For those of you who use the the WD-40 of the gun world, what form you get it in? Do you get the wipes, the spray, or the straight liquid?
Also, firearm upkeep general, I guess.
For those of you who use the the WD-40 of the gun world, what form you get it in? Do you get the wipes, the spray, or the straight liquid?
Also, firearm upkeep general, I guess.
wd-40 is not a lubricant.
It is, it's just not a very good one. Same as ballistol really. Jack of all trades, master of none.
Hoppes and break free CLP are much better than wd40 or ballistol
Who cares? They’re toxic, ballistol isn’t. If you don’t live in a swamp then ballistol is sufficient.
Ballistol us just as toxic
Ballistol
>"white oil" mineral oil
TheWorld Health Organizationclassifies mineral oils asgroup 1 carcinogensto humans.
>oleic acid
Safe enough
>more mineral oil
See white oil
>Potassium Oleate
H315 (16.65%): Causes skin irritation [WarningSkin corrosion/irritation]
H319 (99.83%): Causes serious eye irritation [WarningSerious eye damage/eye irritation]
INHALATION OF DUST CAUSES IRRITATION OF NOSE & THROAT, COUGHING, & SNEEZING. INGESTION CAUSES IRRITATION OF MOUTH & STOMACH. CONTACT WITH EYES CAUSES IRRITATION.
>ammonium Oleate
H315 (23.78%): Causes skin irritation [WarningSkin corrosion/irritation]
H319 (48.17%): Causes serious eye irritation [WarningSerious eye damage/eye irritation]
H335 (23.78%): May cause respiratory irritation [WarningSpecific target organ toxicity, single exposure; Respiratory tract irritation]
H412 (51.83%): Harmful to aquatic life with long lasting effects [Hazardous to the aquatic environment, long-term hazard]
>benzyl alcohol
H302: Harmful if swallowed [WarningAcute toxicity, oral]
H332: Harmful if inhaled [WarningAcute toxicity, inhalation]
Inhalation of vapor may cause irritation of upper respiratory tract. Prolonged or excessive inhalation may result in headache, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. In severe cases, respiratory stimulation followed by respiratory and muscular paralysis, convulsions, narcosis and death may result. Ingestion may produce severe irritation of the gastrointestinal tract, followed by nausea, vomiting, cramps and diarrhea; tissue ulceration may result. Contact with eyes causes local irritation. Material can be absorbed through skin with anesthetic or irritant effect.
>amyl alchohol
H315 (100%): Causes skin irritation [WarningSkin corrosion/irritation]
H332 (100%): Harmful if inhaled [WarningAcute toxicity, inhalation]
H335 (100%): May cause respiratory irritation [WarningSpecific target organ toxicity, single exposure;
Isobutyl Alcohol
H315: Causes skin irritation [WarningSkin corrosion/irritation]
H318: Causes serious eye damage [DangerSerious eye damage/eye irritation]
H335: May cause respiratory irritation [WarningSpecific target organ toxicity, single exposure; Respiratory tract irritation]
H336: May cause drowsiness or dizziness [WarningSpecific target organ toxicity, single exposure; Narcotic effects]
>Benzyl Acetate
H412 (92.32%): Harmful to aquatic life with long lasting effects [Hazardous to the aquatic environment, long-term hazard]
Harmful if inhaled. May be harmful if swallowed or absorbed through the skin. Vapor or mist is irritating to the eyes, mucous membrane and upper respiratory tract.
>Anethole
H317 (97.26%): May cause an allergic skin reaction
ACUTE/CHRONIC HAZARDS: Toxic. (NTP, 1992)
>Isohexane (only in the arisol)
H304: May be fatal if swallowed and enters airways [DangerAspiration hazard]
H340: May cause genetic defects [DangerGerm cell mutagenicity]
H350: May cause cancer [DangerCarcinogenicity]
Inhalation causes irritation of respiratory tract, cough, mild depression, cardiac arrhythmias. Aspiration causes severe lung irritation, coughing, pulmonary edema; excitement followed by depression. Ingestion causes nausea, vomiting, swelling of abdomen, headache, depression.
>TheWorld Health Organizationclassifies mineral oils asgroup 1 carcinogensto humans.
People have used food grade mineral oil for years on chopping blocks and cutting boards. You're just arguing to win, not because you even believe what you post.
>a chopping block soaked with it where it polymerizes with wood fibers and stays in the wood is the same as drinking/breathing it
Lol, lmao
Now link the non-aerosoled version.
That is the non arisol, the only difference between the liquid and the arisol is the isohexane.
>World Health Organization
don't forget to get boosted fellow redditors
ya clean your guns with it, homie, not bathe in it every day
>Who cares? They’re toxic
Irrelevant, I'm not eating it or slathering myself in it.
>ballistol isn’t.
Normal ballistol is toxic as well, though they do make a special product which is safety rated for incidental food contact. It looks like picrel. Is that what you're using?
Yes, yes. I know it's in the same. It's also mildly penetrating, and I have used it before to get a front sight out a dovetail. So it is a lubricant in practice, if not in name.
The wipes seem like a huge ripoff to me, you get so little of the product for your money, and it is limited in how it can be used. Get the spray. You can spray it of course, or you can apply just a tiny bit to a patch or a rag and now you have a wipe. You can spray it into a cup if you need a lot of it, say for soaking something in. You can use the spray "straw" for precision application.
Straight liquid and I reuse a hand powered spray head.
Cumlube beats the hitler spray.
Wish they'd put the MSDS sheets underneath these so I can find one that doesn't cause cancer when vaporized off of an AR BCG.
