How do we feel about truck/bail out bags? They seem super niche but at the same time having everything you need for a 'just in case/ minimal gear set/youtuber buzzword scenario seems handy.
Bail out bags
How do we feel about truck/bail out bags? They seem super niche but at the same time having everything you need for a 'just in case/ minimal gear set/youtuber buzzword scenario seems handy.
>How do we feel
How do you feel?
I wouldn't flaunt it but having eveything in one convenient shoulder bag doesn't seem like a terrible idea
The whole prep a bug out bag full of ammo "just in case" thing never made sense to me. In any real massive disaster, your time and training and money would be so much better off on things like water filtration, power generators, gardening, etc. What are you going to accomplish with a small survival kit in a crisis? Go live off the land indefinitely in some remote off grid location? You should be fortifying a compound and investing in self sustainable skills and equipment if you're really scared of some happening - not some bug out fantasy fanny pack.
Basically, things went:
>having a bug out bag is important because disasters that you need to quickly evacuate from can happen
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>hotels can be expensive especially when they're slammed with people needing rooms, and not everyone has family nearby to stay with, so some people might benefit from bringing camping supplies as well, especially if they already own them and have experience
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>some happening is going to happen with nowhere to bug out to so you're going to need to live in the woods for an extended amount of time with just the gear on your back
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>some happening is going to happen and it's going to be just like a battle royal shooter where you need to kill everyone you see and keep looting necessities off of them
>The whole prep a bug out bag full of ammo "just in case" thing never made sense to me.
Because that's not what most people mean when they say bug-out bag. You're debating a strawman.
The overwhelming majority of people I've seen postins pictures of actual BOBs acknowledge that a natural disaster or house fire is a far more likely use case than some hypothetical insurgency.
The word you're looking for is "bug out bag" and they're a thing around here.
I don't have one because i don't bet on the collapse of society and i can't really "afford" to buy things i don't strictly need.
That being said i would have one if i wasn't saving my money on more important things.
What could be more important that being prepared for anything? Need to build a bug out bag yesterday, retard.
>haha thats so stupid and impractical, no way i can afford a jansport with some water bottles and a tarp in it, i have funko pops i need
What do they better than a regular backpack or rucksack in your car? Do you honestly think you'll ever have a scenario where you need to jump out of your car and enage in heavy gunfighting necessitating a full combat load of 210 rounds?
If you do then why not keep a spare plate carrier/vest in your trunk instead. You're not that one SAS operative in Nairobi or whatever. A survival bag with E-rations, water, first aid, flares, warm clothes, and firestarters is more important than 200+ rounds of 5.56. If you need a gun your CCW will suffice.
>How do we feel about truck/bail out bags?
I've never heard that term before but I have a get-home bag in my car. Its set up as much for staying comfortable if I'm stuck overnight at work/a mate's/in the car as it is for hoofing it back home in a natural disaster/civil unrest. Its a ratty old hiking pack stuffed with a change of clothes, snacks, emergency rations, FAK and other miscellaneous stuff. Most recent addition is a Baofeng so my wife and I can stay in touch if cell networks go down.
I've also got a Maverick 88, a Px4 and a plate carrier with some ar500 steel plates that would just be taking up space in the house, along with some reloads for my usual ccw. I acknowledge that it's unlikely that I'll ever need that aspect of the kit but it's not like it's costing me anything sitting there.
Can't disagree with anything this guy has said.
All of this, and for a vehicle things like blankets, flares, tools and emergency vests for visibility are far more useful than an armory behind the seat.
Your vehicle is your bailout bag. If you are a commuter you might keep enough kit in the vehicle for an overland get home but that kind of situation is unlikely in the extreme. For someone commuting by train, keeping an overland get-home bag in the office might make sense.
quite the opposite I'd say. Maybe some shit happens and you need to get home. I'd rather have it and need it then need it and not have it
no one would lives somewhere the chances of needing something like this are higher than the chances of it being stolen out of your car would bother asking about it on PrepHole
Eurofag detected
guess again gay
>I'd rather have it and need it then need it and not have it
That's true to a point, but there is a limit. I'll use the example of insurance since the logic is the same. Everyone should have health insurance at a minimum. However it is possible to have more coverage than you actually need. If you only go the doctor at most once a year, and usually spend less than $1000 on healthcare, why pay $500/mo premium for a $1000 deductible when you can pay $100/mo for the $3000?
The extra insurance isn't really getting you anything.
>Be anon inna grocery middle school
>Be on isle 5 debating between organic or gluten free tendies
>Suddenly from the front of the the store >*BANG BANG BANG!*
>Shit bricks, but then become incredibly calm, for anon is ready
>Step over screaming child shot in the thigh, knock over granny, chud, and jannie on the way towards the exit dipping and ducking and dodging this way and that this way and that
>Somehow manage to get past the shooter without getting shot and get to the parking lot
>Get to car open the trunk, grab justincase autism bag and rifle
>Turn around to head back inside the store to save the tendies
>Police arrive on scene and shoot anon in the back a dozen times just as he goes through the door.
>Die without ever eating a single tendy ever again.
to be honest if someone is genuinely planning on getting into something, going out and getting whatever, then coming back in, they're pretty retarded. But that's a braindead take if you're proposing that is what people have stuff in their vehicle for.
>pulling in to parking lot to pick my wife up from work
>bunch of gun shots inside as I park up
>not waiting for police to triage my wife's dead body
>road rage incident, some retards chase me
>calling the law but get run off the road as i'm distracted on the phone
>car survives long enough for me to limp it away from attacker's vehicle but it dies in a ditch about 700 yards away and the attacker vehicle is now coming over
are both more reasonable use cases where you'd be very glad to have some magazines and med stuff in a bag that you can immediately move to cover or contact with. Are they very likely? nah, there's only one Leo Prinsloo in the world. But we're all sat here with CCWs, probabilities aren't our primary concern.
>some guy is shooting up my wife's workplace, better bring a rifle and a few spare mags so the cops think I'm shooting up the place
>there's a road rage incident, better start mag dumping a rifle in traffic
Yeah, meanwhile you can't post a single documented self defense case where a reload made a difference in the outcome.
>But we're all sat here with CCWs, probabilities aren't our primary concern.
What are you talking about? 1 in every 250 Americans is a victim of violent crime on a yearly basis. That's an incredibly high likelihood.
lol I remember your dumb ass from the "why carry a reload" thread
Still waiting on you to control that .4% stat for income, location, and ethnicity.
There's a major difference between dropping an extra pistol mag in your pocket vs throwing together a whole wannabe SWAT call out bag
No, moron, I'm talking about your "1 out of 250 is an incredibly high likelihood of being a victim of violent crime" statistic that, again, fails to paint a complete picture again given the reality that the majority of PrepHole is also not a minority living below the poverty line in an urban area, which significantly skews your little pet statistic. Which again, even skewed, is 0.4%. To put it another way, that means 99.6% of the population is NOT a victim of violent crime, and again that's not controlling for any sociological factors that would make an individual more likely to be a victim.
I'm not arguing that OP isn't a fucking retard. I'm just saying you're ALSO a fucking retard.
I'm NTA, anon. From either this thread or the other one you're referring to. Maybe that anon is
Far more likely that your car will get broken into and that shit will get stolen than any of those hypothetical scenarios where it would be relevant. A 72 hour survival bag with food and water in case you car breaks down or you are otherwise stranded with your vehicle, a medical kit in case you come upon an accident, a basic car maintenance kit so you can prevent your car from being stuck somewhere you need your 72 hour kit in the first place. These are the sort of things that makes sense to keep in your vehicle. A rifle and a "go bag" do not. Guns should either be kept on your person as your ccw is, or safely secured in your home.
Not that anon, but do it your self. You can find the crime rate for wherever you live online with a search engine if you want a number tailored to you personally. Where I live your yearly odds are 1 in 323, or .31%, and 87% of the population here is white. I have worked with multiple people who had someone attack them and came to work with injuries after, and personally knew someone who died in a car accident for which the odds are much lower.
>87% white
>13% non-white
HMMM....
>What are you talking about? 1 in every 250 Americans is a victim of violent crime on a yearly basis. That's an incredibly high likelihood.
t. retard
Pal you got a better chance of seeing Jesus blowing Buddha than you do seeing that hyper specific set of circumstances you're trying to build a fantasy around.
But by all means if you wanna be a special larperations member, it's your money.
what is the "it" you need, thats in the bag?
The concept is sound but I don't really see a need for a specialized item for the task. I just use an old backpack. I guess a pack that can act as an improvised chest rig when worn isn't a bad idea though.
What I don't particularly recommend is leaving it in your car where it can easily get stolen.
bail out from what? i keep a bailout bag of beef jerky in case i get hungry on the road. also some bottles of water
Not great not terrible.
If we are talking about a small bag that can be stored in a vehicle that contains a few extra items then it's not a bad idea.
If you are talking about a bug out bag meant for survival then I'd say keep it at home because storing in a car would be too bulky.
Not a bad investment to have some sort of bag with extra supplies but I don't think I'd abandon my car to hike home if I could help it.
Then again I don't live in a big city.
>If we are talking about a small bag that can be stored in a vehicle that contains a few extra items then it's not a bad idea.
I mean that's literall what OP is asking, everybody here seems to struggle with reading comprehension and thinks that bail out bag means 3 day sustainment bag when it's literally a shoulder bag with an IFAK, some extra mags and a few small items you wouldnt keep in your pockets but would still like to keep close
>everybody here seems to struggle with reading comprehension and thinks that bail out bag means 3 day sustainment bag when it's literally a shoulder bag with an IFAK, some extra mags and a few small items
Seems like a bailout bag is a literally useless and retarded idea then.
>ifak, mags, bag
ok so get this, I have this thing called a plate carrier that holds all that shit and it stops bullets from penetrating my aorta
Is this like some greyman "Oh but plate carriers are scary!" bullshit? bro you are grabbing a rifle you are past that point or is this "I'm too poor and stupid to buy plates because I keep buying useless crap like bailout bags" in either case, unfuck yourself immediately.
I'm failing to see why this is a thing.
Where the fuck did anyone say you couldnt have a plate carrier AND and extra bag?
ok I'll entertain the concept, post your plate carrier and purse
Your response is reasonable, however you should post a picture people can track through exif data of your specific kit
This post glows and smells of bacon
>exif data
wow tourist retard, you don't even know how to remove exif data? Jesus christ you're a stupid fuck, even dumber than I thought. Don't worry, PrepHole started scrubbing exif before you ever even heard about this site because too many people were posting pics with it intact.
Anyway, clearly you don't own either so that puts the matter to rest.
they are dumb
when they were orginally mostly emergency medical supplies and stuff youd want in a severe weather scenario (terrorist/mass shooter/flash flood/tornado/hurricane/wildfire) they made sense, but theyre 90% ~~*tactical*~~ bullshit fo "influencers" to post on instagram now, same as 'bushcraft' gays
I use something like picrel as a range bag since it holds a few magazines as well as my folder of paper targets and a few other gizmos
I don’t like to spend a lot of time packing for the range, i have all I need packed into one little bag, when I was a kid my dad would always bring too much gear to the range, I learned a lot from him but I also picked up the bad habit of bringing too much gear which was hard to break but I was able to do it and eventually get him to as well
He still likes to bring many of his guns to the range but I try to focus on usually 2 max
It's a 72 hour bag. It's there for general emergencies like the car dying/crashing, or a wildfire or major flood shows up at the front door of your home, or the roads are blocked for a while. It gives you the option to take care of yourself and your family in an emergency, unless you want to rely on the random help of others.
>feel
It's not a bad idea.
Having enough ressources to get away by yourself in case of local/regional/national disaster is an nice option to have.
It won't cost much either, tbh, so it's basically a small insurance.
Regular looking backpack with basic shit in there to get you back home
>poncho or frog togs
>first aid (with mylar blanket incase it gets cold)
>water bottle and filter
>basic medicine like ibuprofen
>ammo for carry gun
>protein bars
>baby wipes for protein bar shits
>multivitamins
If its meant to be stored in your car then keep good shoes and a change of clothes next to it. I have a small camelback backpack with a water bladder that I got from goodwill for $3 as my boog out bag. Has everything listed with room to spare.
I'm forgetting things so I'll add:
>hand sanitizer and small soap bar
>headlamp with red light filter
>knife/multitool
>maybe a firestarter if you want
could add a tarp and twine from the dollar store in case it rains and you can't find shelter because you strayed off the roads for whatever dumb reason.
