Belarus air base under attack!

Slava Z is reporting that explosions are being seen at an air base in Belarus which had apparently been lent to Russia. Stay tuned for further developments!

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

LifeStraw Water Filter for Hiking and Preparedness

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah 28 VDVs
    pulling up in big black Tigr trucks
    helicopters crashing
    Belarus is under siege
    under lockdown
    VDV are gonna frick some conscript butts

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      RAM RANCH

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >28 RATNIK'D VDVS IN THE AIRPORT AT HOSTOMEL RANCH
      >BIG HARD REVVING BMDs WANTING TO BE ABANDOONED
      >28 VDVS WANTING TO BE FRICKED
      >VDVS IN THE AIRPORT AT HOSTOMEL RANCH

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Source?

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Stuff like this got reported a few times already earlier in the war and it turned out to just be dickhead pilots going sonic boom over residential areas in the middle of the night

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Dickhead pilots
      >Literally a warzone where people are shooting missiles at you

      Avoiding dying is worth breaking a few Belarusian windows

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Multiple videos, eyewitness reports and satellite imagery of explosions at Novofedorivka airbase
    >Russia; Noting happened, it was an accident, no one was killed, we didn’t loose two thirds of the aircraft at the base, but Ukraine crossed a red line even though nothing happened.

    Some guy on telegram says an airbase in Belarus used by Russia has been attacked, no videos, no images, no eyewitness reports, not even the name of the airbase.
    >Russia; Belarus how could Ukraine do this, that airbase was not military, it was center for treatment of orphans with cancer. You need to right this wrong, declare war on Ukraine and head for Kyiv, go go go.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >inb4 they use the barely edited footage from Novofedorivka to try and get Belarus to invade

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do Ruskies not know that cigarettes are bad for your health?

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    there will be consequences

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >there will be consequences
      Doubt

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        not him.
        you're next.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't claim it was. Just like reminding people of all the dead Russians.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it's war. soldiers die. it's normal.
            many more ukrainians die. some at the hands of the castrator.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Hope you're just as accepting when Putin runs out of convicts to send to their deaths and starts conscripting worthless shitposters like you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I would totally castrate you if Vladimir Hitler told me to.

                ukrainian soldiers are heroes. russian soldiers are worthless filth not deserving to be called humans. that's the difference. learn it. know it.

                Ukraine has no army left. it's mercenaries and civilians with no training.
                it's over.
                accept your fate.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Lose flagship to country with no navy
                >Fail to achieve air supremacy over country with no air force
                >In slow losing stalemate with country with no army
                What does this say about Russia?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >lose sea access from day 1
                >your air force is the wienerroachtar falling from the sky
                >get bombed daily
                >camp in cities
                Ukraine, lol.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Next you'll say
                >"Moscow is still in Russian hands, /k/oper"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They still have an air force.
                You have ashes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Post Kiev

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine has no army left. it's mercenaries and civilians with no training.
                >it's over.
                >accept your fate.
                There are literally 180000 troops being trained abroad. You stupid fricking Black person.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                they're training to lose

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                2 more weeks

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yeah.
                they'll be in Sevastopol by autumn.
                any day now.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                stay mad Black person

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Black person, the Russians are already using press ganged old men and illiterate provincials.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                See you at Halloween

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Pathetic Russian troops are so good they don't even need training. They don't even need fancy Nato arms or armor.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine has no army left.
                >It's mercenaries and civilians with no training.
                And Russians are failing to win against that ?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              ukrainian soldiers are heroes. russian soldiers are worthless filth not deserving to be called humans. that's the difference. learn it. know it.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >it's war. soldiers die. it's normal.
              Not at the rates russian soldiers are dying to the poorest country in europe, lmao.
              America had how many dead in the 2003 invasion of iraq?
              Russia hasn't even taken a quarter of the country after half a year of fighting, 90+% of what it has captured was taken in the first 2 months and now russian soldiers are just dying for practically no gains.
              You have lost, it's over. Accept your fate

