I've asked about based soldiers throughout history but this time, I'm mixing it up and asking for only fictional soldiers to be posted. However, I'm still starting with one of the greatest, Lieutenant Colonel Tanya von Degurechaff who is the very definition of ruthlessness and ambitiousness as well as writing an entire thesis on how to get around pussy leftist war crimes laws using clever lawyering.
Is this a copypasta or are you being serious?
If something as based as Tanya's thesis has ever been written in real life, it should be standard reading for any officer.
you'd be surprised just how many simpletons there are that like Tanya and have the message sail clear past them. (like always calling their media literacy skills 'inadequate' is being generous)
PrepHole has a stunningly awful collective taste in media. I mean it is actually shocking in how bad it is.
What are some (you)-approved PrepHole media?
Not him, but Cat Shit One
>"Did you see your virgins?"
>"No?"
audibly kek'd when I read that
wish they were longer
I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar that whoever writes this shit knows perfectly well that people like OP are just going to see Tanya as unironically cool and want to emulate her, and the "Nooooo the show is about how she's bad" cope is just an excuse to pretend it's deeper than it actually is. It's like how Rick and Morty was clearly written in a way where you're meant to think Rick is badass and funny (I always thought the show was shit, but that's the intent), and then the atheist cucks who write it do interviews where they pretend it's not a power fantasy for losers to excuse themselves of promoting shit morals.
Agree the show is and always was shit but it's hilarious how much it triggered religiousfags like yourself.
Im agnostic, I just think new atheist Richard Dawson types, basically the authors of Rick and morty are low iq incels no better than the avg 4chantard that we get on PrepHole.
If hating low iq consumerist trash is wrong I don’t wanna be right
to be fair, I think the author themselves is in that category. why else would it have never been pointed out that tanya's diregard (and her influence causing other officers to adopt the same behavior) for the spirit of the ruls of war would cause the letter to get thrown out as well or that countless other rulers took the same approach as she (as well as other officers, also due to her influence) did to stopping the cycle of revenge (destroying every enemy completely) and had it backfire on them (because they were intensifying the cycle) more often than not or that examples of the cycle of revenge not happening because one or both sides show restraint exist in both her world and the world she ended up in, (if the allies adopted her approach, not only her but her parents or even grandparents would never have been conceived). Not to mention that Tanya gets no justice for any of her behavior though I'm not entirely sure if that's because of the writer or because it's the current trend of anime villain protagonists to get success no matter what. I'm sure if Death Note was written to day, its various adaptations would have ended with Light victorious (possibly by Matsuda siding with him despite Light trying to kill him multiple times) instead of the undignified demises that he instead suffered It's like if one of the people who cooked crystal meth after watching Breaking Bad decided to instead write a novel
Tanya's character is quite different in the original work, the light novel. There, she's ruthless, but rational, and there's no mention of the sort of psychotic behavior she engages in in the anime. There are stories of her brutality on the battlefield, but, well, it never states how accurate they are. Also, here's the beginning of the afterword for the first book.
Aw shit, I rotated it one time too many.
It's the Fortunate Son/Yankee Doodle effect. An enjoyable piece of art meant to parody or be against something often winds up with its meaning changed by those who actually support that thing. No one has a monopoly on how art is interpreted.
Yeah these are good examples too. Most war movies are like this as well. A large portion of war movies (I hesitate to say majority) are created with the intent to not glorify war or at least portray war in its true horrendous nature. Yet almost all war movies, regardless of their intent, end up glorifying war in some manner to the eyes of the viewer
There's understanding that Starship Troopers was filmed to be a parody of you and failed so hard it became a defense of you, and there's simping for a particularly faggy anime.
Another example is John Rumford of the Victoria novels. He refuses to allow a femoid gain an unearned position in a military ceremony and crushes technologically stronger foes through the power of his basedness and the manliness he infuses in his warriors.
>and crushes technologically stronger foes through the power of his basedness and the manliness he infuses in his warriors.
So the thirdie doctrine of war? So far it doesn't seem to work outside of decades long insurgencies.
He/she is less ruthless in the light novels.
>Zero harems
>Not a fucking JRPG setting
>No weird slavery fetish shit
>The one e-boi gets no fanservice
Refreshing for an isekai.
surprisingly the amount of hentai of Tanya is also really low compared to other e-boi characters
I mean her character design is objectively AIDS. I straight up refuse to watch the show because of that alone, I don't want to spend hours of my life looking at that toad creature
Working as intended. The anime studio made her ugly on purpose so incel anime loser pedophiles wouldn't lust over the little girl.
They absolutely failed though?
Nope, very little lewd art of Tanya. It was a massive success. Compare her to any other e-boi character from a similarly popular show. Success doesn't mean you filter out 100% of pedophiles, just more than average.
How would you know?
anon, are you going to pretend looking at a danbooru character page is some difficult feat?
Yes
You're an idiot.
Are you retarded? At what point did anime studios care about degenerates spanking it to their product?
NTA
Anime is entirely based around its female characters since it's a medium for incels
Which makes his claim that Tanya was intentionally made ugly to keep people from being attracted to her all the more idiotic
Explain all the dogshit Tanya doujins I have to scroll over just to get to the good gender bender stuff then, smartass
But then they made Tanya's second in command stacked in the anime.
What does that have to do with what I said? Tanya's 2nd in command isn't a child so it doesn't matter if she is really hot and lewdable.
