Based on official Ukrainian sources the IRIS-T has a 100% interception rate those days.

Based on official Ukrainian sources the IRIS-T has a 100% interception rate those days.

Did the Germans just casually build the greatest SAM of its range class?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Based on official Ukrainian sources the IRIS-T has a 100% interception rate those days.
    i don't think that's true, a few missiles got through each time the russians sperged out according even to ukrainian info
    44 out of 50 or more were shot down today

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That would be an argument if all sectors of their air spaces would be covered by IRIS-T, which is sadly not true.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That could just mean they fired more missiles than the IRIS-Ts in the area could handle, as in it hit all the ones it targeted but didnt have enough capacity to handle them all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ah yes the hyperdimensional German IRIS-T Battery
      Its in Odessa and kyiv all at once

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They know. Shut it down Hans.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      44 out of 50 is still an amazing result.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think what they mean is "every drone targeted and shot at by it was hit and destroyed". They just didn't manage to get a target lock on the remaining 6, probably because no IRIS-T was available there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some rockets got through because there aren't enough systems to cover all of Ukraine...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What is it shooting down? The Iranian scrap drones? One of those missiles costs 10x the price of the drone.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not all sectors are covered. Sadly these few missiles are also enough to do major damage to Ukraine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Infrastructure and civilian casualties are worth far less than military losses and usefully enrage the survivors.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >88% of the time it works every time

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukrainian sources

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the only people to ever use this system in combat say...
      HUH? WHERE'S THE INDEPENDENT FACT CHECKERS???

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >HUH? WHERE'S THE INDEPENDENT FACT CHECKERS???
        This. Unironically.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          alright so why are you here and not on twitter/reddit where the deboonkers hang out?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The independent fact checkers would probably be the ones with radar over half the country and satellite. You know, the same people that sell a competing product.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wow i was part of that thread

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It better be 100% effective, have you seen those prices?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is claiming IRIS-T is a failure, so it's safe to say this thing is game changer actually.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Videos have appeared of unsuccessful attempts by AFU AA to intercept Russian missiles, inflight to targets on the Ukraine. Two launches, two misses, they exploded in the sky. This is how the so-called wonder-weapon, IRIS-T, supplied by Germany to Kiev, works.

      They actually use the term wonderwaffle.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >they exploded in the sky
        russian media is clearly telling the truth, they just forgot to mention that the sekrit stealth cruise missiles happened to be in the exact same spot at the time of the explosion

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >videos have appeared

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/bOOc71W.jpg

      >Videos have appeared of unsuccessful attempts by AFU AA to intercept Russian missiles, inflight to targets on the Ukraine. Two launches, two misses, they exploded in the sky. This is how the so-called wonder-weapon, IRIS-T, supplied by Germany to Kiev, works.

      They actually use the term wonderwaffle.

      From a cost effective perspective, it's a failure.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Anon cruise missiles are expensive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        1 IRIS-T Missile costs around US$420k.

        Meanwhile, a russian Kalibr missile costs US$6.5 million. A Kh-101 missile costs US$13 million, and a Kh-555 missile costs US$7.5 million.

        IRIS-T is barely a blip on the radar in terms of costs against the missiles that Russia is losing to it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The IRIS-T is dirt cheap. The standard variant costs less than a Sidewinder and IRIS-T SLM goes for less than PAC-3.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >and IRIS-T SLM goes for less than PAC-3.

          Because PAC-3 is like 10x more agile and has anti ballistic capability. They have 180 rocket motors for insane maneuverability.

          CAMM also has side motors. IRIS-T has none of that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            kek

            We are getting a little desperate here.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You are desperate alright.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The fact that he needs to insert the CAMM into a thread about IRIS-T SLM should tell you everything.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's a thread about every SAM system in the world, and so far the claim that IRIS-T is the best has been laughed out of the room.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Did the Germans just casually build the greatest SAM of its range class?

                Fuck off already. NASAMS is in the same camp as IRIS-T they are simply not as good as Patriot, CAMM or Iron Dome. They are good systems but they can't compare with missiles made specifically for SAM role.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                based German engineering - triggering Pollacks nonstop

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Actually, that was me, idiot
                Because I like cutting-edge NATO SAMs
                You mad?

                kek

                We are getting a little desperate here.

                Get new material

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                When will CAMM prove its worth in Ukraine?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why not just use thrust vectoring, that amount of rocket motors seems autistic and overcomplicated.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Those are mach5 missiles. You don't want thrust vectoring at those speeds. Also side motors are just better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I NEED PIC RELATED UPDATED

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Haven't Ukrainians already used up all missiles? How long does it take to produce new ones?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I remember when Germany announced they would deliver IRIS-T SLM that this isn't what Ukraine needs.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Did the Germans just casually build the greatest SAM of its range class?
    Not really the greatest SAM, just the greatest IR missile. Putting it on a booster doesn't significantly change its performance.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Did the Germans just casually build the greatest SAM of its range class?
    germans don't do anything accidentally

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They accidentally six million.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Seeing as it's being used against Russia and not a real military, it might be completely Middle kf the road or even lower tier for western air defense and we would never know. Remember Ukraine is not teaching lessons about western near peer conflicts.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don’t believe the Ukrainians. They’ve also claimed to have downed aircraft and a missile with fin-92 stingers, but the stinger has never intercepted an aircraft in history

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >never intercepted an aircraft in history
      First kill in 1982, fucko

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >inbefore "BUT NO VIDEO EVIDENCE"
        I am calling it
        also that is definitely bait dude

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Source? I have seen hundreds of piorun, IGLA, even Starstreak videos but never a stinger

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The fucking British SAS say so, you take it up with them
          >hundreds
          lol
          lmao even

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >inbefore "BUT NO VIDEO EVIDENCE"
        I am calling it
        also that is definitely bait dude

        Need you two in this thread

        [...]

