No artillery. Literally ambushes from uncoordinated ukrainian units going around acting in their own. Thats why PrepHole love the first days of the war, they were fucking crazy, some civilians even went out of their houses, took an atgm/ak and joined the fun for free.
Imagine the life of the clerk of that convenience store that's the last commercial thing before Chernobyl. I bet he was mad when his daughter was gang raped.
Well, you are right. Not atgms, but you literally can learn how to use a RPG and even a NLAW in 10 minutes. There was an interview of some bartender using one in that classic ambush video of a russian armored convoy.
There's documented cases of Ukrainian forces receiving their first look at Javelins and Stingers when they were issued them on Feb 24th and looking up youtube videos about how to fire them.
And them using them to successfully engage targets.
majority were reservists, anon. you don't just learn how to fire an ATGM from 0 experience. TDF is basically ukraine's system of reservists
>A Ukrainian Commander, Major Dmytro Zaretsky, was ordered first to liberate the city of Bucha (where Russian atrocities against civilians was well documented) and then to liberate the city of Irpin[10]. He had never been in the city and was not issued any maps. He was innovative, so he used Google Maps to develop a hasty plan as the Russians advanced. Furthermore, he was issued weapons systems his soldiers had never trained on such as Stinger, NLAW anti-tank, and Javelin anti-tank missiles. His soldiers used YouTube in the middle of the battle and learned to use those systems. The first Stinger launched took down a Russian helicopter. They took down six more. Javelins started taking out armored troop carriers (BTMs) and T-72 tanks about one kilometer outside of Moschun.
There's documented cases of Ukrainian forces receiving their first look at Javelins and Stingers when they were issued them on Feb 24th and looking up youtube videos about how to fire them.
And them using them to successfully engage targets.
for some reason i fucking doubt this, hard
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Javelin and Stinger are -very- easy to use anon.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Instead of being retarded you could've looked up how to do it yourself
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
AT weapons usually even have instructions on the side
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Civilians taking up arms and fighting in defence of the country isn't exactly uncommon, its happened in conflicts all over history.
MANPADs and AT weapons as designed to be easy as fuck to use, and when the Russian tactic was 'drive though town in a column' its not hard for TDF units to ambush them.
>TDF is basically ukraine's system of reservists
Bs, my classmate who used to smoke weed for few decades and do nothing walked into recruitment office, got AK and then they simply drove to Kharkiv border. Anyone could get into it with enough persuasion or depending on region.
It originally supposed to trained for at least month men, but zeletard installed traitors with russian citizenships, who sabotaged entire process. 90+% were trained at some point though, but its not because of zelensky office as they try to paint, all military age males could (many didnt know they can simply refuse) join military excercises for 1-2 months with desired specialization since 2017.
That was the whole point of pidorussian fuck up. Attack on Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernigiv with mass civilian murders made it personal for millions. If he did attack Dombabwe regions, nobody would give a shit. Not even mentioning how little people cared about crimea, besides actual crimeans.
>Bs, my classmate who used to smoke weed for few decades and do nothing walked into recruitment office, got AK and then they simply drove to Kharkiv border. Anyone could get into it with enough persuasion or depending on region. >It originally supposed to trained for at least month men, but zeletard installed traitors with russian citizenships, who sabotaged entire process. 90+% were trained at some point though, but its not because of zelensky office as they try to paint, all military age males could (many didnt know they can simply refuse) join military excercises for 1-2 months with desired specialization since 2017. >That was the whole point of pidorussian fuck up. Attack on Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernigiv with mass civilian murders made it personal for millions. If he did attack Dombabwe regions, nobody would give a shit. Not even mentioning how little people cared about crimea, besides actual crimeans.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Citation on what, retard? How they changed head of TDF month before invasion, so he couldnt even deploy anything? How zelenskiy assured germanoids for months that there will be no war, so he got 5000 helmets in first 5 months of 2022? Or that russian citizens on high ranking positions in secret service, who he was warned about dozens of times, sabotaged Kherson defence and then mysteriously appeared in Serbia or russia? Or maybe literal FSB agents in president administration, that he manually installed, despite their ban to work for state in 2014 and attempts of journalists to remove them for ties with kremlin (who to this day is closest inner circle of zelemafia)?
The only reasion he did not fly to US on day one, because it would mean him being FSB plant, since he (as his team) did absolutely everything in 2019-2021 to undermine our defences and weapon production (its amusing how he blames wect for not supplying us with shells, while they oredered ZERO shells during his presidency). He is a retarded who did worst in pre-war period and now tries to do his best in post-invasion.
