Here’s a picture of my things, which I like. Please share pictures of yours.
Long black tube thing: tarp in snake skins
Silver thing: umbrella
Dark green thing to the right of the umbrella is a pillow
Black bag under that is hammock suspension and stakes
Red bag is my hammock and bug net
The ziplocks are my first aid and toiletries, and my maps, compass, and novel.
Above that is a fancy feast stove and a wind screen made of old soda cans.
The little bottles on the blue bag are my Aquamira kit.
This was what I used last week, when the low temps were around 50°, then highs were around 80° with a small amount of rain, and several hours another day on an old road with sparse shade and no clouds.
Well I guess it depends on where Im going moron
Are you so world traveled that every trip you take is in a different climate? You’re not like most people, who hike and camp fairly close to home because it’s convenient?
California is a place where that’s possible.
I’m 3 hours from the lower, hotter coastal ranges, the nice, cool coastal range, and the high Sierra.
It’s not feasible to get that much shit tho. Also, not that guy.
im going to your moms house what should i bring?
Kneepads for when you suck my dick when you get here
Nice bivy, just ordered pic.
Do you bring a tarp or poncho tarp as well?
>shemagh
My Black person
Old woodland bivys are the shit. Fricking love mine; gonna pair it with a woobie as a lightweight sleep system.
I got absurdly lucky with this one, they were out of stock seemingly everywhere even Varusteleka, then one pops up for $20 on Kijiji (Canadian Craigslist). It's a real Tennier Industries one too.
>gonna pair it with a woobie as a lightweight sleep system.
Hell yeah. I've got to get one those.
Checked and envious, 20 is a steal.
>He didn’t get the Dutch hooped bivy instead.
It’s a little more expensive but if you can find the one made by Carinthia it’s the same one they sell for $900 but military surplus. Has a bug net and enough room to actually breathe.
I know the one you're talking about, but I didn't want that one. I wanted a literal bivy "sack".
No poles, and I don't plan on ever actually putting the top part up over my face. It's just for making my sleeping bag water proof under a tarp. Even if it was over my face it wouldn't bother me as most of the time I lay on my stomach.
What I really wanted was pic, but they're very expensive.
I should mention I'm a motocamper.
Ah, I got you. I wish I could use something like that but the bugs are killer up here in the PNW.
I've gotten over my fear of spiders by forcing myself to pick them up and play with them, almost passed out a few times.
Mosquitoes are c**ts, but that's what headnets are for.
If It's really bad I just bring my tent instead.
>picking spiders up
Come to Australia and try it
Pass, though MadMax makes a convincing argument.
>Come to Australia
No thanks, I'm a felon.
Then you'll fit right in.
Nah, you guys are to upstanding now. I'd stick out like a sore thumb.
Wait, Australia can't even effectively kill rabbits. I've seen rabbits die from fright. How dangerous could it be?
That virus escaped from the CSIRO lab before it was finished being developed, the spiders here are murderous little bastards.
not this time of year?
I've purchased two US military bivies for $60 each. My local pawn has no idea what they have lmao.
>pawn shop selling bivies
Interesting. Post a pic of them.
What do you guys think about the Mil Tec Bivy modeled after the US Army version? I’d like to get a Bivy to try some stealth camping and also sleep in the woods. But I don’t want to spend tons of money because I don’t know if I’ll even stick to this hobby. The Mil Tec is quite cheap and seems to have its uses but many people say it’s absolute trash and even harmful. The problem is that apart from that one I can’t seem to find anything that might work. The British military version kind of sucks because it can’t be opened and has no head protection.
The miltec one (apparently) isn't goretex, so I wouldn't bother.
I'd get this one
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/dutch-gore-tex-bivy-bag-with-pole-dpm-surplus/64331
or this
https://www.terra-nova.co.uk/products/jupiter-lite-bivi/
I've used it for 2 years and I had no big issues. Yeah it's gonna be wet from condensation in the morning but neither I nor my sleeping bag got wet so I just climb out, pull the bag out and let it dry for a bit. For that reason I'd recommend getting a light tarp with the bivy so you have shelter you can move in and don't have to lie in the bivvy all the time when it rains outside.
what pack?
sso adler
why a traditional bivy like that (not a ‘bug bivy’ or ‘wind bivy’ which I understand the point of). These just seem like miserably condensation traps, I’d hate to be under this in the rain. And they’re heavy.
Guess what I’m asking is, why not a tarp and a better quilt?
its gore-tex its waterproof and breathable thares barely any condensation I've slept in in in the rain and was fine and its only 500g, and the bag is -30c rated no quilt is better than that
>for-Tex
>waterproof
>breathable
They got another one
Can you elaborate? I’m very new to all this stuff and I’d like to get a military bivy to camp outside (in the woods and the city). Everyone keeps talking about how goretex is important. Would you disagree?
Not the same anon but
Goretex breathes more than solid plastic, but it still doesn't breathe well. They tend to accumulate moisture in your sleep system. It's also heavy. My buddy uses a tenner industries usgi goretex bivy. For the same weight as the bivy, nylon tarp and 4 stakes i carry a double wall "2 person" backpacking tent with tyvek footprint. I think they paid $40 locally for the bivy and the most notorious big box store sells a 1person backpacking tent that's also under 3lb and $50. They're not entire useless like some people claim, I'd get one if I planned to sleep in bushcraft shelters, or was gonna bum it up and sleep under bridges or something like that. They're also not entirely practical when you can get a 1p backpacking tent in the same weight and price range at a big box store and sleep in an actual tent
Of course a tent will beat a bivy when it comes to comfort. But a tent draws too much attention and unless you only sleep in marked camping areas or way out in the woods you definitely don’t want to be seen. Like you mentioned, a bivy will be very useful if you’re trying to camp in a city or near trails not far into the forest. And that’s exactly what I aim to do.
It just doesn’t work in most environments. The humidity outside of the breathable layer has to be lower than the inside, otherwise water vapor will not permeate the goretex membrane. So high humidity environments are a no-go. It’s also limited on its breathability; anyone who’s worn a goretex jacket knows that it’s claimed capability is pretty exaggerate, and you end up wet from sweating. I wouldn’t trust a goretex bivvy to breathe well enough, especially considering the rise in humidity that occurs at night. Any condensation inside of a bivvy is going to condense when the surface cools. Maybe it’s a small amount where you are, but then again bivvys are meant for arid environments.
Tarp + bivy is peak
You may not use them both every time, but you will use them both all the time.
>why not a tarp and a better quilt?
You'd still want something to protect you sleeping bag from wet and wind. At least where I am.