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And don't forget that Iraq was on the other side of the world for America, Russia and Ukraine are neighbors and the Russians already illegally sized Crimea and wee allowed to build up forces on the boarder with impunity.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                have you personally counted the dead in Ukraine?
                come on man
                >America had how many dead in the 2003 invasion of iraq?
                America lost
                >Russia hasn't even taken a quarter of the country after half a year of fighting, 90+% of what it has captured was taken in the first 2 months
                listen jack, Russia is winning and you lost.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                what? america never defeated the iraq army and removed the ba'ath party from power? is this true?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >is this true?
                And Russia will be in Berlin in one week, guaranteed.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >have you personally counted the dead in Ukraine?
                No, but judging by their progress coupled with the intensity of the conflict their casualties are heavy based on that alone.
                Then there is tracking of russian media from villages where a lot of soldiers come from, leaked numbers that were "typos" or from "hacks".
                Russia has clearly had high infantry casualties in ukraine, the question is just how high

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >No
                then shut up

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >We're both working on assumptions therefore I am right
                Lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Russia lost this war a couple months ago. They are no longer capable of neutralizing the ukrainian military or effectively defending the territory they have taken. The only question now is how long before they give up and whether they get to keep crimea

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Long term they are going to get airlifted and barged out of Crimea and leave a ton of shit behind.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It will depend on the settlement. Ukraine may formally cede crimea as a sop to russian pride. Retaking will be a b***h and the population there genuinely is massively pro russian. Personally I kinda hope Ukraine deports all ethnic russians from retaken territory and gives their property to returning ukrainian refugess. Would be poetic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine may formally cede crimea as a sop to russian pride
                ZERO fricking chance. Nobody in the Ukrainian government will accept that and over 90% of Ukrainians are against ceding territory to Russia.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We'll see. I suspect reality will demand SOME concession to Russia and I think ukraines ability to take and then hold Crimea are low. Effectively its already lost, and Russia considers it core territory. They genuinely might use nukes to defend it when they probabaly wouldnt for donbas or kherson.

                They have a much much better historical claim to it too, ukraines claim is pretty weak

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >historical claim
                By that logic, the British should have Crimea since it was settled by the Welsh. Don't be a moron.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/jSCJP83.png

                why are vatniks so desperate for a settlement and negotiated peace?

                Frick you you tankie Black person piece of shit. Literally every country on the planet, including fricking Russia, recognized Crimea as Ukrainian until the Russians invaded and I ly a tiny, tiny number of Russian vassals even pretend that it belongs to Russia now.

                As I said, we'll see. Russia has lost the war, only the scale of that defeat remains to be learnt

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Donetsk and Luhansk both founded by Brits as well

              • 2 years ago
                /out/ie

                I think all of Crimea should go to the Osman empire once again.
                Why can't Erdogan stop winning?

                Oh please, as if european conservatives are anything better. Ay least yhe US wasn't making an economy dependent on vatniks.

                Sadly, they aren't. It's as if conservatives are vulnerable to the promises of authoritarian strongmen somehow, isn't it?

                >Babruysk
                A person born and raised in Russia does not love his nature? Doesn't understand her beauty? Her flood meadows? Morning forest? Endless fields? Nightingale trills? Autumn leaf fall? The first snow? July haymaking? Steppe expanses? A Russian song? Russian character? You're Russian, aren't you? Were you born in Russia? Did you go to high school? Did you serve in the army? Did you study at a technical school? Did you work in a factory? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go, huh? Did you go to Bobruisk, huh? Did you go? Why are you silent? Did you go to Bobruisk? Huh? What are you mowing? A? Stuck, right? Did you go to Bobruisk? You, dick? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go, you bastard? Did you go, bastard? Did you go, you bastard? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? Why are you whining? Did you go, b***h? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? What are you whining about? What are you snuffling for, you bastard? What, eh? Whining? Whining, you bastard? What are you snuffling for? Right, frick? Right, frick? So that's it? Here? Here? Here? Oh, frick? Like this? Like this? Like this? Like that, frick? What the frick? What the frick? What the frick? Here? Here? Here? Here? What the frick? On, b***h? What the frick? On, b***h? What the frick? On, b***h? Are you fricking sick? Stuck, frick?