Also, US helped us with 2 millions of shells by now, without it we would ran out in March 2022.
>Digits of the beeeeaaaasssst!
I remember seeing a picture of a 50 year old mother with three kids who bought an AR with a scope and silencer, then took a two week training camp to learn how to use it before the initial invasion, so she could smoke VDV from her apartment window when the time came.
I looked her up after 9 months and after Kyiv got taken back she joined up, was issued an AK, and became a sergeant, now fucking shit up on the front in Kharkiv.
I think a quote was something like "I can kill a Russian now and feel nothing but joy."
Imagine reading the paper and hearing that quote from your grandma.
Shit is metal.
God how is it that we live in an era with mass communication and imaging more readily available than ever, and yet the propaganda is even harder to sift through?
If you question the accuracy of this horseshit story, PrepHole will call you a zigger, and if you question millions of Ukrainian deaths in the bakhmut meat grinder 4chan will call you a hohol
Jan 2022:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10440853/Ukrainian-mother-52-arms-huge-rifle-amid-threat-Russian-invasion.html
October 2022 (sorry for insufferable Sun article, only one I could find not behind a paywall):
https://www.the-sun.com/news/6506358/sniper-mum-ukraine-frontline-vladimir-putin/ >"Mariana told The Sun Online “it’s not hard for me” to kill Russians, who she calls Orcs, the term Ukrainians use to describe their foes."
God how is it that we live in an era with mass communication and imaging more readily available than ever, and yet the propaganda is even harder to sift through?
If you question the accuracy of this horseshit story, PrepHole will call you a zigger, and if you question millions of Ukrainian deaths in the bakhmut meat grinder 4chan will call you a hohol
I saw that same story before the invasion, there were pics of the gal with a rifle in her kitchen and everything, so if it was propaganda it's very well thought out propaganda.
Becaise the Ukrainian side is more believable and at least somewhat verified. "Muh both sides" and cynicism of all sources is actually the desired endstate of Russian propaganda.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Come on man, I'm completely neutral in this conflict, but I'm not gonna put any weight in the side that brought us the Ghost of Kiev or the magical drone sniping monke shooting babushkas either. Russia minmaxxing reports of combat losses is SOP but the Ukrainian propaganda machine is beyond the pale
I saw that same story before the invasion, there were pics of the gal with a rifle in her kitchen and everything, so if it was propaganda it's very well thought out propaganda.
I remember seeing that too but why does that have to be thought out? There were a million stories hyping up the fighting spirit of Ukrainian civilians before the invasion. Remember all the Twitter posts of the female brigades and stuff? It was everywhere
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>neutral in this conflict
Good one.
Provide examples.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Oh. My. God.
He is STILL nursing 4th degree asspain from the Ghost of Kyiv.
(You) will never be a real man, Pidorashka.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You also tend to actually watch footage of whatever the ukrainian side claims and territory being taken when they claim so.
after that it was the nLaw/Javelin
then the Bayraktar, then the Himars, then the Drones, then the Pontoon, then the Blitzkrieg, etc etc
The amount of dead Russians in 1 year time, it's never been seen before since WWII
See those trenches dug at the intersection?
They just lit the BMDs up with PKM fire, molotovs and a few AT weapons at close range. BMDs have paper thin aluminium armor and Russians usually ride on top anyway
Up until I saw the footage of the aftermath of those VDV guys getting merc'd outside of Hostomel in an ambush, I had dismissed nearly all talk of the Russians taking heavy losses as propaganda. That was when it really started to settle in for me that we were going to have an actual war and not a silly little police action.
You have no idea what you're talking about and know nothing about just how easy stingers and javelins are *designed* to be.
God how is it that we live in an era with mass communication and imaging more readily available than ever, and yet the propaganda is even harder to sift through?
If you question the accuracy of this horseshit story, PrepHole will call you a zigger, and if you question millions of Ukrainian deaths in the bakhmut meat grinder 4chan will call you a hohol
You absolutely retarded 4chanmoron that broad was covered months before the war and then was followed up after the Kiev fiasco. I swear you fuckers have no idea how embarrassing your shit is.
>Imagine if Russia had won
It's not easy if you try
Comfy VDV
>Muh Civies
I wonder if this guy surrendered and they went through his phone to see the post.
(Donbass montage)
There were some kino photos from that engagement
what killed the guys in these pics? was it a direct firefight? artillery? combination of both?
