Bear defense sidearms?

I might be moving to Kodiak, Alaska for work soon (God willing) and in the interview they told me that they highly recommend carrying a gun for bears since I'll be working outside a lot. Anyone got any recommendations for handguns I can carry that will do the job without being insanely unwieldy and annoying to carry around all day? I could google it but asking /k/ sounds more fun.

This is a serious question btw I really am shopping for bear defense guns.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You've got good odds with any combination that isn't a .22 and a polar bear.
    https://www.ammoland.com/2021/06/handgun-or-pistol-against-bear-attacks-104-cases-97-effective/#axzz7OqMMNaDn

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      this. pick something you shoot well and load it with the hottest ammo it will take

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is great, thank you. I'll probably just buy a 10mm 1911 since I've always wanted one and apparently it's more than enough

      I really hate all you lower 48 pricks moving up here, you won't be welcomed and the only people who will act happy to see you are either actively profiting from you or plan to. With that being said, Smith and Wesson 329PD with full house buffalo bore.

      I'm moving to a town that literally only exists to support an industry entirely staffed by guys who live in Seattle for 9 months a year. I'm sure I'll be fine.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        the only disadvantage of 10mm is that the people who shoot it can't fricking stop talking about it. all of the memes about 10mm users being unable to shut up about it are 100% true. otherwise it's a good cartridge

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the only disadvantage of 10mm is that the people who shoot it can't fricking stop talking about it.
          Well when it comes to killing bears, 10mm actually has a proven track record. In fact that's basically the one context where I hear people recommend 10mm.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have fun burning out in a few months when you realize what living in the bush really is. Frick yourself, prick.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you assume I don't know what it's like to live and work in the bush? Don't you think that if I'm being hired from the states to do a job in Alaska that I:

          1. Probably have some relevant experience

          2. Have skills needed for this job that can't be found locally?

          I'm not gonna tell you what I do for a living (it's not fishing, military, oil, mining, or tourism) but I'll be living and working in town 90% of the time and making trips out into the middle of nowhere the rest of the time. If they could've hired locally they would've. I grew up in super rural PNW I know what it's like to dig a hole to shit in and drive 2 hours to buy groceries and whatever other dumbass shit you're gonna tell me I'm not prepared for. Please stop throwing a tantrum, you sound moronic.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Types four paragraph essay
            >Please stop your tantrum

            You're a soft handed b***h with no idea what he's getting himself into. KYS, blood sucker.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              you write like a woman.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are you a bear with a phobia of handguns

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              What exactly am I getting myself into, anon? Please share with the class how hard it's going to be for me to live in a temperate coastal town of 6000 people with a Safeway and a McDonalds.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'll let you figure it out, leech.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are the human equivalent of stepping in a puddle with just socks on.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Come on now, don't be shy

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus bro, some outta state worker frick your girl or some shit?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Given this info, a short-barrelled .357 seems to be the best compromise if you can only afford one (1) gun. Relatively easy to carry, yet packs a punch. Smith & Wesson's Model 627 has 8 shots if you're badly scared of running out, but they're not cheap.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’d be careful with a 10mm 1911. People say they have issues. Do your own research though, don’t take my word for it.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    10 mil glock or .44+ revolver

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Avoid confronting bears. Be loud and pay attention outdoors.
    2. Get bear spray (pic related to show capacity, I don’t know this brand)
    3. Any revolver in .44 Magnum
    If you’re loudly talking in a group of people bears will avoid you. If you’re paying attention you won’t stumble upon a bear with its cubs. If you come across a bear do NOT run away. If it hasn’t noticed you, back away slowly while looking at it. If it’s walking towards you, dispense bear spray aimed under its nose. Spray is the best resolution for a bear attack because your hearing remains undamaged and the bear is uninjured. The revolver is a last resort. In the lower 48 .44 Mag is unnecessary for bears, but in Alaska they need something bigger.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      get a load of this wuss, shoot bears on sight. frickers need to learn to steer well clear on job sites

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        How will they learn if they're dead? Macing them will teach them to fear humans

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >localized extinction
          >natural selection of timid bears
          >cubs learning behavior from mothers

          pick one moron

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            More liberalized ruralish/suburban areas on the west coast are learning this lesson the hard way. Bears in areas with low gun ownership are losing fear of humans.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        LARPer. How's San Fran?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hearing damage
      >shooting in a forest
      yeah

