BEST FIGHTER JET ON EARTH?

In my opinion, the Chengdu J-20, also known as Mighty Dragon, is the greatest all-weather stealth fighter aircraft on Earth. It absolutely mogs both the F-22 AND the F-35. And it would BTFO even the Su-57 if more than 5 existed.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and a ching chong bing bong to you, anon

      https://i.imgur.com/UdUPc0f.jpg

      Impressive.

      I AM CHINESE
      SON OF A BITCH AMERICAN
      AMERICAN IS PIG
      DO YOU WANT A HAMBURGER?
      DO YOU WANT A PIZZA?
      AMERICAN IS PIG DISGUSTING
      NATO IS A MURDERER
      FUCKING U.S.A

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >NATO IS A MURDERER
        based

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >DO YOU WANT A HAMBURGER?
        >DO YOU WANT A PIZZA?
        do you happen to have some lasagna?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All Chinese need to hang, hate from Vietnam

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          still mad?
          or are you mad that China now owns half your industry?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            nta but you're not only mad, you're legit constantly seething because your're a bugman
            imagine having a cope folder lmao

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            All that numbers and fresh weaponry, and the Chinese still had more casualties and still lost the war, both.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              vietnam was part of china for centuries

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >NATO IS A MURDERER
        based

        wtf I love NATO nao

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        /classic/

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    and a ching chong bing bong to you, anon

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Impressive.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Implessive

      You're doing it wrong.

      Japs have no L sound in their language. So the closest sound to them is an R sound so they substitute that. So it'd sound like Grass instead of Glass if they were speaking english for instance. It doesn't work backwards. Ls become Rs, but not the other way around.

      And it's only Japs. This post is about Chinese. Chinese have an L sound so your joke fails on multiple levels.

      Impressive.

      With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese monocrystal turbines, plasma stealth technology, quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; a humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're doing it wrong.

      Japs have no L sound in their language. So the closest sound to them is an R sound so they substitute that. So it'd sound like Grass instead of Glass if they were speaking english for instance. It doesn't work backwards. Ls become Rs, but not the other way around.

      And it's only Japs. This post is about Chinese. Chinese have an L sound so your joke fails on multiple levels.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your first mistake was expecting racists to put any thought into the things they say

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck off chink

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Implessive

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, like "lo mein," the Chinese shit everyone knows. But they're dumb, what can you do.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >lo mei instead of Lao Mian

          why are cantonese so weird?

          I have the feeling that they made Chinese language ridiculous, just like how lowly Americans made British language look like shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you expect people to know who Hong Kong martial artist and actor Bruce Lee (Lee Jun-fan) is? Beijing actor, producer, and martial artist Jet Li (Li Lianjie)? don't be ridiculous anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up nerd

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The J-20 is limited by its poor engines performance. The air intakes are pretty much the same as the J-10B.

    And the Su-57 is just a bad LO aircraft, not really stealth.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >And the Su-57 is just a bad LO aircraft, not really stealth
      The Su-57 is an appearance package for the Su-35, it's 4.5 gen at best.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's like putting a body kit and fart can on a Civic DX and calling it a 8 second drag car

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. While there’s no true requirements for 5th generation aircraft stealth is the one that most people agree on. The j20 is really just using its shapes for LO but supposedly no true RAM coating. Without RAM coating, you’re just an f18 hornet, as that also has geometry built into make it LO. One other aspect is communication and networking. Judging at how Russia is doing China probably lacks any substantive advanced comms as well
        >Tl;dr
        The J20 is a 4.5th gem aircraft at best, realistically just a 4th gen

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          For obvious reasons chinks have far better electronics than russia and AESA radars on service. China also has far better machinery than russia. And they have a long term commitment backed by billions-dollar budget to develop the metallurgy and manufacturing of modern blade turbines. It's easy to see in the smokeless engines (compared with russia) that China makes and in the lifespan of their engines. They're trying to be on par with the west instead of russia that sells engines that lasts barely 500-1500 hours and still smokes.

          The J20 is definitely a stealth aircraft far more closer to the F-35 in regard to RCS and sensors than to the obsolete Su-57. It has problems tho, it's still using the underpowered WS-10 engines.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also, even if China is trying to develop reliable engines they still have certain dependence for russian engines for some of they aircrafts. But all the futures developments and the basis of new engines are their own development that have influency of (copy) western engines not russian (they tried coping soviet engines but in the end the core of the CFM56 is the basis for their engines).

            About the RCS of the J-20
            >http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2011-03.html

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            At the risk of getting called a vatmoron, Russia was on its way to developing AESA at pace with China but the electronics embargoes over the past half decade plus is what set them back. Basically it’s not really that China is superior just that they are able to source more components. Where I’m going with this is that China is more on par than you realize capabilities wise, so, production rates and equipment quantity not withstanding, we can get a good gauge of how well Chinese weaponry would work based on how (poorly)whatever low quantity of Russian equipment performed in Ukraine

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Russia was on its way to developing AESA
              Russia has been developing AESA radars new rocktes (totally independent of ukraine industry), thermal senors, semiconductors, supercruiser engines, drones, T-95/T-14 armata, etc since the 80s. But all of them are in the endless development hell.