>no candy
Enjoy being dead in a ditch I guess. Skittles save lives.
I have a fanny pack. I'd get turn out bag/duffle if I needed a rifle.
Better question
How do you feel about my truck gun?
Whoever steals it will be quite happy with it.
The plan is to open carry it everywhere also
that way its never in my car
if i really needed to bail out I'd just take my edc plus my range bag but nothing ever happens
You should have one, but it should have basic tools, medical supplies and bottles of water in it. They're way more useful for situations you're likely to encounter in your daily life. Obviously bring your EDC too, but fucking nothing is worse than being stranded on the side of the road for six hours in the middle of winter without a blanket or heavier jacket.
I can't imagine any scenario where I'd bring my rifle without my PC and placcard.. but at the end of the day, it's a bag that holds mags and possibly a few other doo-dads.. and soldiers have been using similar setups since the first rifle hit the battlefield, so it'll work, I gues..
>They seem super niche
>You live in a country where cars are the main form of transportation and you can go literal hours between points of civilization
Damn major brainlet hours
They're useful and they're just insurance. Like keeping a fire extinguisher around, or, damn, a gun.
>having a bag full of extra mags for a rifle is just like keeping a fire extinguisher in your car
Anon, stop living in fantasy land.
>Bug out bags / go bags are just a rifle and mags
You're fucking retarded holy shit
Why is this thread full of newfags
OP is specifically talking about a "truck/bail out bag" with it specifically being fighting gear you retard, with other posts in the thread talking about crazy situations where you might need to bring your rifle and burn through multiple mags.
That's the retard version of a grab bag. I look at it like an emergency bag where I can't get home or have to stay somewhere over night, possibly without power and maybe without shelter. That's why I posted
which is what I have in mine.
>That's crazy fantasy stuff.
Not really, glasses, a couple days of your meds, socks, a phone charger and some minimal survival supplies is not a crazy thing to have. Everyone should have this in a bag.
Also, this guy gets it. You don't even want a tactical bag. You want a well built grey man backpack with a couple of extra pockets and you want stuff you actually need in it. Think of it like what you would take on an overnight camping trip.
I'd go with a basic backpack for a bail out bag. Something like an L.L. Bean ruck sack or Jansport. My exact recommendation is:
https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/126150?page=llbean-continental-rucksack&csp=a&feat=backpack-recsbottom.search&ri=rbsIFQ1&pos=1&attrValue_0=Dark%20Graphite
>pic related
Something smaller would also work.
As for the image in the OP, I have that bag and its' a great range bag. If I'm taking pistols instead of an AR, those mag pouches are perfect for each holding an unloaded pistol. So you have 3 pistol pouches and your ears, eye and ammo in the main pouch. Targets you may have to carry separate unless they're real small, get gud.
As for your bailout bag,
Soft bag (platypus bag) of water, like 85% full.
A good first aid kit.
Some energy bars.
Extra glasses (if you wear contacts)
A few days of medication (if you're on meds)
A 100' of good rope.
A good knife.
Some kind of plastic sheet/tarp/poncho.
A battery charger, preferrably one of those self charging solar battery packs with cables both Samsung and iphone.
A flashlight.
A bic lighter.
A spare set of socks, maybe a whole outfit to sleep in.
and a bit of cash would not be a bad idea.
Yes, you absolutely should have this in a bag somewhere ready to go. I'd keep your passport in a safe.
I forgot, I also have a small sewing kit and a small pack of duct tape in mine.
Ohio chemical spill where you cannot stay home unless you want stage 71 cancer and have to leave the state
Grab bags are an essential item to have behind a seat of an MRAP patrolling Syria, but in a Nissan Murano patrolling Vermont you'd be better focused on a breakdown kit and some non-perishable food. I mean the point is to be able to replenish the mags on your vest and belted ammo for your gunners that you've already burned through during a protracted firefight, which means you were already wearing your gear when the shooting started and the shooting has outlasted the 120-300 rounds you were already carrying; its not a realistic scenario in CONUS. I think even for a cop in a gorilla moron city like chicago or monroe would struggle to get himself into circumstances where a grab bag would be needed.