        [...]

        [...]

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          thats false flag footage

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Explain what you mean by that

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              its a Ukrainian helicopter
              but Russians are pretending its Theirs to do a "No U" when you believe them
              Its a weird propaganda tactic they have been doing to "demoralize"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That’s a Russian helicopter though. Your reply is the false flag

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >it’s a ukranian helicopter
                Massive cope. Good thing they filmed it as it was taking off.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ukrainian, too lazy to remove the soviet markings. what used to be a helicopter is now an oven for delicious roast piggies hahaha

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The lengths these people go to to try and discredit the stinger are hilarious. Sorry Ivan you got caught

                https://i.imgur.com/WJ5Kqj4.jpg

                >it’s a ukranian helicopter
                Massive cope. Good thing they filmed it as it was taking off.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t you remember that insane conspiracy Armatard was peddling a few years ago, that every single FIM-92 kill in history (including those recognized by the Soviets) was falsified?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh look, this guy again, back to gaslight and muddy up the water around Armatard and his backstory. You’ve been doing this for years despite it not working, probably the same posters in addition to being an obnoxious anti-vatnik to falseflag.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Shut up, glowie screecher. You may not be Armatard, but you are as obnoxious and retarded.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              praise Germans once
              pretending to be Polacks immediately crawl out of their holes
              ftfy

              The fake anti-armatard [...] trying everything to make anti-armatards look stupid is also in the thread. Curious.

              >Armatard mad and trying everything to deflect

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, bit of a backstory:
                This guy

                https://i.imgur.com/pyZ8eNN.png

                [...]
                >Its the glowie screecher
                >Its ukranians praising germans
                >Its vatniks pretending to be polacks
                >it's the fake anti-Armatard
                Every time, the characteristic name calling spergout where Armatard tries everything to see which one will stick. Been done a million times and still only Armatard ends up being the one getting laughed at.
                >inb4 one of his bystander personas pop out of the woodwork

                is known as the glowie screecher, he's a bit of a retard, hates the West and PrepHole and got regulary confused for Armatard for being an equally retarded idiot and constantly defending Russia and Armatard's shitty little threads for hours for no reason.
                Why is he called glowie screecher? Because he thinks everyone objecting his bullshit must be a government shill from the West.
                Why is he pretending to be an anti-armatard? Because he hates anti-armatards and PrepHole and will try everything to make both look bad.
                He constntly falseflags, shills, lies, samefags, complains about stuff he does and fakes, copy your whole post or parts of it to use it in an unfitting situation trying to make you look stupid, he usually gets so mad, he starts posting this kind of shit over multiple days, etc
                Wouldn't be surprised if he's faking being germans and poles in these threads.

                If i'm Armatard, than i'm a donkey sucking chud.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Armatard is back at his old tactic of writing word salad / gibberish in an effort to make people ignore the posts calling him out or ruining his threads. Posts like this sometimes he copies through google translate, other times he writes them by hand, but the goal is the same, get regular anons to think any of the posts chronicling his antics or calling out his spam threads are the same kind of nonsense, at first glance. If you give him an audience, he will drone on for hours about all these characters.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/rSQwwWG.jpg

                [...]
                >less than minute between the posts
                The armatard / glowie screecher is having at least two devices in the thread, at least.

                What's up, glowie screecher, mad you can't suck off armatard or his retarded threads? Doing a bit of cheeky false flagging and shitposting out of spite?
                Gee, i wonder why there is no sane person defending Armatard, why is it only equally retarded shills and schizos?

                Fucking imagine beliving Armatard must been made up and western government agents are behind it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The vatnik accuses other people of doing exactly what he does himself, with zero shame
                Nice little attempt at promoting your brand, Armamoron. Maybe if you were less of a bumbling and oblivious ESL clown, someone would think you could be from the government.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                t. [...], [...]
                You must think it was so subtle and clever to mix in Armatard's post while you quoted the anti-Armatards and then false flagged about it. Watching vatniks like you try to be clever is like the mental gymnastics special olympics.

                Oh, glowie screecher, what makes you think it will work now?
                You can moan and bitch all you want, you can false flag or make yet another threads about how much you dislike PrepHole and how government agents are behind every second post. But ultimately you don't hate armatard, the only thing making you actually furious are PrepHole and anti-armatards.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Armatard you are the only one in the thread ranting about government agents. Still hoping for the day a Ukrainian quadcopter makes your delusions of being hunted by bots come true. But your sorry ass is probably safely in one of the western countries you complain about, but we can still hope.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Armatard you are the only one in the thread ranting about government agents.
                Liar, i was not ranting about government agents, i was ranting about people ranting about western government agents on PrepHole.

                It doesn't work, glowie screecher. Calling me armatard, doesn't work, i can shit on armatard and his stupid threads with a smile on my face, while you have to be forced to actually say something bad about him, it's fucking hilarious. Never gets fucking old.