>that ryona/guro artist who made a ryona doujin of Tanya once (1) and then dedicated his life to drawing vanilla hand-holdy missionairy sex until they run out of condoms and just barebacks it Tanya x Rerugen
>continues to do ryona/guro on the side
This artist is dangerously based.
turner from the nominal turner diaries
Rylanor, ancient of rites a true child of the Emperor
Rylanor was so immensely based it made me neutral to the EC when, before, I thought they were all sex pest losers. Now I know why those left alive are sex pest losers.
If someone like Tanya was in charge of the US military during Afghanistan or various other wars that America lost, we would have won. Her strategy is to destroy her enemies utterly, no gayy nation building or other liberal foppery, just go in and kill and kill and kill until there isn't a single mudslime or commie able to threaten us again.
>If someone like Tanya was in charge of the US military
...she'd get fragged long before making it to the top command.
She literally managed to get murdered in a civilian job over simply firing a guy, what makes you think she'd survive sending armed people to their deaths?
The only reason manga got past single-digit chapter number is the massive amounts of plot armor.
Tanya nearly rammed a bayonet into an insubordinate conscript (she was stopped by a superior) and ensured that two insubordinate soldiers died from an artillery strike. Even if she learned not to so blatantly execute a subordinate after the first time and decided to do so subtly the rest of the time, soldiers will notice a pattern or gossip that anyone who disobeys her tends to get killed. They would have, it the subject matter wasn't immediatly forgotten about and Tanya in favour of author fiat ensuring that she never has to deal with insubordinate soldiers again.
What you described doesn't happen in the manga. They added that to the anime to make Tanya evil so you wouldn't root for her. They even renamed the manga to Tanya "The Evil". Literally telling you "HEY THIS CHARACTER IS EVIL PLEASE DON'T ADMIRE HER" while writing in evil actions for her to perform to back it up.
Also she wasn't even really mean to the guy she fired. He showed up late for work, again. So she fired him. How is that unfair? Guy was a loser and killed her, that's not her fault lol. The god in her world is retarded.
>you fire a guy because he keeps showing up late for work
>guy murders you for it
>god decides the murderer was the good guy and the manager who fired her was the bad guy
>decides to punish the guy just doing his job instead of the MURDERER
lol.
I think you misremember or just speedread, the god doesn't punish him for firing that coworker, he punishes him for not bowing down to him and even insulting him.
Hell, it's why he reaincarnated him in such a shitty situation, so that with every single support structure for his psyche gone he would be forced to ask him for help and, eventually, worship him.
>Also she wasn't even really mean to the guy she fired. He showed up late for work, again. So she fired him. How is that unfair?
Where exactly are you getting this from?
Maybe it's elaborated at some point as a flashback, in which case I won't bother looking for it; but in the first chapter, nothing suggests the guy was in any way at fault here. He's being coerced into signing a voluntarily resignation despite being a faithful employee, purely because the company is restructuring.
>manga
It's a light novel you fucking gay, the manga is just another adaption. Zoomers can't even be bothered to read anymore
In the LNs Tanya does use magic to almost split the insubordinate guys head open saying "Lets see if you have any brains in your head or not"
The guy who originally isekai'd him in the LNs was transferred to another department he knew nothing about, given insufficient training to work in that department, then fired without any mercy for "being worthless" even though he explained his situation and asked for help with it
This sounds like a splendid way of becoming a geopolitical pariah viewed with scorn and disgust by the entire world at best, and a smoking crater of a nation nuked by an increasingly threatened (And possibly equally irradiated) China or Soviet Union.
Also adopting a strategy of "Kill and kill and kill" does not exactly work. The Nazis tried that in Greece, and it just got the survivors to utterly despise them and fight even harder.
It was also the American strategy in Vietnam, what with the body count, and the enormous multi-year long bombing campaigns in North Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos. About twenty more NV combatants died than (And God knows how many civilians) and yet the North persevered.
Had the Americans gone into Japan in 1945 with the intent to "Kill and kill and kill", for instance, they would have had hundreds of thousands more dead, because if someone is going to kill you regardless, might as well die fighting.
It does seem an alluring prospect, to just turn your enemy to a fine powder and be done with it. But it just simply does not work in the modern age.
>t. followers of slave morality
>He doesn't even attempt to deny his love of the rapist child murderer
This is why the right is doomed to fail. It's fortunate you are too stupid to see how ridiculous you look.
See
>Still talking about might makes right
Worked out real well for the Nazis back in WW2 huh? They lost so shut the fuck up about it.
>entire planet had to team up and use warcrimes to win
Weird how that works.
>Still lost
By your own logic they are losers and weaklings to be trodden upon.
What kind of idiot thinks they can start a fight with the whole world then cry when they get smacked for it by literally everyone else.
The axis powers took on the whole world with a small part of it and almost won.
Go back.
>gb2r
>From an election tourist
>Slave morality
moron I'm talking about behaving in a way that does not cause the entire Eastern Hemisphere to put aside their differences and ally against you purely to ensure they are not wiped off the face of the Earth.
But anon, we were there to make money for the MIC, thats it. If we just killed everyone or (god forbid) set up a functioning democracy, we'd have made a lot less money. And that's why we didn't do it.
>is at heart a scheming coward
>who becomes ever more reckless and unhinged
>because they stubbornly fail to face the facts before them for what they are, preferring being delusional over admitting fault
Zero media literacy.
>cowardly, reckless
That's not even consistent, or true. She puts her life on the line for duty constantly, so she's not a coward. She never does anything without a plan, so she's not reckless (yes these plans always have faulty assumptions, but delusional is the only part of her character you got right). And somehow you failed to mention sociopathy despite it being her most obvious and core trait. Are you sure you're good at this media literacy thing?
His sociopathic tendencies aren't necessarily a "bad" or "non-based" trait for a soldier.
He put his life on the line only for the purposes of getting off easy, and because his scheme of getting ranked up to a safe, administrative rear-line officer duty backfired. You're forgetting the eternal damnation that's also in play, which is quite a significant element in his calculus of trying to become invaluable.
You're also forgetting his past life as a petty company man, who enjoyed causing suffering, hiding behind the bureaucratic protection of the corporation. This lays great perspective onto the core of his character. He literally lived by shirking from the responsibilities of his self-indulgence, and that of doing the "right thing". This hubris cost him his life.
This same pattern of behavior continues with "Being X". He would rather try to trick, short-change, play on technicalities, and outright deny the undeniable power of what's, for all intents and purposes, a godlike being, than accept a painful reality and the burden of reevaluating himself.
If you think for just a moment, cowards are often reckless and self-defeating in their behavior. Their rationale is irrational. This can manifest in many ways, in his case through the filter of his sociopathy. And you're falling for the act.
>He put his life on the line only for the purposes of getting off eas
In no way is being brave today in expectation of reward tomorrow cowardice. It's definitely delusional since it always digs a deeper hole which he (he/she idc it's a matter of perspective) stays in resolute denial of, but it's not cowardice. By that standard the only way not to be a coward would be to be a berserker that lives only for the next battle, and the whole joke is that that's what everyone else thinks he is and I think that's what gives you the impression that it is the standard.
>You're also forgetting his past life as a petty company man, who enjoyed causing suffering, hiding behind the bureaucratic protection of the corporation.
I'm not forgetting, considering I was the one who brought up his sociopathy. Being unnecessarily ruthless is his real major recurring character flaw.
>This same pattern of behavior continues with "Being X". He would rather try to trick, short-change, play on technicalities, and outright deny the undeniable power of what's, for all intents and purposes, a godlike being, than accept a painful reality and the burden of reevaluating himself.
Ah yes the ultimate cowardice, refusing to submit to someone much more powerful because it would require abdicating your ideals to do so.
>ultimate cowardice, refusing to submit to someone much more powerful because it would require abdicating your ideals to do so.
ayy lmao
every hero ever written is a heckin coward
bait
Tanya goes the whole story experiencing what is best in life (see pic
). It's a common thread where leftoids write media meant to demean us superiors where due to their feelings of inferiority (the root of leftist thought) they can't help but aknowledge our self-evident superiority over them. To give two other examples:
The Skaven are meant to make us look repulsive through emotional manipulation (language used to describe them such as describing their red-pilled use of woman as vile or demands that survival and advancement be built solely on ones ability to thrive on their own being described as cruel, as well as making them ratmen) yet have technology far in advance of everyone else, a foothold everywhere in the world, such fast population growth that they'll never be under existential threat and being guaranteed to take the world for themselves.
The Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k counterpart to the Skaven) was made to mock us. It is also the sole government responsible for human survival, controls the whole galaxy and it exists in a world where liberalism causes demons to claw into reality and rape (sometimes literally) everything they get ahold of.
>The Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k counterpart to the Skaven)
Both the Imperium and the Skaven are an oligarchy based on an edifice of meritocracy, wrapped around a theocracy as their power is also centered around the clergy and a seat is reserved for their god in their main edifice of governance, and within it there is a technocracy with a monopoly on technology. All of which is presiding over a multitude of semi independent nation states, each with its structures, generally authoritarian regimes, subordinated to the central governing body, bound to it by its ability to redistribute resources and military forces, as well as its monopoly on religion. Both are genocidal, xenophobic, expansionistic, reactionary, intolerant hobesian societies built around mistrust, hatred and xenophobia. Both are deeply reliant on the divine intervention of their deity to survive and both enforce their worship rigorously, with no other alternatives of worship whatsoever, noncompliance being meet with a swift execution. Both these fractious societies are held together by fear and a subfaction of professional assassins whose sole job is to identify, target and eliminate all elements that pose a threat to the status quo, be it internal or external. The parallels don't end there, both dabble in biomancy, genetic experimentation, resort to mass wave attacks helped along by a few specialists, and subsist primarily out of cannibalism, quite literally feasting on the corpses of their own. And as a side note, no, not even space faring capabilities, lasers or teleportation divides them, as the Skaven have those capabilities too.
The Clergy were checked in a war and the other departments and high lords watch them like a hawk...or eagle.
Nepotism is favored over merit, shown plenty of times in the books.
It's Space Feudalism with a heavy dose of communism to fill in the gaps.
Really, if you just pay your tithes, the Imperium really doesn't care how you run your government, but most governors are DeFacto kings, until a commander of a Regiment of Guard show up, or an Inquisitor.
>leftist writes media that accidentally makes the right wing look cool
It’s unfortunately very common. One movie that comes to mind right away is Starship troopers. Albeit the society portrayed in the movie isn’t arguably right wing, Veorhoeven intended to make it right wing and to make the human fascist government look bad. Yet every single person who saw the movie sympathized with the humans on all moral and ethical standards
Kek, I remember watching Fight Club and not realizing until almost an entire decade later that it’s supposed to be satire criticizing toxic masculinity or some gay shit like that
It's criticizing the delusional mindset that created the term "toxic masculinity."
>Comparing a bunch of backstabbing rat men who have the most rickety-ass tech meant to kill themselves just as much as the next guy to the Imperium of Man
retard-kun, you'd be better off comparing the Imperium of Man to the Dawi, or better yet the Dawi-Zharr, if you wanted a better comparison
Comparing the white man to a bunch of methed-up rats who stab each other in the back constantly thus ensuring that while they have the numbers they will NEVER, EVER take the world because they're too paranoid of each other to coordinate efficiently/will kill one another at any given chance is like comparing the orks with fucking Rome of all things
I'm just letting you know, you're making yourself look like a gigantic retarded ratfag, and I hope you understand that all ratfags deserve getting gutted by Lizardmen
As the Great Plan Demands
based lizard chad
The Lizardmen are mindless NPC followers of a ~~*plan*~~ that they themselves don't understand. They are the equivalent of Antifa and other golems.
