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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/qEilaIg.jpg

      The decor really match the building itself, both the ammo and the warehouse looks like a dump from the 70's. I hope the ukies detonate the place and make a cool video about it going into the stratosphere.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nah. Make it a historical site, showing one of the times Russia fricked up.

        Let it be a monument to Vatnik shame.

        We all know there will be a TON of historical sites post-war to see.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/qEilaIg.jpg

      not
      one
      single
      pallet

      I honestly thought it was just a joke from the early weeks of the war, but this is just sad. Apart from the METAL BAWKSES this stuff looks like it would stack nicely on any pallet

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/oFZxnu3.png

        Moving by hand builds physique.
        And private Conscriptovich has something to do. That means he does not have time to do something moronic.

        maybe these little wooden things are their version of pallets?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          how are they supposed to move all this shit with a pallet jack or a forklift? theres no way to put the forks into those wooden things, i dont even know what the purpose of them is

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            dunno, they seem to be somewhat standardized for insertion of some sort. maybe they have some strange off spec pallet jack over in russia?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              yeah but where? ive yet to see one, and why would you use a specialized jack for only one type of pallet instead of a standardized commercial forklift.

              Keeps them off the ground in case of water.

              this is my suspicion as well, but that would mean they moved all those heavy ass crates one by one, its legitimately absurd to think they would operate like this, a pump jack isn't even expensive or difficult to transport with the rest of your supplies and it makes resupply much faster because you don't have to spend hours doing it by hand

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                didn't soviet russia have their own weird standard for everything that sets them apart from the world outside of soviet bloc?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but they agreed to the world standard for pallets.
                However, they only used it in international harbors and nowhere else.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Keeps them off the ground in case of water.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Forklifts are an ISIS-HATO feint trying to reduce conscriptovich gainz

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/odZ3hnR.jpg

          >The Russian fears NATO's greatest wunderwaffe

          Can someone pls explain the pallet meme?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            The rest of the world uses pallets because it lets you use forklifts. Russia literally stacks everything by hand. That amount of ammo could be moved by two forklifts in 20 minutes and a 3 person crew by the rest of the world. For Russia, it would take 20 men hours to do.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              "Doing it by hand keeps le Soldaty in shape" said some Rusky general somewhere.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Russian military can't into forklifts. Which is surprising because when I was growing up in that shithole and had to work construction to survive, we had forklifts. They even let me, a 16-year-old, drive it sometimes.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Forlifts are the boring background instead of flashy superweapons that will destroy west for just the small price of XX billion rubles. In Russian military the most important measure apparently was "can it impress Putin". You can't parade a forklift (well you can, since they can move but that would look too ridiculous) so it doesn't get invested in.
              Compare that to business which actually has to make money.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You can't parade a forklift (well you can, since they can move but that would look too ridiculous)
                This year's Bastille Day military parade in paris had engineering equipment like loaders, dozers and telehandler forklifts loaded on flatbed trucks paraded around.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Pierre shitposting with a military parade
                actually, I'm impressed

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >The french do it.
                Of course le ridicule ne tue pas.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I hope Ukraine does parade them along with tractors after this war

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                To add on to this point there is a decent chance the forklifts you saw working in construction were originally owned by the military. Literally anything they have that can be sold will be, with items useful in the civilian world being top priority since you can just sell them off to your family without any intermediaries like trying to pawn autocannon shells

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Reminds of him

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You can't parade a forklift (well you can, since they can move but that would look too ridiculous)
                More ridiculous than your latest super tank breaking down and having to be towed off the parade, with the whole world looking on?
                idontthinksotim.jpg

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Why waste money on forklifts, when you have conscripts?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Additionally, you can't rape a forklift.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Is that a challenge?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                dragon_fricking_car.webm

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not with that attitude.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Big if true.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Soviet/Russian economy might have been bit less moronic than it has reputation for. Soviet/Russian military on the other hand had endless supply of conscripts to exploit in more than one way. Pocket the budget for forklift and use 40 conscripts for loading work while they should be participating in actual training and as bonus send 5 more conscripts work as rent a boys in the town.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Your reading comprehension must be dogshit because I hadn’t heard of the meme until I got into this thread and was able to understand it from the get go

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            This is legit one of my favorite pictures ever. It's so good. So many layers

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I believe this is called "Dunnage" and it's simply to prevent the wooden boxes from soaking up moisture from the ground if there is any around.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          no, they are just small wooden spacers a size of a cardboard box. They are there just to get the good off the damp ground.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >1680
        Number of rounds?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          yes.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I want two.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Year of production

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    god I wish this was my house

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I wish I was your neighbor.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ooooh, you could build a fort out of ammo crates!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The last two digits after xx-x-, is almost always the production year, so box 533-9-73 means factory no.533 or lot number made in 1973, lol almost 50yrs old, also that particular box has PG-15VS (ПГ-15BC) in it, see here https://bsvt.by/en/strelkovoe-vooruzhenie-i-boepripasy/artillery-rounds/73mm-vystrely-pg15vs, so thats whats in some of the ammo boxes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      These crates contain the 73mm rounds for bmp/d's 1 grom cannon or spg 9 .

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Ammo for guns from 1965

        yeah that makes sense

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/JYf5uQU.jpg

        You have to be kidding me. Why the frick are they deploying BMP-1s STILL? They were considered obsolete in Afghanistan.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It might actually be for SPG-9 recoilless rifles. The Russians still issue them to motorized units as company support weapons. And if you think the BMP-1's main gun is obsolete, wait until you see the non-self-propelled version.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Why the frick are they deploying BMP-1s STILL
          Both sides still have lots of them.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They even stacked it nicely for the Ukrainians. Could've dusted the crates though.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is there one projectile in these crates?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No, the Russians neatly stacked a bunch of empty crates. Totally normal and expected Russian behavior.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        L9l

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be dense, he meant "Is there only one shell per crate".

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/JYf5uQU.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/tukIiBA.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/snqXCXq.jpg

      What is the tactical advantage of leaving ARSENAL FULL OF AMMO behind?

      how old is that stuff?
      do they still use wooden boxes? isn't that unnecessary heavy compared to plastic?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are you trusting vatniks to be able to make plastic? Wood grows by itself.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >how old is that stuff?
        between 30 and 40 years. These are from the old system where they would put the year in the middle instead of last.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        made in 1977.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        US military uses wooden boxes still too for overpack

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          They always look so happy together. i feel they would be a cute couple in different circumstance.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You think they finger a suck each other in the bunker?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >implying they aren't

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              How come these manly men are as smooth as a feminine twink?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                old men, so they probably have the test levels of a 10 year old girl

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            is that a Tesla?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They also can't into pallets and forklifts so don't be surprised they're using wooden boxes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They even left the washing machines?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        underrated post

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yup.

        Though after this war, Ukrainians will never want for washing machines ever again.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          but they were the ukrainian's washing machines to begin with

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Kek

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          During the Kiev rout we saw bottles of looted alcohol that were abandoooned. That's when you know it's really bad. No Slav would every willingly part with alcohol.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Ivan running so fast he had to leave his vodka
            I find it rather telling that this is the hardest part to believe.
            I'll believe it though, because it's hilarious.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They probably finished them and filled them with piss.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      whats in those metal boxes on the right?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        demolition charges

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        SPEHS MUHREENS

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >the fabled pallets
      >they were here all along

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What are these? It looks like the blocks on the ground are what's contained inside them, but what are they?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Unscented Soap, is being for hygiene

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Keys of coke.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Armored washing machines

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I also want to know

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        My uncle, soviet era tank driver, says they're crates of high explosives. They're in metal boxes like that so that they can't be detonated or damaged by bad handling or road accidents

        also very hard to steal and will give you cancer if you use them for anything so you only find them around army bases

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's cool

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the metal cans are there to prevent static electricity, also the cans are usually put in wooden casks for transportation.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Demolition charges. The ones we use are 20kg blocks

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i thought those were looted washing machines stacked storeys high in the thumbnail kek

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it could be salted
    having your enemy doubt his gear is an underrated advantage

    if the ukies are smart, they'd just scrap the whole arsenal

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If I was a Ukrainian officer I'd probably be on social media offering to send it back to them.
      "Hey, you guys left your antiques when you moved out!"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I dont think the vatniks had time to rig much of anything. They got ran over pretty hard

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      While I doubt they sabotaged the stuff, as they were basically chased out, I'd not trust a single shell in that pile, as russian gear might just blow into your face. That shit looks older than my father

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        got to say Russia really knows how to cheer up a American.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Source?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://twitter.com/mbk_center/status/1559808507763126273
          learn how to use google anon-chama

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe the Russian occupiers should stop raping Ukrainian children first.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this is what happens when your forces are utterly demoralized and not ready for combat whatsoever

      the retreat was too quick, doubt they had the time to salt all these crates in that time

      plus ukraine has enough shells rn, the actual loss here is russia losing the shells that they are wasting on random buildings

      russia has been using their arty so ineffectively, i remember how in spring they were already using shells with messages for the residents of grozny to surrender

      utter chaos

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Salting is not very common. The same situation as how bright obvious personal identification stripes ends up over camo. The salted ammo is usually kept or stays too close to one's own side creating a too compelling friendly fire or self-contaminate risk.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >implying its some Russian masterplan instead of just shitty QC

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    what the FRICK kind of pallets are those?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      as discussed in another thread - basically cargo cult pallets. completely missing the point of what pallets do

      pallets genuinely appear beyond Russia's technical capability

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        they aren't "cargo cult"
        they are there simply to prevent water damage from moisture from the ground.
        I mean look at that roof. that shit is obviously leaking and creating puddles all over the floor

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          In America, it's a common strategy to put pallets down at a rental storage unit for the same purpose.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but if you know what you're doing you can create a platform which both keeps things off the wet, dirty ground AND aids in the ease of movement and transport.
          IF you know what you're doing.
          t.John Frum

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Bah, such sorcery is pure fiction and exists only in minds of writers and poets. Like anally virginal conscript or unstolen diesel.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Im sure there are plenty of AIDS even without pallets, anon

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Spacers. Easier to pick off the ground by hand, but not for forklifts and such. Also to keep them away from ground-level puddles.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      as discussed in another thread - basically cargo cult pallets. completely missing the point of what pallets do

      pallets genuinely appear beyond Russia's technical capability

      Spacers. Easier to pick off the ground by hand, but not for forklifts and such. Also to keep them away from ground-level puddles.

      they are fricking dunnage racks. DUNNAGE RACKS.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      former soviet ammunition and weaponry storage facility. As russians took it from pigs back then they got some thousand tonnes of the old and new ammunition. pigs are pretending they took it back but publish only old photos and empty boxes. looks like russians cleaned the whole storage up and pigs will suck some dicks now.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, russian are such pigs haha

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They are Dunnage - spacers to allow ventilation.
      Pre-pallet ammo storage technology to lift the bottom layer of boxes off the floor.
      Then the West moved to pallets and MHE in the mid 1940s.
      >russian logistics are 80years behind

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    unironically the same vibe as early syrian civil war with army depots getting overran and shown as ghanimah

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >No pallets

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine the poor shmucks who had to stack all that shit by hand, only to leave it behind like this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think they were very happy to leave it behind. "We can run so much faster without carrying that and the odds of being targeted for death-from-above are diminished!" Being in munitions logistics isn't fun in a war where there is no safe rear area to hide in.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Post war surplus to be shipped to America to repay the billions we've sent

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      We're not that lucky. I miss the days of cheap Golden Tiger...

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Please God let it all be 7.62 and 5.45.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >not knowing steel core ammo is banned in america.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >not knowing steel core ammo is banned in america.
        Yeah

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          want to come to my gun meetup anon? We're all very excited to meet you!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >steel core ammo is banned in america.
          im fairly certain this is bait, because that's plain moronic, but no.. no it is not.
          I can go on Fuddbroker right now and buy some lovely chink steel core 7.62
          or buy brand new Lake city M855a1

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Steel core is banned at indoor ranges because
        >oof owie my backstop
        It's totally fine outdoors though.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's russian so it's steal core actually

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >be a vatnik fork driver
    >ordered to load these into trucks before hohols overrun your position
    >line it up nicely at front but some other vodka laden schmuck positioned it wrong at the back
    >crates fall off the makeshift pallets
    >get sent into Siberia

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      > vatBlack person fork driver
      lmao, it's all done by hand

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >vatnik fork driver
      No such thing
      Pallets and fork lifts are space age sorcery to vatniks.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        this is no-shit truth. you just know they had some conscripts unload all this shit by hand just to give it to the Ukrainians LMFAO

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    easy : arsenal never existed in the first place. in fact, it was the hohol pile blown up 4 weeks ago

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Except it literally is a hohol pile.

      Balakliya was one of the largest Ukrainian ammunition depots before it was captured by Russian and Allied forces in April.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Balakliya was one of the largest Ukrainian ammunition depots

        it was not. the biggest one is in Dnepropetrovsk and Poltava.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          he said
          >one of the largest

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Allied forces
        you meant axis forces

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Russia is literally allied with the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics but go off.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics
            who?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            sockpuppets don't count
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Democratic_Republic

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >sockpuppets don't count
              Wrong.

              Free France was more of a sockpuppet during WW2 than DNR and LNR are in the current conflict but it was still counted as a part of Allied forces.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                amazing dishonesty, you must work for the CIA

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nah. CIA shits on Russia. This is FSB.
                You can also tell because he's moronic.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    But where are the pallets? Are you sure that is actually an arsenal and not someone's uncle's garage?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >But where are the pallets?
      They disassociate items from pallets at the train depots for some godforsaken reason. Either the pallets are at the train depots being used for frick all or they're sent back with the trains. Cause the goods come in on pallets. That's actually been confirmed.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not having to move it again, obviously

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      once they have to move them, all that shits gets moved into a truck by hand, and by hand exclusively. that's it. forklift is a star trek tech for russians

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    AND NO FRICKING PALLETS ANYWHERE!
    FRICKING BUNCH OF TROLLS!
    HOPE THE RUSSIANS WILL BE STEAM-FRICK'N-ROLLED!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What are there "Pallets" you speak of?
      Some new American Wunderwaffe?