                So, we both agree that armatard needs to be culled, he's some hypocrite living the comfy life in the West and he's doing nothing but shilling his silly Russia all day long? Defending armatard's threads is fucking stupid, falseflagging as his enemies in an attempt to defend his shilling is equally stupid? Because that's what i think.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >still answering to his name
                >still writing walls of text and repeating himself exactly like Armatard would
                Wow there’s no way this could possibly be Armatard! You pulled a quick one on everyone mate (no not like your mom did at the bar in Poland)…

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Glowie screecher, you truly never learn, exactly like the retard armatard you try to help so much. I know you want to make it look a bit like you are trolling, but what you are doing is actually just the shilling of another schizo, who got mad that armatard can't shit up the board and flood it with his stupid threads and posts.
                PrepHole buck broke you, like PrepHole buck broke armatard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Stupid Armatard, still trying to apply a nickname to his abusers, but it never works. At least this time he didn’t make it end in -tard or -nik like his usual uncreative dweebery. Stupid moron can’t realize his nickname only sticks because people can look at the autistic ESL Slav monkey spamming this shit day after day and realize who it is.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                can you fill me in on why armatard is called armatard? I never figured that one out

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He started off shilling the Armata tank nonstop, literally 10 or more identical threads a day. Later he evolved to shilling anything related to the Russian military. When one of the original SU-57s crashed, he responded by pretending to be a crazy Russia hater (it’s been that long), and has been doing similar shit ever since.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                forgot pic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Glowie screecher, it doesn't work. You are strugging to even say a bit of negative shit about armatard or how shity his threads are. It's always so forced and superficial. Armatard is pretty schizo and retarded, but you are not much different, no wonder you are trying to help him or have equally deranged opinions.

                can you fill me in on why armatard is called armatard? I never figured that one out

                Armatard is short for Armata retards, Armata retards were vatnik shills who were going crazy over the russian T-14 Armata tank, but then PrepHole found out how most of their posts were all done by one guy who shilled Russia and the Soviet Union like it was his job, so everyone just gave him the name of the whole group of retards.
                You got to be careful, there is this idiot who goes around and tries to gaslight bullshit around the whole armatard thing. Related:

                He started off shilling the Armata tank nonstop, literally 10 or more identical threads a day. Later he evolved to shilling anything related to the Russian military. When one of the original SU-57s crashed, he responded by pretending to be a crazy Russia hater (it’s been that long), and has been doing similar shit ever since.

                https://i.imgur.com/aKhVfs8.jpg

                forgot pic

                This is extremly misleading, Armatard hasn't been going around pretending to be a Russia hater on a regular basis, he only did it when he had the breakdown when the Su-57 crashed and some other rare occasions. He does stupid shit though, like pretending to be his enemies in the most obnoxious way and later complain about it. Or pretending to be a concerned american citizen only to shit on America. Or pretend to be chinese or korean and then whine about the West while not saying a bad word about Russia.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Armatard hasn't been going around pretending to be a Russia hater on a regular basis
                Lmao, Armatard, denying it doesn’t work when that’s exactly what you’re doing in this very thread, braindead lying vatnik. Now it looks like you’re desperately spamming in hopes the mods delete this thread so you can save face.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh please, glowie screecher, calling everyone Armatard out of spite and making up bullshit may work on idiots and confused newbies, but otherwise it's just showing what a desperate gay you are and in the end you'll get confused with Armatard as always in the next thread, because you are as stupid and retarded as him.

                You know what? I'm gonna give context to the picture in

                https://i.imgur.com/aKhVfs8.jpg

                forgot pic

                so people understand what's going on and let's be honest it's pretty hilarious:
                For years Armatard has shilled the Su-57 and at the same time nitpicked about about other planes (preferably from the West, never about russian planes) at every opportunity. No "news" was irrelevant enough for Armatard to make threads about it. There is a new picture of the Su-57? He made a thread with it. Some fake news site said something negative about a western jet on basis of hearsay? He made a thread about it. Who am i trying to fool? Often enough he made multiple over the same thing. Yeah, he's a bit of a dumb schizo gay our Armatard. This whole thing had been going on for a while and then it fucking happened:
                The first production unit of the Su-57 crashed.
                It hadn't some minor problem like other problems he made threads about jets from other nations, it just downright crashed. PrepHole was having a blast and he knew what would come next, all his obnoxious shilling of the Su-57 and the nitpicking of other planes was about to explode in his face. He couldn't just turn up in the thread and start to make up excuses everyone would instantly knew it was him.
                But Armatard is a schizo, shutting up isn't an option, so he did the only thing his schizo brain could come up with: Pretending to be an obnoxious anti-russian poster. If he couldn't look good, the guys making fun of him sure weren't allowed either. This was his plan, in his mad and enraged state he thought it would work.
                It didn't.
                From the first moment on everyone was seeing right through it and laughing their asses off.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You may or may not be Armatard but calling everyone who disagrees with you a
                >glowie screecher
                makes you nearly just as schizo, frankly

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Frankly you sound a bit salty, like you weren't really happy to hear the real version of one of Armatard's most embarrassing moments. You know what's really nice about it? It's not another version with some new bullshit shoehorned into it for the tenth time in order to spread a wrong narrative.

                I mean wasn't Armatard's mental breakdown on that day hilarious? Everyone was having a laugh about him and to be fair he deserved it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I really wouldn't know which version of the two (or three?) posted here is true
                Either way you sound just as schizo if you say incredibly stupid statements like that

                Take it or leave it, I couldn't care less

                the missile itself doesn't have a radar seeker
                it it has a data link to a ground radar and then locks on with its IR seeker when it gets close to the target

                NTA but
                >IR seekers are actully an improvement over radar ones lol.
                Doesn't it use both?

