Best UK weapon in Ukraine

NLAW, because of the early critical impact when Russia first invaded?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure this will be a sensible and productive thread filled with reasonable people with no biases or agendas.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everybody has biases, anon.

      As a brit I approve of this shitpost. BTW has everyone seen that warriortard got doxed? He likes fart porn and wieners.

      >He likes fart porn and wieners.
      Giga-based

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Bradly
    What?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's on the British Aerospace website:

      https://www.baesystems.com/en/product/bradley-fighting-vehicle

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just cause they bought out the manufacturer doesnt mean they created it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Buy a company that's recently oopsied a lot of people, and see how far that argument gets you when the lawsuits come rolling in. When you buy a company, their successes are now your successes, and their frickups are now your frickups.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the entire legacy product line of Boeing ceases to exist because everything decent they make was designed by McDouglas

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        By that logic NLAW and Starstreak are french weapons because they're made by a Thales subsidiary

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't NLAW Swedish?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes but I think it was partly made by the uk too

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      A BAE subsidiary manufactures them in the states. Warriortard is (once again) false-flagging and trying to stir shit up.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think he's false-flagging I think someone's trolling him would be my guess

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Iirc correctly they were produced by United Defense Industries(UDI) which started as a division of Food Machinery Corporation(FMC). The latter being the designers behind the M113 and Bradley.
      In the mid 2000s UDI was the acquired by BAE.
      Of course calling the Bradley british because of that is highly misleading.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Bradly
      >B R A D L Y
      The British were the pioneers of the we wuz mentality when it came to other people's achievements
      Jeremy Clarkson explains it pretty well in a Top Gear or Grand Tour clip that I cant find lmao

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a brit I approve of this shitpost. BTW has everyone seen that warriortard got doxed? He likes fart porn and wieners.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No wonder

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      pics or it didn’t happen

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    From moronic to worst to best:
    >Brad
    Is American, homosexual
    >Shartstreak
    Doesn't make Ziggers mald as hard as Stingers
    >NLAW
    Pretty based, cheaper than Javelin and kills anything short of an MBT real good.
    >Storm Shadow
    Extremely based, makes backline Ziggers deader than ever before and makes survivors mald.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      NLAW kills MBT's just fine. The only stuff with more than 800mm of roof armour is an ICBM silo.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, but they most often were deployed against BTRs, BMPs, and other targets, while MBTs were targeted with Javelin. Also, doesn't NLAW have a less reliable top attack capability than Javelin? I could be misremembering, but I seem to remember NLAW's top attack just being some sort of air burst proximity fuse HEAT thing.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >But they most often were deployed
          against xyz
          >tank front! I only have an Nlaw call up a Javelin
          Dont be moronic, whatever they had at the time was used against whatever was infront of them. Early game saw the most nlaw action due to it being closer contacts once it opened up the javelins came into play.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The only stuff with more than 800mm of roof armour is an ICBM silo.
        ISBM silo lids are typically rebar reinforced concrete, not armor steel and mostly protect against overpressure, not direct impacts.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think he was being facetious

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was a joke

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Doesn't make Ziggers mald as hard as Stingers
      Because they don't even get to see videos of them being cubed, it's an extremely high speed cubifier.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Show me evidence that NLAW actually made a substantive difference. The Ukrainians had no shortage of ways to destroy Russian armour, including a shitload of Soviet RPGs.
    We know now it was Ukrainian artillery that annihilated the Russian column trying to take the capital after Zelensky screwed up by refusing to mobilise until the last minute.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Show me evidence that NLAW actually made a substantive difference.
      Sure thing, hoss. Observe the NLAW taking out a tank here in this video that was much-discussed at the time.

      Turns out that in that dead tank was the general in charge of 3 BTGs attacking Kiev (one of them is visible on the road behind, the other two were coming down other roads a few miles away to the east and west)

      The outcome of this single NLAW is partially visible here:

      where the russian tanks are milling around like they had no fricking idea what to do, because with their general dead they didn't have any fricking idea what to do. Not captured on video are similar things happening to the other two BTG columns a few miles to the east and west.
      and here

      where the Ukrainians are repossessing the abandoned russian tanks. Ukraine destroyed or captured over 80 vehicles in this one column, similar results were achieved against the BTG to the west, though the BTG to the east managed to escape with relatively light losses.