So far I've looked up balistol and breakfast CLP.
Both are toxic if drank, balistol ahs more cancer causing shit, breakages only toxic ingredient can be harmful if inhaled, but it's chemical makeup males me think it mostly breaks into harmless byproducts when heated
Maybe I'll look at wd40 and hoppes but I'm not doing the whole list
Ballistol has white mineral oil (food grade is edible), oleac acid salts (used in makeup) and benzyl acetate which has an LD50 of roughly 2.5g per kilo.
Doesn't breakfree CLP still have PTFE in it?
The only hazard shown in breakfree clp is 1-Decene, dimer, hydrogenated
If it's teflon, I don't care if it's on a MSDS. You don't want it anywhere near your face if the temps climb over 350C.
Yeah, if your gun parts are getting to 662°f, you're having worse problems, like the firefight you're in.
Bud, what temp do you think the gas unlocking your BCG measures at? I guess just hope you never have to swap shoulders and shoot around a left corner.
And the high heat conductivity of the metal will disperse the heat energy, dropping the temperature instantly.
Lrn2thermodynamics.
If your reciver is getting to 662°, you will start having rounds cook off randomly, and your gas tube will probably fail any moment.
Not only that, there's no proof that chronic exposure to PTFE vapor does anything to humans health wise, its just conspiracy bullshit in the same veign as fluoride melting your brain and 5g towers causing sickness
>dropping the temperature instantly
> Lrn2thermodynamics
Oh the fricking irony. I have layer of oil on my bolt and inside the BCG after every cleaning. If you want to tell me that isn't coming into contact with 700F+ gasses out the gas tube, okay. Cool story, bro.
And even if it is, the oil isn't getting to that temperature without the BCG reaching that temperature first.
Stop being dumb
Haha, interestingly enough, primer compound auto-ignition temperature is exactly the same as Teflon breakdown temperature, 662°f.
So if your BCG is hot enough to start off gassing PTFE from a lubricant, you are about to have some interesting mechanical issues with your firearm.
Ok, so far it seems in order of most toxic to least toxic
>wd40
>hoppes gun oil
>ballistol
>breakfree CLP
Looked up corrosion-x, I'd about tied with hoppes
>corrosion-x
>H317 May cause allergic skin reaction
May the worst product for EDC
I have sensitive skin, I use hand made b***h soaps and CorrosionX doesnt bother me. Just one example but I also dont over lube the outside of the firearm unless its in storage.
>you could also just use CorrosionX on critical inside parts and mineral oil your gun on the outside as no chemical laden oil would be technically safe on skin
Ballistol gays just keep losing.
Just get the big can, it goes on sale pretty frequently midway/brownells. Cost me 8 doll hairs, got such a deal I covered my porch anvil in it.
Liquid. You can mix it with hot water to deep clean parts and remove cosmoline and it won't cause rust if you mix it properly. There are better products for certain applications but Ballistol is a good "do it all" because you can clean just about anything metal related with it. It protects the finish, lubes your bolt carrier, dissolves carbon fouling in your barrel, and you can also apply it to wood and leather to keep that in good shape. I even cleaned and lubed the locks and door hinges in my house with it. I've used it on nearly every firearm I own. Pistols, milsurp, AKs, ARs, bolt actions, and shotguns. Its extremely versatile
Get eezox
Makes cancer, way worse than other gun oils
Oh that's the most toxic one I've looked up so far.
Trichloroethane is the same cancer shit thy put in fox OC spray lol
Big 400ml spray can. Ballistol is the best and cheap (at least here in Europe) as a bonus.
>The Toothbrush
Anon......
Fear not, anon. Eventually you buy a new one for your teeth.
Yes. It's important to brush.
So it seems like:
>Breakfree CLP is probably less toxic and a better rust preventative than Ballistol (probably only matters if you sweat like a pig and/or are in a humid state)
>Ballistol is still useful as a light lubricant/protectant and is good to have on hand for wood stocks/grips, plus leather if your holster's made out of it
Where does Hoppes fall into this? More specifically, does the No. 9 formula clean better than Ballistol or Breakfree, and does it prevent rust better than either? Does the Hoppes lube work better than Ballistol or Breakfree?
I feel like breakfree cleans as good as No 9, and I feel like ballistol is the worst cleaner and protectant of the 3.
Frick, and I replied to you so many times.
Doesn't matter what you use. It's all the same.
Where'd all the spammers go who talk about cooking with ballistol and drinking it?
Nobody cooks with gun oil. Especially not one flavored with anise or whatever the frick thwy put in ballistol. I won't use it tonremove rust off old kitchen knives because off the smell smell off.
I will use food grade mineral oil though. You could probably even use that as a simple gunnlube, but you'd want a solvent to break up soot.
>nobody cooks with gun lube
Froglube superiority wins again!
Isn't it mostly coconut oil?
Froglube mojito, anyone?
ah, here you are
>the WD 40 of the gun world
Works like shit and is toxic.
Checks out
I like the wipes for convenience, but I also have the oil bottle. Never used the spray but i'm sure it's fine.
BALLISTOL HERRENRASSE
I get the spray bottles for 10 bucks each where im at
FP-10/weapon shield > CLP >meme flavor of the week (eezox fireclean etc)> ballistol
>hurr durr muh cold weather
graphite or marvel mystery oil you frick
Ballistol is based. Used it for years and never had a speck of rust. Now I use Ballistol as a general CLP, Clenzoil as lubricant and renaissanse wax for rust protection on the exterior.
pump spray