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "We don't believe in gay pallets, we use manly soviet 'spacers' and use strong muscle to stack ammo blyat"

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Moving by hand builds physique.
    And private Conscriptovich has something to do. That means he does not have time to do something moronic.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >That means he does not have time to do something moronic.
      , moving crates by hand is hard, time for smoke break

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Igor has also made drink from rasins, bread, and brake fluid.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >peco and chep pallets
      >at the same time
      Not only can NATO afford to use pallets they even spring for the Rolls Royce and Bentley of pallets.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Oryx just got a heart attack

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This was probably the smartest move the Russian high command has ever accomplished in the war and it was a complete accident. Now Ukraine has to move all that shit without pallets lmao.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Without pallets

      Ukraine will just order a frickton from the West, as well as forklifts and other MODERN technology

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i wish i had all those bullets id be shooting every day haha

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who left more behind? Russia in ukraine or America in Afghanistan?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >America in Afghanistan
      By far.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      America left an entire armed force's worth of gear in Afghanistan

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The thing is tho the American MIC is so OP it's neither that much of a loss to them, whilst simultaneously requiring high maintenance costs for the taliban rendering most of it increasingly useless beyond 1 or 2 frankensteined trophy pieces cobbled together from stripping the rest. Russian kit is both precious to the Russians as they genuinely can't afford to keep throwing it away, whilst also being easily used by the ukrainians

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Right to Repair is a boon to the enemy

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Most big commercial and industrial vehicles and equipments are sold by the manufacturer on the premise that they'll be worth just as much to the company in spares, servicing, and repair charges as they get in profit from the sale ticket cost. I have no doubt that in Iraq and Afghanistan where the US had the regimes over a barrel that half the military hardware was sold/donated to them on the premise that US companies would get to sell them spares for the next 20 years

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Russia should call the police because Ukraine Is stealing their boxes.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Their rear echelon troops wont be turned into ash when HIMARs detonates it, checkmate ukrops

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No pallets? Well all this shit is useless then, better pile it up and blow it to pieces.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Gosh, it was real nice of those Russians to stack that ammo so neatly for them too.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    russian soldiers put booby traps inside people's houses when they left the north... but they don't when abandoning an entire fricking ammo depot.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They were retreating so fast that the ukrainians couldn't even keep up while attacking.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It means the SMOOKER has been left behind enemy lines, with one last mission to accomplish

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Like in vietnam you can leave a couple of super hot bullets to catastrophically take out enemy weapons.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If the Ukrainians have been loosing thousands of fighters a day, like Russia claims, I don't think a handful of self correcting AK's will be all that catastrophic

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ohoho! Lookit the cute little PALLETS!

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >cheap ammo and aks in europe again
    Frick yes. Just like after yugo war.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Check it all first Ukraine. It's Vatnik ammo. Never know what's safe to use.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine spends 6 months mobilizing and you eventually get overrun by new mechanized brigades

    What a clown fest

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >new
      93 and 92 are anything but new anon, they are some of the most storied units the ukies have

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm guessing it would be prudent of the Ukrainians to move the ammunition as quickly as possible, given that the Russians know where it is, and still have weapons that would be able to hit them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno. It looks neat but that's not a big amount of explosives. How much explosives do you waste taking it out, considering the precision of Russian arty? They had the chance to throw in a few fuses when they left it, now it's probably becoming a low priority as they are pushed away.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >The Russian fears NATO's greatest wunderwaffe

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Not EPAL certified
      chinkshit

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any artillery shells in there tho? That's what the Ukies need the most. The soviet era artillery needs to be fed.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have stayed up all night and can't believe how it still gets worse every hour

    those boxes stacked twice as high as the soldier in the background give me strong liveleak vibes

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cumed

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how people are making fun of Russia. Even when the U.S. just spent 20 years in Afghanistan and 11 in Vietnam. Killing Millions of people and leaving when the war wasn't even justified. No weapons of mass destruction and little evidence of the Guld of Tokin. Russia now has 20% of Ukraine, that's 20% they didn't have before. That's pretty good for 7months compared to the U.S. spending 20years in Afghanistan killing Innocent people and spending our own soilders in as cannon fodder. It doesn't matter I though Ukraine is 'perfect', sanction's work, and we are perfect.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How did the Soviet Union do in Afghanistan again? How did China do in Vietnam?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That was towards the end of the USSR. When Yeltsen and Grobochov were destroying the county and dismantling the military. And the U.S. is supposed to be the most power nation in the world but they did the same as Russia in Afghanistan. At least they didn't leave nearly a trillion dollars in weapons.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >And the U.S. is supposed to be the most power nation in the world
          Power doesn't mean shit, that's the point. You can try to pound liberal democracy into people's heads as hard as you can, but you can't make them accept it. Afghanistan was a military success, but ONLY a military success. The half-assed nationbuilding of building schools but drone striking weddings was an abysmal failure.
          We should have left after Bin Laden bit the dust and called it a day.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Afghanistan was a military success

            holy kek

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Unironically yes. US is great at war [and propping up shit regimes] but sucks ass at peace [again, picking shit regimes to be the 'good guys' after the US leaves]

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                yeah when you can just bomb the shit outta someone without 20th century defenses you sure look like your good at war. But they arent good because they were driven out in the end. they had a lead and lost.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                US wasn't driven out by force, it left because Biden wanted to score approval points by yoinking out everybody ASAP. Then the pedo warlords we shilled for and pumped a bajillion taxpayer dollars into propping up instantly surrendered because the US government is fricking awful at picking their allies. Rememer, they advocated for the Khmer Rouge of all people just to spite Vietnam.
                Honestly, as a burger, I say that's even worse than actually being beaten in war.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >US wasn't driven out by force
                really doesnt matter, they outpaced and fatigued the USA. afghans knew how this kind of war is fought and lasted for 20+ years. All wars in this region are fought this way. Generations of fighters kicking foreigners out.

                same idea people have in ukraine about russia:
                >enough casualties and the public will go crazy

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Asymmetric warfare is what you do when you cannot fight on equal terms. Guerrilla war is what you do when you can't directly engage the enemy without being defeated. Attrition is what you resort to when you can't win a war of maneuver.
                And a generation-long, grinding war of attrition where the losses are heavily weighted against you is something you only attempt if you have literally no other options.
                After 20 years of struggle, blood, and misery the Taliban's multi-generational guerilla campaign inflicted a defeat on the United States which made the average American say "man, Biden's fricking up" before they went back to whatever they were doing. How people interpret this as "haha the US military sucks" is something I don't understand

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you go to war to win, bottom line.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                50 IQ take

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Kiev would like a word with you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Under whose administration was the Doha Agreement signed again? That same administration that halved US troops and released thousands of Taliban prisoners right before the next administration took over.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The USA is great at making and creating peace. I'm here in Ireland and the USA did a fantastic thing by getting the Good Friday Agreement ending violence in Northern Ireland and opened a lot of big employers here. Americans are alright with me. Not so Russians who tried their best to keep violence going here and bankrolling violent extremists and would be dictators. The USA is far from perfect, the state department should never have been funding pro-abortion campaigns in other nations or classifying sexual identity politics as human rights and stopped executing people itself but no one is perfect. Russia and the Soviet Union and its supporters though, now that was evil in the world.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Went to Afghanistan.
                Spent trillions.
                Ran away.
                ????
                Great at war.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                please just have a nice day

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You need to accept reality. Not hate people for pointing out the truth. It's better for your mental health.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And you need to let irony hit you already, it stopped being funny like 2 posts ago.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not trying to amuse you.
                I understand you may not like what went down in Afghanistan, but lying about it doesn't help. It also prevents you from learning from your mistakes. Just be at peace with it.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lol LMAO

          The USSR military was ALWAYS like this! Just listen to literally any experience report by guys serving with Russian soldiers back in the day, almost all of them will confirm you that even in the 70s Russian soldiers would laze about all day, just pretending to do their maintenance and sell fuel and ammo for food and cigs.

          My family is East German and even my grandpa had the same experience in the 60s, my dad in the 80s.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >they did the same as Russia in Afghanistan
          no, the soviet war in afghanistan was much more brutal. afghan population declined by 10% while the soviets were there. they must have killed a lot of people and destroyed tons of infrastructure.

          meanwhile during american occupation the afghan population doubled in size.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >At least they didn't leave nearly a trillion dollars in weapons.
          Isn’t the predominant weapon in Afghanistan to this day the AK?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I gather China gave Vietnam a good drubbing

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          It was basically what's going on now. Giant country thinks it can easily bully smaller neighbor, misunderestimates them big time. Cue Chang cope
          >we didn't NEED to free Cambodia
          >MISSION ACCOMPRISHED
          But since it's Asia nobody wants to admit how many people actually died

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >misunderestimates them
            The frick kind of language do you speak

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And then Vietnam taught China a lesson. haha

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/LoU0Yno.jpg

          It was basically what's going on now. Giant country thinks it can easily bully smaller neighbor, misunderestimates them big time. Cue Chang cope
          >we didn't NEED to free Cambodia
          >MISSION ACCOMPRISHED
          But since it's Asia nobody wants to admit how many people actually died

          I thought Ch*na got absolutely MOGGED by Vietnam. At least that's the summary of that greentext recounting post-WWII's Ch*na's pathetic track record in war, mentioning notable events like Mao's intended successor getting turned into fried pork via napalm in Korea.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They did. Since they were slaughtered in the field they've alternated between pretending the war never happened and pretending that they won

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Remind me again? Who killed between 500,000 and 2,000,000 Afghan civilians?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Russia sustained more casualties in 3 months in Ukraine than whole of NATO in Iraq and Afghanistan combined in 20 years

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Friendly reminder that Russia suffers from the same issues as the USSR: being fricking cheap and putting that cash into their own pockets instead of where it should go. There's a reason the vodka drinking fricks in Moscow nearly irradiated all of Europe because one of their damn reactors blew.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >what about america
      >our
      >we
      I wonder who could be behind this post

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Black person you lost the same amount of men in Ukraine in 6 FRICKING MONTHS that we did in Vietnam in 13 FRICKING YEARS (yes I count the first US death in Vietnam as the start of US deaths, 1960)

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    russia blew up an ammo dump yesterday, this wasn't it was it?

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Rusnigs were THAT sure that they'd be able to hold it

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Planned withdrawal

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Two more pictures, supposedly from an abandoned arsenal in Izyum

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What's that brown cylinder with a pointy stick coming out of it?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm pretty sure it's some sort of a brown cylinder with a pointy stick coming out of it. Although I must admit I'm no expert on brown cylinders with a pointy stick coming out of them.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          125mm sabot by the looks of it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what is the toppled machine?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/n0uxpvs.jpg

      https://i.imgur.com/snqXCXq.jpg

      What is the tactical advantage of leaving ARSENAL FULL OF AMMO behind?

      could russia just kalibr it's abandoned ammo dumps since they know the location?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >point at ammo depot
        >hit the daycare two blocks away

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >kalibr

        I guess. If they have 800-1200 missiles per dump (emphasis on miss).

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >since they know the location
        That's the problem, they most likely don't.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >why, what do you mean you aren't prepared to precision bomb our own ammo dumps at moments notice?? I'll have your head for this

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So….question. Why is everything in Ukraine such a dirty, unkempt shitpile?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because the Russians were there just minutes ago.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's a post soviet shithole and like all post soviet shitholes, anywhere between 20-40% of the population doesn't have access to running water

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >anywhere between 20-40% of the population doesn't have access to running water

        Maybe 30 years ago that was correct.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Post commie urban decay, you can see it all over the Eastern bloc.

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine owns this arsenal before the war but the shit is so old/can't use it
    >Russia invades, captures and sees this, they cant use it either
    >Ukraine takes back area - takes moto pic of arsenal

    shit prolly hasn't been moved since the 60s

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/snqXCXq.jpg

      What is the tactical advantage of leaving ARSENAL FULL OF AMMO behind?

      This is the same arsenal that exploded under mysterious circumstances in 2017. At the time it was thought to be a simple accident, or an attempt to cover up stolen hardware, but now it’s universally believed to be a Russian op. It contained those exact 152mm soviet shells Ukraine was so desperately missing in this was.

      https://en.hromadske.ua/posts/balakliya-special-report

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What is the tactical advantage of leaving ARSENAL FULL OF AMMO behind?
    You don't get killed trying to defend it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You don't get blown up because you're anywhere near it when it gets found by HIMARS or m777s. Or whatever.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        why didn't ukraine blow it up then? it's their fricking ammo stockpile

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >What is the tactical advantage of leaving ARSENAL FULL OF AMMO behind?
    it's the same ammo ukraine left behind back in march, april or whenever balakliya was captured by russia

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    found a webm of it dating late april on tbharchive
    pretty sure the reason why neither russia nor ukraine blew it up in a span of 4 months is either
    a) most of the ammo is old and bad
    b) there's so much of it that it would destroy the city as well

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ruskies adhere to the UN ADR rules?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Read the lot numbers on the 60mm and the UN PMCs on the boxes.
      >60mm HE mortar ammo made in Czech Republic in 2016
      The Ammo boxes with the UN HD diamonds on them are Czech made - you can read the 'CZ' country code in the UM Package marking code certification on the boxes, the box certification is 2014 and the ammo in it was made in 2016.
      >"ancient soviet ammo"
      The rest of it probably is, I cant see any lot markings clearly.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit..

    Imagine being the first guy to find it and then you find if'a completely unguarded due to fled vatniks. I'd be hard as diamonds.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wow. so many empty boxes..

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You can kind of tell; they are not empty by the fact that the lids are still nailed on them. Unless you think that someone went and carefully nailed the wooden lids back on all those munitions crates because well....the Russian army is fricked up buck of morons and just do moronic shit? Is that what you are saying here this is just another example of completely moronic Russian shit wehere the Russian military sat nailing lits back onto empty crates and stacking a whole building full of them?

      BECAUSE THEY DON'T LOOK EMPTY TO ME CHUGSISTER IT LOOKS LIKE THE RUSSIAN ARMY RAN AWAY BECAUSE ITS MEN KNOW THAT BEING NEAR THAT WAS A DEATH SENTENCE AS SOON AS THE UKRANIANS GOT IT IN RANGE

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >You can kind of tell

        YOU SUCK A DICK! BECAUSE THOSE A CLEARLY ALL EMPTY BOXES YOU STUPID b***h!!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You can kind of tell; they are not empty by the fact that the lids are still nailed on them. Unless you think that someone went and carefully nailed the wooden lids back on all those munitions crates because well....the Russian army is fricked up buck of morons and just do moronic shit? Is that what you are saying here this is just another example of completely moronic Russian shit wehere the Russian military sat nailing lits back onto empty crates and stacking a whole building full of them?

          BECAUSE THEY DON'T LOOK EMPTY TO ME CHUGSISTER IT LOOKS LIKE THE RUSSIAN ARMY RAN AWAY BECAUSE ITS MEN KNOW THAT BEING NEAR THAT WAS A DEATH SENTENCE AS SOON AS THE UKRANIANS GOT IT IN RANGE

          >example of completely moronic Russian shit wehere the Russian military sat nailing lits back onto empty crates and stacking a whole building full of them

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You can already buy castrated Russian conscripts on the darknet for gold because their own military is selling them off to Arabs and claiming they died in Ukraine. The Russian military just does not give a frick about this war. They are quite expensive to as they are also used for organ harvests. It is teh site that used to sell castrated blacks to Arabs if you know the one. Dispatch is Dagestan

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            are you fricking serious?
            gib link

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    that's ok russia still has plenty of those, more than enough for counter-counteroffensive for all that matters

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do pallets not exist in Russia?

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's a gesture of goodwill.

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine abandons the arsenal, leaving ARSENAL FULL OF AMMO(no pallets) behind
    I sleep
    >Russia abandons the same exact arsenal, leaving ARSENAL FULL OF AMMO(no pallets) behind
    real shit

    explain this to me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Iraqi forces retreat in the face of overwhelming power, leaving behind stockpiles of ammunition and supplies
      I sleep
      >Coalition forces retreat in the face of overwhelming power, leaving behind stockpiles of ammunition and supplies
      real shit

      explain this to me

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        we're talking Russia Ukraine here aren't we

        https://i.imgur.com/J7IANlX.jpg

        they knew they'd get it back eventually

        so this time it's Russia who expects to retake it later then? and whoever ends up finally blowing up the arsenal along with the city right next to it during the retreat is the one to lose?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they knew they'd get it back eventually

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine is the underdog so nobody is surprised by them being in desperate situations but Russia is not or at least is not supposed to be.

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The enemy will now have TOO MUCH ammo, doesn't know what to do with it and the whole supply chain collapses.
    Victory imminent.

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seriously this shit would deserve it's own thread but how the frick I can't find ANY information about the usage of forklifts and pallets in the Russian army? You type in "US army forklift pallets" and you get tons of well, said things, you try a wild amount of related keyword searches for russia, nothing. You can't be fricking serious right?
    >t. forklift certified

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't know how bad things really are

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I do think I had a pretty good idea about the state of training, corruption, especially the vaunted tank reserves which were infact looted scrap yards, and so on, but seriously no fricking pallets? No forklifts? You'd think they'd lobby for some if for no other reason, more efficient stealing.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Even if they did, what do you think would happen to the money earmarked for pallet and forklift procuring?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair, hand-crating makes for the most efficient stealing

            Private Conscriptovich says he needs to take a shit while moving boxes from the train to the warehouse
            Sargeant Lugandov says alright and be quick goddamnit
            Private Conscriptovich walks off with the box he was carrying to take his shit, and does not come back with it
            Nobody says anything because everybody honors the "take a shit" excuse for walking off with a box full of loot

            I did this at my job in a retail store once without realizing it. I had a package of Nintendo games in hand while walking past the loading dock, asked my manager if I could get a cigarette from my car. Didn't realize I'd stolen 12 copies of Mario Soccer or what ever the frick until I got home that night and noticed them in the passenger seat.

            B-But we even provide instructional videos about this in 2k with subtitles, for free.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Western decadence is not match for manly Russian sweat and efforts!
              Moving munitions by hands forge muscled body, muscled body means strong soldier, strong soldier means strong army!

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          To be fair, hand-crating makes for the most efficient stealing

          Private Conscriptovich says he needs to take a shit while moving boxes from the train to the warehouse
          Sargeant Lugandov says alright and be quick goddamnit
          Private Conscriptovich walks off with the box he was carrying to take his shit, and does not come back with it
          Nobody says anything because everybody honors the "take a shit" excuse for walking off with a box full of loot

          I did this at my job in a retail store once without realizing it. I had a package of Nintendo games in hand while walking past the loading dock, asked my manager if I could get a cigarette from my car. Didn't realize I'd stolen 12 copies of Mario Soccer or what ever the frick until I got home that night and noticed them in the passenger seat.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Suuuuure, you just "accidentally" placed those Mario Soccer copies on your backseat and then "accidentally" forgot to take them back with you after you got your ciggies.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >no fricking pallets? No forklifts?

          Probably on paper somewhere, just like they have A MEELLION MENS army on paper, somewhere

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Welcome to March, when we made that realization. It explains so fricking much about how much of a clusterfrick the Russian logistical system is, doesn't it?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        But the Ukrainians seem to do fine without pallets.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine has the West helping its logistics

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          The Ukrainians use pallets in at least some part of their logistical system. They have to, even if it's just so they can move around the aid shipments. Even if that's where it started, they would have immediately picked up on how much it revolutionizes logistics and put it into service wherever they could.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            But do they have enough qualified forklift operators and military forklifts?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, I got forklift certified in an hour. It's not that difficult to teach someone if the instructor and trainee actually give a shit.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/bUJAgUY.jpg

          The Ukrainians use pallets in at least some part of their logistical system. They have to, even if it's just so they can move around the aid shipments. Even if that's where it started, they would have immediately picked up on how much it revolutionizes logistics and put it into service wherever they could.

          Even if they don't have western logistics equipment, they have enough manpower to do all the manual labour of handling unpalleted supplies. Just put some barely trained territorial defence to it. Russia doesn't, it has to be done by the same soldiers who are desperately needed at the front.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >t. forklift certified
      May I kiss your feet?

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What is the tactical advantage of burdening your enemy with so much of your ammo that it consumes a massive investment of their man hours in resources dealing with your toxic waste dump?

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    So they just left it? No scorched earth?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Can't deny the enemy assets gotta ABANDOON

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have got one full of ammo right here for ye *unzips willie*

  61. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Just the sheer amount of crap that got beat out of the Russian pinata really is mind boggling, T-80's everywhere, support vehicles out the wazoo and more arty than you can shake a stick at.
    On top of that there's 100's of tonnes of ammo

    Fricking milsurp for days booooys!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Are these all fully operational abandooned Russian armour?

        >stupid supplemental question
        Does a tank have ignition keys?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Does a tank have ignition keys?
          usually military vehicles don't need keys to start, because the person with the keys could suddenly be dispersed over large area without warning

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >you can just take tank home no one will stop you

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Literally happened in the US once where a guy stole a Patton out of a NG armory.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What do you do with captured Russian hardware though? Do you use it, do you cannabalise it for parts or do you just sell iaxmpkt for scrap?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Anything related to EW or communications you trade with Western spooks, rest you use to equip few more mechanized units, or turn mechanized to armored.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I understand leaving behind towed artillery and shit but why tanks and other vehicles (unless they were out of fuel)? Beats walking, doesn't it?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          You can ditch your uniform for civilian clothes, you can't just disguise a tank.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Obviously you'd keep driving until you're behind R*ssian lines again.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              JAVELINS could be here.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If they go back with their equipment, they'll be expected to use it in any counteroffensive. They have no will to fight.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          tank doesnt help you when you're surrounded from 3 sides and your escape route involves a river with no bridges left

  62. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Russia was jealous of all the cool shit the US left in middle east and felt left out

  63. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    As a parting gift and apolgy to the people of Ukraine.

  64. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Some Russian peasant in the 70's probably suffered working 12 hours 6 days a weeks making this shit only for it to get abandoned in another country then repurposed and used to kill his grandchildren

  65. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it called "salting" ? is any sodium chloride actually used? This makes about as much sense as corned beef which doesn't have any corn.

    .t ESL pro

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it's a reference to this idea

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salting_the_earth

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      From the expression "salt the earth", to poison the ground so crops can't grow again. What the Romans supposedly did to Carthage when they defeated it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >corned beef
      It is corned just like gun powder is. By forcing it through a mesh.
      Before people corned gunpowder it would separate on long journeys and fail to ignite.
      By making a paste, then forcing it through a mesh, it stopped this problem. The size of the mesh dictates the grain of the powder.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Before people corned gunpowder it would separate on long journeys and fail to ignite.
        the formation of dust was also a hazard, a spark could make it all go off

  66. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://nitter.it/Caucasuswar/status/1568997031061950474#m

    If even a fraction of this stuff makes it to european black markets you can never call us noguns again.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Genuine soviet/russian AK parts kits are back on the menu Yankies.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Reminds me of of stories about Ex-Soviet officials in the 90s selling AKs under their jackets at train stations.

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