Battle Magic and Tactics

You have 50 combat-capable wizards, roughly the same as the opposition. You can teleport anywhere around the British Isles, you can blend into the populace more or less, but you must keep your activities and your battles secret from the greater unaware non-magical population, for fear of drawing international backlash. You can use magic to travel, stun, injure, mind control, disarm, and yes, kill. The enemy has the same abilities and constraints, however.

What are your tactics? How would you organise your troops? How will you seek to defeat your opponents? Will you try for a long drawn-out campaign? Or gamble it all on a single battle? If so, when, where, how?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Considering creatures about as strong as dogs are able to contribute to wizard battles, I just hope I'm on the non human-hating side because then I can just hire a ton of human help and tip the odds in my favor.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >creatures about as strong as dogs are able to contribute
      what?
      >I can just hire a ton of human help
      not an option for either side; per Statute of Secrecy

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what?
        The spiders.

        >Statute of Secrecy
        Is this a war or isn't it? Both sides threw that shit straight out the window in every war in the series.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I buy some polyjuice potion and impersonate the Prime Minister of Britain.
    Then I have my 50 wizards use imperio on all the most important British politicians / generals and launch a covert assassination mission where all of my wizard opponents are targeted.
    You might be able to block a spell but good luck waving your wand quick enough to deflect a bullet.

    If there's any especially powerful wizards on the other side who do somehow manage to avoid assassination, we simply wait for them to fall asleep, set their house on fire and use magic to create an impenetrable barrier so they can't leave.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >use imperio on all the most important British politicians / generals
      Good thinking.
      The other side countered that in the books with bodyguards.
      >launch a covert assassination mission
      What with? You can't tell the British Army the wizards exist, and in the first place the Army can't target what they can't see, being made up of Muggles.
      >wait for them to fall asleep, set their house on fire
      IOW attack them while they're in bed. That's a thought.
      What would your organisational structure be like for such an attack? IE how many would you stack against a powerful wizard?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The other side countered that in the books with bodyguards.
        So we'll just imperio them too.
        >You can't tell the British Army the wizards exist
        It's a brand new terrorist cell, EZ.
        >the Army can't target what they can't see
        Of course they can.
        Every single magical concealment spell is based off of vision, like the invisibility cloak.
        There's no chance that the wizards who devised these spells 500 years ago considered infrared, heat, or wifi when thinking up ways to hide.
        Just point a FLIR camera at where you think the bad guys are and they'll light up light a christmas tree.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >is based off of vision
          The primary anti-nonmagic defence is actually suggestion spells.
          >infrared, heat, or wifi sensors
          Magic fricks electronics, that's why they're only afraid of Mark One Eyeball.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Magic fricks electronics
            Incorrect.
            Electronics don't work at Hogwarts because the grounds have been specifically charmed to prevent their usage, although it somehow does not apply to light fixtures, radios, or guitar amps.
            People have misunderstood this to mean that the mere presence of magic renders electronics useless, as though magic somehow naturally interrupts the flow of electrons only in manmade devices without disrupting the same biochemical processes found in the human body.

            And even if it did somehow render electronics useless, surely the range isn't infinite.
            If it was then not a single electronic device would work on the entire planet.
            Just stand far enough away and you'll be good.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >If it was then not a single electronic device would work on the entire planet.
              >Just stand far enough away and you'll be good
              They don't frick electronics to destroy them; the electronics just don't pick up magic or wizards.

              Otherwise, a simple mapping satellite would have picked up Hogwarts, the village, the Ministry of Magic, a dozen Quidditch stadiums, etc etc

              >what?
              The spiders.

              >Statute of Secrecy
              Is this a war or isn't it? Both sides threw that shit straight out the window in every war in the series.

              >Both sides threw that shit straight out the window
              Kinda yes kinda no
              The bad guys killed Muggles but they never announced themselves.
              Like serial killers who leave no note.
              Or blowing up a pipeline and never claiming credit.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the electronics just don't pick up magic or wizards
                Again, incorrect.
                Hermione is a witch yet her parents have photos of her on their mantle.
                And yes, those photos would count since the camera used to take them would have had electronic components.
                >a simple mapping satellite would have picked up Hogwarts, the village, the Ministry of Magic, a dozen Quidditch stadiums, etc etc
                Yes, and they absolutely would do that.
                The trick is that everything you just mentioned, Ministry notwithstanding, is placed far out in the boonies where nobody would ever think to look.
                Despite that, the whole HP story takes place in the 90s before mapping satellites had fully covered the entire planet.
                If the story had taken place 20 years in the future, regular people would absolutely be aware of everything happening.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Hermione is a witch yet her parents have photos of her
                Presumably, while not using her powers.
                All of those sites are covered with ongoing magical activity plus deception spells.
                >90s before mapping satellites
                The military had them.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Presumably, while not using her powers.
                Are you under the impression that wizards can just turn on their powers like x-men or something?
                It's like the ability to jump, you just have it.
                >The military had them.
                Yeah, and the government was well aware of wizards.
                Or did you forget that the Minister for Magic had to directly inform the Prime Minister of the threat posed by Voldemort?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wizards can just turn on their powers
                ...yeah?
                >the government was well aware of wizards
                correction: the PM of the day is informed of wizards' existence, and nobody else. they were even confident that even if he tried to expose them, he would be taken as a raving lunatic.

                anyway. let's assume that radar, CCTV etc are not functional.

                do hits that look like international drug gangs at war. how well does magic fare against IRA style bombings? hire gangs to do hits. use scumbags as cut outs and generally act like the CIA

                presumably you mean magical hits?

                if magic fricks tech, then drop a fuel air bomb on them.
                go crude as shit.

                the problem with bombing wizards is the "finding out their existence and locating them" part

                anyway, look, the focus here is on wizard vs wizard warfare, let's leave the Muggles out of it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >presumably you mean magical hits?
                regular hits work too. crackheads are extremely motivated when you offer them the biggest rock in history to smoke.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >anyway, look, the focus here is on wizard vs wizard warfare, let's leave the Muggles out of it.
                Every example we've seen of mass combat between wizards involves them trying to bolster their numbers with non-casting creatures or mercenaries.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Kinda yes kinda no
                >The bad guys killed Muggles but they never announced themselves.
                >Like serial killers who leave no note.
                >Or blowing up a pipeline and never claiming credit
                That's changing the issue, they broke secrecy, they just had no interest in a dialogue.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you put it that way, then yes. Theoretically, killing Muggles is not breaking the Statute of Secrecy. Revealing yourself to them, is.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            if magic fricks tech, then drop a fuel air bomb on them.
            go crude as shit.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    do hits that look like international drug gangs at war. how well does magic fare against IRA style bombings? hire gangs to do hits. use scumbags as cut outs and generally act like the CIA

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just use non-magical conventional & unconventional forces... which your wizards secretly "buff" with force multipliers like realtime scrying intel (scryntel?), enchanted full body armor, magical healing, teleportation of non-magical operators & gunbunnies into & out of situ unwitnessed (because sleep is cast upon the watchers -- yawn so tired).

    Occasional wizard assassination teams utilize a little bit of hocus pocus to get deeds done away from muggle eyes.

    Oh, and, of course, magic solves logistics, and logistics win wars, so just keep conjuring up trillions of dollars worth of expensive ammunition & hardware lmao (or at least the materials for non-human craftspersons to handmake into hipster tier boutique pseudoantique gear.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    IEDs. Just charm everything to explode. Charm bullets to pen everything. Sure they can block some spells but can them block 650 rpm of charmed bullets? Imperio the entire british parliament and all british military leaders to aid in hunting and killing down of all 50 of the enemy. Imperio elves and gobbos to track down and kill them. Imperio fricking everyone. Imperio a captured combatant to become a suicide bomber to bomb his compatriots with a charmed nuke stolen from the british. A nuclear warhead inside a small wallet with some extension charm shit.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Use all fifty wizards to summon an eldrich god so everyone loses.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look, all I’m saying is that you can have a bottomless bag full of AT4’s and LMG ammunition that weighs absolutely nothing.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just make a sabbath with 50 wizards to make the brits racially aware.

    Of course to perform a ritual we will Need to sacrifice a good looking virgin girl, but we already enstablished that magic things are real, wizards unicorns and hymens are real.

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