Best 22LR EDC?

P-17 seems great on paper but it feels like a toy, seems like there has to be something better

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >.22lr
    >edc

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to CC a .22 get a revolver. It will cycle right through a bad round. Its still a tard idea.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      an eight shot .22wmr revolver loaded with spicy varmint rounds will put a hurting on someone fricking around

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The one I had held 9. Id just put high quality solids.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you use a toy to EDC?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I understand the benefits of 22lr but for EDC it makes no sense to go smaller than 9mm. Not to mention 22lr is inherently less reliable due to being rimfire.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, Id say .380 is bare minimum. .22lr is only useful if you are planning on carrying suppressed and straight up assassinating someone in the dome from behind.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Israeli style they understand 22LR

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The future is now, old man.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            But it's the same thing with more plastic

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        .45 ACP AS THE MINIMUM YOUNGSTER, AND ONLY BECAUSE THEY DON"T MAKE A 46

        sent from an android phone

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        *.38 special is the bare minimum, is what I'm sure you meant to type out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, Id say .380 is bare minimum. .22lr is only useful if you are planning on carrying suppressed and straight up assassinating someone in the dome from behind.

      Die in a fire boomers, .32 ACP is absolute bare minimum.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Get a .25acp if you want an auto that actually works. Probably a beretta.
      If you want .22, get a revolver.
      My pocket guns are ancient, got a 7 shot h&r .22 from 1890's and a 1908 vest pocket colt. Neither are really safe by modern standards.
      >revolver can rest hammer between cartridges, but easily slips over and ends op on a live
      >1908 vest pocket is AFAIK the earliest striker fired gun, you really need to trust that 100+ year old nubbin on the firing ping not to shear off

      >no sense to go smaller than 9mm
      It does, 9mm guns are much bigger.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IMO the ounce pistol, very small / thin, lightweight, 10+1 folding design that fits in your pocket.
    If you're gonna carry a .22 might as well max out the benefits of being able to carry a small gun. Long recoil action so its not snappy, and runs very clean because most all the powder burns out or gets sent out the barrel before the action opens up to load the next round.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how do you clear a malfunction out of that thing?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Given someone carrying .22lr isn't likely to be making a hobby of practice at a range, they don't. Which is why you carry a snub nose revolver, as said previously

        If you want to CC a .22 get a revolver. It will cycle right through a bad round. Its still a tard idea.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You would have to close / fold the grip and re-open to cycle the action. It's unconventional but could get quick at it if you needed to. Far as I can tell, jams would be mostly a bad ammo issue with this. It's got a very stout hammer, so potential light strikes are probably not down to the gun itself. And it can't really mis-feed rounds into the action unless something were to break

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Looks cool, if it reviews well I might get it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm hopin it gets good reviews/media attention, i feel like it deserves honestly, he just started public sales recently and I picked one up, I think it's fantastic. One of the most well engineered things I've ever seen lol. I imagine the price will keep a lot of people from going for it, but it's honestly built like a fine watch but in gun form.

    • 1 month ago
      Burt

      A Ruger LCP 22 is a more more pragmatic and realistic option. Same capacity, roughly the same size (LCP smaller when in firing position), and 1/4th the cost. Not even mentioning how difficult it is to load, reload, and clear.

      Recoil is insanely low on the Ounce though.

      You would have to close / fold the grip and re-open to cycle the action. It's unconventional but could get quick at it if you needed to. Far as I can tell, jams would be mostly a bad ammo issue with this. It's got a very stout hammer, so potential light strikes are probably not down to the gun itself. And it can't really mis-feed rounds into the action unless something were to break

      >And it can't really mis-feed rounds into the action unless something were to break
      It definitely can, rounds can get sangwiched between the transporter and the bolt/barrel which is very difficult to clear because those pieces being out of place means you can't fold the grip, and you have to partially fold the grip in order to take the side panel off. If this kind of jam happened under stress, the gun is totally dead. And it will happen when unchambering an unfired or damaged cartridge if you don't remember to flick the grip open with alacrity, it's 100% reproduceable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I like my LCP in 380, so they make an LCP22 without a safety?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >so
          *do they

        • 1 month ago
          Burt

          idk, doesn't look like it. But you could cut it off or ignore it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >LCP in 380
          I fell in love with it until I actually took it to the range. I loved everything about it except how it shoots. Tried both versions. Very sad. It was so bad I went back and bought a Sig 365 the same day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >rounds can get sangwiched between the transporter and the bolt/barrel
        Interesting, I haven't encountered that yet, but you're right disassembly would be rather impossible under stress. I'll have to play with it some and try and induce this failure mode.

        • 1 month ago
          Burt

          Wow you have one? Are you the owner? If so I can go into more detail, but the short version is if you have a cartridge with the bullet still in it, either unfired or a malfunction, and you slowly re-open the pistol after folding it, the extra length makes getting through the ejection chute more difficult and the round will get pinned like pic related.