              >China is superior just that they are able to source more components.
              Yeah, having budget, HR and real parts is important, see the 5G conflict over china. Meanwhile russia dont have any local capabilities. The brain drain, corruption and dutch disease completely killed russia.

              Also, most of the equipment of china is from the 90s and newer, russia still uses mainly upgraded 1980s tech. Hell, even iran has more commitment to newer military doctrines.

              The problem of china is that probably (as sayd per military analysts) they're still mediocre in real war. The best gauge for chinese weaponry will be africa.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >China also has far better machinery than russia

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              They aren't the worlds factory for nothing. Russia even have to import CNCs from china like they tried to do witch toshiba in the cold war.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    But please continue

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      no actually you detect nothing because there are no artefacts there

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chinatard?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love these threads because there are unironically Anglos with skins so thin they can't take it even as a joke.

    With that said, it's a nice looking plane.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aye, though unfortunately it's doubtless that the supply chain for its components is ruthlessly fraught with corruption and theft.

      Every story I've heard from someone involved directly in procurement with mainland Chinese companies is that you basically have to be right next to them, constantly going over everything with the liaison over and over again while everything is being done or they WILL casually stiff you and give you, say, a roll of one quarter inch thick steel plate instead of one eighth inch aluminum and other things of that nature. While there is no doubt that there are engineers in China capable of constructing a stealth aircraft, especially with all the data they've stolen from foreign research organizations and corporations over the years, it is unlikely that their internal network can get over its own flaws to supply the parts that would allow it to function as claimed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        CCP likely watches over their shoulders, probably with a gun to their head

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is the real issue with authoritarian/corrupt societies. There's a saying that everything the Tsar watches works perfectly, but his gaze cannot cover everything. They can choose to focus and nail down a certain number of issues/focus points, but not everything can be micromanaged. This trick is that any few of their military assets could function well and as advertised, like the J20, but others may not (like simple military logistics). This has become even more clear in the Ukrainian War.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The difference is that unlike Russia, that has one leader who can only gaze in one direction, Xi has a party who he’s purged of most of his opponents who can obsessively look in many directions.
            Chicom autism is a powerful force

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Gripen is the best 5th gen fighter by far, it doesnt require a large logistic network to operate, The only reason no one is buying is it is because no one thinks Sweden know how to design aircraft but here in Sweden, we have the best aviation engineers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Rafale, is fully the equal of the F-35, Su-57 and J-20 as a fifth generation fighter. Like the KF-21, it is a 4.5 gen with development potential to be further upgraded to fifth gen. That is why many countries, such as India, Indonesia, Qatar and the UAE which have requested F-35s or were looking at other fifth gen options like the Su-75 and KF-21, are now Rafale users.

      The Eurofag Typhoon meanwhile remains a 4-4.5 generation aircraft with no further development potential, and the countries who are using it primarily (UK, Italy, Spain etc) are all F-35 users and have no incentive to develop it further

      Rafale is a fifth generation aircraft

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >rafale
        >fifth gen
        Choose one

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Impressionnant.

        Aves cette réalisation la plus récente, le destin a marqué d'un seul coup le déclin de l'Occident et a marqué le début d'une nouvelle ère de prospérité merveilleuse et de domination mondiale pacifique pour le dragon chinois, qui promet de contraster fermement avec l'ascension historiquement sanglante des puissances occidentales et l'assujettissement cruel qu'il a apporté aux nations les plus humbles du monde. Avec la bénédiction des turbines monocristallines chinoises, la technologie furtive du plasma, l'électricité quantique à courant continu, les porte-avions quantiques et les railguns quantiques améliorés seront les instruments avec lesquels la Chine affirmera sa noble intendance de la politique mondiale du 21ème siècle et offrira au monde non occidental une option différente; une alternative humaniste aux déprédations des dirigeants occidentaux et la possibilité d'un multilatéralisme plus équitable et plus digne.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >le dragon chinois
          Le coq françoise

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Oh bordel j'en crêve de rire.