                IRIS T SLM is radar guided, it doesn't have the IR seeker

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Use your brain and your gut feeling, who's version is more likely to be true, the detailed one which actually engages the topic, or the version of the guy that writes insulting and evading replies like

                [...]
                >”””glowie screechers”””
                >obsessing this hard over a thread from 2019 (according to the screenshot)
                What mental illness is this?

                >Armatard hasn't been going around pretending to be a Russia hater on a regular basis
                Lmao, Armatard, denying it doesn’t work when that’s exactly what you’re doing in this very thread, braindead lying vatnik. Now it looks like you’re desperately spamming in hopes the mods delete this thread so you can save face.

                that doesn't even really engage half of what's written in the prior post.
                And you'll see that lot, especially when he can't allow the discussion to continue into this direction.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Schizo gets overused, but damn if that is not a schizo post.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you even

                I really wouldn't know which version of the two (or three?) posted here is true
                Either way you sound just as schizo if you say incredibly stupid statements like that

                Take it or leave it, I couldn't care less

                [...]
                [...]
                IRIS T SLM is radar guided, it doesn't have the IR seeker

                ?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No he was not

                >IRIS T SLM is radar guided

                Why say something that's so easily disproven?

                So disprove it
                >you can't, because it's true

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                IRIS-T SLM is datalink command guided and then the aerodynamic seeker cover is popped off and terminal guidance is with the IIR seeker. This is all very public knowledge anon. It does not have a radar seeker.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >IRIS T SLM is radar guided

                Why say something that's so easily disproven?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh please, glowie screecher, calling everyone Armatard out of spite and making up bullshit may work on idiots and confused newbies, but otherwise it's just showing what a desperate gay you are and in the end you'll get confused with Armatard as always in the next thread, because you are as stupid and retarded as him.

                You know what? I'm gonna give context to the picture in [...] so people understand what's going on and let's be honest it's pretty hilarious:
                For years Armatard has shilled the Su-57 and at the same time nitpicked about about other planes (preferably from the West, never about russian planes) at every opportunity. No "news" was irrelevant enough for Armatard to make threads about it. There is a new picture of the Su-57? He made a thread with it. Some fake news site said something negative about a western jet on basis of hearsay? He made a thread about it. Who am i trying to fool? Often enough he made multiple over the same thing. Yeah, he's a bit of a dumb schizo gay our Armatard. This whole thing had been going on for a while and then it fucking happened:
                The first production unit of the Su-57 crashed.
                It hadn't some minor problem like other problems he made threads about jets from other nations, it just downright crashed. PrepHole was having a blast and he knew what would come next, all his obnoxious shilling of the Su-57 and the nitpicking of other planes was about to explode in his face. He couldn't just turn up in the thread and start to make up excuses everyone would instantly knew it was him.
                But Armatard is a schizo, shutting up isn't an option, so he did the only thing his schizo brain could come up with: Pretending to be an obnoxious anti-russian poster. If he couldn't look good, the guys making fun of him sure weren't allowed either. This was his plan, in his mad and enraged state he thought it would work.
                It didn't.
                From the first moment on everyone was seeing right through it and laughing their asses off.

                >”””glowie screechers”””
                >obsessing this hard over a thread from 2019 (according to the screenshot)
                What mental illness is this?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                t.

                [...]
                >less than minute between the posts
                The armatard / glowie screecher is having at least two devices in the thread, at least.

                ,

                https://i.imgur.com/COMWwdD.jpg

                Armatard is back at his old tactic of writing word salad / gibberish in an effort to make people ignore the posts calling him out or ruining his threads. Posts like this sometimes he copies through google translate, other times he writes them by hand, but the goal is the same, get regular anons to think any of the posts chronicling his antics or calling out his spam threads are the same kind of nonsense, at first glance. If you give him an audience, he will drone on for hours about all these characters.

                You must think it was so subtle and clever to mix in Armatard's post while you quoted the anti-Armatards and then false flagged about it. Watching vatniks like you try to be clever is like the mental gymnastics special olympics.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >'now I'm the one who calls YOU Armatard' Armatard enters the threads and proceeds to shit it up
            Armatard sucks donkey dicks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      well they did take out 2 (two) ka-52's with anti-tank missiles

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, because CAMM hasn't entered the game yet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even if CAMM would pull out 100% interception rate as well, it wouldn't be in the same range class.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Both IRIS-T SLM and CAMM-ER are in the 40km+ range class

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          CAMM is up to about 50km (Janes even reported a test out to 60km for the base version) and CAMM-ER is well in excess of 50km. Cards are being kept very close to the chest with these missiles as they are brand new, they'll never be given to Ukraine sadly but systems they are replacing might be.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        CAMM has greater range already. And 80-100km variant is in the works.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          CAMM used like on the British Navy ships has a range of 25km.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ER has 45km optimal and 60km maximum range.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Which isn't interchangeable

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Army's getting the ER variant

            CAMM is up to about 50km (Janes even reported a test out to 60km for the base version) and CAMM-ER is well in excess of 50km. Cards are being kept very close to the chest with these missiles as they are brand new, they'll never be given to Ukraine sadly but systems they are replacing might be.

