ATF MAINTAINING ILLEGAL GUN REGISTRY

>A recent doorbell video recording from a Delaware resident prompted a Republican lawmaker to question why agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives asked a legal firearm owner for his weapons’ serial numbers without a warrant.
>“I’m extremely concerned by the reports of a surprise and unwarranted firearms inspection conducted by the ATF. This incident occurred the same day Steve Dettelbach was sworn in to head the ATF, and it is exactly the kind of action I was concerned about under his leadership. ATF agents did not have a search warrant, and they had to rely on pressuring the homeowner for consent,” Rep. Matt Rosendale, Montana Republican, told The Washington Times.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jul/20/gop-lawmaker-calls-atf-explain-video-agents-asking/
>A Washington state sheriff recently advised residents in his county that if agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) come to their homes without a search warrant asking to inspect their firearms, they can tell them to leave their property.
>Klickitat County Sheriff Bob Songer said in a press statement on Friday that agents are “making surprise home visits of persons who have purchased two or more firearms at one time. To my knowledge, these ATF visits have not occurred in Washington State yet.”
>“If the ATF agents do not have a search warrant signed by a judge, and you have told them to leave your property and they refuse to do so, call me, and I will make contact with the agents,” Sheriff Songer said in his statement. “If they still refuse to leave, I will personally arrest the ATF agents for Criminal Trespass and book them into the Klickitat County Jail.”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jul/22/sheriff-suggests-residents-tell-atf-agents-conduct/

tl;dr ATF is tracking people who buy more than one gun at a time and sending agents on fishing expeditions

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Video in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN6jZKrzOmo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This incident occurred the same day Steve Dettelbach was sworn in to head the ATF, and it is exactly the kind of action I was concerned about
      >My first day!
      >Quick, send out search party that takes weeks to prepare!
      How can people this stupid manage to chew food and stay upright in a chair, let alone get elected?

      >Video in question
      >clickbaiting YT whore chimping out
      Groundbreaking stuff

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hi Steve

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the lgs that snitched him to the ATF, he also lives in the ghetto

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That retard could simply tell them to come back with a warrant and close the door, like i told you the last time you made this thread

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tell them to come back with a warrant and close the door
        That's obstruction.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not even close

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you open the door for a cop, they can legally position their foot to block the door from closing. If you try to close the door on their foot, that's obstruction and assault.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/54468301/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that entire thread
                Ever notice how certain posters get really MAD whenever anyone calls out the ATF here? They usually accuse OP of being a shill for some reason.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OP posted a twitter screencap was a retard

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lol no it is not. Police do not magically get to force their way into your home by simply placing a foot into a door. You knock on someone's door and try that maneuver and see how fast you get a trespassing conviction.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You knock on someone's door and try that maneuver and see how fast you get a trespassing conviction.
                The difference is that (You) are not a cop. If you open the door for cops, they can and will take that as an invitation to barge in and shoot your dog.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not going to argue this with you because you obviously have an agenda (attract fedpoasters), but you damn well know that without a warrant, without exigent circumstances, no hot pursuit and no consent you cannot just barge your way into a house in the united states.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It would be your word against theirs. Just don't open the door until they get a warrant.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No they can’t now quit lying like a moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Police do not magically get to force their way into your home by simply placing a foot into a door
                Watch this video and tell me what you can do WITHOUT closing the door on the cops boot Other than wasting your time at an ungodly hour of the night not letting them in.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >perp lunges at the officers at 8:02
                This is clearly self defense on the part of the police. I'm shocked the charges were thrown out. The streets just became more unsafe for everyone. Back the blue!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You knock on someone's door and try that maneuver and see how fast you get a trespassing conviction.
              The difference is that (You) are not a cop. If you open the door for cops, they can and will take that as an invitation to barge in and shoot your dog.

              you're watching too many cop shows retard

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you're thinking of Vampires bro
              easy mistake, they're both evil creatures who know that dogs can sense their true self.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, vampires need an ACTUAL invitation. They can't just barge in and later claim that you actually invited them (because in the court it'll be their word against yours).

