Besides absolutely fricking the world on energy costs, what can we expect when these two finally go to war with each other? Who would win?
Besides absolutely fricking the world on energy costs, what can we expect when these two finally go to war with each other? Who would win?
God I hate both of these homosexuals so much. I hope it goes one for eternity.
Saudi will win for sure. They got Pakistani nukes on hold in Karachi port, one snap of the finger and they will arrive in Saudi
Say more right now
It was revealed like 5-6 years ago. Saudis financed the Pak nuclear program in exchange for some missile nukes kept hidden
Cool story, bro. Saudis tried to buy nukes of Pakistant and got told to get fricked several times already.
>Implying Iran doesn't have nukes too
I can't wait to see the day when all Saudis will be exterminated, my hatred for Arabs is immeasurable
what makes u think iran gonna war with saudi when they cant even do shit after getting their best gen turned into minced meat by trump?
>what makes u think iran gonna war with saudi
The fact they are kicking their asses in a proxy war right on their border.
iran can have whole mad max tier shithole called yemen and that would change nothing.
Really? IIRC SA/Qatar mercenaries had won the yemeni civil war then immediately fell to infighting about who got control of the puppet government, which did give Irans' side time to regroup, but that was all.
What's the latest?
>qatar
u mean uae. qatar has nothing to do with yemen.
Got me, thank you.
>won the yemeni civil war then immediately fell to infighting about who got control of the puppet government, which did give Irans' side time to regroup, but that was all.
Infighting? They were always rival sides. KSA and UAE supports entirely different factions because the whole point of their war is to keep Yemen perpetually destabilized, not have a stable unitary government. KSA even double-crossed their ally Ali Abdullah Saleh who then allied with Ansarullah and then allied back with the Saudis and then he got killed by Ansarullah.
The faction UAE supports are separatists, while the faction KSA supports wants to rule all of Yemen.
>u mean uae. qatar has nothing to do with yemen.
Qatar was involved in the Yemen War pre-2017 but then quit once KSA, UAE and Bahrain launched their blockade against it, which ultimately failed. The blockade itself was launched after their planned invasion and regime change of Qatar that year failed, which itself was because Turkey got wind of it and deployed troops to Qatar.
>iran can have whole mad max tier shithole called yemen and that would change nothing.
Change nothing about what?
>Saudi will win for sure. They got Pakistani nukes on hold in Karachi port, one snap of the finger and they will arrive in Saudi
Pakistan won't fight a war against Iran on behalf of the Saudis for the simple fact that Iran and Pakistan share a direct land border, and there's tens of millions of people inside Pakistan who would oppose it.
Pakistan's parliament in 2015 even rejected Saudi-UAE calls for Pakistan to get directly involved in the Yemen War. That in turn caused the downturn of relations between KSA and Pakistan thereafter, partly also because of Pakistan's increasing relations with Turkey.
>Pakistan won't fight a war against Iran
I meant the nukes will come from Pakistan, not the Pakistani Army
The Houthis were ass blasting the Saudis long before Iran got involved. Saudis are just that shitty at war.
Both are state sponsors of terror, both are backstabbing aggressors, both are theocracies run by the most radical sects of Sunni and Shia Islam and both try to flex nuts on their weaker neighbors while claiming to be oppressed by the evil West. I have nothing against the Arab or Iranian commoners but I hope to God both governments are overthrown and their leaders suffer the same fate as Gaddafi.
honestly it would probably devolve into missile lobbing and other somesuch Black persony since I doubt any side is competent enough to mount a successful amphibious attack
For what it's worth the Iranians seem relatively competent when compared to the Saudis. My evidence is the Iranian backed forces in the post-US withdrawal Iraq war and their various militias and insurgencies like Yemen. Not saying they're Norman Schwarzkopf, but Saudi Arabia (sans constant US supplies and manpower) is Sergei Shoigu.
Saudis are fatcat lazy nepotists with Gucci western equipment. Iranians are politically motivated, well trained, and have the assistance of the most well armed paramilitary in the world (Hezbollah.) My money would be on an Iranian victory
>F-14s vs F-15s
Kino, that's for sure.
They've been at war in Yemen and Syria for well over a decade.
> well trained,
Never. Iran actually entering into that war would trigger anyone who's using oil in the world and that way you get Desert Storm 3: The Petrolium Boogaloo
You can't invade Iran same way As Iraq. Twice as much population, well established paramilitary structures and absolute hell of a terrain. It would be absolutely awful neverending insurgency bloodbath.
So don't stay then lol "bomb them back to the stone age" just do that and leave. As long as the oil fields are safe who cares what they in their own shithole.
USA could put an export ban on its own oil and let the ME sink. If Iran flattened Saudi it would hurt China the most, which is what really matters.
The most important thing is just to break the frick out of Iran's ability to field weapons. Their insurgent goatfrickers can hide away at their farms all they like, but they aren't touching the Strait of Hormuz or any kind of big oil supplier without dying enmasse.
Except that Iran has all the annoying paramilitaries that Iraq did x100 and is a mountainous as frick. Also they dont have the same problems as arab countries do when it comes to warfare and their equipment isn't awful. We would win but at what cost? and how would we even occupy that? to save the saudis too? frick that
Let’s just do Iraq but leave the moment we decapitate the government. And I mean the exact moment.
Let them rebuild themselves and remind them that we can and will do it again.
Or frick it, put the Zoroastrians in charge. At least make it an amusing clusterfrick
>put the Zoroastrians in charge.
Keep going anon
>Hehehe will just leave take that
You’re right anon. While we’re decapitating Iran we need to nuke the house of saud and execute every single Saudi Imam, cleric, scholar and the entire royal family. If they’re good we won’t destroy Mecca, just give it to Israel to administer
Saudis have more money and more friends on the international scene but Iran has more combat experience and also they are not ethnic Arabs so they could be capable in combat.
when did you realize that these arab skyscrapers are going to be bombed in our lifetimes? you might live to see a video of the burj khalifa tipping over - a little more realistic than the three gorges dam bursting, in my opinion.
>Who would win?
everybody else
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>Who would win?
Humanity.
>Russia mobilises the entire country so the West finally throw everything they have into Ukraine
>WW3 starts and Russia gets its arse handed to it in a matter of hours
>Everyone loves it so much that they crave more war; more victory against despot shitheads
>Huge protests; millions out in the streets calling for another war because the last one was so kino
>Finally the West gives in and invades both of these countries simultaneous because why the frick not?
I can dream can't I?
The Saudis because they are on the right side of history. They are aligned with the good guys, so they win.
They are both too moronic to actually do battle. They’ll collapse before reaching each other. War will never actually happen
They'll never go to war. They will frick with each other till the end of time with petty shit but they will literally never actually go to war.
same shit like with iraq-iran war. total stalemate for years because military positions are a political thing and they're given based on loyalty not on merit.
Saudi Arabia would never go to war with Iran on its own, or even with just its neighboring allies like UAE and Bahrain. Instead, they and Israel would get the US to become the battering ram for them.
Iran will respond by firing missiles at them and the Gulf cities and ports will get devastated. Iran can always rebuild and maintain its position as a historic civilization but the Gulf Arab regimes would be done for.
>Iran can always rebuild and maintain its position as a historic civilization
kek, two more millenia, Arash
>kek, two more millenia, Arash
Not sure wtf this is supposed to mean but Iran is already regional power there and that's even with crippling sanctions.
Iran's population is large enough that it can always rebuild regardless of what regime is in power. It's a civilization with its own water supply and agriculture. The Gulf Arab states have none of those things. Once they're devastated, everything they've built since the late 20th century is gone for good. Would take centuries to attempt to build something like that again.
I hope Iran lose so that they can they can get their heads out of their asses
t. iranian
Saudi Arabia is just a bunch of desert tribes, Iraq already won against Iran.
they'll never go to war because the saudis are pussies with no will to fight.
israel, on the other hand, will absolutely wreck iran in the coming 2-3 years:
>one of the best airforces in the world
>one of the best air defences in the world (inb4 lasers)
>one of the best intelligence services in the world
>navy that is small but still about a century ahead of iran
>nooks just in case
yeah, i'm thinking iran is gonna get it's shit shoved in HARD.
they basically can't do shit to israel other than lobbing their suicide flying lawnmowers and and propelled traffic signs at civilian buildings. all of that manpower they have will never get anywhere close to the border.
