Attack helicopters are useless.

Attack helicopters are useless.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    *without standoff munitions

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      a manpad can see you farther than you can find them

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directional_Infrared_Counter_Measures

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What's the tactical advantage of turning yourself into a more obvious target against any non-moronic missile?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >attack helicopters are outdated
            >just take lift assets and use them as shittier attack helicopters
            >"Go to bed grandpa, vietnam was 50 years ago"

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >just take lift assets and use them as shittier attack helicopters
              unironically this, missiles will get bigger as range becomes more important, and longer range means less necessity for maneuverability. so unless you plan to lob a maximum of two missiles every sortie, you're gonna need bigger wings.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Dedicated attack aircraft will always have higher weapon payloads compared to similarly powered, retrofitted utility variants due to the lack of waster space/weight on internal cargo.

                see: DAP vs Apache, AH-1 vs UH-1 gunship, Mi-24 vs Mi-8

                basically, shut up

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Hellfire is old tech and can reach out 11 km according to Wikipedia. Brimstone can apparently hit out to 40. Missile is fine.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                JAGM is even longer ranged

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That thing is so new that I didn't even know it exited, damn. Anyways, missile is fine.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                about 16km

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                oops meant to reply to

                JAGM is even longer ranged

                JAGM's merit is neither it's range, it's payload or anything of the sort, it's the interoperability.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The range is a bonus, the dual seeker is more significant.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Implying the MANPADs would even notice a hellfire coasting from 10km

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    give it missiles with double digit kilometer ranger

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    1960s tech that far outlived its niche thanks to PGM, countermeasures and digital 2C

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Bro just fly air assaults without fire support bro trust me bro it's outdated

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >what are fixed wing aircraft

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Something not integrated into a CAB, unable to provide rapid fire suppression at an LZ?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Go to bed grandpa, vietnam was 50 years ago

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Fixed wing cant take advantage of local terrain like an attack heli could, and it needs to circle back around

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Something that does not exist for air assaults 99% of the time unless you can magically spit out an entire extra Air Force right now

        Go to bed grandpa, vietnam was 50 years ago

        You're fricking moronic anon, it's a massive pain in the ass to coordinate fixed wing with a combat jump, let alone every single fricking air assault.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Something that does not exist for air assaults 99% of the time
          misquote?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          If you want rotary wing fire suppression, just put some guns and rockets on a utility chopper. AH proponents are like the Soviet bureaucrats who fought to keep the heavy tank alive despite its obvious obsolescence.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/k06sIIC.png

            >attack helicopters are outdated
            >just take lift assets and use them as shittier attack helicopters
            >"Go to bed grandpa, vietnam was 50 years ago"

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They just need long range missiles and then you've got a fast, all terrain himars.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >all terrain himars
      you're gonna need a bigger helicopter that would cost as much as a fixed wing aircraft

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm intrigued, tell me more.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    so useless, that the apache is serving until 2030, has been upgraded in the meantime, and will be replaced by another helicopter

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      sunk cost, america is still living in a gwot fantasy land

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >U.S. military buying something means it’s useful

        so useless that china reviewed attack helicopter performance in the gulf war and the GWOT and decided that they were highly effective and ordered 2 models of it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >U.S. military buying something means it’s useful

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's hilarious how you can always tell when a thread was made by turdies.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why would turdies shit on their only realistic chance at gaining some form of air power?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    just add some SPIKE NLOS

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda sad. That’s true. At least the old method of point blank rockets has too many risk.
    But that’s what early cold war helis are built for. Just see how early ah1 looks like. You would find the word Disposable on every part.

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