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, that's them trespassing on private property and being stopped. Closing the door on someones foot after they've blocked the doorway of your house is not assault by any definition, and it would only be obstruction if the officer had some legal permit to enter, like say a fucking warrant. No warrant? Then get the fuck off of my private property.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're forgetting about the distinction between peaceful entry and forceful entry. You can slam a door in the cops face in the former case, as shoving their foot in the door constitutes force.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Trusting the ATF after Ruby Ridge
    baka

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who here is trusting the ATF? Why do you concoct a false narrative in your head?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    While it doesn’t surprise me, I get the feeling that there’s more to the story. Either he’s an FFL, he bought a bunch of firearms close together, or one of his guns was found at a crime scene

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if you watched, that's exactly what happened, he purchased more than 1 firearm at a time, this apparently flags the purchase to be 'checked' to make sure there's no straw purchasing going on

      im not agreeing with this, just explaining what happened

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The article just says he bought seven guns since January. It doesn't specify if he bought seven guns all at the same time or just one gun per month. The ATF agent who showed up at his house claimed that they get a multiple purchase report whenever someone buys more than two guns at the same time. FFLs have to fill out another report or something whenever someone buys more than one handgun within a week iirc. The idea is to stop gun trafficking/straw purchases, but it's no illegal to buy more than one gun at the same time ffs. I usually buy two guns at once just to skimp on the $10 NICS fee, and to keep from having to go to the gun store twice. I don't want a posse of BATFags knocking on my door asking me to show them my guns just because I bought two handguns a few months ago. Now if someone did something like buy five identical Glock 19s at the same time, then yes I could see how that might be worth investigating, but it should still require a warrant. The article didn't specify what guns the homeowner bought.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the story is the govt is garden gnomed beyond all recognition

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >arrest the ATF agents for Criminal Trespass and book them into the Klickitat County Jail.
    And US Marshals will arrest the sheriff for obstructing a Federal agent.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not if the state police arrest the Marshals first

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Federal agents carrying out their lawful duty are immune to state criminal law.(In re Neagle)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Neagle's actions were consistent with a congressional statute which provided U.S. Marshalls with "the same powers, in executing the laws" as state sheriffs and deputies

          Still need a warrant unless there are exigent circumstances, supremacy clause means fuck all here.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >lawful duty
          Nothing lawful about demanding a homeowner show them his firearms without a warrant based on the registry they're not supposed to have.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're not immune to a sheriff's bullets.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks one law enforcement branch will ~ ever ~ actually obstruct another

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1. It’s not lawful. They don’t have warrants
          2. They aren’t immune to bullets

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you are on a private citizen's property without a warrant and they ask you to leave, then your presence is illegal and you are subject to arrest, fed fuck or not.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And how are they gonna make me leave? Felony assault of a federal officer for a 20 year prison sentence?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you so desperate for (you)s that you have to larp as a fed on a Guatemalan tire repair forum?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well probably like the glownig in Columbus they'll force you to comply at gunpoint, cuff you, taze you if you get uppity, then throw you in the back of a car while they try to figure out if you're a common criminal subhuman or genuinely a government agent that thinks they're not subject to trespass laws.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When you are before a Fed, you are like a peasant before a Lord in medieval times. Accept your place.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Trespassing isn't lawful dipshit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If the federal agent is harassing people on their property without a warrant they are not performing any valid law enforcement function.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If the Federal agent is
        >They are not performing any valid law enforcement action
        Fixed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tell that to that gay ATF agent who got arrested and taxed by the Columbus PD. God, listening to him cry was fantastic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sauce?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2020/12/10/atf-agent-accuses-columbus-police-officers-excessive-force/6505667002/
          Surprisingly, the feds are aghast when they receive the same treatment that cops routinely dish out to normal people. I only wish this shit happened more often.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Columbus PD were trying to establish his identity. Police can't just walk away from every crime or suHispanicious incident when the perp says he's a Fed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the Sheriff can be there a lot faster than a Marshall

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are infinitely more sheriffs than US marshals

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the ATF
    I hate the ATF
    I hate the ATF

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me too!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Inshallah, they shall be disbanded and all former employees forced to be dickwashers

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >meanwhile, in California

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mexican happy bean
      I don’t get it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Luis Bracamontes. Heroic cop killer. Got the death penalty and promised he'd break out soon and kill more.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post skin color

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Whiter than all of them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Luis Bracamontes. Heroic cop killer. Got the death penalty and promised he'd break out soon and kill more.

      dilate

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"making surprise home visits of persons who have purchased two or more firearms at one time"
    >tfw I was actually considering getting a pistol and parts to build an AR at the same time as my first guns
    Surely this isn't a guaranteed "this will happen to every person" thing, right?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it definitely doesn't happen to everyone
      that's why people suspect something more is going on here

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, I've transferred as many as 4 firearms in a single day with follow-up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most likely it depends on where you live. If you're in a high-crime metropolitan area or a border state, then I would be careful about it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay first, do the math. There are 1714 ATF field agents per their website and approximately 82 million US gun owners. That is one per 50,000. Furthermore, FBI NICS reports an average of 2.6 Million checks a month. Even if only 5% of that was 2 or more SNs on a 4473, each individual agent would have to see 4 purchasers per business day of every month. 2.5/day if they choose to knock doors on weekends.
      Second, why the fuck do you care? Absolute worst case scenario, you tell them no and slam the door while calling 911 and they shoot you through the door. Whoopie, your family collects the insurance, hires an attorney and sends some pigs to jail while making bank on the civil suit. Best case, you say can I have your names and badge numbers? I'm filing a formal no trespass against you so that if you set foot back on this property without permission from a judge, I'll have the police remove you."
      Finally, why are you so pussified that even interacting with law enforcement rustles your jimmies? They're mostly degenerate alcoholic wife beaters with a few good souls and a few evil ones but humans nonetheless. Be educated, know your local and state laws well and record everything. CCTV system for your home is like a $400 investment.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >your family collects the insurance
        Most policies don't pay if the death is caused by a law enforcement officer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have bought multiple guns many times. They have not in the past done anything, now in the future might they start going after gun owners who buy more than one guy? I think probably.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're doing it because the senate finally confirmed a new ATF director for the first time in literal decades, and because Biden just signed that new "bipartisan" gun control law the other week.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe but the video was from months ago about february. If it happens again you have evidence that may be true

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"Get off my property."
      >ATF fag seethes and dilates as you shut the door in their face.
      Encounter done.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ATF goons are lazy. Redflagging shit like buying two handguns at the same time, or buying oil filters on alibaba is a great way to seem like they are doing something. Meanwhile they funnel guns to the cartels to get mexicans to blame american gun culture

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate BATFags

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if the homeowner refuses to show the guns, that's probable cause that' he doesn't have them and made a straw purchase. ATF can use the SRT (SWAT team) to search the house. Civvies need to learn to comply with searches unless they want a SWAT visit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pulled directly from your asshole
      You have the absolute right to remain silent, and have no affirmative duty to play slong with LE who show up without a warrant. Not answering questions has never been probable cause, ever in any court case.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can sing that song when the first flashbang comes through your window.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can hardly wait.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if the homeowner refuses to show the guns, that's probable cause that' he doesn't have them and made a straw purchase.

      That might get probable cause to run surveillance on the suspect but no chance in hell would a judge give you a door kicker grant.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Federal LEO, open up and let us trash your home, shoot your dog and threaten your wife and children!
      >Show me a warrant and ID, please.
      >No, we don't have a warrant and I won't show you my ID!
      >Well then, I invoke my 4th and 5th Amendment rights.
      >Look out, he's invoking his constitutional rights! That's probable cause! Bust down the door and shoot his dog right now!
      You glow like the surface of the fucking sun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there's no evidence that you committed a crime
      >that's probable cause to call in SWAT!
      you're the big retarded

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck off badgemoron

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how to get shot as a federal agent 101
      oh, AND you're a civvie.
      AND you won't do shit.
      AND God laughs when we gun you down

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't even need to be God. Youtube comments are enough to restore my faith in humanity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not remotely how probable cause works to any concerned retardanons reading this. But nice bait

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ATF MAINTAINING ILLEGAL GUN REGISTRY
    I wouldn't worry about it.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>“If the ATF agents do not have a search warrant signed by a judge, and you have told them to leave your property and they refuse to do so, call me, and I will make contact with the agents,” Sheriff Songer said in his statement. “If they still refuse to leave, I will personally arrest the ATF agents for Criminal Trespass and book them into the Klickitat County Jail.”
    No need to, I invoke castle doctrine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No need to, I invoke castle doctrine.
      Forget shooting them outright, arrest them yourselves. Just keep them tied up on your floor until they start to smell, then bury them. Or, skip a step and just bury them alive.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the government has to solve mass shootings
    >*govt does something*
    >noo not like that and in fact I will gun down every government agent who tries to do anything
    why are americans like this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hello friend
        the reason is because the mass shootings are government operations
        have a good day