                Peak schizo posting.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Frick you you tankie Black person piece of shit. Literally every country on the planet, including fricking Russia, recognized Crimea as Ukrainian until the Russians invaded and I ly a tiny, tiny number of Russian vassals even pretend that it belongs to Russia now.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Objectively fricking wrong on every single point. Suicide is the only viable option for you.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yes and russia's ability to take what they currently hold with a permanent occupying force of several hundred thousand troops for the next several decades is reasonable lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do you morons even read? Russia has lost, they arent keeping any seized territory from this war

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No, but your theory is that Ukraine would accept the situation and hand over Crimea to Russia officially. Which will be a win for Russia. So that is unlikely to happen and Ukraine will be able tot ake it eventually. Might take a few years and lots of support but eventually.

                Russia's only hope atm is to leave, give everything back to pre-2014, pay reparations, hand over war criminals and hope that is enough. The issue is that Russia has destroyed the last 30 years of 'good will' by pretending to be normal. People should have seen the writing on the wall in 2008 but alas.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I dont believe ukraine will ever be able to force russia to hand over crimea. Ukrainian ability depends entirely on western support and the west isnt likely to continue once they have retaken their lost ground.

                Russia CANNOT withdraw without either being annihilated or getting SOMETHING, even just a token. Ukraine officially acknowledging the likely reality that they are never getting crimea back is the most probable concession ukraine will make. They will also spin some crap about purging all the nazis and not oppressing the russian minority of course

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukrainian ability depends entirely on western support
                For now. The time is linear thing though, and Ukraine is quickly building up their capacity to function without support

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >and Ukraine is quickly building up their capacity to function without support
                No they arent, at all. They are building up capacity to execute with the support they are getting. If the flow of foreign supplies stop they will collapse and that will be true for the next several decades. They dont have the economy for it

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sure they are, no reason why they would not have. And the Western strategists would have pointed that thing on day 1 as a thing they have to get in order if they did not think about it themselves.

                And "If the flow of foreign supplies stop" is a deluded dream in this globalised economy. They will get those things one way or another. In the worst case they just have to pay for them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Sure they are, no reason why they would not have.
                Their army cant run on domestically produced supply. At best it would be an army of barely supported infantry.

                >And "If the flow of foreign supplies stop" is a deluded dream in this globalised economy.
                It could stop in a second if a western politician decides the political cost of sending it is too high. Ukraine literally cannot afford to pay for anything, they are surviving on handouts and the stuff they are able to buy is limited by political decisions anyway. This is the reason zelensky's entire job these days is trying to convince the west to keep and increase its aid

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Their army cant run on domestically produced supply
                That's why they are building the capacity for it.
                >western politician
                Who is this magical "western politician" who has ultimate power over multitude of nations? Even Biden declaring that USA will sanction any country that supports Ukraine would not be enough to stop the russian hating countries.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No Western country recognises Crimea as part of Russia. UK as categorically said they will support until Crimea is back to Ukraine. I highly doubt that the USA would like to be upstaged by their attack dog so they likely will support it too.

                I mean Zelensky said yesterday that they won't stop until Crimea is liberated so he's gonna have to be forced to change his mind if you think the West won't continue to support. Even if they did get it, their main concern was NATO expanding... which it has done. On their border. Massively. So even if they got Crimea, Putin looks like a fool and a liar.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Words are close to meaningless. Realpolitik trumps everything. The west is not gonna bankroll this for ever and crimea makes for a pretty easy line to draw

                I might be wrong of course, but i genuinely think russia would go to the nukes before giving up crimea. They would accept the loss of everything else but not territory that was actually part of Russia before the USSR. Giving it up would collapse the government

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Words are close to meaningless
                Russia has threatened 'severe consequences' to many events; from the West supplying weapons to Finland and Sweden joining NATO, to Ukraine attacking Russian 'territory'. So yeah, I 100% agree, words are meaningless.
                >The West isn't going to bankroll forever
                Based on Russia's current ability to move forward, it won't need to. In fact, one could argue the West would like Crimea back into Ukraine's hands as a 'value for money' objective. Since it would absolutely end Russia as a player in Europe and possibly the world. If Russia wants to throw nukes over it. Then go for it. Ukraine has a nuclear umbrella with China. I for one would love to see either China nuking Russia in response or China backing out of the agreement and them being crippled with nations suddenly not being too keen to do Belt & Road with them any more... since treaties became utterly worthless as they could be reneged on at any point.

                Again, if you want to play the 'muh istory' card, then Crimea should be rightfully British as it was settled by the English https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_(medieval) And Donesk belongs to them too because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hughes_(businessman).