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can tell you've never shot outdoors, kek.
      The absolute state of this board.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    10mm is the classic bear killer round

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    .357 with some good buffalo bore ammo
    anything else is LARPing

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really hate all you lower 48 pricks moving up here, you won't be welcomed and the only people who will act happy to see you are either actively profiting from you or plan to. With that being said, Smith and Wesson 329PD with full house buffalo bore.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    here's your options
    >9mm
    in spite of having a reputation for being underpowered, a 9mm handgun firing fmj or hardcast should have plenty of penetration. your advantage here is quick and plentiful followup shots. you can't be sure that any one shot will be a stop, even if you hit a bear in the head. the large flat surface of the skull, when angled, can deflect a bullet. with a 9mm, you just keep pulling the trigger.
    >357 mag
    this is my personal choice. it has more power, and a lot of penetration. We are talking 80" or more with a monolithic non-expanding projectile. and making an exit wound doubles the rate at which blood is lost, more or less. there's no such thing as overpenetration innawoods.
    >44 mag
    this is, in my opinion, the most powerful practical cartridge. it should have more momentum than the 357 mag, giving it even more penetration. you are also looking at even fewer deflections from bone and such, but you are sacrificing weight and the speed and amount of followup shots. even so it is formidable.
    >10mm
    I don't own and haven't shot one (unlike everything above) but I hear a lot of good stuff about them so I'm sure it'll work fine. Ballistically it's kind of similar to 357 mag, but is a little bit larger in diameter while having similar bullet weight and velocity.
    >anything bigger
    is a meme, imo. I think of stuff like 454 casull, 500 mag, and the like as being hunting cartridges, e.g. offensive in nature. They are fun to shoot but in practical terms they have a lot of disadvantages.

    and then we have to talk about caliber platforms. revolvers and autoloaders have different advantages. If you "really" need a gun, that scenario is probably not going to enable sustained fire, you're going to have to make the stop in a few shots. I don't think the lower capacity of a revolver is going to hurt you much, and being able to fire it with the barrel shoved in the creature's throat might be an advantage.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think that the disadvantages of an auto (cannot fire out of battery) will matter in most cases, and on the flip side they are in some ways more reliable than revolvers. I also don't think the higher capacity will matter much, but that's an advantage as well. The most important thing is that you have practiced enough to shoot quickly and accurately and have a mastery of the manual of arms. The absolute worst thing that could possibly happen is that something unexpected happens when you pull the trigger. You should also make an accomodation toward comfort and long term wear. A gun you left in the toolbox won't do you any good when you need it the most. In such a case, a 380 pocket pistol would be more useful, if that's what you're willing to carry all the time.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they are in some ways more reliable than revolvers
        Do tell. I've always heard revolvers were more reliable because of their simplicity.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I own two revolvers and probably shoot them more than 99% of revolver owners

          the crane arm, and everything attached to it, is one big point of vulnerability for DA revolvers. If it gets bent it'll cause a lot of jams and malfunctions and could at worst blow up your gun. I have had to replace a crane arm before. The extractor star is a point of vulnerability when it comes to keeping your gun clean. With a glock, or really any good modern handgun, you really can shoot them for thousands of rounds before cleaning related malfunctions begin to occur. But dirt and grime under the extractor star can cause severe jams to the point where you can't even pull the trigger. These malfunctions begin to occur at 500 rounds fired but I have seen them happen at the 200 round count. The gun is basically vomiting burnt powder on itself through the cylinder gap so it's to be expected. And then there's general maintenance of the cylinder / extractor rod and such, these parts need to be kept lubricated. All of these issues can be prevented via intelligent and responsible gun ownership, but that is not the same as saying those issues do not exist. When you compare revolvers and autos in an objective manner it should be clear that modern autos really do have an advantage when it comes to functioning at over a certain threshold of abuse.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Look Kyle.. no one gives a shit about your diamondback sidekick….

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              They're both ruger 357 mag revolvers

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon… how did you break 2 rugers? If smith and Wesson and colt are the sexy blonde super models of the revolver world then Ruger is the overbuilt German beer maid who looks like they started their day by benchpressing kegs…. Perhaps consider cleaning them more than once every 500 rounds? This is probably decent advice with any firearm….