I use a tarp, quilt and bug net draped over my head. My tarp is large enough (8x10) that getting wet hasn't been a problem if I pitch responsibly, and of course it blocks the wind too. A bivy is so heavy that you may as well just bring a double walled tent at that point imo. I might buy a 'wind bivy' so I can cowboy camp in on windy rainless nights, but that's still a totally different shelter than a traditional bivy like anon posted. I just don't see the point from a weight + utility perspective.
You slept in the rain with no tarp?
yes the bivvy is goretex so its waterproof
and no condensation issues? is your quilt down?
no issues and its a -30c down full bag
the bivvy also keeps the mats under you not slipping around
>bivy is so heavy that you may as well just bring a double walled tent at that point imo
You don't have to say "imo". And for me at least, I don't care about weight, space is more important than weight.
>they also infringe on the open nature of the tarp
>by stuffing yourself in a bivy you're missing out imo
A bivy sack doesn't take away from it anymore than a sleeping bag does. It's literally just a protective sack for your sleeping bag.
>interested in why you'd continue to use one.
Because if I stop on the side of the road I can roll it out and sleep, it's that easy.
If I have some more time I can set up my tarp and have a nice little camp.
It's just about versatility. When I go out camping, I travel from prairies to forests, to mountains. It's nice to have different options. I was thinking of bringing a hammock along with my tarp and bivy. All 3.
>You don't have to say "imo"
it is my opinion so it's an appropriate qualifier, i used it to express that i'm interested in your opinion and not at all attempting to speak objectively. i don't own a bivy so idk, but i struggle to see when i'd elect to bring one, which makes me feel that either a large portion of the world is wrong (unlikely) or i have some sort of unique insight into tarps (extremely unlikely), so i continue to inquire but aim to do so politely so i can learn. i think it's probably just preference honestly, but anyway:
>And for me at least, I don't care about weight, space is more important than weight.
Yes you do care about weight, you can't carry a thousand pounds on your back. every ounce/lb gained means more work to move it (work = force * distance). you are limited in the work you can do every unit of time, so something the requires substantially more work to carry should be justified (le imo).
>A bivy sack doesn't take away from it anymore than a sleeping bag does. It's literally just a protective sack for your sleeping bag.
given the picture you've provided, it seems it does indeed. that looks miserable. a bivy sack is a skin for your sleeping bag to provide wind / weather protection, a flat tarp objectively provides much more sq footage while doing this, and is much lighter - this is why i don't get it, it seems redundant and exceedingly heavy.
>Because if I stop on the side of the road I can roll it out and sleep, it's that easy.
is it worth the weight though? it only takes 5 min max to pitch a tarp, and you get a palace as a result while saving a pound.
i appreciate the engagement and im happy a bivy works for you, but i still struggle to see how you wouldn't be happier with just a tarp and bug net, and saving a pound. obviously to each their and i don't mean to condescend, just don't really get it, never have, and am expressing why.
Holy time bahman. Not your bivy guy but I think you're really reaching on the bivy being miserable. For most nights its just a draft, dew/mist guard and no more noticeable than the sleeping bag. Secondly it does help with drafts and splashes under the tarp **imo**. I have pitched my tarp to the ground in wind and the random strange gust that found its way to the open side was not an issue. I would feel comfortable with a relatively small tarp and bivy versus small tarp alone. Plus It does help keep all your shit together in the meantime.
and in what way was i reaching?
Write a fricking essay why don't you, sperg
>Yes you do care about weight, you can't carry a thousand pounds on your back
I don't carry it on my back.
>that looks miserable
We get it, you're a pussy.
It's not like every military uses them or has used them or anything.
>obviously to each their and i don't mean to condescend, just don't really get it, never have, and am expressing why.
You could not sound any more like a weight weenie b***hboy
>heavier and less comfortable / spacious is good
>ur just not strong like me!
cope
well I've never tried one but maybe they're not so bad, just read a lot about down soaking through due to condensation,or people ending up warmer without a bivy due to less condensation. they just end up being super heavy so other shelters start to compete with it at a certain weight.
in retrospect i reread your last line and think i get it. if you're just looking for fun carrying multiple shelters, I get it. I've just struggled to get why tarp + bivy sack is popular. if it's raining, you pitch the tarp, if it's not, you cowboy camp, simple as imo. i would personally hate to be in the rain with only a bivy, seems packing up would be miserable and my gear would be soaking wet.
>weight weenies
what do you mean? i just aim maximize overall comfort while PrepHole; personally most of my day is hiking, followed by sleeping, so i prioritize comfort for those two things. if car camping it's a different story of course, but, as this is a backpacking thread, when hiking i don't see how a bivy adds anything here; it makes both cowboy camping and sleeping under a tarp objectively worse. i only see a bivy being the move when it'd be impossible to pitch a tarp or tent effectively, and i don't hike in such scenarios personally.
in other words, it doesn't seem a bivy is useful if optimizing for hiking or sleeping/camping comfort, so I'm unsure of it's place. the mesh house you've posted is not a traditional bivy, btw. i totally see the point in carrying that and a tarp.
You have the top of the bivy open with a tarp over to keep rain off and the bivy is keeping your bag dry from water saturating the ground
so to be clear, when no rain or crazy wind I just sleep on my pad with a bugnet, no bivy. i don't really see the point. if it's raining or windy, that's why i brought the tarp. what the tarp can't do is stop bugs, so i bring something if i expect bugs.
this doesn't apply to crazy -30f scenarios which afaik the bivy was invented for. but for fair-ish weather 4 season backpacking in the PNW for me.
>Tarp + bivy is peak
they also infringe on the open nature of the tarp. benefit of a tarp is huge dry living space, by stuffing yourself in a bivy you're missing out imo. anyway that's all. interested in why you'd continue to use one. i'm going to get a 'wind bivy' (7.8oz) since it's worth the weight for the option to sleep without a tarp in windy areas, but aside from bug/wind bivies (which are really just bathtubs with some zip up netting, not real bivies) i don't get it.
HMG comes pretty close to solving this (but it’s a pyramid shelter, and $305 just for the bug net). Imagine a bug net shaped like this but designed for a tarp in an a-frame configuration.
that's not the kind of bivy I'm talking about. that's a 'net tent' or 'bug bivy', and for reason a bug bivy is not at all like a normal bivy or bivy sack. I'm talking about these kind of bivies:
. i think pic rel is a pretty cool set up with tarp and bug bivy though.
what sort of conditions? i've always heard condensation is terrible in them
https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/camping-and-hiking/bivy-sack/outdoor-research-alpine-bivy
>https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/camping-and-hiking/bivy-sack/outdoor-research-alpine-bivy
why did you post this
condensation is not a problem you just open the zipper infront of you face and you blow it all out, the rest goes through the Gore-Tex
it has pictures of it in many conditions
aside from costs, is there a reason/situation that you'd prefer this over say a zpacks duplex? the weights are basically equal, just wondering
no pegging needed
you mean hiking sticks or stakes?
neither, non-freestanding tents are limited to dirt only , freestanding and bivvys can be set anywhere with enough space
do you hike in areas where this comes in handy?
bruh honestly, I wouldn't have bought if if I didn't, I had a tent and was constantly annoyed at rocks stopping my pegs going in so I got something you can plop down anywhere with no setup and be weatherproof to sleep
its not some gimmick it works and it works well
Nah, just gotta get creative with rocks and such. I find the tarp better for this since I have more flexibility in guyline placement. For what it's worth the other poster, I use a lightweight bivy as well and a large tarp. I only really sleep in the bivy so the fact it is restrictive doesn't really come into play.
yeah there are tons of bug nets like that buddy, that's kind of the norm actually.
Ah you're one of those weight weenies eh. That makes sense.
>and $305 just for the bug net
There's plenty of cheaper clones
>Imagine a bug net shaped like this but designed for a tarp in an a-frame configuration.
That exists I'm sure.
>what sort of conditions? i've always heard condensation is terrible in them
This is too general a statement. Bivy's are made out of everything from trash bags, to Tyvek, to Goretex.
Tell that to my mesugaki demon e-girl wife
Enjoy getting crushed by your bike.
I'll be fine, I'm use to your mom riding me.
Hasn't happened yet. Kickstand plates are $10, crushed beer cans are free.
That's one thing that has completely baffled me about my "new" Transalp. Why would a dual sport get a 1x1" kick stand foot??
It's annoying how fast PrepHole has gotten
So they can make you buy a $30 anodized aluminum foot kek. I think Suzuki did something like that with one of the New V-stroms.
Read the filename for the bike pic moron. It's not mine, though I do use the same setup.
Your argument doesn't even make sense because if you're travelling like that anon you're never going to have a tarp that matches wherever you setup camp.
I bought a '89 Honda, if they think i'm spending more than the cost of fork seals and an oil change, they're crazy. Rocks are everywhere.
>read the filename
okay:
>57009242_1020576158136815.jpg
>you're never going to have a tarp that matches wherever you setup camp.
Missing the point- in fact, that's what I was saying. You spend extra on an autistic camo- and it doesnt even work- why not just use khaki or blue
I spotted it immediately. Soory I don't have eye problems, like you
>You spend extra on an autistic camo
You have no idea if he even payed for that, maybe it was on sale for half off, maybe he was borrowing it.
I don't know why you're so obsessed over this little moronic detail.
Maybe he just thought it looked cool?
>You have no idea if he even payed for that
Payed? You mean paid?
And true multicam very rarely sells for the same price or less;
>maybe it was on sale for half off
Yes, it would have to be for it to not be more.
>I don't know why you're so obsessed over this little moronic detail.
I'm not the one who responded to my joke
several times
don't be deflecting now
>Maybe he just thought it looked cool?
Sure. Doesn't match tho
would look cooler if it either matched or contrasted, not half-ass so
>2373504
He's not hiding from his gangstalkers, you fricking sperg.
>our best responses
>I also bring a tube of chips with my ghille suit by the way
Heh. Maybe next time you'll learn how to camp aesthetically
Nah , i don't do activities for the approval of others.
You answer questions on PrepHole for others.
I shitpost for the love of the act.
>just proved me right
didn't ya ?
Move on, man
no
See
and
nah, I don't care about ukraine-posting
/k/ in 2022 is boring spam
no.
same reason why I'm here. Shills from pol went to K to shill for Ukraine too
Aye. Actual schizos season there. and then with last week's meme, I dont even want to check
I like how you answered my question, again.
no.
Go back to /k/ homosexual
>hurr durr durr
Go back to jacking off in your ghillie suit sperg
And why aren't you posting images, this is an imageboard. You aren't phoneBlack folk are you ?
I JB welded some soup can lids together, works like a charm.
Holy fricking moron. Your reading comprehension is shit. Read my post again you autistic camotard.
No, i'm just drunk and/or moronic.
>And why aren't you (two different people) posting images?
I posted two pictures in this thread day one.
>My reading comprehension is shit, and I can't be straight forward with what I mean.
>Interpret my stupid post correctly !
What's your point? That it isnt your pic? Irrelevant. That the pattern will rarely match? Already answered that
Calm down and type slowly
>spending that much on a multicam tarp
>it doesnt even blend into the area
a very asian choice, sir
Where the frick are you seeing anything than a generic OD Green?
inside the tent, mate, on the ground there
the hint is when I said tarp
You're looking THAT hard to find something to b***h about??
>bivy
>heavy
you're doing it wrong
Just got a good discount on that bivy, waiting for it in the mail
Does carrying a umbrella but no rain jacket working for you? What kind of weather are you hiking in?
Sorry for the grammar lads
On this trip the rain was a very small amount on Saturday, with temps hovering around 80. Sunday was supposed to see more rain, but still nothing major. It works quite well in those conditions. If it had been cooler, and still a light rain, I would have paired the umbrella with a light jacket (an arctyrex squamish). If it’s really going to storm I bring a poncho.
A few pros of the umbrella:
>spf 50
>heat reflective
>blocks peoples view of you shitting
>keeps spider webs out of your face
>can catch a breeze and direct it toward you, sometimes
>in some conditions it’s the best rain solution
>temps hovering around 80
Why even bother then? Wear clothes that dry out quickly and let yourself get wet when it rains.
That’s a valid option too, but most people are more comfortable when they’re dry.
The sun bro. Not op, just another hikegay. I've never carried an umbrella for rain. I mostly use them for road sections in full sun
I'm from phoenix and that shit is gay. I just wear linen everything and a cowboy hat
If you never went without a stove you should really try it. It dropped the stove and never looked back.
this has been working for me so far, even in the snow. It’s not really the warm food that warms you up, it’s the digestion etc. was glad I left mine last time even though the snow was thigh deep at the peak
Yes nothing worse than a hot drink or meal. Who needs a house when you can live in tent by the highway. You stupid moron.
Look anon, theres various ways to do everything including ways you wouldn't. Some backpackers go stoveless. Cold soaking is an alternative.
If those are walmart "interceptor" steel toes you should be good.
Whats a good lightweight 2 person tent?
Didnt want to shit up the board by creating another thread about it.
Just something to keep rain and bugs out.
The MSR Hubba Hubba is sturdy but somewhat heavy, I like it.
Bro just jump right in and get a Dan Durston X-Mid. The 1 person is large enough for 1 person (the vestibules are huge).
I recently bought a MH Aspect 2 to replace my old worn north face stormbreak 2. The NF isn’t out of commission but the new one is 2 pounds lighter though gun to my head I couldn’t tell the difference. Also the new one has attached poles which makes it slightly harder to set up.
Sea to Summit Alto or Telo
X-Mid 2p in Silpoly
If you don't mind buying foreign-made, I've been using the Naturhike Cloud-Up 1p tent for a year and it's held up to some long AT section hikes. ~100 greenbacks and the construction is pretty solid.
X-mid 2 or Lunar Duo both are fantastic 2 person trekking pole tents.
Lunar solo my fav
I have to have my
tools
Tools of a larping homosexual.
You sound like you need a procedure.
That procedure is you tongue punching my fart box. Now lick my butthole you larping queer.
Oooh, got some of that edgy South Park humour! So fresh!
How do you store the kidneys?
If they are dry, in a bag like rice- if wet, in a tin.
The way I see it, when you cook you have to get it wet anyway and my climate doesn't have enough local water to rely on.
Are you okay, projection bot ?
Looks pretty light
13.8 pounds. It’s a pretty good balance of weight and comfort. The pole mod is about 8 ounces and isn’t really needed, but it adds a lot of breathability in porch mode and wind stability in another configuration. Plus I’m re-reading Around the World in 80 Days and books are surprisingly heavy.
Thats pretty gucci my dude. Do you carry a battery bank or keep it short and keep your phone off? How do you like the Exos 48?
My phone battery lasts a solid 4 days in airplane mode, maybe longer. I don’t track my hikes or anything like that. I do use a GPS app for quick referencing, and turn my phone off at night.
The Exos is one of the best packs ever made. The suspension system keeps the pack away from the wearer, creating a gap between his back and the pack. This allows a lot of airflow, keeping his back dry. And the elastic mesh reduces pressure points. Osprey uses a similar system on all of their flagship packs, while Gregory, Z-Packs, Mountain Gear, and at least one other company have similar systems. The Exos also has a streamlined design, with no extraneous pockets and a removable brain. It’s one of those rare middle ground packs between ultralight and more traditional, fully featured ones. They fricked it up after the model in the pic, removing the hip belt and shoulder pockets, and thinning some of the padding. It was a poor trade off of comfort and usability for weight. The 2022 model has hip belt pockets again (mine is from 2014, and has well over 1,500 miles on it).
Bad ass. Thanks for the input. I've been dragging an osprey aether 70 minus brain around for a couple years. Every time I reseach lighter packs I end up at the exo's. I go back and forth on 48L vs 58L as my adventures range from casual overnighters with buddies to packing for 5-6 days between resupply points.
You guys have really nice kits.
I'm too autistic/stupid to get a good tent, so I just use a tarp and make an A tent with bankline and lay on the dirt while wearing a poncho.
Had heavy rain one night and it was a miserable experience, so I upgraded to carrying a net hammock as well, to just get me ever so slightly off the ground(gotta keep a low profile for tacticool larp). Still need to upgrade and get a compass as well, but I'm undecided on what is worth buying. My longest camping trip was a a one way hike that took three days, and I called my buddy to pick me up on the other side of the state forest. Used sunrise/set to head in the right direction.
Don't talk negative about yourself; using a tarp set up requires more thinking than setting up a self-contained tent. If you want a good tent, they aren't all cheap 15$ or pricy 200+$; you can get good surplus stuff in-between. I have a french F1 tent for 40$ and a british mesh tent for about the same
Thanks for the support man, I appreciate it. Those F1 tents look like they're not too hard to set up... might be worth it to keep water out, since its tricky to find a good spot for a tarp A tent + hammock. I like bankline since it doubles for tent building and not just catfish, but sometimes too much gets used to set up camp.
my poorgay kit
My compass, parka, and medkit are missing from the photo because they were in my lbv. I normally use smart water bottles i pick up at a gas station for water storage.
Base weight is 17 pounds, the rifle adds another ten pounds. When im going to a more normie spot i just bring a pistol that adds only 2 pounds. Most of my hikes are three day weekends because of work.
ive been using a naturehike cloud 2 for 4 years now and have been surprised how well it has held up in bad storms. It is some chinese budget brand but i would recommend it. my compass is a cammenga, they are a bit bulky and heavy but it has never failed me in the 10 years and thousands of miles ive carried it.
Dont know what you need a medkit for, Rhodesians never die
But they do get blisters and headaches sometimes.
why chop the toothbrush so small? especially where its in a bag with a big deodorant stick and toothpaste bottle?
He fell for a meme. The whole “cut down toothbrush” thing started in the 90’s when ultralight backpacking became popular. Backpacks were becoming streamlined; we started seeing less compartmentalization and fewer pockets in general. As such, smaller items had to be consolidated into diddy bags (a phrase that now seems antiquated). Since space is limited with an ultralight setup, and just because it makes more sense to have a smaller bag than an empty one, toothbrush handles were cut down so they could fit into a particular bag. It was never about saving weight, though a lot of people simple assumed it was.
>The whole “cut down toothbrush” thing started in the 90’s
Here's a quote from Colin Fletcher's 1968 book "The Complete Walker".
"Oh, he's a genuine backpacker all right. He's got a filed-down toothbrush!"
Everything old is new again.
That line is from The Complete Walker IV, published in 2002.
Nope.
I mean, it's in that edition, since it's in the original, but my copy was printed in 1972 directly from the 1968 edition.
Yeah I've seen that in some ultralight load outs like Andrew Skurka but even they didn't file it down so much
Its actually a toothbrush head for my electric toothbrush
Maybe tooth brushes shouldn't be so long in the first place
>rhodie baby shit camo FAL
a man of culture i see
Are you actually in central africa or is this just larp? no hate just genuinely curious
Lol.q
Larp, covid ruined my first trip to South Africa.