        >>*govt does something*
        >*govt orchestrates more mass shootings*
        ftfy lad

        >government ignores vast majority of all mass shootings
        >the corporate media complex uses handful of incidents to create a narrative for the government that legal gun owners who have obeyed the laws and played by the rules must be punished
        >the media complex completely ignores that the government is irresponsibly allowing rampant gun crime and violence to occur by people who repeatedly break the law because of their "equity" agenda
        >the government forgoes using existing laws or creating new laws through the legislative process
        >the government ignores court rulings that protect constitutional rights
        >the government breaks it's own laws and regulations and goes after law abiding citizens while allowing violent criminals back onto the streets with catch and release policies and cashless bail policies
        >cucked rerard Euro opens his inbred mouth to cheer on government authoritarianism because his inbred peasant brain believes that we are all property of our garden gnome overlords

        >nogunz third-worlder is obsessed with sucking government dick
        yikes

        https://i.imgur.com/8yeSD3w.jpg

        how come mutts have the highest rate of schizophrenia and paranoid delusions in the world?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because our government is larger and more powerful than your entire union of meaningless nations. We have a government that runs the fucking world, not a village of people who have been sucking their handlers balls for centuries.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its tradition

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is why PrepHole needs flags. We should be able to filter irrelevant nogunz shitters so we can have discussions in peace.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i bet he has a american flag

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Flags are for fags

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't need flags, that would just encourage more le epic low effort flag banter than we already have. Mods should just make it so posting on 4chan, redd/int/, or /bant/ bans you from all other boards automatically. Maybe wordfilter some of their buzzwords for good measure.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The bootlickers were sent home.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >highest rate of schizophrenia
          Lol not even close Chang. It’s you first, then pretty much all of Southeast Asia, then India. Nice projection though, schizo bugman
          >https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniabulletin/article/44/6/1195/4995547#122707962

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm surprised Chinese are actually intellectually capable of schizophrenia. They don't seem to have a complex enough sense of self.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My guess is heavy metals poisoning in the water supply. Combine that with a propaganda machine designed specifically to exploit and amplify nutjobs...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      hello friend
      the reason is because the mass shootings are government operations
      have a good day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>*govt does something*
      >*govt orchestrates more mass shootings*
      ftfy lad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this

        >government ignores vast majority of all mass shootings
        >the corporate media complex uses handful of incidents to create a narrative for the government that legal gun owners who have obeyed the laws and played by the rules must be punished
        >the media complex completely ignores that the government is irresponsibly allowing rampant gun crime and violence to occur by people who repeatedly break the law because of their "equity" agenda
        >the government forgoes using existing laws or creating new laws through the legislative process
        >the government ignores court rulings that protect constitutional rights
        >the government breaks it's own laws and regulations and goes after law abiding citizens while allowing violent criminals back onto the streets with catch and release policies and cashless bail policies
        >cucked rerard Euro opens his inbred mouth to cheer on government authoritarianism because his inbred peasant brain believes that we are all property of our garden gnome overlords

        and especially this

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >government ignores vast majority of all mass shootings
      >the corporate media complex uses handful of incidents to create a narrative for the government that legal gun owners who have obeyed the laws and played by the rules must be punished
      >the media complex completely ignores that the government is irresponsibly allowing rampant gun crime and violence to occur by people who repeatedly break the law because of their "equity" agenda
      >the government forgoes using existing laws or creating new laws through the legislative process
      >the government ignores court rulings that protect constitutional rights
      >the government breaks it's own laws and regulations and goes after law abiding citizens while allowing violent criminals back onto the streets with catch and release policies and cashless bail policies
      >cucked rerard Euro opens his inbred mouth to cheer on government authoritarianism because his inbred peasant brain believes that we are all property of our garden gnome overlords

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Serious question: do you care about policy victories, or are you all in on fuck-the-world nihilism with no hope of improving anything? I ask because that was a really well written post that I was thinking "nail on the head" to up until the very end. I'm not expecting my random post on PrepHole to convince anyone to move away from a "garden gnome overlord" mindset, but do at least just... keep it to yourself. Imagine if I was a tourist to PrepHole on the fence about what you're writing about; you could have convinced me. Instead it's "oh wait of course I don't believe that, because that's the type of person who does".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          question: do you care about policy victories
          There is no such thing as "gun policy victories" when it comes to the USA and gun laws. Every single gun policy and law is a step back from the second ammendment onwards.
          It's also because of morons.
          If you're an euro don't worry, in a few years you will know what it's like to have lots of morons around given the open borders and all that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AIPAC and ADL exist and you think "garden gnome overlords" is a step too far.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Noguns do not have opinions, they do not have voices, and they certainly don't have lives.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Imagine if I was a tourist to PrepHole on the fence about what you're writing about; you could have convinced me.
          We have too many fucking tourists who have never shot let alone held a gun. I don’t want them here. You shouldn’t either.

          I am concerned about the truth and the truth is garden gnomes have an incredibly disproportionate amount of power relative to their population size. They are also always the politicians pushing for gun control. Those are facts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nogunz third-worlder is obsessed with sucking government dick
      yikes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "government does something" is honestly the worst solution to the problem. just look at whatever corrupt, inept shit hole you're from. Has the government helped you be *doing* things?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>>the government has to solve mass shootings
      they tried it in virginia and it's deemed racist so theyre not really out there trying to solve mass shootings
      https://vdare.com/posts/richmond-va-police-introduce-operation-red-ball-to-arrest-potential-shooters-but-they-re-all-black-people-living-in-exclusively-black-public-housing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and this will stop mass shootings how?
      are you retarded?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guess because we're better than you.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This shit is why I never turned over my books when I closed my 01.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >making surprise home visits of persons who have purchased two or more firearms at one time
    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you think got one of them newfangled algorithms?
    determine who gets a knock knock for buying too many guns?
    police state by formula
    nice

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if atf goons show up at the door just call the police

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like multiple handgun purchase 'investigations'. I've had one before and posted about it here, everyone just called me a liar.
    Pretty much atf requires a 3310.4 to be filled out if you purchase 2 handguns (or receivers) from the same dealer on the same day. This also notifies local pd and the atf.
    After I made my multiple purchase (5+ single transaction), local pd called me and asked me if I intended on selling them, just fishing a little. I told them no I'm a collector and they said oh cool have a nice day. Pretty much it. The argument is its supposed to help prevent strawpurchases. If I have this form reported a dozen times and the atf shows up and I have none of the guns they think I'm a trafficker.

    Wouldn't recommend interacting with law enforcement though, my luck with small town pd in one of the most gun friendly states might not be your luck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >local pd called me and asked me if I intended on selling them
      Even if you did, it doesn't matter if you legally transfer them, right?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Key word is "intent." If you purchase guns with the intent to turn around and sell them for profit, you need an FFL. If you're just selling guns you don't want anymore out of your personal collection, then you don't need one unless it becomes your primary source of income.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What about christmas gifts to family members?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats legal

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >ATF agents are childless wine aunts

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Or Karens?

      [...]
      >"those gosh darn gun nuts!"
      >stereotypical karen look
      is the atf starting to employ pozzed libbies now?

      [...]
      I wonder if she's ever been intimate with a man?

      Why did janny delete the post with the video? Can someone repost it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wow fuuuuuck these people. Good job all you gays who didn’t vote for Orange man bad. Elections have consequences.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Why did janny delete the post with the video?
        because he was mass replying

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Or Karens?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >"those gosh darn gun nuts!"
    >stereotypical karen look
    is the atf starting to employ pozzed libbies now?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >starting to
      ATF is where all the rejects who couldn't get into the FBI go.

      What about christmas gifts to family members?

      Gifts aren't sold for profit. I'm pretty sure gifts are ok as long as the recipient is legally allowed to own the firearm. There's a question on Form 4473 that asks you if the firearm being transferred is a gift.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I wonder if she's ever been intimate with a man?

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i bought 10 cheapo anderson AR lowers on one 4473 to stockpile for just in case shit gets banned, when should i expect my ATF visit?

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