Best long term shelters?

Next year I plan to live permanently in the forest. Right now I am looking at getting a kodiak 10ft x 10ft canvas cabin hot tent as seen in pic. Curious if these things would last being setup for 10 years straight and if anyone knows much about them? It's a heavy canvas and it will take me 2 days to hike with it into my spot but I know that once setup it will never be found.

Some anons might suggest building my own shelter but because of the area that isn't really viable.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >generic "I'm gonna run away to the woods! I'm suuper serial!!!1" thread #3567353452342354353465436

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seethe.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >slaves get whipped when they protest or try to escape
      Wow, profound.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        jerking off while fantasizing about escaping isn't escaping, in fact actual slave masters would prefer you do that, but then you can't be slave, slaves produce more than they consume, you are a parasite leaching off everyone around you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be fully inserted into society
      >accept all the program unquestioningly
      >doing your best
      >everything is promising and le future is bright
      >things start going poorly because merit is secondary to having connections/money
      >still believe in the hard-working goy narrative
      >I'll work hrarder!!11!1
      >nothing happens
      >I'll work hwhrardher1!!1!!!
      >nothing happens
      >I'll... work harder...
      >nothing happens

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        "work harder" means investing in yourself to be able to have something more valuable to offer, that you've missed the point this bad means you should probably just invest in a helium tank and a plastic bag.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"work harder" means investing in yourself to be able to have something more valuable to offer
          where did I imply something different? you live in a fantasy world

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            touch sunlight

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >implying most people dont reach their actual maximum capacity for being productive at work, either through years of experience or education

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Good goy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God fucking dammit this describes exactly my life from 15 to 18.
      I wish my parents would've helped me out of that deep sorry hole I fell into.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Best long term shelters?
    A house

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good thing that wasn’t a tent and the occupants were able to shelter in another room as the storm passed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >storm
          Missile strike

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Dilate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      touch grass and have sex

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        back to your home board now

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          go home to your social media platform.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >autistic guy that never goes out won't stop derailing threads and spamming his shit everywhere
            Fuck off retard some of us actually go PrepHole.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >talking about himself in the 3rd person
              yeah you really should put the phone down and go outside frein

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cope. You will always be a LARPer urbanite sitting on a computer never leaving the house.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >still talking about himself in the 3rd person
                you can go outside, just step out the door, you can do it!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                He won't, lifting that 400 pounds requires effort.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t. Projecting

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                go outside

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I had the week off and only got back yesterday from hiking around looking for a spot.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've found where in the general area I'm going to be but it's a lot harder than I thought to get in there the terrain is not really meant for hiking.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And here's the creek I will get water from which is in the 2nd valley.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/rGZS8ly.jpg

                I've found where in the general area I'm going to be but it's a lot harder than I thought to get in there the terrain is not really meant for hiking.

                https://i.imgur.com/OJcx1nh.jpg

                And here's the creek I will get water from which is in the 2nd valley.

                based

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Excellent thread lads!

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the best long term shelter is called a house. Or you know, cabin, cottage, whatever your chosen domicile.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go to a marine supply shop and get some UV canvas treatment. It'll come in cans, like paint, and you brush it on once every year to waterproof and UV protect the fabric.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It will rot eventually depending on humidity. Could take only 1 year if you dont clean and dry it regularly. Maybe it will keep for 3-5 years. Most likely you'll get holes in the canvas from chimney sparks and the tieout seems will rip.
    All things you can repair potentially but a storm will porbably end your adventure anyways.
    I would build a more durable shelter.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I would build a more durable shelter.
      So just carry steel and concrete in and basically build a small shed home? I've thought about it and that seems like the easiest way because the wood isn't of even size it would be a massive fuck around to build a cabin. Exactly how thick does the canvas have to be to survive that long how do military canvas setups last so long?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >how do military canvas setups last so long?
        by being stored in a warehouse.

        Poor people use thin sheet metal and wood.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'd use steel for the structure it's stronger and lighter and clad it with sheet. Only Concreting the main posts. That was the original plan but someone linked me to those kodiak tents a couple weeks ago and I thought canvas would be a much easier way to do it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Definitely start out with a tent but transition to a solid shelter. If you can the foundation of the ground with concrete pillars you are pretty much set for life.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I just called the retailer and they said they don't recommend these kodiak tents be used for longer than 10 days. That's pretty surprising to me.
              I'll get another cheap larger tent and use that as temp base while I build it.

              I got my hopes up high for those canvas tents now I've got to have a friend or two help me carry the cladding in. Not a huge deal but I wanted to do it alone.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That's pretty surprising to me.
                It shouldn't be.
                now apply this realization of naivety to the rest of your jerkoff session.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >kk-kii-ll yousef! *sobing*
                getting butthurt isn't a counter argument son.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The cheapest tiny shitty cabins on acrage in my country cost 280k minimum. That's a 10 year mortgage for me for a place I can't live in because I work in town. I could easily take my 40k deposit and spend 20k getting like 5 other guys to build my cabin illegally in the middle of fucking no where nearby a river even if I get caught they won't be able to get in there to knock it down because the materials were carried in by hand a fucking digger isn't going to make it, and this way I would be able to move my livestock and live off them easily.

                It's a genuine plan. It isn't running away like your gayy fantasy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >"I'm not like the Other Runnaway gays!"
                >-Every Runnaway gay

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >leaving urban areas is running away

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ?? You don't need a permit to build a shed without utilities in most counties. You only need a permit if you're going to put in plumbing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                How do you plan to stay hidden with livestock? Can I ask what country youre in?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                By being in the deep forest off a 4wd track that no one stops on. Australia.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nearby a river
                That's a big no no. If you want to live in the woods and not be found, then you need to understand what lines of drift are and how to avoid them. Go read Eric Rudolph memoir, he hid from the FBI in the mountains of North Carolina for 5 years, all while being number one on the FBI's most wanted list.

                lloks like it wouldnt handle multiple stong storm

                >lloks like it wouldnt handle multiple stong storm
                They do well in storms due to the guy lines. Hell, even a normal Coleman tent will do fine in storms if you use your guy lines. I was getting hammered in a Coleman tent with 40mph guys just a few days ago.

                Either bury it in a hole or dig into the side of a steep hill.

                >side of a steep hill.
                Bingo

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I will watch that. I was thinking at least a 1km away from more of a creek than a river. I will just walk it for water each couple days.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Read this for more info
                https://www.armyofgod.com/EricLinesOfDrift%201_18_15Opened.pdf

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ty

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >spreading blackpills because you're afraid of your slaves opting out of The Grid.
                fuck off, glowmoron fed

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                shhh just get in the oven skitzo.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Get a Canvas GP small, military surplus. Also get the stove.
                It isn't easy but can be done solo.
                https://www.usmilitarytents.com/genaral-purpose-tent-small.aspx

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spend the next year watching how to videos on YouTube and making a practice cabin. You should live in the tent while you build a log cabin. That way you only have to bring a good axe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Have you considered a dugout? With some work you could even conceal the opening. It wouldn't be portable like a tent but if you're staying in the same spot anyway for a long time it could come to replace your tent.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I plan to live permanently in the forest
    >I plan to live permanently in the forest
    >What tent should I get
    Build a cabin, chud

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or atleast buy a camper

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get a pre-fab cabin.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These canvas tents will last for years if you take care of them. Do the following
    >Setup on a south facing slope to increase sunlight on your spot
    >Install a rainfly over the top of your tent (blocks UV, prevents condensation buildup and protects your roof)
    >Dig a drainage trench around your tent so water has a place to go
    >Keep food away from your tent (mice)
    >Make sure your stove pipe has a spark arrestor

    Thats it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Listen to this guy. Also consider that even if you had to replace your tent every year for about $800-$1k, that would still be a cost orders of magnitude less than any other shelter option.

      I think the real mistake is adopting the mindset that shelter should be permanent. No tribal society had this assumption, aside perhaps from those that lived in caves. Indeed there are plenty of advantages to working with new material vs constantly trying to maintain a failing structure. The Japanese do it right and consider houses to be depreciating consumer goods, to be torn down and replaced every 30 years or so.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't workout how I should fix the corrugated steel cladding to the steel structure. Should I build it in my backyard first and pre-drill all the holes so I only have to bolt everything together or is there a better way? If I bolt it I will use silicone to water proof the holes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP here. I'm going with the steel and concrete route. It's too complicated for me to figure out a way to do this without first building it on my backyard so im going with a basic triangle shape A-frame which is easy as fuck to design and build.