          I'll need to get my dummies and do it again, but I think what's happening is when the transporter goes to snap back upwards after the barrel/bolt cycle, it gets caught on the bolt. The bolt can't be moved back to unpin the round because it's impelled by the barrel, and because the barrel is pressing against the cartridge case it can't go back far enough to move the bolt or dislodge the transporter. So when you try to fold the gun in this condition, you're just mashing the barrel into the cartridge case, deforming it further.

          This doesn't happen when the bullet is fired and the ejected case is therefore shorter.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I see, interesting I'll try that out. Yee I've got one, I had signed up for the waitlist a few months back and took delivery of one recently. Saw it on last year's shot show coverage and was fascinated by the whole design.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >wtf is that
      >check it out
      >long recoil folding .22lr
      >loads from a horizontal rack with a fricking swinging shuttle
      Frick me I want ten of those now. I want that system on a full size rifle, that's so stupid it's cool!

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Beretta Model 71 Jaguar. No contest.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Poorgay here, would a handgun or rifle in 22lr have a better transfer to larger calibers?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      get bigger caliber first then a 22

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Demonstrated Concepts has seriously vetted the Ruger LCR22 and Taurus TX22C, recommending both with Federal Punch. A lot of people got turned on to the LCR22 because of him and have also found it to be a great option. He also said some years ago that the LCP22 was worthwhile on a budget, but I know those have questionable reliability or are at least very ammo sensitive.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The LCR22 is huge and heavy for that caliber. Honestly, I would rather carry a NAA Black Widow in 22 Mag with a NAA Pug as a New York reload for every speed loader that I was gonna carry.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The LCR isn't a pocket gun but it's still very easy to conceal

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, I suppose if you are disabled and need a revolver in 22, then you could do worse than that gun.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you're disabled you'll probably have a hard time with the 16 pound trigger pull.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Taurus 942 UL in 22wmr. Very light, 8 shots, more ass than 22lr, and more reliable than an autoloader, which is relevant for rimfire. Also inexpensive

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    None of them.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >.22
    No. Just get .32 it's .22 but better. And there are a lot of good .380 options if a small pistol is what you want

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Abandon the idea and look at compact double stack 9s.

    I'm not one of these pissing contest homosexuals that think 22 will bounce off a Black folk skull and "just piss him off" but the problem with 22 as an EDC is that you basically don't get anything extra out of it that a 9 doesn't do better in every category. It gives up way too much for basically nothing. Same with 380.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Frick your double negative homosexualry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There are some pretty clear cut benefits, anon. Not even really up for debate. Size, weight, recoil, noise and cost are significant factors here. The only thing you really get out of 9mm that you don't get out of 22 LR is expansion AND penetration. Plenty of militaries and law enforcement agencies have used 22 LR as their primary sidearm long enough to convince me it's a legitimate option. 22 LR is easy to shoot and cheap to train. Most anyone can draw and dump rapid fire on target easily and without much training or strength. Furthermore, the risks associated with missed shots or over penetration are seriously reduced. For all the advancements to ammunition, 22 LR has received them just as well. I'm obviously not making the argument that 22 LR is the superior choice for carry, but it is not without benefits over other cartridges like 9mm.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, I don't know how many times people have to keep relearning this lesson: RIMFIRE IS UNRELIABLE. 22 great for plinking and fun at the range, but an ECD needs to be something that will work a thousand times out of a thousand. Compact guns are already kind of sketchy to begin with but you throw a rimfire in and, yea frick that shit.

        You're not carrying it for errant squirrel attacks or impromptu target practice, you know what I mean?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You are making some assumptions here. Why would military or law enforcement choose to issue 22 LR if it was inherently unreliable?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Why would military choose to issue 22 LR
            Besides Israel that used .22 LR to kneecap unarmed Palestinian protesters no other military uses .22 LR (and they stopped when they got caught, claimed the round was only for varmint control).

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The British in Ireland used a .22 pistol as well

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only downside to the P-17 is it's a full size handgun. But the gun functions perfectly. Even with sub sonics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hopefully they release a compact version. I'd trade 5-6 rounds for a shorter grip. I was also tempted to pick up the red dot ready slide but I don't like that I can't use my own dot with it.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >white is right, gettin a bite (at taco bell)
    >neegerino walks in
    >"AYO GIMMI DUH MUNY NIGAUH"
    >now's my chance!.gif
    >whip out my trusty .22lr edc
    >"NOT TODAY MR.BLACKY!"
    >*pull plastic trigger*
    >*click*
    >rimfire whyyyyyyy.jpg
    >mfw i take 15 rounds from a switched glock
    pic related

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      why do morons on /k/ think auto keys are a racial ability only blacks have?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        its not that blacks only have that capability, but rarher they're stupid enough to walk around with them and magdump in their own neighborhood

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    90% of the replies discount that .22 can be reliable if you get actually good ammo for it and not moronic 4000 bulk packs of dogshit ammo. Just get a decent gun and practice with it and actually hit your shots

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not the Bersa thats for sure, shit stovepipes the first two rounds every single time with a mystery failure to feed you,'ll never predict other than its gonna happen some time in those 9 rounds.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    iykyk

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is this the best bang for you buck edc?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically yes. Mine really exceeded expectations.

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