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you for the extensive and thoughtful post, anon.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just saw 9mm fail to take out a dog in bongistan.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    10mm mag. Carry high capacity mags and bear-killing bullets. .357 mag has pretty much stopped every bear it was used to defend against with one shot, rarely two. 10mm mag is basically that, plus a touch of extra ooompf. It's everything you need, and you can carry 30 to 50 rounds on you so you don't have to care about bragging rights on one-shot-stop, you got bragging rights on being alive. That's the checkbox that counts. Invest in a couple thousand rounds of training for the first year. As a minimum. I'm a .357 guy, but if I was in your situation I would move on up a bump to 10mm and feel pretty comfy.

    Practice. A lot. Shot placement still counts.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    In 70s or 80s a police officer in Czechoslovakia killed a bear with his CZ50 in .32 ACP because a drunk went to sleep in a bears lair.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    10mm, .357 magnum, .44 magnum. Make sure you have a capacity of at least 5 shots, and don't cheap out on ammo or the platform (THAT MEANS NO TAURUS, POORgay.)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      10mm mag. Carry high capacity mags and bear-killing bullets. .357 mag has pretty much stopped every bear it was used to defend against with one shot, rarely two. 10mm mag is basically that, plus a touch of extra ooompf. It's everything you need, and you can carry 30 to 50 rounds on you so you don't have to care about bragging rights on one-shot-stop, you got bragging rights on being alive. That's the checkbox that counts. Invest in a couple thousand rounds of training for the first year. As a minimum. I'm a .357 guy, but if I was in your situation I would move on up a bump to 10mm and feel pretty comfy.

      Practice. A lot. Shot placement still counts.

      here's your options
      >9mm
      in spite of having a reputation for being underpowered, a 9mm handgun firing fmj or hardcast should have plenty of penetration. your advantage here is quick and plentiful followup shots. you can't be sure that any one shot will be a stop, even if you hit a bear in the head. the large flat surface of the skull, when angled, can deflect a bullet. with a 9mm, you just keep pulling the trigger.
      >357 mag
      this is my personal choice. it has more power, and a lot of penetration. We are talking 80" or more with a monolithic non-expanding projectile. and making an exit wound doubles the rate at which blood is lost, more or less. there's no such thing as overpenetration innawoods.
      >44 mag
      this is, in my opinion, the most powerful practical cartridge. it should have more momentum than the 357 mag, giving it even more penetration. you are also looking at even fewer deflections from bone and such, but you are sacrificing weight and the speed and amount of followup shots. even so it is formidable.
      >10mm
      I don't own and haven't shot one (unlike everything above) but I hear a lot of good stuff about them so I'm sure it'll work fine. Ballistically it's kind of similar to 357 mag, but is a little bit larger in diameter while having similar bullet weight and velocity.
      >anything bigger
      is a meme, imo. I think of stuff like 454 casull, 500 mag, and the like as being hunting cartridges, e.g. offensive in nature. They are fun to shoot but in practical terms they have a lot of disadvantages.

      and then we have to talk about caliber platforms. revolvers and autoloaders have different advantages. If you "really" need a gun, that scenario is probably not going to enable sustained fire, you're going to have to make the stop in a few shots. I don't think the lower capacity of a revolver is going to hurt you much, and being able to fire it with the barrel shoved in the creature's throat might be an advantage.

      10mm w/ ext.mags and autosear is the perfect bearstopper. The govt should literally hand them out to all bear country residents.
      Meanwhile
      > there are no glowies innawewds

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        add a laser-light foregrip and upgrade to 50 round drum and strap it to your chest you've got the perfect pest control device while hiking

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too bad no such gun exists, and 10mm is a weak sauce round.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >glock 40 + autosear + 50 round drum + hot af rounds bb:* + laserlight foregrip
          Black folk wag these things around all the time, sans foregrip,
          >what are you?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Alright then you’ll have no problem posting a few examples of them would you?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          10mm mag. Carry high capacity mags and bear-killing bullets. .357 mag has pretty much stopped every bear it was used to defend against with one shot, rarely two. 10mm mag is basically that, plus a touch of extra ooompf. It's everything you need, and you can carry 30 to 50 rounds on you so you don't have to care about bragging rights on one-shot-stop, you got bragging rights on being alive. That's the checkbox that counts. Invest in a couple thousand rounds of training for the first year. As a minimum. I'm a .357 guy, but if I was in your situation I would move on up a bump to 10mm and feel pretty comfy.