      No point messing around with bell shapes and finding out that I fucked it up after carrying it all in like I was thinking about here

      I can build the entire thing with concrete, galvanised square steel tubing, corrugated iron, bolts and a couple hinges for the door. Simple and easy no fucking around with bending.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could build an underground dugout style shelter pretty cheaply if you're doing steel and concrete, just so it isn't so ugly. Sort of like a tornado shelter.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Just briefly how would you do it, bury the entire thing under a couple inches of dirt or have it partially sticking out?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Either bury it in a hole or dig into the side of a steep hill.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >kodiak 10ft x 10ft
    This is what I would do. One of the benefits is being able to pack up and go if some hunter fag stumbles into your site

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I spoke to the manufacturer and they said it would last for at least 1 year continuous use in direct sunlight but couldn't say much about rot and mildew.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The manufacturer is always going to be conservative with their estimates. If you put a rain fly over it, it should last indefinitely.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How would you best assure that no sparks from the internal camp stove fall back on the tent and damage the canvas?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How would you best assure that no sparks from the internal camp stove fall back on the tent and damage the canvas?
            Spark arrestor + Long stove pipe (10' or so)

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lloks like it wouldnt handle multiple stong storm

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are you gonna eat? You want to live permanently in the woods, you will find water but you are on someone else's land and they will probably harass you over it.
    Are there any animals you can hunt all year without going to buttfuck island if you get caught?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What are you gonna eat? You want to live permanently in the woods, you will find water but you are on someone else's land and they will probably harass you over it.
      Not him, but Eric Rudolph survived through a combination of food caches, acorns, hunting, dumpster diving and stealing from people's gardens. OP could run a trap line as well, but his primary food source is going to be caches. The amount of animals OP would have to hunt to survive year round would decimate the local population, forcing him to become nomadic. You can buy several years worth of beans and rice for under $1,000.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It will be on public land. There are kangaroo and goats year round which can be hunted all year in the area and I can gilnet the creek illegally or fish trout. The idea is to be deep enough no one will find me regardless of what I do. There are also snakes which I can eat. I'm going to bury buckets with vacuum sealed bags of rice, nuts and beans likely at least 100kg of each.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That nobody will ever find you is the most irrational thing of the whole project. I always assume if i am there someone was and may be there. As for the rest its a really nice adventure

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It will be on public land. There are kangaroo and goats year round which can be hunted all year in the area and I can gilnet the creek illegally or fish trout. The idea is to be deep enough no one will find me regardless of what I do. There are also snakes which I can eat. I'm going to bury buckets with vacuum sealed bags of rice, nuts and beans likely at least 100kg of each.

      Also I can forage bush foods in the area I'm quite knowledgeable at that but I will have to hunt meat I can't just live on leaves, roots and berries.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A coffin

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just build a trapper's shed like Forest Anon

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dig a spider hole anon

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    these tents look comfy
    too bad noone on this board actually has one, I'd like to hear how they do

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Plan to live permanently PrepHole
    Alone? Anon you're gonna die. Social cooperation is how humans survive. At the very least, go somewhere near a 100m wide LZ for a heli to land when you sprain your ankle when your boots wear out and can't do shit.
    Also
    >Forever
    >Textile material
    No. You'll need to learn some basic carpentry.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks pretty easy anon. All you need is a little cabin and a wood stove

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's genuinely hard to find straight trees where im from unless I do it in a pine plantation

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's genuinely hard to find straight trees where im from unless I do it in a pine plantation
        What about mud and rock? Personally, I'd prefer to live in a mud/rock home than a log cabin

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm considering earth bags.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What about earth bags + a dug out?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              For the area I've scouted its become very obvious that at least a partial dug out will be best the land is quite steep and all the flat areas are all in natural lines of drift which most people would use if they happen to off trail hike in the area.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Probably going to lose my job here pretty soon. Not sure how I will pay rent. I really don't want to sell my crypto. So I think I'm gonna take the tent pill for a year or so until the job market gets better. I live next to millions of acres of public land, so finding a spot to pitch my tent should be easy, also I can move around if need be.

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