                See how this is a really fricking dumb basis of ownership?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >So yeah, I 100% agree, words are meaningless.
                Great

                > In fact, one could argue the West would like Crimea back into Ukraine's hands as a 'value for money' objective.
                I agree in principle, the west would definitely prefer this. I just think the time and money required to achieve it are too high to justify. I'm not even saying that crimea really is "rightfully" russian (I dont actually care), i'm saying the russians have a much better argument to make there than they do for anything else, and more importantly internally they absolutely consider it native russian soil. This means the cost for them giving it up is disproportionately high.

                >Their army cant run on domestically produced supply
                That's why they are building the capacity for it.
                >western politician
                Who is this magical "western politician" who has ultimate power over multitude of nations? Even Biden declaring that USA will sanction any country that supports Ukraine would not be enough to stop the russian hating countries.

                >That's why they are building the capacity for it.
                I would genuinely like to see evidence of this

                >Their army cant run on domestically produced supply
                That's why they are building the capacity for it.
                >western politician
                Who is this magical "western politician" who has ultimate power over multitude of nations? Even Biden declaring that USA will sanction any country that supports Ukraine would not be enough to stop the russian hating countries.

                >Who is this magical "western politician" who has ultimate power over multitude of nations?
                Literally biden. If US aid stops its over for ukraine even the rest continue to help. And if the us pulled back most of the other big players would too.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The West backing out now would be politically bad because it would tell any nation on the planet who has eyes for their neighbours
                >just hold out for a few months, the West will give up eventually
                Look at Uganda. They've discovered $10 TRILLION in gold recently. Nothing stopping Rwanda, a nation which is relatively wealthy for Africa, trying to take it. Apart from, you know, the international community. There is a reason Egypt hasn't invaded South Sudan over the latter's plan to dam the Nile. Because the international community would not like it, even if there is justifiable reasons. They'd want discourse and attempts to solve it peacefully. There is a reason Egypt is trying to rebuild its military into a more modern force. So it can fight South Sudan if they go ahead with their dam plans.

                My point is, if the West didn't support Ukraine, it gives nations the go ahead to treat the world like it is the 18th or 19th century, where you sail around the world planting your flag and saying this is ours now. If the West pull out of support now, it says that you just have to weather the storm for a few months. So one way or another, the West is in this until it ends. It might REDUCE the support, but the support won't even fully dry up. Ukraine is training troops in the UK now, I forget the ratio per month, but it isn't insignificant. Russia has botched this by failing to install their puppet into the Triple Union.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The West backing out now would be politically bad
                I'm not talking about now, I'm talking about a year from now when a ukrainian attempt to take crimea might be plausible and there is no longer any significant threat of russia taking ukrainian territory

                I'm sorry, you understand african nations fight each other all the time right? Russia is conducting a full scale invasion of ukraine and the west is BARELY involved. They didnt help at all last time or when russia invaded georgia. No one stepped in when azerbaijan and armenia had their scrap

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They fight each other. They don't go for 19th century annexations. The vast majority of conflicts are internal in Africa, currently. With various groups wanting independence or regime change. South Africa isn't invading Lesotho to fix the border gore by annexing it.

                If Ukraine is more likely to win come a year from now, then that'll just mean MORE support. When it was clear the Axis were going to lose the Second World War, many nations joined the Allies to get a piece of the pie, or at least attempt it. So if it was a case of Ukraine is now trained and equipped well enough to push into Crimea or whatever, then chances are they'll happily continue to support until it is done so. The support is purposefully the rate it is because they don't want Ukraine curbstomping Russia and then going full revenge mode and going into Russia proper itself. The West will give enough to make sure Russia suffers trying to advance and then enough in the hopes of a counter attack. Or, the more preferable option, Russia gives in.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Regarding egypt and south sudan, a war is happening there in the next 10-15 years. The dam is the setup

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nations already seem to have
                >the go ahead to treat the world like it is the 18th or 19th century

                So long as it aligns with US/Western interests, and you pinkie promise the UNSC that you're just there to pillage and coerce - but not claim the soil.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I would genuinely like to see evidence of this
                Crimea bombing is very likely canditate
                >Literally biden
                Lmao. Literally Poland alone could keep Ukraine running at this point now that russia is exchausted.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Crimea bombing is very likely canditate
                This is possible evidence that someone has given them better munitions. Its not evidence of them being able to produce them themselves.