          Le Rafale est un bon avion, il est vraiment multirole et il peut vectoriser des armes nucléairs. Malheureusement il a une énorme RCS, et il ne peut pas rivaliser avec la maneuvrabilité du su-57. C'est un peu le pire compromis entre les deux, alors même si il est bien mieux que l'eurofighter, il est plus cher, et on a pas prévus d'avoir des F35. Résultat on a un appauvrissement de la capacité aérienne, parceque le M2k il est vraiment dépassé. Si on avais commandé des F35 sa serais pas un problème, mais le SCAF vas mettre des années a être réalisé, et pendant ce temps la on perds du terrain. En plus le neuron ou le drone européen conçu avec les teutons vas aussi prendre des siècles à être réalisé, et bien sur il y auras des différent concernant l'intégration à la marine de ces nouveaux drones. Bref l'armée française à besoin de se moderniser de toute urgence, et pour ça elle doit sortir de sa diète. Malheureusement sa ne semble pas vraiment à l'ordre du jour.
          The rafale isn't really 5th gen, and even if it were a 5th gen it would be the worst one, since it isn't supermaneuverable or very stealthy. There is a need for a new design, and for more drones and rafales. Unfortunately you need loads of money to do that, and the french army isnt gonna get it any time soon. French pilots are good, but thats about it. We have our own satelites, but it won't replace drones, and unfortunately we don't have cheap drones. The french air force isn't in good shape, and neither are the other branches. The shills are trying to distract you away from the quality of US and bong systems, in order to demoralise you. They will shill anything to erode the reputation of anything that isn't Nato. Notice however that they won't shill against Roachland.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The su-57 isn't real anon. You don't have to worry about the Rafale not being able to outmaneuver it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        spain has no f35

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tres magnifique.

        Wis zis most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the le anglo and spelled a new era of wondrous je ne sais quoi and peaceful global dominance for zee big Fransh cock hon hon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to zee historically bloody ascent of English cochons and the cruel subjugation it brought to le petite nations of the world. With the blessings of French monocrystal baguettes, plasma cigarette technology, quantum direct-current existentialism, quantum aircraft ejection seats and quantum enhanced street mimes will be the instruments with which France affirms its noble stewardship of 21st French republique world politics and offers the non-anglo world a different option; a humanist alternative to the depredations of anglo leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateral white flag.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This but unironically. French decision to develop active stealth instead of passive stealth like F35 benefit Rafale in the long run. They don't need sacrifice anything to make airframes more stealthier and Rafale doesn't need expensive maintenance to preserve stealth coating. And ECM and EW can easily be upgraded without changing anything much.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >active stealth
          They made a radar signal vacuum or something?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ECM, EW, Jamming capability. F-35 also have this ability and probably better. But Rafale can improved it further with minimal cost.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Learn English.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Never.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        egypt paid 4.5 billion usd for 30 jets
        this thing is overpriced, it will never compete with f35, which is cheaper

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would take 1 F16 over 100 chengdus, the parity ratio is:

    1 f16 = 101 chengdus
    1 f15 = 200 chengdus
    1 f35 = theoretically approaches infinite

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn’t this basically a Chinese knockoff? Espionage works to a point but unless you actually have great engineers who will eventually be able to outperform the original designers aren’t you basically fucked? China thinks they’re cutting corners off of learning but this didn’t work for Soviet or russian designs they never were able to outperform Uncle Sam

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    my dude, not even 50centers say this kind of shit

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    China numba wan
    America numba fat

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's the F-5.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The bob semple is quite possibly the first and only 6th generation fighter we will ever see in the next 20 years MINIMUM. It’s ability to fly at speeds that make the XB-70 and SR-71 blush while outclassing an entire carrier group in firepower with its 6 railgun launched ramjet shell guns AND hypersonic missile tubes. And that’s without mentioning it’s ability to seamlessly connect to dozens of satellites ready to fire tungsten rods at any target 24/7. How can anyone hope to beat the Kiwis?

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    name one technology in any time period of human history that the chinese took from someone else and objectively improved.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sweatshop manufacturing

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait to see it get shot down by some boomer in an F-15

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >canards
    >on your 5th generation stealth fighter
    Lol Chinese gays

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dogfight is such a WW2 meme. Chinks will learn that and then it'll be too late.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hate mutts

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It actually is the best.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >made in china
    >0 kills
    BWAHAHAHAH

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know everyone will crucify me for saying this but I think the J20 looks pretty cool and I think it might hold a candle to a 35 (though it's fucked against a Raptor). I'm honestly hoping for a war between us just to see if even half of what China claims is true, it'd be exciting to finally have a military foe that's a real threat again

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to see what NGAD looks like

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      there were early leaks that got quickly scrubbed from the internet
      looks like a super-sized YF-23, there's a second cockpit for a WSO that resembles the backseater of the SR71.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it even an Air-superiority platform? My understanding was that it was air-to-air snipper that would headhunt AWACS, tankers, and B52s. It doesn't even have stealthy jet nozzels and looks like it would loose in a dogfight with an f35 to say nothing of a real fighter aircraft.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yea, it's designed to go against f22.
      J20 being an interceptor is just boomer cope

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yea, it's designed to go against f22.
        maybe in a fever dream, in reality though it couldn't even take out an F-16V, let alone an F-22.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cope winglets
    fat chance

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    chinese weaponry are so devoid of soul that they somehow develop soul and personality thanks to the soullessness, it's magical really.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How's a modded Su-27 the most advanced fighter on Earth?

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ay, aint this the 'steath fighter' the poos laugh at every time it shows up on their radars as S-400 food?

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia blown out so hard that Arma can only simp for chinkshit now

    >captcha:VDV NN2

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *