Since August 1st, Russian forces have been "attacking" the city of Bakhmut. I add the quotes because despite it being over 2 months since the offensive has begun, Russian forces still haven't reached the city proper.
But why, even as the Kharkiv, Luhansk, and Kherson fronts collapse, are the Russians still trying to take Bakhmut?
>Because its a major city!
It's not. I'll explain what Bakhmut is.
Bakhmut is the first step towards the actual goal of the Russian offensive, Slovyansk and Kramatorsk. Bakhmut is just one city on what we'll call the "Bakhmut-Soledar-Siversk Line."
After the fall of Sievierdonetsk-Lysychansk, the Russians had made it clear that they would be aiming to take the Donetsk cities of Kramatorsk and Slovyansk, the former being the provisional capital of the Oblast.
However, a Ukrainian defensive line was set up along the T-5 road going North through the blue line in picrel. Breaking that blue line was necessary to start the assault on the orange line, Kramatorsk-Slovyansk.
This assault would've been assisted by subsequent Russian attacks North of the city from Lyman and Izyum.
But over the past month, Russia has lost Lyman and Izyum, meaning any assault on Kramatorsk-Slovyansk will come from the east and only the east. The chances of this succeeding are basically nil. To take Lysychansk and Sievierdonetsk, the Russians had to flank from the south in Popasna and north from Kreminna.
So the attack plans for Kramatorsk and Slovyansk are over. They should be scrapped. And yet, the Russians attack Bakhmut anyways. They continue on with phase 1 of an offensive long dead.
Why? Well, did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?
Sounds like the problem of the guy in charge of the Northern front. Not the Southern guy's problem and the Center guy's bonus is only contingent on taking Bakhmut.
It's almost like not having an overall commander is a bad thing or something
Sounds like a problem for the guy in charge of the entire front.
no such thing
>>>/x/
Putin started micromanaging the front since about June. The fact that you're pre-emptively denying it and calling it a conspiracy theory confirms it.
The folly of an inflexible command structure. Let them waste their guys.
>august
july actually
two more weeks btw
JFC
Is that Rumia with her hair colored like the Russian flag?
Jesus
World is truly surreal place when try to believe russian propaganda
>Bakhmut is the lynchpin of Ukrainian defenses
They said this about Severdonetsk. They said this about Pisky. That after [insert random town] falls then the entire Ukrainian front will collapse. How do they expect to take Kramatorsk, a city way larger than Bakhmut, if its 2-3 months later and gayner still hasn't even made it to the urban combat part of Bakhmut? Even Serbia cumchugger Zoka is on twitter saying Bakhmut by 2024.
I like how they say
>it's totally over after Bakhmut!
>just wait little more and ukrops will crumble!
when Sloviansk and Kramatorsk were always expected to be the main defensive line on donbass and russian didn't even get there lmao.
Are the ruskies any close to taking Bakhmut? They’ve been at it for months now
they are edging
They took a town to the south of it. Looks like the plan is to encircle the western side of the city from south and then ???
The picture above was from day 180. This picture is day 212. I'd say no.
0/10 bait
It's uncanny seeing these old borders. So much work and men thrown into the fray, all to see it disappear in a weak.
It’s still crazy to me that the Russians failed to hold the Ukrainians at the Oskil river for more than 2 weeks. If Russia could stop the Ukrainians there how are they going to stop them at Svatove? We’ve all seen the pictures of trench diggers heading there so we know their defenses are light.
>WE TOTALLY DONT NEED BAKHMUT ANYMORE GUISE!
New Ukkkrope talking point just dropped huh
RIP
Yes,
Rest
In
Piss
S. Frick that dude, I hope he had a wife and kids
Remind me which side is pro globohomosexual troony?
Based
Gee I can’t wait to see which war crimes the Hohols will commit this week!
Weak bait, have (you)
I didn’t read. At the end of the day, Russia still has more class than Ukraine. Ukraine..the bastard spawn turned puppet of globohomo.. too late will they realize they are culturally and genetically closer to Russia than they are with the mutt west. Oh well, I hope they enjoy being flooded with Black folk :*~~) like Polan
The piggies keep mistaking Russian weakness for kindness but Russia will have the last laugh
>mistaking weakness for kindness
Oof. What’s next, Russia was a sheep in wolves clothing?
>flooding with africans
Funny, I thought your lot was bringing in africans to fight for you since your men are fleeing as fast as they can
>I hope they enjoy being flooded with Black folk
The glowies have your ip and you are in a list. I hope you know that homosexual.
>mistaking Russian weakness for kindness
too obvious.
You should fear a skinny bear as they will eat anything they can catch.
>anything they can catch.
being the optimal phrase there, not get absolutely BTFO in part of their own incompetence
More like pic rel
being Black person-like isn't trolling, son
The side with a large amounts of gays in their ranks
>Russianblowjob.webm
Frick off c**t.
that'd be your side, prancing la la homo
>Based
why are you celebrating rusky deaths tho?
>Remind me which side is pro globohomosexual troony?
Lots of /k/ommandos seem to have forgotten but I haven't.
|_T_|T_
Pretending to be moronic = being a moron
It's post-Irony all the way down where everybody is taken at face value and if you're a moron you will be called as such
>inb4 I was only pretending
doesn't matter anymore
It matters in that some of the people impersonating vatniks do so to foster vatnik hate and counter their propaganda by making it even more boring and deranged than it is.
>boring and deranged than it is
Seems mutually exclusive
The more deranged the cope is the funnier it gets
>Remind me which side is pro globohomosexual troony?
Yours
>we didn't need kyiv
>we didn't need kharkiv
>we didn't need chernihiv
>we didn't need snake island
>we didn't need balakiliya
>we didn't need kupyansk
>we didn't need izyum
>we didn't need whole of kharkiv oblast
>we didn't need 1/3 of the right bank of the dnipro
YOU ARE HERE
want to see how far this rabbit hole will go, dumbfrick?
Seethe, cope, dilitate
>*Angry Russian dick sucking noises*
lol!
>marines aren't facing each other
Try again.
They were, try again.
>phoneBlack person
opinion discarded
>posting a Kievmeme and pretending it somehow applies to the other side
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it's a developer of Metro video game btw
Shit.
I think that Metro and Stalker are basically gone now.
Though in the remote possibility that they return, I bet they will shit on russians so damn hard.
Last I heard, the Metro author had an outstanding warrant for his arrest because he wouldn’t stop criticizing the war.
I don't think he lives in Russia anymore though, so he probably doesn't care at all.
I can only hope. Stalker 2 is still in development but it has been obviously pushed back. Metro I have not heard any news. But I don't see them stopping. Exodus was possibly the best game they ever released, and I can only see them trying to top it.
Can't imagine they would be in the mood to make a game about a post-apocalyptic Eastern Europe after the war.
revenge porn against pussia
>Can't imagine they would be in the mood to make a game about a post-apocalyptic Eastern Europe after the war.
Someone will. There will definitely be a market for some facsimile of a Ukraine war game
Consider this:
>post-apocalyptic Eastern European game where you obliterate Russia again
I can see the vibe going from "everyone's just fricking ready to be dead" to "everyone's got a desire to take that anger out on the frickers who caused this."
>Wow, we got picked up that Microsoft money, our future looks better than ever!
>Everyone has either fled for safety, ran away from their home to the capital, or volunteered in the Ukraine Territorial Defense
Imagine how they can improve combat AI, weapon animations, etc. after seeing it first hand though.
I don't think fighting the Russians could teach you much about better AI.
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>Ukkkrope
Just to remind you and specifically you: YWNBAW
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F, and i didnt even like Metro 2033
By the way, the situation in Pisskey is almost exactly the same as this, but on an even smaller and more pathetic level. I'll make a thread about how Pisskey is only phase 1 of what is supposed to be a much larger operation tomorrow maybe.
Don't you fricking dare dishonour all those who died assaulting the Quadrodimensional Superfortress Piss-key
Pisky is the key to everything.
The problem with all this talk of "Oh Noes The Vatniks conquered The 'Pisky Supercitadel' "
"Oh Noes, The Ukies reconquered it!"
"Nuh Uh! Fake News! The Vatniks still hold it!"....
There are at least a dozen towns in Ukraine named Pisky. Like every raion in every oblast has a Pisky.
Pisky's are to Ukraine what Starbucks franchises are to college towns.
So the next time someone declares "Pisky has been taken by X" you have to ask "Which one?"
That's why people specify "n dimensional HyperFortress Pissky" anon, so you know which one they are talking about
The one who controls all the Piskys controls the universe
So....Pisky's are like, what, a Diablo Waypoint?
If so, that would be a great boon to logistics.
tbh it's a pretty good grift if this
is true. Occasionally fire a couple shells and occasionally advance into empty fields then retreat if they are shot at. this war probably isn't going to be won by mad and courageous advances, just make a good effort at a place that doesn't really matter and have a comfy time roving from base to base or trench to trench with your winter clothes bought with Russian rewards monies and then surrender if dying is actually a threat
Are you retrded? The Orb of Pisskey is the reason for this war in the first place
Bakhmut is a con played by the violinists (russkie code for Wagner) on the Russian Military. They get paid for completing objectives, mainly taking land and ensuring mobiks get to fill the positions before moving on. Problem is, it is never specified how much land they need to capture to get their monetary award. As such you get the situation of “Kodema hill” where Wagner parades around the capture of a small barrow in Donetsk oblast and demand compensation for it. If Rus Army refuses, Wagner can walk away and they are some of the few experienced people on the front, so their army handlers are forced to congratulate and pay them for every captured hill. That is why the Bakhmut advance is so slow, because Wagner is purposely taking it as slow as possible to ensure the biggest payout for themselves. These are the people vatnik telegrams justifiably call traitors.
Truth is much simpler than that. gayner is just a bunch of yesterday's gopniks and prisoners that no one cares about and therefore they always thrown at dumbest suicidal shit. They don't do anything because they literally can't, all their core cadre is long gone, their whole personnel been killed and rerecruited several times over during this war. Only thing that makes them more efficient than all other russian army is that they need to do less paperwork.
From the get go, the operation has been driven not by sound military intellect but by Putin's ego. They are constantly chasing PR goals rather than military goals and endlessly failing because of it
So Bakhmut is the new Pisky?
You've heard of Ptoemkin villages? This is a Potemkin offensive.
POTEMKO POTEMKO POTEMKO
POTEMKIN BUSTAAA
NEW VIDEO OF 9 UKRANIANS DYING BY ARTILLERY JUST DROPPED
https://streamable.com/bl48gy
>new
>April
More krococop
It is actually a bunch of russians getting killed by arty.
How dare them kill russian troops? Omg
Ukrainians punched air in the harkov while Russians assault bakhmut
>Sevierdonetsk and Lysychansk
Man, that's a nostalgia trip. Anyone else remember spending the whole summer zoomed in on the imminently-collapsing-kotel?
was good times
Wagneroids who are the bulk of russian forces in bakhmut are probably getting paid only for being active in that specific area and nowhere else. It wouldn't be weird if monke signed a x-months contract with them in July and it's still in power despite the kharkov front collapsing
inb4 the Ukrainians break the line at Vuhledar in the coming days and by extension frick the Russian efforts at Bakhmut.
Thanks Doc.
I'd add that because Putin needs to sell success to placate the Russian information space, Bakhmut and the outskirts of Donestk are valuable because they are the only areas of the front where they can go over to the attack consistently. It's symbolic rather than operational.
this was from another attack on Bakhmut/Soledar from two days ago
So, why are you posting screenshots and not video, you incompetent glavset hooker?
Prigozhin wants to raise his stocks and has 10k prisoners to spare.
Have some related tankie cope
What map is that? I like how the units are marked.