>no hate
gay
Oh brother it's illegal to own the L1A1 SLR in my country but it's my favourite gun of all time.
mad jelly of that FAL
this is what i carry if i need to go for a many days trip
tiny hatchet is redundant just use the knife to split and chop its the same size, oh wait kabar you cant cause you'll bend the handle,
axe handle should be as long as your arm or its inefficient and the recoil wears down your hands
that saw is so shot it can only cut things that are small enough for you to snap anyway a silky big boy would let you process much larger wood so you can have logs for an all night fire
a long axe, short full tang knife and long saw covers all the bases
why have a head torch and a hand torch, if you really have to point light at something without looking at it just hold the head torch in your hands but you cant wear a hand torch on your head so its objectively inferior
Ka bars have shitty tangs, chances of it snapping is high.
you didn't even finish reading the line
Wasn't going to.
i bring the hatchet to do some hatchet trowing in the weeds.
the second torch is usually for my friend, he does not have one
based as long as the trees are dead already
carry the cooking oil in the flask. glass is heavy
Not a bad start my dude. Couple things that jump out at me. Your carrying glass jars of spices? Ziplocks. If that's liquor in the flask by a plastic pint, weighs less. Big knife, saw, and axle are memes unless your woodworking. Drop the 3 big bowls on the left. You can cook and eat everything in that tiny pot.
Most important go PrepHole and use it. Keep refining
yea those are glass jars, sugar, pepper/erbs, umami, honey and oil, i was scared of the oil one breaking and messing up my bag so i went with tough glass, they also fit perfectly in my green box, along with tea and a few bags of pepper.
the flask is just to be a larping homosexual, but i like the design, i usually carry it in my inside pocket with the sigars, so no bag space occupied.
the pot is one liter, it s often not enough for what i prepare, i usually go for a can of beams with 200g of chicken+half an onion,so i need at least a 1.5 liters pot just for all that alone, the 2 one is perfect to avoid spills
What's with all the nogunz
Nice sleeping bag.
I also like your raggedy Ann e-girl wig.
>this is what i carry if i need to go for a many days trip
i'm sorry
Ditch the kabar and get a proper full tang bushcraft knife, eese have some decent offerings, buck has some full tang options and the sog pillar is good but spendy. If you are really married to kabar, the becker line is alright but skeletonized. The only non full tang knife Ive encountered that is worthwhile as a bushcraft knife is the glock fm78 and good luck finding one stateside
>make a fun thread about complete gear loads and encourage others to post theirs
>knife gays shit it up
I hope you cut yourself
>gives me free unlimited tinder
seethe no-knifelet
>knifelet
iT's MiNiMaLiSm
>anon makes decent thread
>others frick it up
>your ass gets salty over it and blames op
Frick off you stupid homosexual.
>loadout thread
>discussing items in loadouts which include knives
>fricking up the thread
b***h more you sissy Lala.
>hey guys post your load outs
>only 4 load out pictures
LARP status of PrepHole confirmed
Never took a photo of my loadout and am too lazy to put it together just for a pic.
Not a pad question but hopefully someone can help here
I’m looking to get a new sleeping bag.
The only option for the one I want is the “long version” I’m only 5’10 so I don’t need the long version. Will getting a sleeping bag that’s too big for me cause any issues?
Nah. Stuff your clothes down at the bottom and then they'll be somewhat warm when you put them on in the morning.
Thanks fren. It’s only an extra 3oz and it’s actually in stock so I’m going. With that over my old and heavy north face bag
other than cringe glasses and book, nice set-up
you should get a handguard for that Kalash tho
>he doesn't like the croagies
Black person detected
speak English
>doesnt know how to speak English
that's an AK
What's the spray bottle for?
Maybe 5 years ago I noticed a trend in these gear load out photos. People started inserting themselves into the photos, lying on their pad. It’s become endemic; the gear selfie is now the norm. It’s men and women doing it, and I cringe every time I see it.
>no one has done this in the thread
>I need to MAKE a problem
What I think is you take your 'gear queer' gay shit to /k/
>What I think is you take your 'gear queer' gay shit to /k/
oh, I actually thought this was a /k/ thread, not gonna lie. I have other tabs open.
Nice
yeah they have a /gq/ thread and its awful
Dont worry too much anon, I do the same thing sometimes. Nice zoompap, you got any hiking gear? If not you should definitely get some and start going PrepHole it really compliments the hobby.
oh thats not my picture, its just some shit off google.
>hiking gear
I have a small cheap tent and a mat to lay on. I've been reading up a bit on this board to get an idea of what is useful for camping though.
What type of hiking or camping do you plan on doing? I can give some poorgay suggestions.
overnight fishing trip in New England state forests, mostly Maine. I would like to head into vermont as well, and spend more than a few days to not waste my time of course.
True. I'll have to sit down and actually measure out what a trip would be before I start putting something together.
Have you ever read "Big Two-Hearted River" by Hemingway?
It's not a treatise on backpacking or even fishing or anything in particular, but it does paint a picture of the kind of trip you're planning.
a pot that can hang and a bic lighter is probably the cheapest cook system, sticks that are small enough to pull off by hand is all you need and dry leaves as tinder to start it all free
Pay a few more dollars and you can put together the one I posted in the OP. The stove isn’t just cheap, it’s super light, silent, and has not moving parts.
>fancy feast stove (it’s a cat food fan with holes punched in it), $1
>a windscreen from old soda cans, free
>Imusa 1.25 quart (12cm wide) aluminum mug, $7
>mug lid, $8
I also used some high temp rtv to attach the stove to a large tin can lid as a base and priming pan. I also wrapped the stove in fiberglass rope for priming, and used the same rope on the mug handle for insulation. But really the pan and rope aren’t needed, and a bandana can insulate the handle.
Cans are lined with plastic. Enjoy your cancer soup.
I got one of these for like $5 and honestly it's some of the best $5 I ever spent. I even use it to cook at home sometimes. The paint burns off the first time you use it and then you can use a steel brush to clean it down to bare metal.
Ironic coming from a phoneposter
To the contrary, I wish more people would post pictures of two people sitting up in 2p shelters. two empty pads doesn’t tell me enough.
What do you gear queers think of those knife bag loadouts. Besides your tarp and and poncho, the rest of your gear is all in a small pack on your knife sheath.
Can't think of anything more lightweight than that. Considering trying it when the weather warms up some more, along with foot wraps, rather than socks, for ease of drying.
>besides your tarp and poncho
And cook kit and quilt and sleep clothes and ground pad and head lamp and maps and toiletries water treatment
If you’re not going far, you don’t need anything light. If everything fits in your knife sheath it’s because you’re not going very far.
What the hell can you even fit in there? Seems gay
Heh, it just came in the mail.
This thing is so cozy, there's a light smell of mildew, but it's super clean. Hoepfully the guy didn't wash it in a washing machine or something.
I can't wait to try this thing out in the field.
if it isnt winter where you are bring something to block the bugs off your face and out of your bag
Pic is another option.
Sew in a net
Why are you prefilling your pissbottle, OP?
It’s two strips of yellow electrical tape used to measure water for cooking. The bottom one 1/3 cut and the top is 1/2.
Because electrical tape doesn’t weight anything or take up any space.
oh, another case where the bivy makes sense, and i think this was actually the original use case, is for sleeping when pitching a tent is just impossible. like on a cliff / pure rock terrain or extreme snow. aside from that i don't really get it.
This is the kind of thing I'm thinking about getting. Blocks wind and bugs so you can tarpless more often. It's called a 'bivy' but it's not at all like a traditional bivy that anon posted, which is more like a GoreTex sack. It weighs 7.2oz.
How tall is it? Most trekking pole setups have a peak height just under 50”, and if that’s what they’re using in this setup, then it’s incredible small (can’t sit up in it, like the MLD in this pic).
it is like the one in your picture. they make another you can sit up in (pic rel). they also make just a hanging net which cinches around around your sleeping pad/bag, it's only about 2-3ft long and weighs 2.5oz. i got one coming in the mail i wanna try.
What is this one called?
Cirriform from Yama Mountain Gear. I haven’t seen in it in person but I like it, might grab one.
There aren't insects in the snow, idiot.
and being smaller sn't necassarily bad, it saves weight. though if i were to buy one i'd buy the one i could sit up in, may as well.
But then a passer by can see my morning fap
for *some* reason
zpacks duplex or a tarp and bug bivy i should say
>plastic
just curious since you called me a weight weenie, what are you optimizing for exactly? even if a bivy were as light as my tarp, i wouldn't bring it; it mitigates the benefits of tarp camping. i just can't see any optimization framework where a bivy makes sense. if pitching in a rocky area, tie onto rocks, and if pitching in snow do deadman's anchors. for me, both of those situation are rare, and dire, and if i expected either i'd much prefer my freestanding tent.
>just curious since you called me a weight weenie
Absolutely seething lmao
>couldn't find this thread because OP wrote "load out" separately
Op's a phoneposter, you can only expect so much
I'm using this as the geargay thread as well.
>he doesn't go innawoods and shitpost from his phone
>he's instead inside posting on his PC
Pathetic.
kys nugay
same
What happened to all my NEET PrepHoleists?
They either got real gear or realized how moronic they were.
>cotton norwegian ruckpack
very nice
Hey it's all you really need
I remember reading pic rel's blog when I was really getting into bushcraft/camping
>unironically an umbrella
LMFAO WHAT A FRICKING homosexual
I had a four mile road walk that Saturday with no clouds and temps in the mid 80’s, and it rained on Sunday with temps in the 70’s. The umbrella worked out great, just like it always has.
Also post a pic of your stuff.
Is this the rucking thread?
>rucking
No.
Yes, I don't care if you're a /k/ refugee.
Just post some stuff.
>/k/ refugee
/k/ is the father to PrepHole while PrepHole being the mother. It was so nice when PrepHole finally got it's own board, all the moronic threads got mostly contained here. Threads barely lasted long on /k/, so the same thread was created like every other day cause old one 404 to quick.
So I have some marine canvas and a wool blanket. If I want to larp as a cowboy and just use them as a bedroll, how fricked am I going to be from not having ground insulation? What if I include a Ranger blanket between the canvas and blanket?
Why not just use a piece of foam? Either that or a sack stuffed with hay or something.
>father left me when i was 1
>both grandpas passed away not long after
>never had a male role model in the family
>been trying to get into hiking, fishing, hunting but nobody to teach me
>bought some store recommended hiking gear but shoes are uncomfy, trousers' textile is bothering my skin, socks make me sweat, backpack moves around too much
>been hiking a few times on easy trails but everytime i go i get blisters and can't move for days
>visit PrepHole regularly but afraid to even ask questions because i'd just be blasted out
it's just over
what footwear do you use? and what socks?
merrel crosslander and some quechua socks
i'm not rich, store owner said they were good
he had a mustache and all so i believed him
ive been walking at nights too in the shoes perhaps it needs mileage but that didn't make it any softer
did you, like, just get them when you went hiking?
I wear merrels often for daily shoes and they are nicer on the heel than boots I have
are they laced snug? is there movement inside the shoe when you walk
well i went hiking first but had a suspicion it would give me blisters so i brought some spare shoes but ultimately i had to turn around because i was already heavily injured and the spare shoes were very light and slim so i could feel every piece of branch, rock etc, felt like i was walking barefoot
after that i started using the hiking shoes regularly, i think i walked about 200km in it so far at nights
then i went on a trail again and same thing happened
regarding movement, not so much, perhaps a bit at the back but it feels like a perfect fit, perhaps it should be a bit larger? don't know it's too late now anyways
pic related, that's the exact type
If you can feel shit through the shoe to the point it's hurting you, get boots. And your feet are just going to hurt after hiking long enough, but you shouldn't get blisters. You could try wearing another pair of socks on top of your current ones to minimize rubbing.
that's what you get for buying synthetic shoes, they don't form to your foot
don't get larger they will just slip and rub causing blisters
get thick wool gumboot socks they pad out pressure spots and wick away sweat while staying dry enough to not soften your skin. And leather insoles as they form to the bottom of your foot so the pressure is spread as much as possible
next time you need new boots get leather uppers with no lining
You may also just need to hike more, walking on dirt trails is going to be tougher on the feet than paved trails, find some nice well maintained trails to work on, then move on to harsher trails, boots should be pretty snug, and if you are feeling stuff through them very much you need better boots, for socks get something that's wool and switch out every six miles, this way your feet aren't getting ruined by having wet socks on
Moleskin will help with blisters, for the pack being loose you may have in set up wrong or just have a shitty one, what are you using?
For week long 3 season trips my essentials are:
>deuter aircontact 75 + 10
I never carry that much stuff but it's nice to not have to compress my stuff and play titres packing everything.
>MSR Pocket Rocket delux
>Toaks 900 ml pot
>GSI mug
>GSI spork
>Ursak Major 20L Bag
>Katyden Befree filter and CNOC bag with backup
>2 liter Nalgene bottle
>Hyke and Byke 15 degree bag
>Sea To summit air pad
>Big Agnes Copper Spurr 1 person tent
>Toiletries and poop shovel
>A Lighter
>Black Dimond Head lamp
>Pocket knife
>A change of cloths, rain jacket and a pullover
>A Pair of CROCS
>A Pistol
>Map and compass
>Small First Aid kit
>Cellphone with Gaia GPS app
>Small portable battery
Depending on mileage, landscape and local wildlife, sometimes I'll carry a camp chair, Bear spray, Bear canister, Garmin InReach, fishing tackle. a small tarp, a regular flashlight or a camp chair.
Base weight (without food and water) usually hovers right 24-28 pounds.
Seems like a nice and simple setup. I gotta start bringing less shit, but the shtf larp mindset has infected me: ccf pad to put under inflatable, firesteel, cordage, backup knife etc
Here's my loadout from a 4 day trip I did a couple weeks ago. Plz no bully
Top row left to right
Tent
Sleeping bag
Inflatable matress
puffy jacket
Fleece jacket
Sleeping/ dry outfit (long johns)
Rain gear
Backpack rain cover
How could I bully you when you're one of the few anons who actually contributed real shit to the thread.
And those digits.
Good shit anon
Th-thanks
I did, didn't have it packed at this point. Basically 8lbs of cliff bars, packet meat, and knorr rice sides in a ziplock.
I've had good luck with the benchmade bushcrafter 162. Available stateside. Excellent for woodworking. The thing is a beast, I've batoned it through some pretty gnarly stuff. I don't bring it backpacking but it would come with if shtf
Aside from the fact that its made by the worst knife company on the planet, who are cartoonishly villainous and actively steal designs/work to pass laws that restrict your right to have a gun or even a knife, thats an alright choice.
Thats a lot of stuff for four days
No
You didn't eat for 4 days?
must be an ultralight hiker
those gays love cutting out unnecessary weight
I did 40 miles no food felt fine stay heavy fatty
>actually being the guy the joke was exaggerating
>bringing deoderant
for what purpose
>first aid pouch with bandages/gloves/antiseptic/tweezers/etc
>small bag with spare 18650 for my main flashlight and a couple AA/AAAs for everything else
>small bag with lens cleaner and antifog spray and some microfiber cloths because i'm a glassescuck>medium bag with painkillers and migraine pills and all other drugs I might need while I'm out
>medium bag with charging cables, small power bank and wall adaptor, nitecore NU25 as a lightweight backup in case something happens to my main light, and a small battery charger that I can use to recharge 18650/AA/AAAs or use them to power usb shit if I need to
>big bag with high vis vest if I have to walk along busy roads at night, shitter paper, bug spray, emergency blanket, spare plastic bags, couple light weight drybags, some tarred bank line, spare glasses, basically everything that doesn't go in one of the bags
>big bag with water filter, adaptor for filling water bladder without taking it out of pack, some instant covfeve, and dried fruit or whatever other snaccs I have at hand
if I'm specifically planning a trip i'll add or remove shit and take sleeping gear and stove and some more food if I'm planning to be gone overnight, but this is my general purpose stuff that I keep in my pack whenever i'm going out somewhere
t. just finished reorganizing and repacking everything
Nice and autistic. Very good.
Packing right now for a trip within 12 hours, used 95% of this pack on a previous trip and it worked well.
A few questions though
The boot shown was used last time and it weighs a frickton, but is incredibly durable. I would rather use the sneaker, but is the risk of tears worth it?
What do you guys bring for consumables? I just kinda got an array of drugs/medicines and put em in a bag, and other than a jar of peanut butter I’m not sure what to eat (I wanna camp for two nights instead of one this time)
What are some good, identifiable things to forage in the Northeast US? I found lots of walnuts last time but the only berries were inedible
>What do you guys bring for consumables?
Foraging as a plan to feed yourself is a meme.
Nice
>Foraging as a plan to feed yourself is a meme.
There are times of the year when that's doable in some areas, but yeah, unless you really know what you're doing, foraging is a welcomed addition to your food at best. Good thing is that he's going for just two days so even if he eats absolutely nothing he's gonna be just fine.
>eats nothing
>starving the entire time
>muscle cramps, disorientation
>miserable for the whole weekend
He’s fine though
I’m not planning on not bringing food, that’s fricking moronic
I just wanna get better at foraging and learning the plants in my area
>I wanna camp for two nights instead of one this time
>I’m not bringing food, that’s fricking moronic
NGMI
Damn, I misread and misquoted. I’ll go play in traffic now.
>banana, orange, or apple peels
Gay. Anything that can be composted, including all fruits, coffee grounds, egg shells, bones, etc can and should either be burned or disposed of off-trail. An even hotter take is that anything that can be burned, including wrappers, plastics, etc should be.
where have I seen those new balances before hmm??
New Balances are the ultimate shoe
What is your bike called? Night rider? How much do they usually run for?
ESL-kun?
That is a Suzuki GS500, they're an air-cooled, carbureted, suicide machine.
They used to run for $2k-2.5kCAD, but since a lot of people have been getting into bikes as of late, learner bikes like the GS500 have actually gone up in price, going for $3k here now.
Really, they're a great beginner bike, easy to wrench on, fuel efficient, can do highways, and overall very simple.
You probably still find them for 1.5k-2k if you look hard.
Thank you! ESL kun??
Maybe it's just your post style, you type like you're English Second Language.
I don't know many anons that draw PrepHole and I'm curious to know if there's a compact sized pouch that could carry items that are approx 5.7in long and about 14mm max in diameter? I'm looking for one that separates them like these maxpedition pouches but as a single one (at least hold six of em).
Artgay here, your pens look crazy, bro ! Mine are a lot smaller so i just use a regular pencil case, but i really appreciate the aesthetic.
Can someone post or make a thread on how to pack a back for complete noobs
This lady has a triple crown. Good resource of general knowledge.
>yoga 'frick me' pants
Not interested in her 'opinion'
LoL. Okay fat boy, your loss. Not like anybody here has done the ACT/CDT/PCT. Among others
Go wipe off and calm down.
Hurdurr. Nice rebuttal. Bet your mom's stopped holding out for grandkids and is gonna have to settle for a dog. Or God forbid a bird.
oh man this is some serious projecting. I guess you're that channel's main demographic. Enjoy it !
cute self insert pic by the btw
That image is literally me. I can't wait to kidnap my perfect wife.
Bretty cool, but the M1 Garand is the only good gun.
if you put wine in that jug it will make the naughty and is very illegal without the proper licenses definitely dont do it
Alaskan hunting equipment minus insulation and gun and backpack
What's the best way to carry both tent and a sleeping bag when camping?
depends on how big your sleeping bag is, but you can strap your tent outside under your bag and keep your sleeping bag at the bottom inside of the bag if its relatively lightweight.
tent should be strapped to the top not the bottom, the higher above your waist the center of gravity is the less you have to lean forward to keep it balanced
https://info.deuter.com/blog/packing-a-backpack
Where does sleeping bad and bag go? Pad on the bottom, heavy sleeping bag on top?
sleeping bags generally aren't that heavy they go on the bottom and the bulk raises up the other weight,
sleeping pads weight next to nothing they often are strapped to the bottom,
tents often are strapped to the top under the claymore pouch as they are the first thing you use when setting up camp and gives you a place out of the rain to unpack the rest and they are the heaviest single item
food, water, stove, pot, clothes in the middle
wrong.
sleeping bag on bottom. heavy shit in middle (LIKE A FRICKING TENT) and other shit on top.
I am going dayhike next week, the terrain is a tropical rainforest incline from ~1000M to ~2000M elevation with average daytime temp at 23C, the track is 12km long. What should I bring other than water?
Bug net and spray
I got DEET spray ok, what else?
>clothing
Don’t wear cotton socks (they will cause blister) or underwear (just uncomfortable). Try to avoid cotton clothing (abrasive, heavy when wet). Bring a poncho or something if you’re expecting rain.
>food
You probably won’t finish 12km between breakfast and lunch, so pack something to eat. Keep in mind it might get squished in your pack.
>navigation
A map of some kind. It’s not like you’re going far, but if you don’t know that the trail is well marked it’s a good idea to have one. Day hikers getting lost is a very common problem in US National Parks.
>first aid
You don’t have to go nuts, but it’s a good idea to pack something to treat blisters, especially if you don’t hike often. I ran a hiking meetup group and it was a recurring issue.
>car clothes and a trash bag
Keep a clean outfit in your car, including shoes, so you can change and not have to drive back in disgusting, muddy hiking clothes. Toss your grimy clothes in a trash bag to keep the car clean.
>clothing
>Don’t wear cotton socks (they will cause blister) or underwear (just uncomfortable). Try to avoid cotton clothing (abrasive, heavy when wet). Bring a poncho or something if you’re expecting rain.
I'd wear polyester socks, I don't know about the underwear though, probably would just wear synthetic boxer, poncho is ready
>food
>You probably won’t finish 12km between breakfast and lunch, so pack something to eat. Keep in mind it might get squished in your pack.
I'd bring some snacks that would be okay getting squished
>navigation
>A map of some kind. It’s not like you’re going far, but if you don’t know that the trail is well marked it’s a good idea to have one. Day hikers getting lost is a very common problem in US National Parks.
Now this is the hard part, there is no map of the trails, so I'd have to rely on my phone to gps track my path so I would not get lost if I try to go back
>first aid
>You don’t have to go nuts, but it’s a good idea to pack something to treat blisters, especially if you don’t hike often. I ran a hiking meetup group and it was a recurring issue.
Yep, first aid kit is ready
>car clothes and a trash bag
>Keep a clean outfit in your car, including shoes, so you can change and not have to drive back in disgusting, muddy hiking clothes. Toss your grimy clothes in a trash bag to keep the car clean.
I'm getting there using public transport, but I'd have a hotel room to get back to.
Thanks anon.
I'm pretty new to backpacking
this comes out to 32.6lbs but I only bring the AR on short weekend trips, and of course doesn't include food and water weight which depends on factors
I need to get a first aid kit probably and bear spray
I'm open to advice
2 guns?
Well I wanted to shoot both of them but now I don't have extra ammo for plinking so I'll leave the AR. I honestly didn't think it was ten pounds with ammo but that's a lot to carry for no real reason.
That butter knoife, do you have a loicense, luv?
Do you camp in chicago or detroit or why the AR?
Uhhhh guns are illegal in detroit and chicago sweatie
Sorry sweaty i am an europeasant but i did carry a rifle in the army and couldn't imagine carrying one for fun outings even if our lords would allow such luxury for us.
It's mostly for larp value, there's not really anything bigger than a black bear in Alabama (I hope) so the pistol is probably plenty. I do feel like if I don't take the AR out with me I've basically wasted money on it. I was in night two of my first PrepHoleing without a buddy and woke up to what was probably a deer doing its horrific bark and I was very glad to have the extra firepower at hand. It also made me seriously doubt the merits of sleeping in a tent that I can't see anything out of. That was definitely the biggest adrenaline dump I've felt in ten or more years.
Hiking with a rifle for black bear protection is like wearing a condom so you don’t catch HIV from a girl.
I like the machete and the da/sa pistol, but get a good knife. Full tang, good steel, ideally removable handle scales. Or just spend 30 bucks and at least get a glock knife if you want to cheap out and still have a functional knife
Good stuff but get rid of that Olight before it explodes. Streamlight is around the same price and much less risk of exploding because of chink wiring
I hate this fricking filter like you wouldn't believe.
A Katadyn Befree doesn't have that problem.
Neither do the chemicals in the OP
Seriously there's nothing more frustrating than being thirsty as frick only to find a water source and having to struggle with the stupid sawyer to get a bit of water.
Whoever shilled this to me years ago on PrepHole was a c**t.
The frick are you talking about? Dirty water into the bottle, screw the filter on, press, collect water into a cup or directly into your mouth.
>press
>water flow is smaller than a ant's piss stream
>not a struggle
pick 2
If your filter is going to be sitting for a while, don’t flush it with tap water (especially if you live in an area with excessively hard water). My summer outings are fairly sparse because of the heat (mostly day hikes that time of year), and after a hurricane one year I didn’t hike for a few months. My Sawyer Squeeze (not the Mini, the regular sized one) was completely clogged. Everyone online says they should only be flushed with distilled water or water from a creek, but it doesn’t seem to be common knowledge. I’ve had times where it started to slow just after a few weeks, and always assumed it was silt or sediment or something, but now I’m really not sure.
tldr; i'm gay and here is my strudel recipe
>Long black tube thing: tarp in snake skins
>Red bag is my hammock and bug net
You know that the tarp, hammock and bug net are supposed to go in the snake-skin, at least that's how it works for the Hennessy Hammock.
Nah. This snake skin is much too small to put the hammock in them along with the tarp. Having the tarp in its own skin allows it to be hung but not “deployed”, leaving the hammock totally open during fair weather. It’s also nice to not have to duck under the tarp or walk around it while adjusting the height of my hammock, but that’s kind of a minor issue (the tarp can be flipped over itself if I want it out of the way).
Most importantly, I always assume my tarp will be wet, so I’m not going to store it with my hammock. That’s just dumb.