                >Lmao. Literally Poland alone could keep Ukraine
                Dont be absurd, without western munitions ukraine would barely be able to resist and would have no ability whatsoever to counterattack. Russia would keep everything its taken

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Dont be absurd
                Russia is collapsing as we speak so there would not be need for much fighting anyway

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                your reddit fantasies have no basis in reality. putin is popular and enjoys massive support for this war at home. more than US presidents cant dream off when they go to war

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Even russians themselves think that Putin is a demented monkey and the war is killing russia.
                Anything else is just russia propaganda delusion.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >t got his news from vox
                you are wrong and live in a fantasy world. most russians are happy about this. they swallow the propaganda because its convenient, they know they are being lied to and they like it that way. the 'opposition' such as there is (lack of support) doesnt really care, at least not enough to make themselves known. better to keep quiet

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao, russians do not know what happiness is so how could they be happy?
                They are pissed off because they no longer get western goodies and only thing keeping them from revolting is violence and brutality

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                im sorry, the russians will support the government even when they have to stand in bread lines and have a 10 year waiting list on a family car. there will be no revolt

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Of course there wont be revolt. That is not because russians are happy though, it is because they are buckbroken pussies.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why are there almost zero volunteers then?
                All the "volunteers" come from bumfrickistan...
                How can this be aligned with your statement that there is support for the war?
                Where are the volunteers???

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                They're happy with the war asl ong as it's not them having to be the ones being sent to the grinder. Remember, the highest approval rate for this shit in Russia is coming from old boomers and assorted fossils that won't be sent out any time soon.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine has a nuclear umbrella with China.
                I sincerely doubt that China would do shit for Ukraine if Ukraine were attacked with nuclear weapons by Russia.

                I think the only reason China is stringing Ukraine along on that is to prevent Ukraine from flipping to recognize Taiwan right now, because Taiwan has sent financial aid (not sure about weapons, there are rumors but nothing announced) and even has some citizens volunteering with Ukraine's foreign fighters.

                Meanwhile, China is siding with Russia politically, is supplying weaposn to Russia, and is allowing its vassal state North Korea to negotiate sending goblin hordes.

                >So yeah, I 100% agree, words are meaningless.
                Great

                > In fact, one could argue the West would like Crimea back into Ukraine's hands as a 'value for money' objective.
                I agree in principle, the west would definitely prefer this. I just think the time and money required to achieve it are too high to justify. I'm not even saying that crimea really is "rightfully" russian (I dont actually care), i'm saying the russians have a much better argument to make there than they do for anything else, and more importantly internally they absolutely consider it native russian soil. This means the cost for them giving it up is disproportionately high.

                [...]
                >That's why they are building the capacity for it.
                I would genuinely like to see evidence of this

                [...]
                >Who is this magical "western politician" who has ultimate power over multitude of nations?
                Literally biden. If US aid stops its over for ukraine even the rest continue to help. And if the us pulled back most of the other big players would too.

                >I just think the time and money required to achieve [forcing Russia to give up Crimea to Ukraine] are too high to justify.
                I'm not so sure the cost would be all that high.

                Ukraine striking the Crimean airbase yesterday shows that they can destroy Russian military bases there.

                Russian airbases and missile bases in Crimea are part of the Russian defense of Kherson.

                Ukraine is making preparations to attack Kherson, and without support from Crimea the Russian troops are in a worsening position to hold it.

                If Ukraine can retake Kherson, they can cut off the river water to Crimea again.

                The value of Sevastopol as a naval base is going to become near zero if Ukraine has long-range accurate missiles that can simply blow up every Russian ship that docks there.

                And, lastly, Ukraine's increased missile range means they can take out the Kerch Strait Bridge. I expect this to happen by the end of the year. If that happens, Russia will have no way to supply its troops there or feed them, other than of course a "Berlin Airlift" equivalent.

                Throw some air-to-air missiles onto TB2s and watch all those planes get blown out of the sky.