      Russia never again seriously threatened Kiev. Two weeks later the Russians left northern Ukraine in the infamous "feint".

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >general in a tank
        Is this what people actually believe?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You'll have to ask the russians that they captured at the battle, they're the ones who claimed it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Monty and Rommel did it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad that video in particular did not show a NLAW but an RPG-29.
        The NLAW doesn't produce that much white smoke, even in low temperatures. That's one of the main selling points, concealed firing and low detectability.
        That white smoke is characteristic for Soviet era AT-weapons.

        However, you're right that the NLAW made a significant difference in the early days of the defense, especially in Mariupol where an Azov AT team with NLAWS destroyed a whole column of T72s and BMPs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXoyWH5FMgU

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          That tank was killed from a top attack missile. I've never heard that the Vampir has a top attack mode, and a quick google check doesn't turn up anything either. Not to be that guy, but I'm gonna need to see some source on your claim.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Source on Image?
    Looks like somone made it with the Bradley to purposely shit stir.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah no shit you're in a warriortard thread

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thought so, why did he call his twitter Burp00589615 instead of Fart0058..

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Warriorturd did you make this image lol? Cant find it anywhere

  8. 10 months ago
    äää
  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nlaw
    >bongish
    at best it's half bong

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >pick the best out of these totally different systems with totally different jobs that had varying impact during totally different stages of the war

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    A thrown rock is faster than an F35, they can't even exceed mach without falling apart.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Only kills 40% of targets
    >Countermeasures are easily deployed against it
    No, it's actually a pretty dogshit weapon.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >It makes 100% of its targets genetic dead ends
    So does a thermonuke.
    The troony bomb can only be dropped on certain countries, most places are practically shielded from the effects. And the rest would do the "weak man create hard times > hard times create strong men"

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I am East Euro. Here such weapons have very limited effect, if not zero.
    There should be a troony prohibition treaty.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >4% of the polish population is gay
    2-3% is the standard error margin of homosexualry, just above schizophrenia. It's the natural state of evolution, survival of the fittest.
    This is not Tel Aviv with its 25% self-admitted LGBT.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    >4% of the polish population is gay
    2-3% is the standard error margin of homosexualry, just above schizophrenia. It's the natural state of evolution, survival of the fittest.
    This is not Tel Aviv with its 25% self-admitted LGBT.

    Maybe 2% of the population are receptive male homosexuals. But a large % of straight men would penetrate an attractive gay twink.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russian men aren't straight though.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes they are. it's not homosexual of you not enjoying it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You dont understand what 'gay' means, do you.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Storm Shadow
    >British
    how many times do we have to teach you this lesson, bongs?

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Simple as

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the NLAW was very effective at the start of the conflict

    and the Storm Shadow sure is giving the russians a headache

    and while the starstreak is effective, i feel MANPADS have evolved more into a means of deterrance by this point, it almost doesnt matter how effective a particular system is, nobody is flying directly into MANPADS territory anymore, its suicide

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    NLAW did help create one of the most kino videos to come out of the war

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      see

      >Show me evidence that NLAW actually made a substantive difference.
      Sure thing, hoss. Observe the NLAW taking out a tank here in this video that was much-discussed at the time.

      Turns out that in that dead tank was the general in charge of 3 BTGs attacking Kiev (one of them is visible on the road behind, the other two were coming down other roads a few miles away to the east and west)

      The outcome of this single NLAW is partially visible here:

      where the russian tanks are milling around like they had no fricking idea what to do, because with their general dead they didn't have any fricking idea what to do. Not captured on video are similar things happening to the other two BTG columns a few miles to the east and west.
      and here

      where the Ukrainians are repossessing the abandoned russian tanks. Ukraine destroyed or captured over 80 vehicles in this one column, similar results were achieved against the BTG to the west, though the BTG to the east managed to escape with relatively light losses.

