Australia is one of the most powerful nations on Earth Posted on March 14, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor Australia is one of the most powerful nations on Earth
Well, there's almost 200 nations in the world, so this is true.
the thing i most thank the australian army is all the comparison pics that illustrate just how fucking big armour is getting
as funny as this is, it's also true
besides NZ all the anglocunts are borderline great powers simply by virtue of existing, having some money and being buddies with america
there are only two other anglo countries other than the uk and aus so thats not really hard
Natural resources that if you don't buy them, it fucks your economy, and being outrageously defendable helps too.
>let America spend years and decades doing all the R&D to make the cool toys
>meanwhile spend your time digging up dirt and selling it to China for top dollar
>use your Chinese dirt money to buy the very best and most expensive fancy American weapons
>use them to kill the Chinese
You have to admit there's something beautiful about this global scale shitpost they're cooking up. Circle of life and all that.
spend your time digging up dirt and selling it to China for top dollar
>he doesnt know
be a good lad and buy our rocks
we have like a single division
Most of the army is reserves
The Reserves are a fair chunk of the manpower, but have close to zero combat capability. The reserve cavalry regiments are in Bushmasters and the reserve artillery regiment has mortars.
the reserve artillery is also trained on the 155s.
a few years ago, they were a few seconds slower over a small fire mission in a life fire mission at high angle. not bad for choccos.
t. Chin Ling Bong
Its less than a division, we have like 5 brigades, in terms of actual combat troops its significantly less than 10,000
our army is fucking tiny, then again there's not that many people here to begin with
quality>quantity and all that after all i guess
not sure why we were so desperate to buy more tanks when we're a fucking *island nation* and should be focusing on our navy but hey
We have been set up to be a specialised expeditionary force based around COIN, peacekeeping and disaster relief. Now we have to change that.
It's pretty funny that Plan Beersheba was completed 15 years too late, once it became basically useless.
Explain why Plan Beersheeba was well thought out and what time period in the ADF it would have also been effective.
Because our national security depends on the US navy. We need them to view us as an asset, not a burden, so we maintain a small yet highly elite army and tune them up for overseas deployment with the yanks. Same reason we've joined all their wars for the past century, even the dumb ones.
lol. he thinks the tanks are for fighting the enemy. they're 4 fighting uuuuuu!
Those tanks are for the next 8 nation alliance punative expedition.
a powerful nation produce its own equipments. China is a powerful nation, Australia is not
Stealing Russian and American shit and reverse-engineering it to something only 10% as actually effective doesn't count.
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I admire Australia so fucking much. Every olympics I'm reminded of that.
I've always saw them as "Brazil done right"
I wish I was australian. Are they in need of geologists?
>Are they in need of geologists?
we are full cunt
>Are they in need of geologists?
The mining industry will snap you up in seconds, it's a pathway to a skilled-migration visa and you'll make a fucking fortune.
>Are they in need of geologists
That's the one job always going no matter what.
It is also one of the most interesting places on earth geologically speaking.
Let me give you a single word: Arkaroola.
If you want to be here, and you are a geologist, there is no reason to be anywhere else.
Are they the most US subservient Anglo country of the bunch? Even the Canadians are more hands off and not overtly cooperative with the Americans in military matters, meanwhile Australia is dog on a leash Poland/old Turkey tier, if the US says jump then they will.
unironically americas greatest ally/bootlicker
And Australia gets 0 thanks for it, we are utterly cucked. Everytime a president thanks UK, Israel or Canada for being their greatest ally i want to kms. If I was PM i would demand the president make a 5 minute speech on why Australia is or cut off all military aid to America
They've just given us tech they've never shared with anyone
ship borne reactors are literally the most classified us technology
They literally shared it with the UK in the 1950s you sped
>The United Kingdom's first nuclear-powered submarine HMS Dreadnought was fitted with an American S5W reactor, provided to Britain under the 1958 US-UK Mutual Defence Agreement.
It's not just the reactor. The virginia class is practically a space ship
we are only being lent virginia class
the last one is the only meaningful one and is more of an anti china than pro AUS one
They're doing port visits so they can do training but we bought three of them with an option to buy two more
will we actually get them though?
>General Dynamics Electric Boat, the prime contractor for both the Columbia and Virginia class subs, has 17 Virginia class boats in its current backlog delivering through 2032
The Virginias and columbias are behind schedule, will America really prioritise giving Aussies subs over themselves?
We're not getting them for a while no but all three countries naval industries will be expanding in the meantime.
Yes because Australia isn’t getting new ones retard.
Yes, retard. The president of the US brought two prime ministers over to announce it live after years of negotiations. That level of commitment doesn't get walked back.
Also some of the bought subs will be used ones not new (according to Reuters), and the US navy gets a nice new Pacific repair yard for their trouble.
And the Aussies are funnelling about one billion dollars into US shipyards entirely separate from the costs of the subs themselves
i thought it was $3-4billion AUD?
>battle of Coral Sea not significant
>saves Australia from the Japanese
>gifts Australia the F-111 to cuck the Indoneisans
>Signs FTA with Australia while cowardly NZ is left to pound sand
>Excludes Australia from Trump era steel tarriffs unlike EU, UK, Canada, Korea, Japan or China (also argentina was excluded for some reason)
>Lets Australia have access to its SSNs technology only the 2nd cunt to have access to it
Why dont we thank America?
>saves Australia from the Japanese
to play devil's advocate on that gay's behalf america did take a very active role in the pacific theater both politically and militarily: to the point of excluding other nation's (mostly the UK) ability to fight and participate in theater, wanting it to be an american endeavor, while later assuming a position of political importance in meting out justice to the japanese government, to such an extent that nations such as australia or china felt (possibly, rightfully) snubbed over having their demands or considerations not met or executed - especially in the case of the chinese who had suffered for like more than a decade at their hand - and engendered no small animosity as a result.
that said and with the benefit of hindsight, lmao it was totally the right call so i will offer NO apologies or devil's advocacy in that regard
>or cut off all military aid to America
Whitlam threatened to close Pine Gap
Look what happened to him
>look what happend
he lost the election to Fraser?
Whitlam was a pinko and deserved what he got.
I'm sorry, but for your retarded politicians and "cultural figures" constantly pushing gun control in the US I unfortunately can not give you all the greatest ally designation.
Honestly I'm not blaming the Aussies for putting all their chips on America, it's easily their best bet and the alternatives are garbage if they're even avaliable that is, it's just funny how little the Americans care in comparison.
Don't be too hard on Biden, the guy doesn't remember his own name most days.
To be fair, Aus PM was essentially decided by roulette wheel for a while, so I can forgive Sleepy Joe for that one. Plus I'd want to forget Scott Morrison too if I could.
Dude we do get a fuckload of respect from them.
I know it sucks in terms of national pride and self determination; we would be much better off with higher taxation on mining; but that time has passed. We have to pull our neighbours together into a force that can survive a good many of the cunts' islands going under, and hold off China at the same time, and we need the US to help us do that.
>way of life similar to america
someone has pretty clearly never been to any country except america
Why the fuck wouldn't we fight for American order? Shit, we actually need it more than the Americans themselves do. Besides, what else is on offer, Chinese? Hard pass. Dog bles ameriga.
We have fought in every major war alongside the US, even wars that other Western countries wanted no part of (e.g. Vietnam). We love the US.
i was literally listening to vidrelated
as i opened this thread and could not have been happier. dog bles osdralia :DDD
We were peacefully coup'd by the CIA during the Whitlam era. Please understand.
>Australia is one of the nations on Earth
The US should move all of their Minuteman silos here, around Perth and Brisbane.
>The US should move all of their Minuteman silos here, around Perth and Brisbane.
>Not basing them in Melbourne
There are an estimated 270 active missile silos in the US and only 31 local government areas within the Greater Melbourne area. That means every LGA could host 8 missile silos with 22 remaining to be concentrated at 15 Bon Accord Ave, Bondi Junction, and 65 Martin Place, Sydney.
australia couldn't even beat emus
you people are weak af
>All of this happened because China sanctioned Australia for saying there should be an investigation into the origins of COVID.
Well done, Chang. You made a country that was heavily financially linked to you hate you enough to break its ties and become one of America's most hawkish allies in the region.
The political and cultural shift in this country has been truly remarkable to witness first-hand. Before the Pandemic, people had a fairly apathetic view towards China, and people who expressed hawkish views on China (e.g. Andrew Hastie) were marginalized and mocked.
Now, after everyone has personally suffered as a result of the Pandemic, people have become very hostile to the CCP. The Pandemic also caused people to start paying attention to all of the awful things the CCP does (Uyghur oppression, Tibet, Hong Kong crackdown, threatening to invade Taiwan, tyrannical police state, debt-trap diplomacy, openly viewing us and the free world in general with contempt, etc.)
Now, both major parties effectively have a bipartisan view on the PRC, and are pursuing identical defense and foreign policy. Labor used to be moderately pro-China, but now they are staunchly against them, save for a few holdouts.
Even fucking greens. If only we can get them to be pro nuclear power…
>16.An international ban on the manufacture and use of arms that indiscriminately kill, maim or cause long-lasting pollution including but not limited to landmines, cluster bombs and depleted uranium; and an immediate end to Australian Defence Force participation in any joint training or military operations with other military forces, where those forces are utilising such weapons.
Greens are fags
Call me a bleeding heart but landmines do make me sad. They always end up maiming a bunch of poor bastards for a decade after the war
its probably only because they so far have mostly blown up brown kids that nobody cares, if we get a war in europe where mines are blowing up whitoids 20 years after they might get banned
>Reduce military spending to 1.5 % of GDP by buying fewer guns and tanks, and ensuring that we have a light, readily deployable and highly mobile force that meets the needs of our place in the world,
greens hate Australia
They're just very naive, but so are most Australians, otherwise the ADF would look very different.
Since 2009 white paper outlined the need for a stronger military force and more capable submarines in particular, very little has been accomplished.
Let's not forget that the LNP was asleep at the wheel for the better part of a decade.
Anyway, let's tax resources companies as they do the rest of the world, as well the Rhineharts and Forrests and use that to finance our new aquisitions.
Ikr, saying "utilising" instead of "using" is so fucking pretentious.
labor isn't realy anti china, they are pro nuclear subs (which was done by morrison) but are trying not to anger china, which imo is the best move
They are not as open about it as the Liberal Party, but they clearly see the writing on the wall. China is not our friend.
They can’t be because of the Chinese labor voters, it’ll be really funny watching Aussies deal with the rising nationalism and anti Australianism from Chinese nationals over the next few years. Labor are fucking cowards about gambling, the only party to oppose cashless cards.
Chinese citizens mostly vote liberal, though.
Voting patterns are changing now that anti-CCP figures like Andrew Hastie are rising in the LNP.
>In August 2019, he wrote an opinion article, "We Must See China with Clear Eyes" for The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age newspapers, where he stated that Communist China, rather than Islamic terrorism, would be the real security concern of the 21st century. The piece was criticised by the Chinese Embassy in Australia, who denounced the remarks as reflecting a "Cold War mentality", while Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan accused Hastie of "threatening WA jobs with extreme and inflammatory language."
he has been consistent and principled shame LNP chose a ghoul over someone like Andrew
My hunch is that Andrew is being primed to serve as leader after Dutton. Dutton will probably take the LNP to the 2025 election, and Andrew will take over after that.
Not afraid to tell the truth even when it was unpopular. Hastie is a legend.
>They are not as open about it as the Liberal Party
The Libs and the Nats are totally compromised by Chinese interests, we are very fucking lucky we had the election when we did.
Completely wrong. It used to be led by people who were friendly with China, but that has changed. Anti-CCP people are running the show now.
You misread the situation. Anything that you are noticing is actually a fall in our diplomatic quality and public discourse in general. Previously our international policy with any of our threats was to say very little, infiltrate like mad and push a ridiculous amount of paper towards the right people outside of the public arena. All that dumbfuckery around covid represented a fall of our power because our political class increasingly became too stupid to really deal with intelligence and spycraft.
Then somehow the ASD broke through and copped a bigger slice of the pie. Hopefully it's in time. Hastie is a tosspot, btw. Wish you would stop mentioning him.
>You made a country that was heavily financially linked
not for long the reliance on exports to china is dropping while expoets to the rest of asia rise. Chinese investments in Australia are down 70% as the Government targets Chinese SOEs too
Australia is not a nation, it is chinese colony, both by demographic and legislation.
its an American colony now
Will they get B-21? cool!
The Australian E-7 is an enormous asset and I wish this was more publicly known.
Sit down and drink your VB, Mick.
Sadly, the Australian pollies are much more hawkish than the cucked Australian population. And if you go to Melbs or Shitney you might as well be in Singapore or Macau.
All that and none of it is being used to protect this country from migrants.