1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ants and minners all day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon why do you want to killer miners?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Some high end air rifles can get muzzle energy exceeding a 22lr., but those are firing 1,500ish feet per second. Your standard 400fps BB gun isn't killing anything bigger than a chipmunk.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Some high end air rifles can get muzzle energy exceeding a 22lr
      no way

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        AEA Challenger Bullpup BigBore is a one of the best examples. Using pressurized air, its 45 and 50cal variant achieve 600 joules of muzzle energy, (more or less the energy of a 9x19mm round). However with these super powerful airguns one problem becomes very apparent: you have very high air consumption and thus only get 4 or 5 shots. unlike weaker ones, where one tank can last you much longer.
        having exchangeable replacement canisters, and using a compressor or a large air bottle to refill them are basically mandatory at that point. Hand pumps do exist, but they produce maybe 5 joules worth of pressure per pump. And the more full a canister becomes, the more difficult pumping gets.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a compressor
          the most expensive part of owning an air rifle

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Break barrels can hit 25-30 joule.
          PCP airguns up to 1000 joule and beyond.

          A breakbarrel gamo jungle magnum has around 45 J of energy. Not really 22 Lr power but it is probably technicaly possible to kill someone with it. A 22 lr peestol has about 70 J. A rifle has a 100+. However there are Pcp guns thet can get a 22 pellet at 70+( 70 J, 100 J , 500 J 1000J ecc.) As far as break barrels go there is a garden gnometube video of a guy killing a little boar with a gamo magnum breakbarrel with a headshot

          I was writing on the move so sorry. I was wrong . 22 pelets at 70 ish J, bigger pelets at higher energies up to 1000J+

          22lr is like 170J

          What in the fuck is with all the noguns eurotrash.
          And the worst part is I came in here to say all this, to defend airguns and such, but using Hasguns units, not Fagogarden gnomels.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not a nogunz {pic related, no i am not shoving eveything }but I am eurotrash , I would like something like the second amendment but i do not have it and the position is very very unpopular in my cuntry, .
            Onto my point
            Just like it is easyer for YOU to understand " foot grains of freedom pints" (btw americunts and britbongs have different pints) It is much easier for ME to understand kilogram-meters per infringement seconds2 . Try using your brain and a little bit of internet : google "70 joules is how many ftlbs" and google will calculate for you most of the time.
            > 100 ftlbs of energy = 135 ish Joules, 100 J =73.7 ish ftlbs,
            > 100 ft/s = 30 ish m/s , 100 m/s = 325ish ft/s
            >1 gram = 15 ish grains. Definitive precise measurments are IMO unneccesary due to variations in ammo and barrellenght
            Also hasguns (imperial) measurements are often used to describe firearms because America is the biggest firearms market (although my ammo boxes have stickers on them translating imperial to metric so i dont have to do so myself and the sideefect of that is that it reinforces the use of metric for me) .
            Why are airguns described in metric?
            - they are relatively accesible almost anywhere not completely and utterly cucked and are not terribly popular in Burgerland (compared to 22 lr rifles atleast) and most of the world uses metric so most airguns are described in metric although it probably is translated to imperial on american shops And websites. There , an explenation on why there are many eurotrash here and why we use the metric system to describe shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You either underestimate airgun power or overstate capabilities of .22LR, but yes they exist and COST A LOT.