            Anglos have a nasty habit of understating their capabilities a tad
            I can't say I complain, much

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Anglos have a nasty habit of understating their capabilities a tad

              Unlike Russia, Europeans actually giving meaningful stats. The 25+ and 40km ranges are basically areas which the missile still has kinetic energy to turn, somewhat important if you want to shoot down something.

              But you can still engage targets further away but the missile would basically glide the last part of the flight path - which obviously would reduce the chance of interception.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can even see that compared to US systems

                IRIS-T SLM official range drops way faster than US systems.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, are you seriously comparing Patriot to a medium range system? This is almost a russian tier of cope.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CAMM is basically a ASRAAM with better range sn't it? Then I don't see it can compete with the IRIS-T in agility and sensors.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It has a newer sensor than IRIS actually

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No it's not it's a heavily modified missile with a new seeker and side thrusters.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >heavily modified missile

        It's like you've failed to understand the acronym lol

        CAMM used like on the British Navy ships has a range of 25km.

        "greater than" 25km isn't the same as 25km, base missile has already been tested out to 60km, not even the ER version. Remember ASRAAM can be used as a BVR weapon, it's NEZ zone is massive compared to IRIS-T and yet it's still able to do the same over the shoulder / LOAL engagements.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's also got an active radar seeker so it doesn't get cucked by clouds, smoke or rain.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ironically, IRIS-T was the German attempt of making a Russian style missile.
    Instead of being F-Pole focused it was all about the fuckery of Furball.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Krautfag here. What can I say? The Luftwaffe did genuinely love those MiG-29s and their off-bore capability, so we decided we wanted to build some of that shit ourselves.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >IR missiles
    >best in range class
    lel

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Guided by a datalink off a radar and uses IR for terminal guidance
      Those were designed to be air launched, they just made the missile longer and added a an antenna to listen for guidance commands for the sam version

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Did the Germans just casually build the greatest SAM of its range class?

    Yes

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lmao slavaboos and chinless chuds suddenly avoid talking about the S400 after it was exposed as a shitty fraud that can't even intercept commercial drones normally used to take duckfaces for intagram.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think CAMM lost badly against Patriot in that competition in Switzerland.

    The only user of CAMM-ER is Italy, which is ,surprise surprise, the main developer of the ER variant.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't the only reasons these three systems were available because IRIS-T has just lost a competition in Poland against CAMM?

    Yeah i think so.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those were made for Egypt.

      Germany was just capable of making a deal with Egypt that those in production right now would go to Ukraine first.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No the IRIS-T system in Ukraine was supposed to be delivered to Egypt but got rerouted to Ukraine
      has nothing to do with Poland you retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukies praise Germans once
      >Polacks immediately crawl out of their holes

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They thought the two months we all loved to bash Germany would never end. But we are back at laughing at Poland.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        like clockwork

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        praise Germans once
        pretending to be Polacks immediately crawl out of their holes
        ftfy

        The fake anti-armatard

        Oh look, this guy again, back to gaslight and muddy up the water around Armatard and his backstory. You’ve been doing this for years despite it not working, probably the same posters in addition to being an obnoxious anti-vatnik to falseflag.

        trying everything to make anti-armatards look stupid is also in the thread. Curious.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Shut up, glowie screecher. You may not be Armatard, but you are as obnoxious and retarded.

          >Its the glowie screecher
          >Its ukranians praising germans
          >Its vatniks pretending to be polacks
          >it's the fake anti-Armatard
          Every time, the characteristic name calling spergout where Armatard tries everything to see which one will stick. Been done a million times and still only Armatard ends up being the one getting laughed at.
          >inb4 one of his bystander personas pop out of the woodwork

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      CAMM beat IRIS-T in Poland about the same time Type 31 beat that german ship.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You know that Poland bought Patriot

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Patriot and CAMM are complimentary systems, both integrated into M GBAD. Patriot couldn't hit a low level target for shit just as CAMM would struggle with a fast target at high altitude moving away. Everything has it's niche, that's why M GBAD exists.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >HATO has just figured out IADS

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Poland bought Patriot and CAMM, you know what system it didn't buy though?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        IRIS-T didn't even compete in Poland.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because IRIS-T can't compete with CAMM, the proof is in the sales really.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >SLM actually sold more batteries than CAMM and CAMM-ER for land applications

            >IRIS-T actually has more operators than ASRAAM

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >>SLM actually sold more batteries than CAMM and CAMM-ER for land applications

              1 this is wrong

              2 why limit it to land only? Its for sale at sea too and its getting mogged by CAMM

              3. ASRAAM suffers from poor marketing and integration.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >1 this is wrong

                Contract for a total of 27 systems so far. Excluding whatever Germany is also buying

                >2 why limit it to land only? Its for sale at sea too and its getting mogged by CAMM

                There is no sea integration for IRIS-T
                Germany has development share for RAM and ESSM in that domain.

                >3. ASRAAM suffers from poor marketing and integration.

                It's a kinda sucky missile in modern air-to-air engagements.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Those orders don't even match the UK let alone all the other nations ordering CAMM.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                start living in the real world.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I am, UK and Italy CAMM orders are for twice as many batteries, and that's before you start counting other countries.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No they didn't

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Germany deploys IRIS on submarines

                ASRAAM and IRIS are about the same air to air

                No they didn't

                UK is buying 24 CAMM launchers
                Italy is buying at least 14, probably more in future tranches
                Poland has received 2 and will get more

                Naval CAMM of course is very popular

                CAMM is pretty much designed to be cheap. The RF sensor is less advanced than the IRIS-T IR one which is straight up immune against ECM attempts.

                >active radar is less accurate than infrared
                Lol
                Lmao even

                https://i.imgur.com/tgK6Q2X.jpg

                Krautfag here. What can I say? The Luftwaffe did genuinely love those MiG-29s and their off-bore capability, so we decided we wanted to build some of that shit ourselves.

                Actually, it was a NATO/EU programme until literally everybody got angry and built their own missile
                >MICA, IRIS, ASRAAM
                All more or less the same

                CAMM is the next step above that. Maybe that's why it might rustle some jimmies, who knows.

                >they exploded in the sky
                russian media is clearly telling the truth, they just forgot to mention that the sekrit stealth cruise missiles happened to be in the exact same spot at the time of the explosion

                The good ol "Moskva is on fire but nobody knows why" Russian reporting

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              CAMM is a brand new system. It's a bit more capable than IRIS-T but both are good.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It isn't

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it is stop coping.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                CAMM is longer ranged and can engage in all weather, IRIS-T can't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                CAMM is pretty much designed to be cheap. The RF sensor is less advanced than the IRIS-T IR one which is straight up immune against ECM attempts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The state of this cope.

                ASRAAM uses a newer version of of the same seeker in IRIS-T, are you really expecting us to belive they dropped that seeker for a less capable one? And that somehow that rf seeker is worse than a radar? Lol

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                desperate

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Try to actually prove any of your points retard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're really expecting us to belive that a long life, non pre cooled IR sensor with a 128x128 resolution is somehow better than a radar?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are aware that IR seeker has a higher resolution than a RF seeker of the same weight class.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The true selling point of IR is basically the refreshrate.

                You can receive a way more accurate endgame designation than with radar.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                CAMM missiles are larger and faster than IRIS-T. They also have radar seeker which is better. They also have side thrusters which is better. Both are great missiles but CAMM is simply newer and better.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                none of those statements is true

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You know whats also newer and better? My polish whore.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The RF sensor is less advanced than the IRIS-T IR one

                I don't even think you belive this garbage. Its really embarrassing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukies praise Germans once
      >Polacks immediately crawl out of their holes

      every time something happens germs and poles think everyone has chosen a side. the reality is no one cares and both are retarded in their own unique ways

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And here it is - the hourly pavel cope.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/PKYlskX.gif

      CAMM beat IRIS-T in Poland. Germans in cope mode.

      Everyone knows poland has stopped buying german for political reasons. Doesn't have jack shit to do with how good or bad something is.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        IRIS-T wasn't even pitched

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And who will buy German wares now?
        And who will come to their help when their industry withers because they don't have enough cheap energy?
        And what will Europe do once it's economic motor stops?
        China will have nothing to fear once Europe is weakened.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CAMM is longer ranged,
    More common - cheaper
    found on land, sea and air platforms
    has an active seeker
    uses the battle proven Iron Dome software
    it's missiles all fit in the same launch capsules
    can be quad packed in a mk 41 VLS and has been certified for this
    and is part of NATO's Modular GBAD system.

    Not really fair to compare it with IRIS-T.

    Don't get me wrong, it's cool that it got to see action, but Ukraine only got three batteries and 24 missiles.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >greatest SAM of its range class
    Maybe. But you also have to consider that all it has to shoot down are flying lawnmowers and 50 year old soviet cruise missiles

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No real indo about it. Looking on how the russians still attacking the cities. I say iris t is definitly not 100% solid system.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, this missile can't see though clouds? That's a big L.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's always sunny in Germany.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this war is just a big advertisement for western weapon systems.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      May I interest you in the Boxer Platform?
      With its Plug and Play capability you can turn your Boxer into anything you want in 5 hours or less!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >With its Plug and Play capability you can turn your Boxer into anything you want in 5 hours or less!

        Modularization is meaningless unless the modules cost much less than the carrier.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/wBnQQJu.png

      May I interest you in the Boxer Platform?
      With its Plug and Play capability you can turn your Boxer into anything you want in 5 hours or less!

      If the Boxer does not pique your interest then maybe you should buy the Brand New Mantis Anti-air system made specifically to destroy Drones of any size
      It even comes with a Nato Standardized pallet for easy Transport and Technical tomfoolery!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ...and it can also be mounted on a Boxer!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but can you mount a boxer to a boxer?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No. That is strictly forbidden. Mounting a Boxer on a Boxer would set free so much energy that the universe would collapse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >palletised
        Typical HATO debauchery
        There's no reason 20 conscripts wouldn't be just as effective

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I and today's sponsor: General Dynamics ("pursue excellence") have no idea what you are talking about

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a breakdown what what it shot down?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >CAMM is better

    Well, can't wait to see it in Ukraine... oh wait.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine praises the German IRIS-T
    >some Poles arguing about CAMM being better

    send it to Ukraine then

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have no problem with IRIS-T doing well in Ukraine, I want every weapon sent there to kill many Russians. But what's happing here us laughing at the claim that IRIS-T is the best SAM system.

      You are aware that IR seeker has a higher resolution than a RF seeker of the same weight class.

      Completely fase, even using the word resolution for a radar is misleading.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Poland in charge of actually sending anything of worth

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They don't have the money anymore.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://twitter.com/StratcomCentre/status/1587093063519854593?s=20&t=mAGLXmm9Sz7fkAadNEOR4w

        Remember when they tried to get the latest Leopard 2 for free

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Source?

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My taxes kills rusmorons

    feels good mang

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How comes Poland has such a nice reputation of being anti russian when all they do is haggle about how their shitty commie tanks are about to be replaced by Germany

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its almost November and Germans are still seething about being told to either fuck off or pay up with their repair hub for the shithaubitzen2k

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pooland telling anybody to fuck off
      my toilet needs cleaning, jerzy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      meanwhile in reality its the poles that are seething because the Krabs are shit. So they are using Ukraine to try to force Germany to include technology transfers and training for polish companies or they wont allow the repair shop.

      This much of a clown is Poland.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        God I hate Polacks so fucking much.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/rSQwwWG.jpg

          >less than minute between the posts
          The armatard / glowie screecher is having at least two devices in the thread, at least.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          We know vatnik. Keep crying about them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >By the end of July many of the PzH 2000s' ammo loading mechanism broke down because of considerable strain: while the PzH 2000 is designed to fire 100 shells per day, the Ukrainians probably fired the gun much more often. Beside sending the necessary spare parts to Ukraine, the German government is negotiating the creation of a repair center for its equipment in Poland.

        Imagine making artillery that can't fire more than 100 rounds a day.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >oh no german equipment can detect performance degradation and warns you to do maintenance! The horror

          but Imagine instead building an artillery that transitions from he to she with no warning

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he to she
            Better than transitioning from Was to Were.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >100% interception rate
    Might be just a very pessimistic algorithm to save missiles that flags any firing solution below 99.98% predicted success as "no-lock". Being German it probably even looks for paths with several intercept points getting above 100% predicted success.

    Russian OTOH has >10 000 S-300 missiles. They fucking fire them in pairs. So you can't even get above 50% hit rate even if it's perfect, because there won't be a target anymore, when the second missile arrives.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Russian OTOH has >10 000 S-300 missiles.
      >Most of them don't even work because LMAO russian maintenance practices.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The IR seeker of the IRIS-T has quite massive advantages over your average RF seeker.

    >fully passive
    >ECM immune basically

    We are actually pretty good at jamming small RF seekers those days. Which means degrading the range of the missile's RF seeker in such a way that the ground radar is forced to provide missile guidance even longer, which makes it an easier targets for SEAD.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have no idea what you're talking about. If anything IR missiles are obsolete as they have no answer to being dazzled by DIRCM.

      Also

      >they can't see through clouds or smoke lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        eh no

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >100% hit rate against loitering drones and subsonic cruise missiles.
    vs
    >100% hit rate against Mach 4 Coyotes
    No

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Every fucking thread.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Based on official Ukrainian sources

    the same source for the Ghost of Queef ?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are we speaking to Armatard here, or Armatard's phone?

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unrelated post by now all of my green text is red for some reason what is the deal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the garden gnomes

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >can't even intercept ballistic missiles
    >literally just IRST-M variant
    >worse than PAC-2
    KWAB.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    does it also shut down the targeting system when it detects a turn signal lightbulb burning out or is it just pzh2k?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ukrainian sources
      we have footage of an IRIS-T missing a shahed 136 kek

      its comical how much they lie

      Your copium consumption is too high.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ukrainian sources
    we have footage of an IRIS-T missing a shahed 136 kek

    its comical how much they lie

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      may i see it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Your copium consumption is too high.

        >newfags havent seen the clip yet
        here you go children
        https://twitter.com/Fujirunner/status/1587184409161224193

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >bro it missed!
          >vatnik retard reposts a video of a hit because they are blind and/or never watched the full thing
          every time

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Loving the amount of seethe this little bro generates.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly couldn't care less about it - I do care about laughing at this retard who thinks it's the best SAM in the world and who thinks IR seekers are actully an improvement over radar ones lol.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but
        >IR seekers are actully an improvement over radar ones lol.
        Doesn't it use both?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nope

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the missile itself doesn't have a radar seeker
          it it has a data link to a ground radar and then locks on with its IR seeker when it gets close to the target

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes, china will build more soon afgter buying from the ukraine black market

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How could these trucks not scoop fast enough. Probably it is because France is Russias best allie in the West

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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It shot down 9/10 so not 100% but Diehl is working on an AI replacement/assistance to make it 100% hit rate aside from new composite materials, new liquid seeker, new fuel and booster system and new configurable payload.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Armatard was never real.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hirys

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No amount of propaganda would ever convince me germans of all people build a militry system with 100% success rate while a new BMW has to be repaired once a month on average

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Based on official Ukrainian sources

    the same that claims russian systems do not work
    but when they use them they somehow work better than anything else

    those ukranians?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You mean the Ukrainians who openly talk that NATO shit is better than their own old Soviet stuff?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        so which is which then
        all i see is just bullshit coming out of their mouths with no way ot proving anything

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lads i think i love germs

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CAMM beat IRIS-T in Poland. Germans in cope mode.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Poland

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know who is more butthurt about IRIS-T and being rated highly by Ukraine, Russia or Poland?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Russia. The """poles""" in these threads are just butthurt vatniks.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The IR seeker of the IRIS-T is quite interesting. And it shows how autistic Germany works on those things.