No artillery. Literally ambushes from uncoordinated ukrainian units going around acting in their own. Thats why PrepHole love the first days of the war, they were fucking crazy, some civilians even went out of their houses, took an atgm/ak and joined the fun for free.
it was very much a Ukrainian Red Dawn.
Imagine the life of the clerk of that convenience store that's the last commercial thing before Chernobyl. I bet he was mad when his daughter was gang raped.
majority were reservists, anon. you don't just learn how to fire an ATGM from 0 experience. TDF is basically ukraine's system of reservists
Well, you are right. Not atgms, but you literally can learn how to use a RPG and even a NLAW in 10 minutes. There was an interview of some bartender using one in that classic ambush video of a russian armored convoy.
There's documented cases of Ukrainian forces receiving their first look at Javelins and Stingers when they were issued them on Feb 24th and looking up youtube videos about how to fire them.
And them using them to successfully engage targets.
>A Ukrainian Commander, Major Dmytro Zaretsky, was ordered first to liberate the city of Bucha (where Russian atrocities against civilians was well documented) and then to liberate the city of Irpin[10]. He had never been in the city and was not issued any maps. He was innovative, so he used Google Maps to develop a hasty plan as the Russians advanced. Furthermore, he was issued weapons systems his soldiers had never trained on such as Stinger, NLAW anti-tank, and Javelin anti-tank missiles. His soldiers used YouTube in the middle of the battle and learned to use those systems. The first Stinger launched took down a Russian helicopter. They took down six more. Javelins started taking out armored troop carriers (BTMs) and T-72 tanks about one kilometer outside of Moschun.
https://www.thayerleadership.com/blog/2022/the-untold-story-of-the-battle-for-kyiv
for some reason i fucking doubt this, hard
Javelin and Stinger are -very- easy to use anon.
Instead of being retarded you could've looked up how to do it yourself
AT weapons usually even have instructions on the side
Civilians taking up arms and fighting in defence of the country isn't exactly uncommon, its happened in conflicts all over history.
MANPADs and AT weapons as designed to be easy as fuck to use, and when the Russian tactic was 'drive though town in a column' its not hard for TDF units to ambush them.
retard rpgs were literally designed to be used by volkstrum forces.
the tdf was invented on feb 24th when zelenskyy gave away 10,000 ak47s in kyiv
>TDF is basically ukraine's system of reservists
Bs, my classmate who used to smoke weed for few decades and do nothing walked into recruitment office, got AK and then they simply drove to Kharkiv border. Anyone could get into it with enough persuasion or depending on region.
It originally supposed to trained for at least month men, but zeletard installed traitors with russian citizenships, who sabotaged entire process. 90+% were trained at some point though, but its not because of zelensky office as they try to paint, all military age males could (many didnt know they can simply refuse) join military excercises for 1-2 months with desired specialization since 2017.
That was the whole point of pidorussian fuck up. Attack on Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernigiv with mass civilian murders made it personal for millions. If he did attack Dombabwe regions, nobody would give a shit. Not even mentioning how little people cared about crimea, besides actual crimeans.
>Bs, my classmate who used to smoke weed for few decades and do nothing walked into recruitment office, got AK and then they simply drove to Kharkiv border. Anyone could get into it with enough persuasion or depending on region.
>It originally supposed to trained for at least month men, but zeletard installed traitors with russian citizenships, who sabotaged entire process. 90+% were trained at some point though, but its not because of zelensky office as they try to paint, all military age males could (many didnt know they can simply refuse) join military excercises for 1-2 months with desired specialization since 2017.
>That was the whole point of pidorussian fuck up. Attack on Kyiv, Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernigiv with mass civilian murders made it personal for millions. If he did attack Dombabwe regions, nobody would give a shit. Not even mentioning how little people cared about crimea, besides actual crimeans.
Citation on what, retard? How they changed head of TDF month before invasion, so he couldnt even deploy anything? How zelenskiy assured germanoids for months that there will be no war, so he got 5000 helmets in first 5 months of 2022? Or that russian citizens on high ranking positions in secret service, who he was warned about dozens of times, sabotaged Kherson defence and then mysteriously appeared in Serbia or russia? Or maybe literal FSB agents in president administration, that he manually installed, despite their ban to work for state in 2014 and attempts of journalists to remove them for ties with kremlin (who to this day is closest inner circle of zelemafia)?
The only reasion he did not fly to US on day one, because it would mean him being FSB plant, since he (as his team) did absolutely everything in 2019-2021 to undermine our defences and weapon production (its amusing how he blames wect for not supplying us with shells, while they oredered ZERO shells during his presidency). He is a retarded who did worst in pre-war period and now tries to do his best in post-invasion.
Also, US helped us with 2 millions of shells by now, without it we would ran out in March 2022.
tdf started establishment process just a month or two before the war begun, i don't think they even held a singular drill
>Digits of the beeeeaaaasssst!
I remember seeing a picture of a 50 year old mother with three kids who bought an AR with a scope and silencer, then took a two week training camp to learn how to use it before the initial invasion, so she could smoke VDV from her apartment window when the time came.
I looked her up after 9 months and after Kyiv got taken back she joined up, was issued an AK, and became a sergeant, now fucking shit up on the front in Kharkiv.
I think a quote was something like "I can kill a Russian now and feel nothing but joy."
Imagine reading the paper and hearing that quote from your grandma.
Shit is metal.
Pure propaganda
Jan 2022:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10440853/Ukrainian-mother-52-arms-huge-rifle-amid-threat-Russian-invasion.html
October 2022 (sorry for insufferable Sun article, only one I could find not behind a paywall):
https://www.the-sun.com/news/6506358/sniper-mum-ukraine-frontline-vladimir-putin/
>"Mariana told The Sun Online “it’s not hard for me” to kill Russians, who she calls Orcs, the term Ukrainians use to describe their foes."
God how is it that we live in an era with mass communication and imaging more readily available than ever, and yet the propaganda is even harder to sift through?
If you question the accuracy of this horseshit story, PrepHole will call you a zigger, and if you question millions of Ukrainian deaths in the bakhmut meat grinder 4chan will call you a hohol
I saw that same story before the invasion, there were pics of the gal with a rifle in her kitchen and everything, so if it was propaganda it's very well thought out propaganda.
Becaise the Ukrainian side is more believable and at least somewhat verified. "Muh both sides" and cynicism of all sources is actually the desired endstate of Russian propaganda.
Come on man, I'm completely neutral in this conflict, but I'm not gonna put any weight in the side that brought us the Ghost of Kiev or the magical drone sniping monke shooting babushkas either. Russia minmaxxing reports of combat losses is SOP but the Ukrainian propaganda machine is beyond the pale
I remember seeing that too but why does that have to be thought out? There were a million stories hyping up the fighting spirit of Ukrainian civilians before the invasion. Remember all the Twitter posts of the female brigades and stuff? It was everywhere
>neutral in this conflict
Good one.
Provide examples.
Oh. My. God.
He is STILL nursing 4th degree asspain from the Ghost of Kyiv.
(You) will never be a real man, Pidorashka.
You also tend to actually watch footage of whatever the ukrainian side claims and territory being taken when they claim so.
D-d-d-don't cry, gay. vatmoronstan will probably have to start conscripting its grandmothers to use as shrapnel sponges soon enough.
Then she got a bullet between her tits and everyone cheered
>triple digits
proofs it.
after that it was the nLaw/Javelin
then the Bayraktar, then the Himars, then the Drones, then the Pontoon, then the Blitzkrieg, etc etc
The amount of dead Russians in 1 year time, it's never been seen before since WWII
Nice digits.
Thanks, satan.
See those trenches dug at the intersection?
They just lit the BMDs up with PKM fire, molotovs and a few AT weapons at close range. BMDs have paper thin aluminium armor and Russians usually ride on top anyway
Up until I saw the footage of the aftermath of those VDV guys getting merc'd outside of Hostomel in an ambush, I had dismissed nearly all talk of the Russians taking heavy losses as propaganda. That was when it really started to settle in for me that we were going to have an actual war and not a silly little police action.
Do you realize the amount of people who still think they did?
you can believe anything if you just ignore reality. those people don't count.
It wouldn’t have mattered. As soon as Ukraine decided to resist in earnest pulling a fait acompli by taking the capital was impossible.
Russia did win. Hostomel was occupied.
>was
Still counts.
By your logic Germany lost basically every single battle of ww2
Thousands of defenders died for that, gay.
Show pictures of them then.
I'm sure Soloviev is very convincing lmao
You have no idea what you're talking about and know nothing about just how easy stingers and javelins are *designed* to be.
You absolutely retarded 4chanmoron that broad was covered months before the war and then was followed up after the Kiev fiasco. I swear you fuckers have no idea how embarrassing your shit is.
Imagine if Russia didn't send their VDV and marines to just die.
Great docu about the battle north west of Kiev:
It is unimaginable, you can't imagine russia possibly winning anything, anywhere, anytime.