          Practice. A lot. Shot placement still counts.

          here's your options
          >9mm
          in spite of having a reputation for being underpowered, a 9mm handgun firing fmj or hardcast should have plenty of penetration. your advantage here is quick and plentiful followup shots. you can't be sure that any one shot will be a stop, even if you hit a bear in the head. the large flat surface of the skull, when angled, can deflect a bullet. with a 9mm, you just keep pulling the trigger.
          >357 mag
          this is my personal choice. it has more power, and a lot of penetration. We are talking 80" or more with a monolithic non-expanding projectile. and making an exit wound doubles the rate at which blood is lost, more or less. there's no such thing as overpenetration innawoods.
          >44 mag
          this is, in my opinion, the most powerful practical cartridge. it should have more momentum than the 357 mag, giving it even more penetration. you are also looking at even fewer deflections from bone and such, but you are sacrificing weight and the speed and amount of followup shots. even so it is formidable.
          >10mm
          I don't own and haven't shot one (unlike everything above) but I hear a lot of good stuff about them so I'm sure it'll work fine. Ballistically it's kind of similar to 357 mag, but is a little bit larger in diameter while having similar bullet weight and velocity.
          >anything bigger
          is a meme, imo. I think of stuff like 454 casull, 500 mag, and the like as being hunting cartridges, e.g. offensive in nature. They are fun to shoot but in practical terms they have a lot of disadvantages.

          and then we have to talk about caliber platforms. revolvers and autoloaders have different advantages. If you "really" need a gun, that scenario is probably not going to enable sustained fire, you're going to have to make the stop in a few shots. I don't think the lower capacity of a revolver is going to hurt you much, and being able to fire it with the barrel shoved in the creature's throat might be an advantage.

          10mm is the classic bear killer round

          10mm mag. Carry high capacity mags and bear-killing bullets. .357 mag has pretty much stopped every bear it was used to defend against with one shot, rarely two. 10mm mag is basically that, plus a touch of extra ooompf. It's everything you need, and you can carry 30 to 50 rounds on you so you don't have to care about bragging rights on one-shot-stop, you got bragging rights on being alive. That's the checkbox that counts. Invest in a couple thousand rounds of training for the first year. As a minimum. I'm a .357 guy, but if I was in your situation I would move on up a bump to 10mm and feel pretty comfy.

          Practice. A lot. Shot placement still counts.

          >many more, search thread Black personisraelite ywnbaw
          These anons think 10mm is good, why are your troonyjewbots still shitting on anons without providing substantiation of opinion?

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to give you an idea I haven't seen anyone else say yet, but if you handload then a Ruger Redhawk in .45 Colt/.45acp (they can take both) can be loaded to pack an absolute shitload of power in a fairly small, carriable package, and with the option for .45 acp you can get factory ammo for casual range fun. .45 Colt out of a strong, modern double action frame can actually be loaded considerably more powerful than .44 magnum at a lower pressure. You can use the S&W model 25 (what I have) or an old Colt New Service or something, but you need to be a little more careful loading those to top end loads and they won't be stainless like the Redhawk. The 625 works too, but most of those were chambered in .4 acp only. I'm normally not a Rugar fan, but for this one purpose they're kind of an off the shelf ready to go gun that you don't need to go to town modifying like I'm trying to do to mine.

    If you don't handload, get a .44 magnum revolver or at least a strong .357 loaded with Buffalo Bore to carry, and then keep a lever action .45-70 or a 12 gauge loaded with slugs in/on your vehicle and readily accessible. Practice a bit at least once a month with both so you know you can use them without fumbling if you need to.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    9 mm is unironically enough

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >9 mm is unironically enough
      Unironically, it truly is. There are other conditionals to the question. But, a strong familiarity with 9mm and various loads/bullets available is entirely, unironically more than enough for any bear encounter.

      I'm not gonna argue with .357/.44/10mm gays .. they're all good. But, a solid self-defense load in 9mm and maybe P+ is going to take care of you. If you want more insurance, go 10mm. Research effective loads & such.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You shouldn't ever be alone in bear country anyway. Certainly not in brown bear country. 9mm is plenty powerful for black bear.
        If, on the off chance, you are stupid enough to be in brown bear country, you had better be smart enough to have someone with you carrying an equally powerful firearm. Even a massive Kodiak grizzly won't shrug off 2 guys peppering him with .357 Magnum Buffalo Bore 180gr JHPs.

        Also, why would you even be there unless you were hunting elk or moose? At which point you will have some ridiculously powerful rifle like a .300 WM that will kill anything on this and most other continents in an instant.

