>just take lift assets and use them as shittier attack helicopters
unironically this, missiles will get bigger as range becomes more important, and longer range means less necessity for maneuverability. so unless you plan to lob a maximum of two missiles every sortie, you're gonna need bigger wings.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Dedicated attack aircraft will always have higher weapon payloads compared to similarly powered, retrofitted utility variants due to the lack of waster space/weight on internal cargo.
see: DAP vs Apache, AH-1 vs UH-1 gunship, Mi-24 vs Mi-8
basically, shut up
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Hellfire is old tech and can reach out 11 km according to Wikipedia. Brimstone can apparently hit out to 40. Missile is fine.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
JAGM is even longer ranged
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That thing is so new that I didn't even know it exited, damn. Anyways, missile is fine.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
about 16km
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
oops meant to reply to
JAGM is even longer ranged
JAGM's merit is neither it's range, it's payload or anything of the sort, it's the interoperability.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The range is a bonus, the dual seeker is more significant.
If you want rotary wing fire suppression, just put some guns and rockets on a utility chopper. AH proponents are like the Soviet bureaucrats who fought to keep the heavy tank alive despite its obvious obsolescence.
so useless that china reviewed attack helicopter performance in the gulf war and the GWOT and decided that they were highly effective and ordered 2 models of it
Kinda sad. That’s true. At least the old method of point blank rockets has too many risk.
But that’s what early cold war helis are built for. Just see how early ah1 looks like. You would find the word Disposable on every part.
*without standoff munitions
a manpad can see you farther than you can find them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directional_Infrared_Counter_Measures
What's the tactical advantage of turning yourself into a more obvious target against any non-retarded missile?
>attack helicopters are outdated
>just take lift assets and use them as shittier attack helicopters
>"Go to bed grandpa, vietnam was 50 years ago"
>just take lift assets and use them as shittier attack helicopters
unironically this, missiles will get bigger as range becomes more important, and longer range means less necessity for maneuverability. so unless you plan to lob a maximum of two missiles every sortie, you're gonna need bigger wings.
Dedicated attack aircraft will always have higher weapon payloads compared to similarly powered, retrofitted utility variants due to the lack of waster space/weight on internal cargo.
see: DAP vs Apache, AH-1 vs UH-1 gunship, Mi-24 vs Mi-8
basically, shut up
Hellfire is old tech and can reach out 11 km according to Wikipedia. Brimstone can apparently hit out to 40. Missile is fine.
JAGM is even longer ranged
That thing is so new that I didn't even know it exited, damn. Anyways, missile is fine.
about 16km
oops meant to reply to
JAGM's merit is neither it's range, it's payload or anything of the sort, it's the interoperability.
The range is a bonus, the dual seeker is more significant.
Implying the MANPADs would even notice a hellfire coasting from 10km
give it missiles with double digit kilometer ranger
1960s tech that far outlived its niche thanks to PGM, countermeasures and digital 2C
>Bro just fly air assaults without fire support bro trust me bro it's outdated
>what are fixed wing aircraft
Something not integrated into a CAB, unable to provide rapid fire suppression at an LZ?
Go to bed grandpa, vietnam was 50 years ago
Fixed wing cant take advantage of local terrain like an attack heli could, and it needs to circle back around
Something that does not exist for air assaults 99% of the time unless you can magically spit out an entire extra Air Force right now
You're fucking retarded anon, it's a massive pain in the ass to coordinate fixed wing with a combat jump, let alone every single fucking air assault.
>Something that does not exist for air assaults 99% of the time
misquote?
If you want rotary wing fire suppression, just put some guns and rockets on a utility chopper. AH proponents are like the Soviet bureaucrats who fought to keep the heavy tank alive despite its obvious obsolescence.
They just need long range missiles and then you've got a fast, all terrain himars.
>all terrain himars
you're gonna need a bigger helicopter that would cost as much as a fixed wing aircraft
I'm intrigued, tell me more.
so useless, that the apache is serving until 2030, has been upgraded in the meantime, and will be replaced by another helicopter
sunk cost, america is still living in a gwot fantasy land
so useless that china reviewed attack helicopter performance in the gulf war and the GWOT and decided that they were highly effective and ordered 2 models of it
>U.S. military buying something means it’s useful
It's hilarious how you can always tell when a thread was made by turdies.
why would turdies shit on their only realistic chance at gaining some form of air power?
just add some SPIKE NLOS
Kinda sad. That’s true. At least the old method of point blank rockets has too many risk.
But that’s what early cold war helis are built for. Just see how early ah1 looks like. You would find the word Disposable on every part.