope. Basically don’t go disturbing that which is already released and just leave the area.

        If you come into contact with spores via a mucous membrane or open cut, or else ingest them, the result is still awful but generally less fatal.
        Respiratory anthrax is fricking terrifying if you aren't able to get antibiotics. Double-digit case fatality rate.

        lab leaked the virus
        >Nope.
        There are been ample confirmation that this was a chinese lab leak and your bullshit is just making me want to kill chang. I'm not debating it with you. Its time for stopping food exports to china from the EU and US until you stop being moronic commie frickwits.

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/05/04/us-shared-gobsmacking-lab-leak-evidence-with-uk-pandemic/

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/17/wuhan-lab-leak-china-same-time-as-covid/

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/03/01/covid-19-likely-chinese-lab-fbi-director-says/

        I worked with the Chinese in November 2019. Sketchy, the usual shit about keeping info close and scarce, but the virus does not conform to either our capabilities nor the precedent ChiCom experience with SARS. It's definitely a zoonosis, but possible that a sample was poorly treated in the lab.
        >inb4 sympathizer
        I hate China with the power of a thousand suns. My life is shorter having spent 10 years there, and I actually got SARS because the public hygiene in wet markets is ass. Nuke 'em now, gas 'em later, happy will I be. Just accepting what the Telegraph says is cringe, and deserves more nuance.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >not from a lab
    >ignore the fact it was called Wuhan flu originally
    >ignore the fact Wuhan has a biological research lab
    >ignore Chinese researchers were arrested in Canada for smuggling viruses to the Wuhan lab
    >ignore the fact the same research lab has had safety breaches before including having windows blown out
    But nah it was the bats dude

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      even more so since it was a lab famous around the world for their coronaviridae expertise, that started gain-of-function research on them the same fricking year they got their BSL4 certification
      >a BSL4 certification that requires standards even the chinese themselves admitted the lab had problems upholding
      Probably everyone who had any contact with workplace safety in commie countries and their attitude to the resulting accidents would bet on the accidental lab leak theory

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Former CBRNgay here; I had a case where some semi moronic guy made his own toxin, from the similar to Ricin, sold on dark and was used in murder plot which almost was successful had he gotten the toxicity right. Many YouTube wannabe mad scientists just wind up poisoning themselves.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FOX!

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