    IR is generally passive and is by naure immune against ECM attempts. And because how the IR seeker is specifically working it's highly immune against blinding lasers (which you generally don't have on drones, missiles and even planes anyway).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >And because how the IR seeker is specifically working it's highly immune against blinding lasers
      Can you explain more, or are you talking out of your ass?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The seeker is unusual: modern IR-guided weapons, such as the AIM-9X or ASRAAM, employ focal plane arrays (FPA) to identify targets through imaging infrared. The 128×128-pixel detector always fixes on the target, making it vulnerable to blinding lasers under development. In the IRIS-T, on the other hand, an FPA has been combined with mechanical scanning. A mirror is used to mechanically scan the field of view of the viewfinder, so that only a small section of the image is visible to the detector. Despite this design, a squint angle range of ±90° and a high tracking rate of the viewfinder could be achieved. For this purpose, the IRIS-T uses a linear two-color array with 128 × 2 pixels, which has an angular resolution in the milliradian range, and scans the field of view 80 times per second to build up an image with 128 × 128 pixels. Intelligent image processing detects IR decoys in the image and ignores them. For identification, a target library is available that contains images of all known military aircraft from different perspectives. For each target, eight of the most vulnerable points towards which the guided missile is heading are stored.
        >The smaller array can be better cooled, allowing for a smaller seeker dome that heats up less at high speed, improving the signal-to-noise ratio. The pixel dots of the two arrays are offset from each other so that small heat spots cannot fall into the gaps between the pixels during scanning. Since airborne targets at long range consist of only one or a few pixels, there is no loss of information compared to a large array. The combination of line scanner and staggered pixels avoids signal modulation or target loss at long range. The IRIS-T was explicitly designed to combat IR interferers (blinding lasers, IR flashing lights). If the viewfinder is blinded by a laser, the image is only crossfaded if the line scanner is looking directly at the energy source. If necessary, the IRIS-T then switches to a home-on-jam mode

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're right, that is admirably autistic.

          Where does this come from?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Aim9X, ASRAAM and IRIS-T all use pretty much the same seeker, with ASRAAM having the most up to date version due to a life extension only few years ago. Where did you copy this from? post source.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's some coping

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Post the source then, either it's a trash forum post or you've edited it, googles shows no matches.

              even ignoring that anti missile blending lasers don't really exist.

              The Germans basically already developed a countermeasure for something no one has.

              >even ignoring that anti missile blending lasers don't really exist.

              Retard.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          even ignoring that anti missile blending lasers don't really exist.

          The Germans basically already developed a countermeasure for something no one has.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Impressive autism.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Literally just use radar.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >jammed

            damn

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Short range radar jammers are a complete meme.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's easier to blind a camera. Plus IR can't see through clouds lol. I notice you e still avoided posting your BS source.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          IRIS-T is some shit - AIM-9X Block II is still not on the same level as IRIS-T.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Block III
            The USN projected that the new missile would have a 60 percent longer range, modern components to replace old ones, and an insensitive munitions warhead, which is more stable and less likely to detonate by accident, making it safer for ground crews. The need for the AIM-9 to have an increased range was caused by digital radio frequency memory (DRFM) jammers that can blind the onboard radar of an AIM-120D AMRAAM, so the Sidewinder Block III's passive imaging infrared homing guidance system was seen as a useful alternative. Although it could supplement the AMRAAM for beyond visual range (BVR) engagements, it would still be capable of performing within visual range (WVR). Modifying the AIM-9X was seen as a cost-effective alternative to developing a new missile in a time of declining budgets. To achieve the range increase, the rocket motor would have a combination of increased performance and missile power management. The Block III would "leverage" the Block II's guidance unit and electronics, including the AMRAAM-derived datalink. The Block III was scheduled to achieve initial operational capability (IOC) in 2022, following the increased number of F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighters to enter service. The Navy pressed for this upgrade in response to a projected threat which analysts have speculated will be due to the difficulty of targeting upcoming Chinese fifth-generation jet fighters (Chengdu J-20, Shenyang J-31) with the radar-guided AMRAAM,[37] specifically that Chinese advances in electronics will mean Chinese fighters will use their AESA radars as jammers to degrade the AIM-120's kill probability.However, the Navy's FY 2016 budget cancelled the AIM-9X Block III as they cut down buys of the F-35C, as it was primarily intended to permit the fighter to carry six BVR missiles; the insensitive munition warhead will be retained for the AIM-9X program.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              BVR sidewinder already exists, its called ASRAAM

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Which was rejected by the USA for sucking hard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The US chose a domestic weapons maker as they always do.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That would explain why all the other original ASRAAM nations went with IRIS-T.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >all
                France went with MICA

                The US chose a domestic weapons maker as they always do.

                I think it's more like the USA deprioritised Sidewinder upgrades

                Also, do note that every nation involved in this particular programme went with "domestic weapons makers", so I wouldn't give the USA particular guff about that

                every nation that could that is. nations without MICs can only afford to tag along

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >official sources
    >%100
    Only double digit IQs believe this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      shut the fuck up vatnik

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        YWNBAW

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Poland did it better.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yet another reddit superweapon that will change everything.
    How long will we wait for first confirmed kill, 6 months?

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Makes me wonder if you could also plug normal IRIS-T into those launchers. Shorter range but cheaper and more missiles available.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The IRIS-T SLS uses normal IRIS-T missiles, the IRIS-T SLM (the one in OP, send to Ukraine) uses the extended range variant missiles.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that doesn't really answer my question.

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The IRyS-T is God's gift to mankind

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