I envision the following scenario being more likely than anyone realizes
>Iran spergs out and nukes Saudi or Israeli
>Saudi Arabia nukes them with Pakistani warheads, Israeli nukes them with their own warheads
>global oil prices go up by at least 100%
>amount of general sand homietry goes up by 9001% but none of it is aimed at the US
>Chinese rip out their hair because tens of billions of dollars of investments in the region just went up in smoke
>everyone wonders why the Iranians couldn't have just overthrown the government in 2022 and fixed all their shit then
Lol.
Maybe Israel will win in a movie studio.
>israel, on the other hand, will absolutely wreck iran in the coming 2-3 years:
I think you're delusional. Israel got humbled by Hezbollah and hasn't tried neutralize them let alone Iran.
>they basically can't do shit to israel other than lobbing their suicide flying lawnmowers and and propelled traffic signs at civilian buildings. all of that manpower they have will never get anywhere close to the border.
You're completely forgetting all the manpower Iran has by proxy right on Israel's doorstep.
Unlike Ukraine which has several cities spread out and several powerplants, Israel has few and they're all concentrated in a smaller patch of land.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_power_stations_in_Israel
I think I've read they have like four powerplants that could pretty much shut down most of Israel if they went out.
>The riots have shown that a large amount of the young population are pro western homosexualry and feminism, so why not just use them as a wedge?
Those protestors are a minority and even most of them hate Saudi Arabia and majority probably hate Israel too.
>same shit like with iraq-iran war. total stalemate for years because military positions are a political thing and they're given based on loyalty not on merit.
This is what you got from Saudi Arabia's humiliation in Yemen? That they'll have a stalemate with Iran? The whole world knows now that their air defense can't stop Iranian-developed kamikaze drones. Now imagine a rain of drones and missiles targeting Saudi Arabia.
Hypothetically, can’t the US just use Irans pro western elements? This isn’t like early 2000s Iraq where most people had never even seen an American before. The riots have shown that a large amount of the young population are pro western homosexualry and feminism, so why not just use them as a wedge? Decapitate the heads of Iran solemani style and give the pro democracy guys a bunch of guns and ammo.
When we killed Suleimani all of the anti-regime protests turned into anti-American protests. They don't want to be American puppets any more than they want the ayatollahs in charge.
With this being said, if things ever escalated to civil war, we could and should just bomb the shit out of the loyalists forces so the revolutionaries take power.
https://www.understandingwar.org/
I recommend thier iran daily brief.
Pretty much every riot and protest is over food power pay or fuel.
Nothing prowest or over some dead girl that was just the spark it pretty much all over economic and quality of life issues.
>Who would win?
The one with USA backing it
The destiny of Persia is to become what it was in ancient times, a fiefdom of the Aryans. Once India finally dismantles the abomination that is "Pakistan," it will end the question by turning Afghanistan and Iran into vassals and modernizing them. Neither can resist the power of India, who will be the largest economy by the end of this century based on even US and Chinese projections.
The Iranians are the people who have most notably referred to themselves as “aryans” historically. All Indo-aryans are descended from indo-Iranians
Pakistan and Republic of India as we currently know it will both collapse within the next century or so.
Iranians (Iranic) and Indo-Aryans (Indic) collectively descend from a common Indo-Iranian population. One doesn't descend from the other per se.
The Indo-Aryans were the earlier one to migrate southeast into South Asia followed by the Iranians expanding south and southwest.
> Iranians (Iranic) and Indo-Aryans (Indic) collectively descend from a common Indo-Iranian population. One doesn't descend from the other per se.
The Indo-Aryans were the earlier one to migrate southeast into South Asia followed by the Iranians expanding south and southwest
That’s what I said. But I also mentioned the more important point that the Iranians have always referred to themselves as aryans, even more notably than Indians.
There wouldn't be any conflict. Saudis know they couldn't invade Iran. Iranians know they'd get BTFO by Americans if they ever tried to invade Saudi. It's proxy wars forever.
Both have access to Nukes
= problem solved
in the vatnigs mind they will be part of the brics++supreme grpup and wor together as brotherly nations as the new axis