        What actually matters is hitting your shots with the fear-induced turd peaking out of your butthole. A well placed 9mm will absolutely wreck a bear, but a .500 S&W into the dirt behind it won't.

        That said, I still think .357 Magnum (especially the Buffalo Bore 180gr JHPs) are your best bet for any defense situation against wildlife, carnivorous or herbivorous. 3" barrel, comfy, doesn't get in your way, you are still lobbing 180gr of lead at 1,300 FPS at an extremely unlucky beast. Will drop a grizzly just as well as it will drop an aggressive moose.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you're planning on shooting bears bring a rifle, simple as.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. But defense generally implies you didn't plan on shooting one. If I'm specifically hunting bear, I'll just bring my .300 WM. Now, carrying a 26" barrel bolt rifle with a big, heavy scope on a walk innawoods isn't exactly practical. That's also why shotguns are a dog shit choice, because they aren't any good for hunting nor have the practicality and portability of a handgun. Shotguns are the worst of both worlds.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >What actually matters is hitting your shots with the fear-induced turd peaking out of your butthole.
          Kek

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it isn't homosexual. Good 9mm self defense loads won't drop a junkie right away depending on shot placement. Sure, he might be fatally wounded but he doesn't know it yet and is still dangerous. Now picture 800 lbs of pissed off bear with a skull and body designed to absorb blunt force and slashing trauma from other pissed off bears with 3-4 inch claws bearing down on you. No guarantee that your hollow point penetrates the skull and no guarantee it hits a vital organ. Even if it does fatally wound the bear, there's a good chance that it closes distance and mauls you before it dies. Have you heard of the Ruger Alaskan? It's a short barrel .44 Mag for a reason, it's maneuverable and powerful. If you're going the .357 route then I would say you probably don't want anything shorter than 4 inches.
        Fricking 9mm gays make me want to sell my 9mm pistol and ammo so I can't be associated with you.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          See [...]
          9mm will not stop a bear in a way that counts. A 44 Mag will drop it. Those frickers move fast, you're most likely not going to get 17 shots on target before it's on you. If it's not really dedicated then you can probably fire in its direction to scare it away but it is not a sufficient defense round in bear country. But please, go carry your Glock 17 in bear country during mating season. Make sure to live stream it so we can all watch the aftermath.

          Damn, you must feel really moronic after reading this.
          https://www.americanhunter.org/content/alaska-outfitter-defends-fishermen-from-raging-grizzly-with-9mm-pistol/

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            this article does not make me want to carry a 9mm in bear country at all

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It just so happens it completely rapes and refutes every argument you've brought forth. I'm the Chadolf anon, by the way, so my personal choice would also be a .357 Magnum with heavy 180gr pills, but if hot 9mm out of a 3.5" barrel drops a grizzly in 6-7 shots (a third of what a G17 holds), then the anons claiming it is adequate are obviously correct.
              They wouldn't need to buy an extra gun for the express purpose of killing a bear when they already have a 9mm, which is literally all anyone's arguing. No one is claiming it's the be all and end all cartridge for every situation.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anecdotes don’t “rape and refute” arguments you moronic idiot.
                Also it sounds like he shot it 6 times and it was still mobile.
                In short, youre a mongoloid

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                t. raped and refuted
                also
                >recorded, documented real life evidence is an anecdote

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Alright homosexual go into bear country with your 9mm and maybe a dictionary.
                For non morons who are capable of understanding the concept of an outlier and have genes worth passing on, bring a 10mm with hot rounds.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                IT doesn't, especially when fpbp has hundreds of articles and more comprehensively beats your one example.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The argument is about bear defense sidearms. I never said, that 9mm wouldn't kill a bear. Thing is that it is not adequate to perform the job. Just like a .22 LR pocket pistol is not truly adequate for self defense. It'll dissuade the less determined attackers but is unlikely to stop a determined attacker in his tracks absent a head shot. Same with 9mm and large bears. .44 Magnum is more than adequate on the other hand to stop a grizzly with out perfect shot placement. I also agree that .357 would work well but think you'd have to have a longer barrel which may bring it's own set of issues.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Except 9mm proved itself to work. .44 and .357 mag will not drop a bear unless you hit the vitals as well buddy.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                .44 to the bear's shoulder will absolutely obliterate it. Not guaranteed with a 9mm. Listen, one incident where 9mm worked doesn't prove shit in this instance. Bears are predators and are more likely to attack you when they have the element of surprise or you're crouched down. Think you're fishing with your back to the bear or you're hunting and crouched down tagging your game. You generally get some notice and if they attack may only have chance for a couple, not well aimed shots.
                I'll bet if you tried hard enough you could kill a bull bison with 9mm. No one is saying that it is an appropriate round to use for that purpose though.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ahem, +p 9mm and +p+ 9mm?

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You 9mm gays have reached levels of delusion that shouldn’t be possible. It’s almost artistic how gay you are. Holy shit the onions and homosexualry from soft hands are unbelievable. Imagine looking for a nice handcannon and some onions homosexual no fun allowed cuck says muh 9mm. Truly you ‘people’ deserve to be flayed alive.
    This is like asking for a race car and you gays suggesting a toyota corolla.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >This is like asking for a race car and you gays suggesting a toyota corolla.
      You can get from A to B just fine with the toyota, while being more efficient and practical.
      Nice analogy, moron.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're a dumb American shitting on 9mm for no factual reason. You can carry 17 9mm with as much ease as 6 .357 and fire them much quicker. What wins fights is plenty of bullets that are deadly enough, leave the golden bullet to snipers and hunters.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        See

        No it isn't homosexual. Good 9mm self defense loads won't drop a junkie right away depending on shot placement. Sure, he might be fatally wounded but he doesn't know it yet and is still dangerous. Now picture 800 lbs of pissed off bear with a skull and body designed to absorb blunt force and slashing trauma from other pissed off bears with 3-4 inch claws bearing down on you. No guarantee that your hollow point penetrates the skull and no guarantee it hits a vital organ. Even if it does fatally wound the bear, there's a good chance that it closes distance and mauls you before it dies. Have you heard of the Ruger Alaskan? It's a short barrel .44 Mag for a reason, it's maneuverable and powerful. If you're going the .357 route then I would say you probably don't want anything shorter than 4 inches.
        Fricking 9mm gays make me want to sell my 9mm pistol and ammo so I can't be associated with you.

        9mm will not stop a bear in a way that counts. A 44 Mag will drop it. Those frickers move fast, you're most likely not going to get 17 shots on target before it's on you. If it's not really dedicated then you can probably fire in its direction to scare it away but it is not a sufficient defense round in bear country. But please, go carry your Glock 17 in bear country during mating season. Make sure to live stream it so we can all watch the aftermath.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes carry larger heavier gun for no reason.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    5.7×28mm naturally, what if the bear is wearing armor?

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sidearm
    Bear meta is a pump 12 gauge loaded with slugs. It's what all the chugs in Alaska use. Big Bore revolvers are boomers showing off.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on 45 Super on a bear?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just go up to 460 Rowland at that point.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get a ruger redhawk 8shot .357
    .357 loaded hot or buffalo bore dabs on 10mm all day. Most 10mm is .40 levels anyways.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd probably get a 10mm or a .357/44 mag revolver. the 10mm P320 looks pretty cool

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything that penetrates well including some 9mm loads is perfectly fine for bears.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    12 gauge, 1oz hard cast slugs
    Handguns aren’t going to reliably dispatch a 1,000 pound bear. If you absolutely insist on a handgun get a super red hawk Alaskan in 454 or 480 Ruger.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here we see the super autistic American moron in the wild. He thinks if you're a white person actually doing a job you should be carrying a long arm at the ready all of the time.

      Actually you'd magdump your pistol before you get a single shot from your wigger shotgun if you're busy doing a task and suddenly bear.

      You fricking Americans should try to use the minimum gun necessary not maximum. You would be a much healthier and aliver society then.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        STFU moron I'll have you know my AT4 does just fine against bears and it's easy to carry

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Forest service and other officials literally carry and ventilate polar bears and brown bears with 12ga, a rifle, and rarest of all a handgun. If you're fricking around in the wilderness in brown bear and moose country without a long arm you're the moron. You don't even need a magnum rifle, a simple .308 win with 160gr+ at 2500fps + is enough to down a charging brown, so is a 1oz foster slug from a 12ga point blank.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your American moron tier education shows by your lack of reading comprehension. Try going to a safe, gun-free country so your children learn actually something other than active shooter drills.

          Since OP is actually working for a living instead of being a welfare wigger like you, he can't keep a long arm at the ready so why the frick are you posting examples of people who can keep long arms at the ready?