        >Verification not required.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          nah, i have no problem believing it, i just wanted people to respond with the relevant examples

          if you just type "can you name them" nobody gives a shit but people love correcting others

          have a good day

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Smartest PrepHole poster

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Break barrels can hit 25-30 joule.
        PCP airguns up to 1000 joule and beyond.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          22lr is like 170J

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/d4vCP3T.jpg

        Can it kill?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A breakbarrel gamo jungle magnum has around 45 J of energy. Not really 22 Lr power but it is probably technicaly possible to kill someone with it. A 22 lr peestol has about 70 J. A rifle has a 100+. However there are Pcp guns thet can get a 22 pellet at 70+( 70 J, 100 J , 500 J 1000J ecc.) As far as break barrels go there is a garden gnometube video of a guy killing a little boar with a gamo magnum breakbarrel with a headshot

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was writing on the move so sorry. I was wrong . 22 pelets at 70 ish J, bigger pelets at higher energies up to 1000J+

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Some high end air rifles can get muzzle energy exceeding a 22lr., but those are firing 1,500ish feet per second. Your standard 400fps BB gun isn't killing anything bigger than a chipmunk.

        Many air rifles of higher caliber match or exceed pistol ammo of similar caliber. Example any .357 air rifle that shoots super sonic matches .357 magnum, .22 cal run-of-the-mill PCP air rifle far out performes 22lr, .30 cal air rifles far out performe 32acp (idk about 30.tokarev and 30SP).

        Generally, the larger the bore, the better it performes up to about .38, where the amounts of air needed at high pressure makes it hard and expensive (in equipment) to accelerate pellets at high enough velocity to be accurate at range. The low BC of high caliber pellets makes it disproportionately more inefficient to shoot than smaller bore.

        If you want an air rifle for home defense or no kill anything larger than a rabbit, I would suggest .30 caliber, as it is gaining popularity, has semi auto rifles at reasonable prices and maintains good accuracy and efficiency. Or 357 caliber air rifles, as they are more effective at close range, but generally are larger, heavier and less supported.

        But don't expect to be accurate at medium ranges (75meters plus), as they are just glorified cold PCCs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pellets are ~5 times lighter than a 22lr

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you bash someone's head in with it it will kill

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, but the air pump pellet guns can. I like the small .144 for plinking inside.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. There's been a few story's in the news over the years of people being killed by air rifles and pistols, and one where a man committed suicide using a 12ftlb air rifle by shooting himself in the head.
    The legal power limit in the UK (before you need a loicense) is 12ftlb, typically that means around 800fps in .177 cal. More than enough to kill. That pump air rifle can probably put out around 10ftlb, so yeah.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The agency said 16 models of Daisy's PowerLine 856 and 880 BB guns are believed to be responsible for 28 deaths and 210 serious injuries since 1972
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1628533.stm
    It's possible to kill squirrel or crow with them. Then again, I've seen cats and squirrels take shots almost point blank and not even budge.*
    * ~13 y/o me trying to get stray out of house, doors and windows were open, that moron would not move. I don't endorse random violence on small animals.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It can certainly kill, it is just less of a gun and more of a weapon you have to get up close and personal with. There are stories of people being killed here (in the US) by criminals with even those crappy little air pistols. I'm not sure exactly how they've done it but my guess is a few good shots into the eye to the brain would kill.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Q guy in britbongia managed to kill himself with an airpistol to the temple so they started regulating them there. Also a 2 kids got shot and died to airguns. Those 3 cases were used to justify airgun regulation but then again not suprising considering they at one point tried to regulate knives

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can shoot someone's eye out

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let’s say theoretically you create flechette rounds out of paper clips, what about then?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Retarded drug addicts kill other druggies about once a year with those here, since real guns are regulated. I don't know how they manage to die, I suppose a lot of people get shot with those and some are unlucky enough for the pellet to pass the ribs into the heart or something. Some of the higher end ones probably have joules approaching a 22 short

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you eat enough i guess

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    With 10 luck, better criticals, and aimed eye shots you can one-shot death claws and enclave troopers

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    High end spring air rifles are a thing of beauty

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Agreed. The self-contained nature of them just adds to the package. Is that a Diana 350 Magnum?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Diana 280 .177cal, lovely 12ftlb rifle that's pretty rare here in North America.

        Nice R9/HW95, what caliber is she?
        I'm looking for an HW97k next if I can find one, Weihrauch makes top shelf springers.

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