                Personally, I think Russia is fricked, but hey, I'm ok with that.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nukes aren't just "break in case of emergency" They're a murder suicide pact and even Russia can't delude themselves about that. It might be hard to believe, but Russia is probably more willing to give up Crimea than die in a nuclear inferno. They threaten to NOOOK because bluffing is the only strategic value a weapon you aren't willing to use provides.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >but Russia is probably more willing to give up Crimea than die in a nuclear inferno.
                Im not certain of that at all. Giving up crimea would be giving up legit (in their view) russian home soil. The government would almost certainly collapse over it and its the government who controls the nukes. Keep in mind that MAD is a US doctrine not a russian one, russian doctrine that came out after the cold war ended showed they were a lot more willing than the US to entertain a limited exchange

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Im not certain of that at all. Giving up crimea would be giving up legit (in their view) russian home soil.
                there's a multi-layered game here. it's not enough that russia "thinks it's legit" (or claims to think that); they need to consider what the global community thinks is legit as well, "legit" being substiantially informed by gaem theory and logical penumbras or whatever. russia proposing that they'll nuke if ukies take crimea, is hard to distinguish from arbitrary nuclear nations bumrushing a neighbor and threatening to nuke if the neighbor attempts to reclaim clay. since the game theory shakeout of that being considered "legit" would be a massive uptick in nuclear proliferation. proliferation is unacceptable to current nuclear powers, so that logic is not legit, and that putin attempting to use it, is tantamount to pushing the red button then and there.

                consider the current example of a legit strategy: NATO supplying rocket artillery to ukraine. this is justified, as are many other measures aside from boots-on-ground and threats to russia nuclear command and control, because the Soviet Union played similar games in e.g. the Korean War. up to sending their own pilots. turnabout is fair play.

              • 2 years ago
                /out/ie

                The west isn't bankrolling this now. This is a lendlease, which means gear is given as a lend or lease, eventually Ukraine has to pay everything back. Every rocket, grenade, MRE, arty, ship, all of it.
                Reminder that the UK finished their last payment of their lendlease from the US in 2020!

              • 2 years ago
                /out/ie

                This is another reason why Ukraine can't fall into the Russian sphere of influence, the investment would be lost.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but Biden said the only payment we'll accept is in castrated Russian testicles. The Ukies are going to be slaving away for us for a long time since the market value of those is basically nothing.

              • 2 years ago
                /out/ie

                They promised to pay for the German stuff in resources they have plenty of, like so far untapped gas fields and certain minerals.

                >Russia's only hope atm is to leave, give everything back to pre-2014, pay reparations, hand over war criminals and hope that is enough.
                They might leave, give everything back to pre 2022 borders, and they'll never hand over war criminals while Putin is in power.

                You can start a war on your terms, but it's not guaranteed you can end a war you started when you don't like it anymore. Ukraine would and should not stop forcing Russia out.

                [...]
                Nah he's probably just patting him down for his flask and smokes.

                Brutal.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This is another reason why Ukraine can't fall into the Russian sphere of influence, the investment would be lost.

                The fact that the US gave weapons to Ukraine is basically a gamble, and the US isn't too keen on losing gambles. It's effectively a comittment to the next 50 years that we will fricking remove Russia from the sphere of world influence.

                China is an entirely different ball game, and they want to see russia removed as well as Russia doesn't buy nearly as much shit from them, but they seek to milk a dying cow while they can. US and China even though we disagree about taiwan - is a fricking strong friendship and despite the shade throwing in the media the US is already taking steps to replace taiwan's contributions to our economy with domestic production.
                Taiwan was a cash cow but ultimately it's irrelevant and they won't receive any aid once China actually invades.
                Being an Island nation - they will fall significantly quicker than Ukraine ever would. Their young people honestly don't give a frick, it's picking between taiwanese corruption or chink corruption. Jaded and demoralized they will have a few patriots but ultimately the winners will be the refugees of scientists and shit who leave before the first shot is fired and resume their lives working for US domestic production of the same shit that got btfo in taiwan.

                >The world is a place that does business

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukrainian ability depends entirely on western support
                For now. The time is linear thing though, and Ukraine is quickly building up their capacity to function without support

                No Western country recognises Crimea as part of Russia. UK as categorically said they will support until Crimea is back to Ukraine. I highly doubt that the USA would like to be upstaged by their attack dog so they likely will support it too.