          And if then you're fumbling for your shotgun, you'll be bear food even though I guess being an American fatass gives you chances of the bear being disgusted with you and run away from the smell.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You'll end up like the moron in montana that got his face ripped off after mag dumping a brown with a 44mag. North American game will frick you up if you're a moron.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh wow, Russian scum.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      +1 to this… but not for any logical reason, just because 454 casull out of an Alaskan is fun as hell as long as you don’t have weak wrists..

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I might be moving to Kodiak, Alaska
    dan wesson kodiak it's right in the name

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This
    https://dackoutdoors.com/product/jxp-10mm-black-101-5.2-tb

    Use the money you save to buy extra mags and ammo

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isnt shooting in the air enough to scare them?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deagle brand Deagle chambered in 50 Alaskan Eliminator

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Anyone got any recommendations for handguns I can carry that will do the job without being insanely unwieldy and annoying to carry around all day?
    Why not carry a 12 gauge double barrel or a scout rifle with heavy bullet .308 ammo? We have 197 grain factory loads in shops.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    12 gauge cylinder bore slugs or some of the crazy exotic slugs like the tenderizer or brass pellet if you can find them.

    if you're dead set on hand gun open carry a 44 magnum or .50 AE. But seriously a short 12 gauge like pic related with a slug or 00 buckshot will do the job. You want a stopping rifle like they used to use in Africa to shoot rhinos. Big bore shotgun with a rifled slug out of a short cylinder bore barrel. The state of WV did some research project where they determined in nearly every case where a firearm was discharged, whether it hit the bear or was a warning shot, the bear ran away almost every single time. But I would rather not be the exception. 1 oz 12 gauge slug to the dome. Even a bear isn't fricking with that.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a terrible idea, because after months or years of never seeing an angry bear on the job, anon will stuff the stupid, bulky thing, that is always in the way and has never been useful before, into the truck, where it will then become absolutely worthless in the event of a bear attack because anon wont have it with them.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        why wouldn't he have it with him?

        >yeah but thats such a big handgun he'll leave it at home and not carry it!

        just take it with you moron

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uncle was a cop North of Anchorage.
    He carried two guns when he could, his dept issued 9mm glock, and (no joke) a desert eagle in 44mag.
    He said he had a 50 conversion barrel and slide for it but the ammo was hard to come by so he stuck with 44 because it was everywhere up there.
    This was like 15 years ago though so maybe 50 is more accessible, and now you've got 10mm as a popular contender too.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    pet Tiger

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know a guy who carries a .17 HMR revolver as his bear gun. His logic is that speed and penetration is better than total energy because you're more likely to hit something important if you're punching all the way through. I think he's nuts but it's still interesting nonetheless.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      .17 HM2 gets like 9" in bare gel out of a rifle. A 20gr bullet does not have enough momentum to achieve adequate penetration in large game. Your friend is a moron who has managed to find one of very few wrong answers to this question.

  31. 11 months ago
    Sage

    Something in 10mm, .357 (spicy loads), .44
    Basically your big bore stuff

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    All of you are moronic
    >Steal grizzly cub from the zoo
    >Hand raise them through the years, feed them a steady diet of red meat, fish, honey, picnic baskets, effeminate hikers, and protein powder for maximum bear gains
    >Engage in bonding excercises and play fights with the bear to establish dominance and comradery
    >Replace their canines with titanium coated variants and sharpen their claws for maximum rip and tear
    >Sew together a coat made from kevlar and titanium plates for the bear to wear
    >Bear is now bulletproof, stabproof, deadlier than any other bear and totally loyal to you
    >Walk forth into the wild with your bear companion free from fear of attack from any mortal beast
    >But carry a big iron loaded with ash and silver impregnated bullets anyway, just in case of skinwalkers

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sometimes, when I see things like this, I almost think Russians are human

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    10mm glock
    hardcast lead or monolithic bronze
    better to buy one before going to AK, they dont stay on store shelves very long there

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    44 Magnum is the most practical because bigger than that saddles you with learning to manage ludicrous recoil. Practice with some heavy(300gr) WFN Cast bullets.
    Remember PRACTICE.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    EAA Witness 10mm.

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder: Any round will KILL a bear, but while the bear is dying, it is still angry, and WILL kill you too. You want a round that will STOP the bear cold in one shot. The bigger, the better. Don't gamble your safety on a meme like "shot placement". Get a revolver that cannot malfunction chambered in a cartridge that will blown the beast in half with one shot.

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Beretta Jetfire.

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