      Russia never again seriously threatened Kiev. Two weeks later the Russians left northern Ukraine in the infamous "feint".

      for an explanation of just how incredibly important that suicide mission really was.

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, when was the last time you actually saw Russian tanks deploying into a legitimate defensive formation? I feel like all Russian tanks do these days is just run around like their heads were cut off.

      One guy with an NLAW sharts up and delays the entire attack. There probably are incidents like this which effect world history.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, when was the last time you actually saw Russian tanks deploying into a legitimate defensive formation? I feel like all Russian tanks do these days is just run around like their heads were cut off.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I can't remember the last time I've actually seen platoon sized tank units operating as a unit instead of "Yuri bring up the T-62!"

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. I think a lot of us forget that Russia actually had some semblance of tactics on the individual level when they first invaded rather than the absolute clusterfrick they are now. I mean obviously they did some moronic ass shit like the bumrush to Kyiv, but their soldiers actually seemed like they were experienced and usually responded in the correct way. And it was basically the higher ups who ended up getting nearly all their experienced soldiers killed early on.

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Bradley was so impressive to the British MIC they bought the rights to it
    kek

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Out of that list I’d have to say either the storm shadow or Bradley had the most effect on the war so far. Nothing comes close to HIMARS/GMLRS

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >MBT LAW
    Very good
    >Starstreak
    SACLOS for an anti-air missile is fricking moronic and so is this thing
    >Bradley
    Designed by a US company prior to acquisition and manufactured primarily in the US. Doesn’t count.
    >Storm Shadow
    Also an excellent weapon, but I’ll have to agree with you on the NLAW because of its importance in the early war and preventing the immediate collapse of the Ukrainian forces.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hi Warriortard

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SACLOS for an anti-air missile is fricking moronic and so is this thing

      not really, its got extremely short time of flight and all the operator needs to do is hold the target in his field of view for 2-3 seconds, in return no countermeasures can stop it and its pretty much impossible to evade.

      its got higher skill floor than a stinger but it absolutely murders aircraft if the operator is trained.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your excuses aren’t relevant. Saclos is a moronic way to guide a modern MANPADS. Look to foreign sales numbers if your still confused

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          A lot of foreign sales are vatnik sovtrash you nincompoop.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >OH NO! My little, overfapped, manlet arms cannot hold a lightweight tube still for a whole two seconds! This top of the line, immune to all countermeasures, short ranged AA missile is rendered worthless by how incredibly pathetic I am!
          Can you show us on the doll where the Dede's tortureraped you Ivan?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          RBS 70 is one of the best selling MANPAD/SHORAD systems in the world?

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Question for the footage autists: I expected to see Starstreak taking out BMPs and BTRs but I don't think I've seen any, am I just an idiot or are they not using it against light armored vehicles?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s 3 darts could penetrate an IFV type vehicle from the side but unless it cools off an ATGM pile it’s probably not going to cause a catastrophic kill

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s anti air…

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        it throws explosive filled tungsten darts at supersonic speeds and is SACLOS, it's anti whatever the operator points it at with less than 40mm RHA. In theory, at least, so it's weird we haven't seen footage. Maybe they hold the Starstreak further behind the line for cruise missile duty?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Starstreak was never provided in large numbers

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          40mm armor isn’t very thick

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            it's enough to frick up BMPs except BMP-3 from the front though, note how I'm not asking why it hasn't killed actual tanks, that's obvious

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The NLAW is the only British weapon which accomplished something big in this war
    >bradley
    Glorified deminer
    >starstreak
    Took down like 2 helos maybe? Idk
    >storm shadow
    May have struck some targets, but you’ll have to take the AFU’s word for it. Do you believe in the ghost of kiev btw?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      False flag. You wont get many reactions from bait this poorly crafted

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one thinks that the NLAW accomplished anything big

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    Simple as

    topkek this is what bongs actually believe
    No wonder Britannia is going down

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Going down on your mum mate

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Brits claim the NLAW when 90% of it is a Swedish weapon.

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