                I mean Zelensky said yesterday that they won't stop until Crimea is liberated so he's gonna have to be forced to change his mind if you think the West won't continue to support. Even if they did get it, their main concern was NATO expanding... which it has done. On their border. Massively. So even if they got Crimea, Putin looks like a fool and a liar.

                the only way Ukraine can stomach losing Crimea officially is if they can get NATO membership or an alliance with the US as part of the part.
                otherwise Russia will try again in ten years, potentially when GOP is in power.

              • 2 years ago
                /out/ie

                That.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                as an European it still baffles my mind how willingly the US conservatives suck russian dick. Tom Clancy is rolling in his grave

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh please, as if european conservatives are anything better. Ay least yhe US wasn't making an economy dependent on vatniks.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >as an European it still baffles my mind how willingly the US conservatives suck russian dick. Tom Clancy is rolling in his grave
                As an American it still baffles my mind how Germany could suck Russian ass-gas so hard that it gave up its nuclear power plants and made its entire economy wholly dependent on Vladimir Putin's goodwill -- especially after THEY WERE WARNED BY TRUMP NOT TO DO IT.

                Conservatives aren't "sucking Russian dick", they are trying to demand accountability from the Biden admin. Of the $50B in aid so far, most of the monetary part is bullshit earmarks for things like "climate change".

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The Germans thought that the Russians would be willing to buy in to the post ww2 liberal NWO of "if we trade enough we won't go to war". The problem is that Russia is very much controlled by ex Soviets who still view global politics as a borderline zero-sum game, whereas even the Chinese are at the point that global trade steers their politics in at least some capacity.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lol, Russian annexed crimea when obama was in the power.
                Now Russia invade Ukraine

                Stop lying

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia CANNOT withdraw without either being annihilated or getting SOMETHING
                Not my problem.jpg
                In fact, that's mostly what the West is hoping for: for Russia to keep sending more and more of its resources into the death trap because they can't afford to lose face. Sunk cost fallacy is a thing, after all.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Anon that's the point. We are boiling a frog here. So long as Putin needs to save face, he'll keep acting like everything is fine. And so we just send more of our cold war surp to Ukraine to fulfill its original purpose--the destruction of the Russian armed force. It's cheaper to let Ukraine do the fighting than for us to do it, and so far it's turned out quite well.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia's only hope atm is to leave, give everything back to pre-2014, pay reparations, hand over war criminals and hope that is enough.
                They might leave, give everything back to pre 2022 borders, and they'll never hand over war criminals while Putin is in power.

              • 2 years ago
                /out/ie

                >historical claim
                Historicaly it belongs to Germany: "Once the Axis (German and Romanian troops) broke through, they occupied most of Crimea, with the exception of the city of Sevastopol, which was given the title of Hero City for its resistance, and Kerch, which was recaptured by the Soviets"
                Historical claims are no claims at all. Either you can conquer and hold, or not. That is all there is.
                It's lawfully, as signed by the Russians in 1991, Ukraine territory.

                LET THEM USE NOOKS! DO IT!

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                pure vatnik cope

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off, vatniks dont think russian defeat is inevitable

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                why are vatniks so desperate for a settlement and negotiated peace?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >there genuinely is massively pro russian

                Maybe because there was a silent ethnic cleansing post-2014. Pro-Ukrainian folks emigrated, while Russians moved in lured by cheap property prices.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                > as a sop to russian pride
                Stop posting on PrepHole Macron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >America lost
                politically, I'd agree but they won militarily. They utterly ass blasted them both during the gulf war and 2003 invasion

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >America had how many dead in the 2003 invasion of iraq?
                >America lost

                This is some real shit-tier bait you got there.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                had how many dead in the 2003 invasion of iraq?
                >America lost

                Not in Iraq. Pyrrhic victory at absurd expense but certainly not a defeat.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >it's war. soldiers die. it's normal.
              we're talking about dead russian pig homos here, not soldiers/

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >dead
            How barbaric.

            Ukies say now: "The only thing better than a dead Russian is a wounded Russian. Dead don't need anything. Wounded consume resources".