NTA but:
Imperium of Man:
>Theocratic Empire ruled by a god in theory but not in practice
>Cutthroat internal politics where everyone is trying to get ahead of anyone else
>Main drive is hatred towards the other
>Small privileged elite rules over a vast ocean of expendible individuals living cheek to jowl in huge labyrinthine warrens.
>Solution to everything is throwing bodies at the problem
>Ruled by a council where 12 members are present with the highest level being symbolically held by its god
>Most advanced technology is extremely rare and is never used for the benefit of the general populace
Skaven:
>Theocratic Empire nominally ruled by a god
>Cutthroat internal politics where everyone is trying to get ahead of anyone else
>Main drive is hatred towards the other
>Small privileged elite rules over a vast ocean of expendible individuals living cheek to jowl in huge labyrinthine warrens.
>Solution to everything is throwing bodies at the problem
>Ruled by a council where 12 members are present with the highest level being symbolically held by its god
>Most advanced technology is extremely rare and is never used for the benefit of the general populace
You could say most of that shit about most evil empires. Reducing things to generalities like that collapses the actual meaningful distinctions between them.
If we're just going by setting counterparts (40k was a spinoff to Warhammer Fantasy), then the Imperium of Man shares more in common with the Skaven than any other society in Warhammer Fantasy.
>40k was a spinoff to Warhammer Fantasy
why is the spinoff so much bigger than the thing it spun off from? Hardly anyone even knows about warhammer fantasy and if you say warhammer they assume you mean 40k.
GW killed Warhammer Fantasy by pricing new players out of the game.
Complete incompetence from GW, and trust me, that is a running theme.
>why is the spinoff so much bigger than the thing it spun off from?
Because sometimes the spinoff becomes more popular than what it spun off from and by relation, starts getting more resources. The spinoff becoming more popular and/or getting more resources doesn't change that it's a spinoff.
It's not that rare, ask Shin Megami Tensei fans for example.
It hurts every day.
It's actual fantasy counterpart is the Empire. The church, the feudal structure, squabbling nobles, repression of people with magic powers, witch hunters. The skaven eagerly accept and experiment not just with machines but warp stuff which is a big no for the Imperium. These are the real parts that matter.
"They're both assholes who treat their people like shit and are ruled by an oligarchy" is just so common in both settings that it's barely worth mentioning as a similarity.
>The church
The Empire is a polytheistic society. Even the High Priests of the various cults will aknowledge and invoke other gods when working in a field outside of the scope of the cult they are part of. The Cult of Sigmar arguably isn't even the most prominent in The Empire with the Cult of Ulric being quite stiff competition. Sigmar is aknowledged as founder of The Empire but is not considered to be the ruler of The Empire in theory and even The Emperor of The Empire is aknowledged to have rules and standards that he is held to. Both the Imperium of Man and The Skaven are monotheistic societies and in theory, their main god, (The Emperor for Imperium and Horned Rat for Skaven) is the undisputed and unchallengable ruler of their societies and are their own justifications for their actions. And in both cases, this is not the case in practice since The Emperor is dying on The Golden Thrones while The Horned Rat is physically unable to enter the Warhammer World.
>the feudal structure
The Imperium of Man overall doesn't work on a feudal structure. There are segments of it that do but it's not the overall government in theory nor practice.
>squabbling nobles
Present in both the Imperium and The Empire but the Imperium takes it to the scale of the Skaven, not to the level of the Empire. The Imperium has countless redundant departments all in competition with each other and constantly competing for limited resources, just like the countless Skaven clans.
>repression of people with magic powers
Both the Imperium of Man and the Skaven are highly reliant on the power of The Warp and people who can wield those powers to function, The Emperor himself was a powerful psyker (not that the Imperium aknowledges this). The only difference in this respect between the Imperium of Man and the Skaven is the hypocrisy on the Imperium's side as psykers of any type are hated by both government and populace.
(To be continued)
The Empire went most of existence refusing to use magic in any large scale. The only parts that did is arguably the various religious cults of The Empire. Even after the founding of the colleges, The Empire still hasn't integrated magic very far into their society, everything that can be done without any intentional inclusion of the arcane is almost always done without its intentional inclusion. After the founding of the colleges, The Empire's government also stopped being particularly repressive towards magic users for being magic users, with magisters frequently becoming important and more distinctly, respected advisers and officials throughout its government. The general populaces continued distrust for magic users is due to inertia from a history of centuries of disdain towards magic users, not because the governments of The Empire are hostile to them and constantly propagandize against them.
>witch hunters
Present and prominent in the Skaven as well as the Imperium and The Empire. With the Skaven, everyone is a "witch hunter" (replace Witch Hunter with Inquisitor because that's a more broad term) because it is believed that any insufficient reverance for The Horned Rat will bring his wrath on not just everyone involved, with anyone nearby being collateral damage. Proportionally, shouts of HERESY occur with around the same amount of frequency between the Imperium and the Skaven with the act occurring far less in The Empire.
>The skaven eagerly accept and experiment not just with machines but warp stuff which is a big no for the Imperium.
See the rest on magic use.
>"They're both assholes who treat their people like shit and are ruled by an oligarchy"
In terms of treating its people badly, The Empire is light years behind The Imperium and the Skaven while the latter two are around neck and neck. With The Empire, it's aknowledged that the sovereign rulers owe their people protection and some level of prosperity.
(Still needs more posts to finish)
Dont bother
With the Skaven and the Imperium, any one with a position of power over another is not considered to have any obligation towards the well being of the ones they have power over and instead, can freely spend those they have power over as if they are resources. With the Skaven, this right is believed to be gained from being the most capable of clawing their way up their vicious hierarchy (and whoever does so is assumed to have gained the favor of the Horned Rat by doing so), with the Imperium, this right is believed to be gained by personal selection by The Empire, which in practice, is identical to the Skaven.
Finally, I will note some unmentioned similarities that the Imperium and The Skaven share that are not present in The Empire:
>One of the major aspects of both The Imperium and the Skaven is their hatred for anyone who is not human (and of a certain baseline human) and not Skaven respectively. The Empire, by contrast, has forged good relationships with non-humans, with their strong relationships with the High Elves and the Dwarfs being major aspects of their history. On a more minor note, they are also accepting of the Ogres and Halflings, though they are able to interact on good terms more often with the latter than the former. The Imperium of Man claims that its hatred for xenos is justified because during the Age of Strife, every xeno in the galaxy took advantage of it to destroy or enslave every human nearby, which was shown to be lies once stories of the Great Crusade were published, giving examples of xenos who did have the back of human friends that were within reach. These xenos were then exterminated anyway alongside any humans who did not want to betray the xenos who helped them survive The Age of Strife, and despite claims from The Emperor who said that he would be fine with xenos who don't make an enemy of mankind.
(Needs another post to finish)
>The Empire does not claim a monopoly on humans in existence and does not believe it is entitled to be the sole governing body of every human. It has very good relationships with neighbouring Bretonnia, Kislev and the Southern Realms, positive but constrained by distance interactions with Cathay, Ind and Nippon and can even occasionally interact on good terms with ethnicities that are usually enemies (Arabyans and Norscans). The Imperium and the Council of 13 will not accept outside humans/Skaven, destroying or absorbing any human/skaven faction outside of their rule.
Isekais are cancer, just like 95% of anime from after Y2K. Anyway for me it's Bernie Wiseman, the best hamburger in all of Zeon. 0080 was pure kino. I also like most of the cast from Starship Troopers, they're pretty based. I especially like when that one teacher BTFO's the libtard girl.
Cut the council size in half and that's literally the Japanese Empire.
>In the grim darkness of the far East...
27 year old Violooter
>isekai
Alice in Wonderland and Chronicles of Narnia were a thing before that weebshit was created
>Narnia not being cancer
C.S. Lewis in general was cancer, he is almost Jack Chick levels of propaganda, some isekais can be fun it's just that now people hate them to look like they have good taste while still watching shounenshit, yurishit, etc.
As for based soldiers, Victor Reznov come to mind:
Whether like Narnia isn't my point you retarded weeb gay. My point that is that the character out place genre was a thing before japan got their filthy mitts on it every weeb gay started calling it "isekai" as if they invented it
>You there, stop loaning that word!
Imagine calling the genre "accidental travel" like an enormous gay because the japanese make you cry and shit your pants
>Dawi-Zharr
>Not Uzkul-Drazh-Zharr
Get this Khazalid shit out of here, Shortling. Go back to your Hold.
this post reeks of ratgayry
Reminds me of how Alan Moore hates Rorschach and wrote him in a way that tried to portray him as bad, but he's easily the most-liked character in Watchmen.
Turns out that even if you’re a disgusting person, having them die for what they believe in, especially the truth, makes them seem pretty noble. Moore is also a commie and a myopic idiot so
And how he mean for Ozymendias to be a sympathetic villain but only comes off as a megalomaniac narcissist who thinks his vast intellectual makes him the hero
You are an idiot, the Imperium of Man is written by asking the question "what if every single piece of war propaganda in the worst dictatorship we can think of was actually an accurate representation of reality?"
It shows how if the world was actually how the extreme right wing saw it, it would be the shittiest world imaginable, even in those circumstances it can't escape how the government was incompetent.
Hell, even with an Ubermensch like the Emperor as a supreme dictator isn't enough to make dictatorship actually work on the long term, shitting on the whole "enlightened dictator" thing that some idiots still try to push (because remember, the Horus Heresy was ultimately a failure of the Emperor)
Not him but that doesn’t really disprove his point. I think he’s simply saying it’s meant to mock the right but much of the audience accidentally empathize with the imperium of man.
The other problem is they also made the right wing propaganda/ how the right wing chair at urea their enemies into a reality. And in a world where the right wings fears are actually valid, then well the right becomes valid. One of the biggest reasons the far right, in our timeline at least, isn’t a valid governmental ideology is simply because the problems they focus on are kinda non issues. Same can be said for the far left too though imo
The thing is, even in a world where all their propaganda is real, their way still isn't the best way. You can understand how it got to that point and even empathize with everyone involved, but it doesn't mean that it's the right way to do things and it's clear that their methods aren't working.
FFS, the biggest win that the Imperium got in years (healing Roboute Gulliman) only happened thanks to the help of the Eldar, going against every xenophobic ideal the Imperium ideology is based on.
Yeah I can get that. I’m not saying most of the audience don’t think there’s a better way, just that by merely empathizing with and having a complete understanding and acceptance of the rational of the system is in itself contradictory to its intent since it’s meant to completely satirize right wing ideology.
Not that uncommon in media nowadays
>The Imperium of Man (Warhammer 40k counterpart to the Skaven)
Dumbest motherfucking motherfuckers on this fucking cursed earth. I'm just gonna think you're trolling and head out to enjoy a nice Friday night with real people.
Not sure how that’s dumb. People viewed a piece of art in the opposite of its intention. American psycho is another good example. One guy mentioned the Yankee Doodle song. Its a valid and accepted take on culture
Not sure why you got so butthurt lol
Many such cases
Pic rel is the only interesting character in this leftiod show
He's supposed to be a caricature of America and the hero complex in its worst form, but he's the only good and genuine man in the entire show
Homelander is the ubermensch. He is his own justification and he makes everyone believe it. Leftoid heroes are only heroes in a slave morality context.
>Homelander
>Good and genuine
Ah yes, the literal rapist and power obsessed (child) murderer.
I can see why the right would like such a character.
>was horribly abused and experimented on
I'm surprised he's even functional, much less psychotic.
>child murderer
Wait what.
>t.
blame the leftoid writers for making almost every other character boring or insufferable
Good assessment. This is why I loved the empire in star wars. And why I fucking hated return of the jedi. It felt like such contrived bullshit. Fuck the rebels and fuck the republic.
>power obsessed (child) murderer.
But I thought the left was pro abortion?
You know if you are going to make pedobait you could at least have the girl not look like a frog.
The weirdest part is I’m pretty sure that was intentional. At least in the anime
Tanya is literally a chud
K was right
guns and chuds are inextricably linked
He isnt a chud if theyre literally a man stuck in a wonans body. That’d be like saying the an android is a chud because they have no gender or a superhero is schizo for thinking they're the chosen one and people are trying to control there thoughts.
> literally a man stuck in a wonans body
Literally every blue haired land whale who claims to be a man
Congrats on explaining your chud is the most annoying kind of chud
>A woman's body
The body is genetically female, therefore it is a female. No one cares what the brain is, you do not fuck the brain.
Women born women who claim to be gay men, retard
>our self-evident superiority over them.
Who is our? Trannies?
Irony of picking a psychotic chud writen by a leftoid as your hero
You're saying you think those blue haired landwhales really do have the exact personality and memories of a middle age salaryman, but were placed in a female body because they defied god?
>placed in a female body because they defied god?
The real question is, are chuds supposed to be divine punishment inflicted on them, or on the world?
Except the MC isn't going around trying to be seen as a man and going off on whoever calls them a woman.
Also from what I've seen litteraly everyone in the fandom want Tanya to eventually accept who she is now and leave the salaryman identity behind, so if anything the message is anti trans
It’s by a leftist who did a chudmc tho
>my mind is le other gender
No such, Tanya's got XX so shes female.
>Reincarnation exist within the setting
>Protagonist is a biologically female girl who just remembers her previous life in another universe
It's not really that hard anon, you should stop reading too much 4chan.
Personally my only problem with Tanya is that she is still an underage, but we already know how she is going to look like once she gets older so no problem there.
Cheap main character that has a middle-aged salaryman's soul piloting the narrative. Why are japanese LM readers so scared of trying to engage with fantasy characters that aren't literally from their own Tokyo ward? What is this particular cultural mentality at play here?
Anyway, Amuro is pretty based. Autistic child soldier who goes on to become an anti-government terrorist who fights other terrorists before dying to stop a terrorist from dropping an asteroid on the Earth
He’s not a chud so k doesn’t care about him
>Amuro is pretty based
Amuro is great. I like his character development throughout Gundam.
fellow mechbros, care to indulge in some mecha shilling?
For me, it will always be Armored Troopers VOTOMS
It's Xabungle for me
Some works use reincarnated as X in an "okay" manner but for most it's just a case of "because everyone does it". What's the point of writing a villainess story if you're going to make the protagonist villainess into a dindunuffin cinnamon roll and the heroine into the biggest bitch alive? Anyway you could just pick just about any side character from OG Gundam and have a better protag than any reincarnator LN
>Why are japanese LM readers so scared of trying to engage with fantasy characters that aren't literally from their own Tokyo ward?
It's a power fantasy.
idk but it makes me mad. Like 99% of Isekai is just the main character immediately going to a fantasy world and then never talking about or interacting with his home world again. If that's the case, why not just have them originate in the fantasy world?
Can japs not enjoy anything unless they can self insert? It's fucking pathetic.
Based taste, it's a shame gundam protagonists fell off so hard after him.
Kamille is good too but in a being the anti-amuro doomed to cruel fate of his own making sort of way.
>What is this particular cultural mentality at play here?
For all the romanticization Japanese society gets here it's actually really fucked and soul crushing, to the point that for many their lives peaked in high school. Fucking high school. So these sort of derivative power fantasies that also involve being a whole other world are a form of escapism. Hence they have to make the MC some menial drone working in Tokyo's business district and living in some shitty studio apartment.
Why is there so much isekai? It sells, so even if your series is going to drop the "I'm just a normal Japanese highschool student trapped in my favorite MMO" bullshit after two chapters and become straight fantasy I would imagine editors demand that it be in there for the initial hook.
Why do nips love isekai so much? Cultural scholars and historians are divided on whether the answer to this question is "too many nukes" or "not enough".
>Why is there so much isekai?
>Why do nips love isekai so much?
See
>autistic
>loves weapons
>can chat endlessly on the specs of an AS
>has no room in his head for dumb shit like parties
>carries a TMP
>isn't isekaishit
>could get his dick wet easy
>doesn't care and continues to pilot the robot
>not above shooting someone in the dick, tactics before morals
>bisexual rapist
>doesn't care about politics, just wants to kill, preferably spacenoids
>Australian wildman born to a savage tribe of bogans
>threatens the protagonist with rape as a battlecry
>only came to space because he wanted to glass the cunts that dropped a colony on his continent and fucked up his house
>latent newtype despite being born on earth, literally tells his newtype awakening to fuck off because it's hippie bullshit
>eats meat off the bone
>somehow survives conflict after conflict, eventually becomes a respected member of EFF society despite being a psychotic war criminal and treasoner who may very well be illiterate. Dies wealthy in luxury on earth
I challenge you to find a more based retard
Yazan is a fucking lunatic and it's crazy how out of everybody he's the one who survives and thrives. Australlian shitposter in space.
What a lad
>Steals the seat of the MC from the previous MC.
>Destroys Neo-Zeon unlike Titan posers.
>Bangs his girlfriend on the regular.
>Stands up to the military Chief of Staff and calls them retards.
>Energy so strong the main antagonist falls in love with him and spergs out when rejected.
>Confirmed to live over 100 years
>Creates an entire nation of Newtypes far away from Earth Federation and Zeomorons
>Gundam was the strongest for over several decades with no new upgrades and only broke down later in his life.
>Curbstomp the Zanscare Empire like it was nothing the first time he came into contact with them while being in his 100s in age terms.
garden gnomedough was a fun protagonist but he always came off a bit too wish fulfillment-y to me. You can really tell he was the first focus group'd gundam boy.
Also despite being strong ZZ is a hot mess visually. Looks badass as gump though
Still leagues better than most later gundam protagonists and he definitely fit ZZ's vibe in a god gives his silliest battles to his funniest clowns kind of way.
>War crimes schizo discovered anime
It's over
Is M.D. Geist the most based fictional soldier of all time?
>the original chaos space marine
I can dig it.
Tateo Nakame
>fights filthy gaijin
>upholds glory of emperor
>gives japanese merchant shipping a fighting chance
>utilizes innovative tactics to defeat materially superior opponents
Edward J. Richardson
>fights dirty tojos
>avenges fallen friends
>fixes US torpedoes
>sends his men below decks so they bear no responsibility for a necessary war crime
Bruh, Tanya isn't even a war criminal. The only controversial thing so far; the razing of the city of Arene, is perfectly legitimate.
Imma break this down.
The French gays have just smuggled an assload of guns to a French city behind German lines. They rile up the crowd to take up arms, lynch German garrison troops, and fuck up the railroads to cripple the front. (They also move in some magic regular soldiers, but that's digging too deep into things)
The point is, the fucking frogs armed a civilian uprising behind enemy lines, with the expectation that the fighting would impair supply lines, no matter that they couldn't reach the city in time to save anyone.
Tanya even offered terms of surrender/evacuation to the city, declaring anyone who'd remain as an enemy combatant.
This shit is a fucking warcrime in and of itself: trying to turn your own civilians into guerillas, even though the enemy is relatively benign in occupation terms.
>what is Warsaw uprising
Actually kind of fitting since partisans were a bleeding ulcer that helped lead to Germany’s total defeat
In Warsaw, Krauts were going full genocide and oppression. (Should have just done it after the war, if they really felt like it, tbh)
Arene was a benign occupation in WW1. Nothing to suggest the people had a reason to do an uprising besides "retarded nationalist chimpout".
Amusingly, "people are retards powered by emotional chimpouts" is basically the moral of the story. It starts with a salaryman getting murdered by an incompetent retard he fired, and ends with France refusing to accept defeat after getting their whole country occupied, and fucking off to the colonies to drag in the rest of the world out of pure nationalist sperg.
desu? The fuck is wrong with my autocorrect, lmao?
It's supposed to be "DESU".
Fucking newfag
That was actually the right thing to do IRL. The world was served well by prolonging the war since it lead to Germany being razed and dismembered
A powerful, brutal militaristic regime was too destabilizing
>In Warsaw, Krauts were going full genocide and oppression.
Found a picture of you.
Unless the civilians declare themselves loyal to the occupiers and willing to take action against their former countrymen they will always be hostile and natural guerillas.
>Tanya even offered terms of surrender/evacuation to the city, declaring anyone who'd remain as an enemy combatant.
That's not how it works.
Forced deportation of civilians is a war crime.
Treating civilians as combatants unless proven innocent is a war crime.
Technically, even if a particular civilian is known to be a member of guerilla organizations, you can't just kill him on the spot unless you catch him in action. He must be apprehended and stand trial.
this is set in a world that never had that written into the treaties on war law because it had never come up before. I am pretty sure it specifically says multiple times that all previous wars had pretty much been fought in big empty fields and barely touched civilians, especially nothing as big as a city
>it specifically says multiple times that all previous wars had pretty much been fought in big empty fields and barely touched civilians, especially nothing as big as a city
That's retarded.
IRL, armies raided villages, besieged cities, pillaged settlements, killed and raped civilians through the entire human history. You want me to think that people of this fantasy got to XXth century without ever doing that?
If there are laws of war, there are laws to protect civilians.
Some of the rules we have here from ww1 and the war Tanya is fighting in is their great war so the reactions to that war hasn’t happened yet
If there are no laws to protect civilians, there was no need to bother with justifications.
If there are, there's guaranteed to be a law saying you can't just proclaim all civilians in the city to be combatants unless they follow your arbitrary demands. Because if there isn't one, then there are no laws to protect civilians, you can just use this loophole 100% of the time.
Danny Archer is peak PrepHole.
Ja ja.
MD Geist, the most dangerous soldier. Man literally lives for battle.
Snowden, Milo Minderbender, Chief Halfoat, and Hungry Joe
Vancouver, from the novel Matterhorn. Vancouver is a nickname given to a Canadian volunteer in the USMC. He's over six feet tall, other Marines say things like "hey they've got John Wayne over here!" And stuff like that when they see him. He loves taking point with his M60, which he sawed off and welded a vertical forgrip to; illegal damage of USMC property, but nobody questions it because he's Vancouver, simple as. He mail orders a sword especially for killing morons and carries it with him, using it once his hands are too damaged to load his M60.
He's based on a real Canadian volunteer, can't remember his name.
I quite like Father Captain Federico de Soya and gregorius from the hyperion cantos
Martin Silenus is one of my favorite characters in all of literature.
I am the motherfucking shore patrol, motherfucker!! I am the motherfucking shore patrol! Give this man a beer!
>b-but I don't want a beer
You're gonna have a fuckin' beer!!
Maybe not a soldier, but a fascinating character nonetheless.
She is an empty, dead individual, initially more or less incapable of experiencing human relationships in anything but a transactional sense.
I think the series implies she doesn't even feel sexual attraction, using it merely as a tool to gain power over others.
The accumulation of wealth, and by extension power, seem to be her sole driving characteristics, even more so than self-preservation, even.
It would be easy to say she is reduced to not the feral mindset of an animal, or an unthinking robot.
But it would be folly to say she feels nothing.
She can hate, alright.
She hates the world and everyone in it.
She hates the cruel, indifferent criminals which surround her every waking moment just as much as she hates the undirtied masses who never experienced the horrors she did.
But most of all, I think, she hates herself, knowing she is every bit as shallow, vapid, vicious and power-hungry as that despised world which birthed her. Another rotten cog in a rotten machine.
The truth is she's still a battered little girl inside, her very soul subsumed by a bitter disappointment in the world and people around her, a disappointment which her stunted mind can only express through moments of enraged violence and hollow humor.
What interests me is why she stays in this world she hates so.
She is arguably extremely well paid for her services, and possesses connection which could free her from Roanapur to live in a place not cloaked in this evil.
Could it be that her bitterness and hatred has completely eradicated any hope of a life beyond the next pull of the trigger and slumped body?
Or perhaps she thinks she deserves this fate, that one as irredeemable and broken as herself has no place in a better world?
Truly interesting. Pity that most just use her as coom material.
Erwin and Levi are both incredibly based, way moreso than Erin who always has the "I instantly regenerate, explode everything around me and turn into a big monster that can kill everyone" crutch. They never even knew they weren't defending the last bastion of humanity.
I raise you one Luftwaffe pilot reincarnated into a distant future where humanity is ruled by gleep-glorp spacemorons so he had to awaken his ancestral Aryan warrior spirit-memories and raise the black flag to fight a doomed battle on behalf of humanity.
Kill bliggers, behead bliggers, roundhouse a blue monkey into the concrete, slam a bligger baby into a trash can, crucify filthy na’vi
>chud the evil
Cringe anime.
Garbage show enjoyed by people who unironically like GATE
I like Tanya because she's a villain. She's not your boring tranime protagonist but a cold blooded calculating commander willing to do whatever it takes to win. When you see her hit the field, her theme song is a villain song while her opponents typically have more heroic music
Everyone likes GATE (if you only count straight men)
Oh but GATE is great, it succesfully trolled so many fantasy-fags it deserves the golden kek, you only have to search youtube to see all of them seething and dilating under the excuse the plot was badly written ( it was, but who cares), I know scalies and "dragons trapped in a human body" fags must have spilt tears of rage when all those dragons got wiped out by heavy ordinance.
It defies every notion of good writing.
Storybuilding is built on conflict
GATE does not have this. It has the MCs showing up in a place and instantaneously destroying it through sheer, overwhelming firepower.
This is not conflict. It's like having Batman pulling out an anti-villainator and instantaneously winning every fight, without having to exert the slightest amount of struggle or develop as a character from hardship.
This is not to say that the premise itself is bad. I very much enjoy fantasy v. technology stuff.
But if the JSDF faced mysterious and magical forces which could not be expelled by high explosive and had to be interacted with through the use of clever tactics and strategy -shocking for a military story, I know - can you not agree this would not only be more interesting, but make them look cooler?
That, and
>the notion of Japan forcefully colonising a new place and being incredibly good and nice and lovely to its inhabitants while the US and China are evil is terribly ironic - in light of past historical events
and
>MC gets chosen as the de facto ambassador to fantasy-land because he played a lot of fantasy Gacha games on his phone
>It's like having Batman pulling out an anti-villainator and instantaneously winning every fight, without having to exert the slightest amount of struggle or develop as a character from hardship
No?
It would be like Batman easily annihilating street thugs due to his overwhelming skill and physical prowess
Now of course you can't just have that alone
I've forgotten a lot of the story but if it was all simply mowing down dudes in plate armor, then yeah that would be a bit of a problem, but I'm pretty sure there was some additional shit going on in addition to that
I think it'd be entertaining to see the bad guys be super ultra powerful demonlords, but also use hollywood tactics that make them super vulnerable.
>Level 69420 dark wizard commands his 50,000 terror knights with near-impenetrable hides and magic bows that that always hit there target and instantly kill whoever they hit sent to enslave demi-human village.
>Army of terror knights are in a dense side by side formation, allowing them to be easily encircled. Chainguns procede to light them up with API rounds as aircraft drop white phosphorus and thermite with impunity. Dark Wizard is spotted easily thanks to walking around in the open with scary suit. Hit by sniper bullet.
>Level 80139 Terror Mage gives his army total projectile protection and the JSDF are out of incendiary rounds!
>JSDF set up camp in the middle of Valley
>When the army comes to attack, the sides of the mountains at the entrance are dynamited, causing a massive landslide to consume them.
>Survivors squished or Truck-kun'd