            So I guess the second bomb won't be coming.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Ukies say now: "The only thing better than a dead Russian is a wounded Russian. Dead don't need anything. Wounded consume resources".
              Ukies are wrong here, clearly the russians do not give a frick about their wounded and prefer them dead than a nuissance.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Frickin eh. a 2 bagger

          • 2 years ago
            /out/ie

            Isn't it highly irregular that one Ruskie cares about another Ruskie? This feels off.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yeah ngl i got kinda the feels
              >crawls up to his comrade
              "eh buddy you okay bro??"
              >as he's bleeding out and injured as well
              "lets go man. lets get outta this bullshit hell"
              that was some next level empathy (for russians)
              i hope that guy makes it through the war and propaganda wall.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yeah ngl i got kinda the feels
              >crawls up to his comrade
              "eh buddy you okay bro??"
              >as he's bleeding out and injured as well
              "lets go man. lets get outta this bullshit hell"
              that was some next level empathy (for russians)
              i hope that guy makes it through the war and propaganda wall.

              Nah he's probably just patting him down for his flask and smokes.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              He was wanting one last buttfrick to get that dying conscript quiver.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              He's checking if he dropped any good loot.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Driver did the smart thing closing his hatch.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Arma really improved its animations.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Forever enlisted in the lists of the military unit for the last 30 years. Half died in the first Chechen war. Khokhol, you're not trying at all.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >picture shows they died in 2022
          cope moar

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You blind, homosexual?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Died
          >2022
          Technically Chechens probably killed them either from the front or the back though.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If they capture this guy, do you think he'll be arrested and tried or do you think we'll get to see a snuff film of him being murdered?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >if they capture this guy
        that's a big if. he's adding slaves for the afterlife.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        now that the FSB fricked up not only once, but twice, in hiding this guy's identity and guilt, i wouldn't be surprised if he was suddenly killed by a thermobaric rocket in his home's elevator by an unknown "non-state actor"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I still chuckle whenever I see someone worshipping that guy, his handlers didn't even blink. He became elevator goo for PR

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Givi and Motorola? There's even a vatnik telegram page that has him as the avatar... Could you imagine being killed by your own people?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah he's just gonna be recruited into the torture squads.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Remember when Russia was pretending to liberate Ukraine?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        it never stopped liberating

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This is the theme for Vatnik smoking accidents

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Slava Z took down that post, so it was probably fake news.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a prelude for Ukrainian liberation of Belarus?

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All over twitter at present but no video - pls post if you see anything thx.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    good news. hope its true. ukraine need to attack with long range missiles more and more to win

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    hi glowies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Forever enlisted in the lists of the military unit for the last 30 years. Half died in the first Chechen war. Khokhol, you're not trying at all.

      Back to /chug/ homosexual.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure thats just a bot.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder to let the baits and/or coping vatniks squirm in peace.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Odd how the cum/chug/gers are awfully quiet now. There threads don't want to talk about this attack or yesterday's crimean one.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The false flag finally happened? I was wondering when Russia would play this card.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    0 proofs as of yet......once again americans jumping on every rumors

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Belarussian falseflag to give them them a reason to go into Ukraine?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      that would be an even bigger disaster than the russian invasion
      they suffer from every problem that the russian army has tenfold, the worst of all morale

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Babruysk
    A person born and raised in Russia does not love his nature? Doesn't understand her beauty? Her flood meadows? Morning forest? Endless fields? Nightingale trills? Autumn leaf fall? The first snow? July haymaking? Steppe expanses? A Russian song? Russian character? You're Russian, aren't you? Were you born in Russia? Did you go to high school? Did you serve in the army? Did you study at a technical school? Did you work in a factory? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go, huh? Did you go to Bobruisk, huh? Did you go? Why are you silent? Did you go to Bobruisk? Huh? What are you mowing? A? Stuck, right? Did you go to Bobruisk? You, dick? Did you go to Bobruisk? Did you go, you bastard? Did you go, bastard? Did you go, you bastard? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? Why are you whining? Did you go, b***h? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? Did you fricking go? What are you whining about? What are you snuffling for, you bastard? What, eh? Whining? Whining, you bastard? What are you snuffling for? Right, frick? Right, frick? So that's it? Here? Here? Here? Oh, frick? Like this? Like this? Like this? Like that, frick? What the frick? What the frick? What the frick? Here? Here? Here? Here? What the frick? On, b***h? What the frick? On, b***h? What the frick? On, b***h? Are you fricking sick? Stuck, frick?

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *