>Assault groups of PMC "Wagner" took the center of Soledar. The city is being cleared. The defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine collapsed.
>Units of PMC "Wagner" closed the boiler in the area of the Soledar outpatient clinic north of Salt Mine No. 4 and began to clean up the city.
>The local administration (Soledar City Council) is already under the control of the musicians.
Bakhmut in the process of being annihilated.
>we did it Vova! We liberated the Donbas!
Vgh, the liberation of their fellow Kievan Rus brothers...
Why do Ukrainians behave like Palestinians and use women and children as human shields? Supporting Israel, i cannot condemn Russia for this less i be a hypocrite.
Looks like your standard eastern European city
This is why Ukraine needs to be liberated by roZZya. They can't even maintain a beautiful city they inherited from the USSR. Looks like shit.
>level it with artillery
the old russian standby
I still dont understand why you morons want bakhmut so bad. It's like the fentanyl ridden alcoholic's version of sunk cost fallacy.
You don't understand. The alternative is that life is bad in Russia for no reason and they may as well kill themselves if that is true.
they need something to show off esp now that the amx,chadley and marder are being send.lets not forget that bombed ammo depot and their failed retaliation(where they didnt even hit the target).you could say that its their new tank webm that they will post for the next 6 months.
It's the last line across which Putin can plausibly claim not to have been utterly crushed, because at that point he will have lost land russia already controlled at the start of the war.
A staging are for the future offensive maybe.
Just look at road and railway maps. There is nothing there apart from a major mining complex. Which, to be fair, would be a viable economic target. Apart from that, the town has little value other than presenting the russian public with something that resembles success. It overlooks one MSR from the north to Bakhmut (T0513) west of town and T1302 on the east, which was already unusable for the Ukrainians.
There is nothing that can be staged from there.
Artemiwsk at least has direct access to a highway and a train station that could be used to unload ammo and vehicles.
Well, Jerkin' Gherkin at least says it has no strategic value, only some tactical value at best. According to him it's mind-bogglingly retarded to keep wasting troops there instead of somewhere that actually matters.
Because Bakhmut is slavs Alamo
By morons you mean Ukrainian or Russian?
Both seems to be pretty desperate to be in control of the area
It's the centerpiece of the Zelynsky Line, basically their version of the Maginot Line. The collapse of that line will be a morale blow to the AFU.
>Collapse
They left front lines they couldn't defend for a frontline from where they can advance. I see nothing wrong with that decision, as long as they keep the grinder on, bleeding Ukraine and Europe.
>bleeding Ukraine and Europe.
This is what I like about you Humanly-challenged vatnik folk, you just take the things we say and then use it yourselves. It makes you easy to pick out of a crowd
I thought you said that about popasna, it was supposed to end exactly 2 weeks after it was taken?
To be serious, after Bakhmut there is also the Kramatorsk-Sloviansk line, which is the real bitch for the Russians to crack, but the fall of Bakhmut will still help, just as how Popasna led to Severodonesk/Lysychansk.
Funny you mention the maginot line, because the only relevancy it has to the current scenario is maybe a zoomed out view to never trust empires east of you and subvert your goals for sniveling sycophantic subhumans north of you.
Literally no human has ever said the words “Zelensky line” unironically
It is solely the purview of subhuman vatmorons
You want me to believe they unironically call this the Zelensky line you better show some proof otherwise you just look stupid.
its the biggest city they think they can take. clearly thinking wrong since they could just now maybe actually take soledar for more than a week
nice trips
No shit. Why are ukranians dying for this dump?
'Cause R*ssoids offered them to die in even greater numbers in return. Hard to turn down an offer that enticing. Sure, maybe they'd lose fewer people at some point further back but then they'd also get to kill a lot fewer R*ssians, presumably. If you get to kill 6-7 orcs for every one of your soldiers (and there's been even higher KDs claimed for Bakhmut specifically), that might just be worth it. At a large enough scale R*ssia couldn't sustain this loss ratio even with full-on whole-country mobilization, not that they seem capable of that in the first place.
Reputation.
Hence the reson they keep bleating about Fagner taking ground when it's actually the regular army doing it for them while Fagner claims credit.
Why was Verdun needed in the first world war?
Verdun wasn't needed. Matter of fact, it was regarded as a huge fuck up even at the time.
The third Orb is there
After failing to retrieve the Kiev orb, and losing the Kherson one, the Russians desperately need it's power
even russia's telegram wins are lame
>Six months later, we're still 10km from Bakhmut
vatnikbros..we're back
A fucking village with a saltmine. Remember when ruskies would be razing entire cities? How did it degenerate to this as their biggest victory in half a year
Why do they want us to be impressed?
>we didn't wanted Soledar anyway! I'm not PrepHoleoping!! ahhhh I need my estrogen!!!!
God this is so good, the irony is not even noticeable to people like you.
1 year ago ukraine was to fall in a single day, Europe could fall in a week.
But you have moved the goalpost so far that now we have people like you acting smug about a single town after 8 months and thousands of deaths.
Vatmorons have gone from thinking they were the top military in the world to genuinely acknowledging ukraine as an equal in war.
I love you retards, never change.
It is pretty amusing. These "people" have less self awareness than a dog licking it's own arse in the street.
remember when they dropped all their VDV off at Hostomel Airport because they didn't really need them and it would make the feint more convincing?
The VDV did decently well at least at Hostimel, not that it matters much when the main Russian force meant to link up with them ran out of gas and or was stoped by TDF units with some mortars and domestic ATGMs
They did trash. Many people like to compare it to Market Garden but thats wrong. In Market Garden they landed within the AO of multiple German divisions, including armored ones, which were quickly re-enforced with half a dozen more divisions.
In Hostimel the VDV was met by... one battalion of pro's and a bunch of militia. Later re-enforced to a scratch brigade of Pro's.
The VDV successfully took the airport, held of a counter attack, and then were finally pushed off when the actual UKA showed up with tanks and artillery.
They aren't super soldiers or whatever but performing a contested helicopter landing against entrenched enemies and then holding onto their airfield for a number of days after repelling a counter attack is impressive and speaks to their skill.
I don't think it is any mark against them that they got rinsed and force to retreat before being wiped out once they were completely surrounded and their relief force was completely stopped from reaching them.
The VDV are probably the only Russian unit that performed exceptionally well throughout this whole war, although it seems that at this point they no longer exist as a functional combat unit after being sent into the meat grinder as lightly mechanized infantry once the Russians initial thrust for Ksneediv completely failed
Anon.
They took a position that was minimally manned. They got pinned within it by a bunch of fat reservists. They then got mogged by a bunch of internal security units. Thats the criticism. It was light-fighters v light-fighters and despite that they got fixed, fucking hard.
Dude they completely repelled the attack by the "fat reservist" you are talking about, the majority of their (VDV) casualties were taken during the second attack when they were forced to retreat off the airfield into the forest to the west by Ukrainian artillery after having held the airfield forma number of days.
Of course light airborne infantry with zero support got butt fucked but armor and artillery, saying they didn't was never part of my argument.
The VDV performed their job of taking and holding Hostimel in preparation for the main Russian force, in the end they were obliterated after heaving fighting that ruined most of the airfield because that main Russian force completely failed to materialized.
VDV got fuckin rekt lmao
yeah dude they got blown the fuck up when surrounded and out numbered no shit.
My whole point is the same could and would happen to any other airborne unit left completely unsupported against large numbers of well trained and equiped troops because their fucking relief force of starving conscripts ran out of gas, gots lost, got stoped by mortars and ATGMs, etc.
The whole incident speaks imo less on the capabilities of the VDV itself or airborne forces in general and more on the total dysfunction of the Russians military and the retardation behind the Russians initial invasion plan
>achieve a small initial success
Their whole job was to capture the airfield in preparation for the arrival of the northern Russian push and later landing of more troops and supplies, my whole argument which you have yet to refute is the VDV successfully performed their part in the initial Russian attack but were eventually wiped out primarily due to the complete failure of nearly every other part of the Russian's initial Invasion.
>left completely unsupported
Russia supposedly had combat aircraft. They were mostly no-shows.
because Russian political and military leadership completely underestimated the Ukrainian air force, air dense, and general will to fight amongst the the military, political leadership, and citizenry
>My whole point is the same could and would happen to any other airborne unit left completely unsupported against large numbers of well trained and equiped troops
And yet the Market Garden paras managed to invade, capture, and hold Arnhem for 4 days, and then Oosterbeek for an another 5.
>achieve a small initial success
>get fixed by 3rd rate troops
>unable to disperse
>suffer colossal losses when 1st rate troops show up
It was a fucking fiasco anon.
dont bother arguing, there's two guys who have been here all year, and all they do is ctrl+f for VDV and say the same fucking thing every time it comes up, that the VDV got stomped out by "3rd rate militia", he knows what point you're trying to make, people have been making it all year. He just obsessively wants to believe that VDV were killed to the man by mall cops with small arms and not the regular Uke militaries artillery. Everyone with a brain has concluded VDV did well for what they were tasked with and that their failure and decimation is a result of dogshit military planning and bad luck as opposed to super soldier minutemen
they were attacked by civilians with guns and could not land the IL-76s
the mechanized brigade arrived much later
cope cope cope
>driven off and exterminated
>not even a speed bump, accomplished nothing
>did well
For Russians, maybe. Actually functioning non-mongoloids would consider that an irredeemable failure however.
>God this is so good, the irony is not even noticeable to people like you.
>1 year ago ukraine was to fall in a single day, Europe could fall in a week.
Hitler lost
Maga lost
Ukraine will lose too
But how? I would like to hear a single plausible scenario where Russia wins this war. What does winning the war even mean at this point?
Or, as you prefer saying that Ukraine will lose, what would be Ukraines victory condition? And how exactly is Russia going to keep them from achieving that?
this pretty much; russia has destroyed it's economy, become an international pariah, and continues to funnel russian men into the meatgrinder as it's population levels plummet - even it wins militarily, which it won't, russia is still a massive loser in this conflict.
this is more cope - can't you guys at least be honest
this has made russia stronger and the west weaker - china and india are now closer to russia and if you can't see how bad that is for the west, have a nice day lol
it is pretty funny watching this all go down - salt mines are real
>china and india are now closer to russ
yeah, good luck with that lol.
Cope seethe dilate.
Amazing
meanwhile, in reality.
>we didn't need gostomel airport!!!
>we didn't need bucha!!!
>we didn't need irpin!!!
>we didn't need sumy!!!
>we didn't need kiev!!!
>we didn't need kharkiv!!!
>we didn't need snake island!!!
>we didn't need lyman!!!
>we didn't need izyum!!!
>we didn't need bakhmut!!!
>we didn't need kherson!!!
and I'll give you this, Wagner using human waves to capture a peripheral town with very little IFV and APC support is pretty impressive, until you have to pay for postage for all those mangle corpses you have to send back. this assumed they aren't just thrown into a ditch and the family is mailed a lada a 200 monopoly bucks.
Can't forget
>we didn't need the Moskva!!!
>corpses you have to send back
Lol
They are not army
They don't need to send back shit
They don't need to pay pension to their families (just one bonus, but Wagner are experts avoiding payments)
>Okey, You took donbas.. but.. but You coundn't take Kiev!
I am going to hear that cope several times this year. Lol
yeah, but it isnt cope - it's the truth. Russia has shown a truly pathetic performance in this war, and has strategically failed on all fronts.
Remember HOMO cops driving into cities with riot shields? fuck me, it's embarrassing.
That feelsguy got scammed hard, reality looks exactly the same as the russia lost simulator
Russia losing looks like a town defended by thousands of Ukraine’s hardened fighters since July, with real time NATO intel, getting stormed by Russian convicts?
>thousands of hardened fighters
Yeah, cool, nice 10k pop town. It only cost you the entirety of Kherson city and the entire north of Ukraine.
Why are you so obsessed with the town’s pre war population, what a sad means to cope
>pay no heed to how tiny the city is!
lmao
Other Ukrainian brigades should see how much NATO really cares about them. The 46th released an official statement about huge sacrifices , acts of bravery, difficult situation, etc. and their supporters are online saying “nope, tiny, didn’t matter, makes no difference, entrenched strategic positions are only valuable if at least 10,001 people lived there before the war”
hows the weather in indiana today fag?
I don't give a shit you stupid fuck. they are emboldened by defending their homeland, they don't need NATO's "moral support" to accept their assistance with equipment, nor should their decision to be assisted by NATO's opinion on such things. all that matters is for Russians to die. I respect their right to defend themselves and that's about it, I'm not going to clutch my pearls over every tiny thing. I'm only here to watch Russians die. so die you fucking Russian pest, die and fuck off with your subhuman barbarian culture
A small town means a small town size, which means smaller tactical importance. Russia wasted tens of thousands of men, "convicts" or otherwise, zerging into a town over and over again until it finally worked. Imagine if the Russian brass had brains and actually used so many men to actually perform a tactical maneuver, the town could've been taken far quicker and with far less casualties that Russia is in no position to be able to recover from
Yeah you also hear
>okay we couldn't take buck-moot but we took a small village no one heard of three weeks ago!!
>Hohols btfo lmqo xdxd xaxaxa
Is this more of a cope or a seethe?
Have you considered dilating?
Soledar wasn't a thing until Russia "almost captured it". Even Bakhmut wasn't in the news until they got stuck there for 6 months.
You are correct. Soledar is more important than Kherson or Izyum. Putin will finally give you a real life e-boi now.
>our 40 km convoy getting stuck on the road to Kyiv a year ago was just a feint to capture a company of tunnel rats guarding the strategic target of salt-mines in Soledar
this,
the reality of all russian victories in this war is a simply motto "when in doubt, zoom out"
I know you have never played KS you fucking newfag
Estro-wah?
They are too low on artillery shells so they are using artillery more rarely and on a smaller scale while they slowly build up their stockpile.
Fighting is going to pick up again from this back and forth trench stalemate in the spring.
Russians will have finished another mobilization and refilled a portion of their munitions stockpile.
Ukrainians will finally have received Western armor in bulk, along with the return of an estimated 60'000 fresh UKA troops from their months long training programs in a number of Western European nations.
Once fighting picks up again expect things to move very fast, even more so than the first few months of the war.
This sounds like Fucking cope. It's like if you were saying you are not giving a blowjob just because you are holding your mouth open and still and getting facefucked.
It's not cope and I'm not pro Russian or whatever, plenty of western defense analysts that correctly predicted the coming war are saying the same thing.
Russia blew it's load the first 5 months of the war as a lot of their ground strategy be it at the tactile or strategic level is reliant on lots of mixed artillery, the same thing was true of the USSR.
They have reduced their consumption rate of shells to smaller actions and or defensive actions against UKA probing attacks so the rate of expenditure is above replacement, with the hope being they can recoup enough of a reserve for another large offensive.
I doubt their domestic production will be enough, nor will they be able to by enough from sympathetic foreign powers, especially when a large portion of their "new" artillery shells seem to just be from previously written of older stockpiles that have been refurbished where possible
Unless Liveuamap confirms it you can eat a dick bro
Like Kherson, Soledar is now forever Russian.
>Like Kherson, Soledar is now forever Russian.
>t.Chink Chank Chong
more like
>t. padoopatel poo hinloo
>the musicians
Cringe.
I think it's nice that they add a little class to this clusterfuck
>Ukraine collapsed
>Taking one (1) village in six months
i thought they captured Soledar like 4-5 days ago?
Yes but this time they got a random zoomed in picture.
I have to congratulate Russia, after 8 long months they finally managed to advance 1 (one) village. Truly the performance of the 2nd strongest military. Bravo!
>The city is being cleared
"city" will be cleared of fagnerites soon enough
the corn is being popped
It only took being routed out of Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Kherson for something close to a Russian victory.
What is Mariupol, Melitopol, Crimea, Severodonetsk....
>What is Mariupol
Chechen don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
No more!
The 11th, 34th, and 44th largest cities in Ukraine, and a peninsula that Russia has already held.
Two Pyrrhic victories for Russia, and Melitopol has become the capital of partisan resistance, and Crimea is fairly easy to cut off from support.
Exhaustive list of places in (formerly) Ukraine with functional power grids?
A few lil' cities the R*ssoids managed to capture early on when Ukies were still in a disarray and Western aid hadn't really started yet. They, too, will get scoured of orcs in time.
Aaaaah. Good old cope stripes.
Dies anyone have that map of the total collapse of the Ukrainian front?
Why are Russians so intimidated by these?
What extra sad is russians/serbs on twitter are actually just using NAFO pfps in order to try to "flip" the meme (they also try and use the "smoking accident" meme).
Never even heard of Soledar until a few days ago. What's the deal? Just a logistics gimp for Bahkmut? Or is this a major take? Defensible highway, big rail connection?
it's part of the pisky interdimensional hyper cumfortress, taking the salt mines of khazad dûm guarantees the fall of the city of keev
It's a town and russkis took it. They haven't done that in months and they're really excited about it. It has a mine but like...Unless they plan on mining in an active warzone I don't see how that matters.
>It's a town and russkis took it.
Bro, there isn’t even solid reports that they took the western part of the town yet. Vatniks are literally cooming themselves over the PARTIAL capture of 1 town, ONE FUCKING TOWN.
Oh great another Soledar thread
morons at least wait until we have more proofs or AFU gtfo from the other side of the town.
PrepHole lost
Elaborate
Cope reddit chud. Soon hohols will fall and then poolacks will be next on the chopping block
Why are you obsessed with Reddit and transvestites? And how does that relate to PrepHole losing, what ever that is supposed to mean?
>8 months and thousands dead trying to take Bakhmut like it's the most important city in Ukraine or something
>fail
>take some tiny town close to it and announce great victory
LMAO
Based. I hope that Russian army will now push it to pooland and punish poolacks for their insolence. Extermination of poolacks is a matter of only 2 moths
There is one village left the size of Optyne and the supply lines to Bakhmut are closed.
it is over, mega PrepHoleope incoming.
Now imagine nafo trannies PrepHoleope when pooland will fall
Main supply rout is H-32 form Kostyantynivka which is in no way threatened.
This is either mega-hopium or bait.
I think you are, if this is genuine. The Russians gace up on bakhmut and are now celebrating the capture of a small hamlet, at great cost, which was largely done so that the owner of wagner could make $$$ if the war ends in Russian favor.
Russians already attacking Killshcilvka it's over
They've been doing that for weeks you retard.
>we continue to run into a brick wall
>surely this is it
Idiocy. Utter idiocy.
Wake me when the Russians break H-32 or M-03 or anything that actually threatens Bakhmut.
>53rd Mechanised will stop them!
/k/ope
They have been stopping them for the past 6 months...
No they haven't because Wagner just went through Soledar like shit through a goose and there are only two forts on a rise stopping the Russians from advancing right now and cutting off bahkmuts supplies.
/k/ope
>Seething chud has no response
Lmao btfo
/k/ope
again, btfo.
>No they haven't because Wagner just went through Soledar like shit through a goose and there are only two forts on a rise stopping the Russians from advancing right now and cutting off bahkmuts supplies.
Again, there are two MSR's into the city. The other MSR into the city on the South. Soledar is on the north. This is no way threatens supply.
>No they haven't because Wagner just went through Soledar like shit through a goose
Taking 6+ months to take an objective on the periphery of the main objective is not taking something "like shit through a goose". Its an abysmal failure, even more so since the Russians have given up almost entirely on trying to take the city.
The biggest failure of all is the massive cost of trying to take Bakhmut, which is a largely pointless objective.
Wagner just beat the shit out of two mechanised two tank and two infantry brigades holding a small sized city. 53rd is already getting their ass beat back again after losing Andriivka, Odradivka and Opytne ealier and no amount of PrepHoleope PrepHoleope PrepHoleope will change this.
>4 brigades
>on a frontage of 2-4 miles
Yeah, sure.
>53rd are getting beat!
They have been getting "beat" for 6 months. How has that worked out thus far?
well they lost Andriivka, Odradivka and Opytne that's how it worked out for them PrepHoleoper.
>in 6 months we have managed to push them back <5km! HA! Hows that working out!
Working out fantastically. Another 15 years and Russia will be on the outskirts of Kramatorsk.
Why did Ukraine just lose control over Bakhmut Hoholsisters?
/k/ope
Did they?
Didn't they?
You're the one making the claim.
chudzizter, it's over. You have to take more territory than you lose to win. Russia has lost 53% of what they gained. We cut our dicks off for nothing.
hoholsister you are still losing though your post didn't change anything.
>Creeming his pants at the potential of taking a small town after months of fighting and tousands of dead ruskies
It really must be easy living live this retarded
chudzizter, Russia retreated from 3 fronts. We lost. I wish I had my penis still, it would make Russia's humiliation more bearable...
hoholsister you post still hasn't changed anything the Russians are still winning
chudzizter, how did we become so deluded to think surrendering 53% of our gains is winning? Is it the oestrogen doing this to us? We are real women, aren't we?
hoholsister i checked for you again your post still hasn't changed anything and you will still never be a women.
chudzizter, I checked it myself and Russia is confirmed to be losing. Does this mean we'll never be accepted as women?
hoholsister i can confirm Ukraine is no longer in Soldear and you still have no penis.
But chudzizter, is it forever Russian like Kherson? They said they'd never leave and they did like our penises~~*
A couple of botched air assaults and some convoys getting stuck around major towns doesn't count
The closest we got was the Kharkov counter offensive
>retreat from Kyiv
>retreat from Kharkiv
>retreat from Kherson
>capture a small town
RUSSIA IS WINNING!
from Mariupol
from Melitopol
from Soldear
from a small town
>Ukraine IS WINNING!
You're kidding, right? Or were the Kharkov and Kherson offensives so painful you repressed your memories of them?
Any day of not being r*ssia is a victory.
Keep coping, it won't change the fact that russoids are garbage at war lol
Two more weeks, am I right?
Why had Russia lost over half the territory they had at their peak chudzizter?~~*
>Wagner just beat the shit out of two mechanised two tank and two infantry brigades holding a small sized city.
Soledar was being held by the 46th Airborne and a territorial battlegroup.
The 93rd got rotated into Bakhmut proper in December
>the might of Wagner!
>witness who we scattered the volksturm!
kek
>Wagner just went through Soledar
Goose typically take less than 5 months to excrete.
What the FUCK happened near Svatove?!
The Ukrainians were already on the heights just outside of the city, and now they've been pushed back West to the river from where they started 1 month ago....
russia plugged the gaps with mobiks
Then the war is fucking over, because Ukraine can't advance any further.
It will only get worse now that the Russians bring more of their mobiks on the line. They're still training 200,000 of them.
the first 300,000 are all deployed or dead or crippled
no more reserves
why do you think wagner regulars and russian special forces are freed up to attack soledar
>the first 300,000 are all deployed or dead or crippled
That's not correct at all. They threw 80,000 into the gaps in the front line almost immediately and they're training the bulk of the mobilized now using professional units pulled out of Kherson.
2023 is going to be a bloodbath. I recommend you follow professional source of information instead of hysterical Plebbit propaganda.
>they're training the bulk of the mobilized
Who's doing the training, the officers shredded in the first 3 months?
Better question: WHO the fuck is going to lead them? Russia doesn't have any experienced officers left, lol.
>Who's doing the training, the officers shredded in the first 3 months?
Russia's best units were defending Kherson West of the Dnieper. They inflicted very heavy casualties during the 2-3 months since the Kherson offensive started and ground the UAF to a halt because of competent defence.
Those units were pulled out pretty much intact and are now in Russia proper rebuilding and training mobiks.
Don't you even have a BASIC idea of what happened in this war since Feb?
The russian units defending Kherson got shredded, thats why the russians fled the city with their tails between their legs
Their best units were getting their shit kicked in so they ran away
I thought they threw the guys pulled out in Kherson right back into the fighting in Donbas, lol. Putin needs his best soldiers on the front.
>the guys pulled out in Kherson right back into the fighting in Donbas
That's incorrect. I recommend you educate yourself on what units were actually in Kherson and which ones have been identified around Bahmut.
So where are they training them then?
It's funny because girkin today said some not very pro-russian words
and that's not correct at all
why do you think the ukranians are able to kill up to 600 russians newly arrived in the hotel in marrika 25km from the frontline? the russians are deploying the remaining 2/3 of their mobiks. their rapid commando training is over. I would argue that the first 80,000 has already been halved from the slaughter in bakhmut and kreminna and the second 100,000 has been severely depleted by problems, sickness and Himars in the north and centre of ukraine. All evidence leads to the last 100,000 being deployed in the south which frees up goons to storm soledar
Russians are extremely wasteful with manpower, compared to Ukraine. It's why Ukraine's numbers will only increase with time relative to Russia's.
Losing a small-ass mining town? Oh I'm sure Ukraine won't lose any sleep over it.
>Losing a small-ass mining town? Oh I'm sure Ukraine won't lose any sleep over it.
That town just lost them bakmut
Garbage b8s m8.
don't give a fuck what you think
you are either a shill or dumb. either way, life's not good for you
I think it should be legal to execute Russians. That's all.
No, it should be legal to execute poolacks. They are the ones that started this war
I meant what I said.
Then at least add poolacks into the list of executable nations.
I'm very specific in who I want to be able to execute without consequences.
Then why not poolacks? They are worse than Russians. Russians at least earn their pay, while you're funding poolack gibs
Don't like Russians. Simple as.
Poolacks are way worse than Russians. Russians aren't squating at someone's native lands
Screech all you want, but that doesn't change the fact Russians should be legally executable and a reward given for their heads.
lmao
this must be the most retarded thig I´ve read in a LONG fucking time.
read some basic r*ussian history, cunt
Russian's don't have native land all they do is squat.
PrepHole trannies in shambles
Friendly reminder Russia already lost and they're only delaying the inevitable lmao.
>trannie cock and supporting nazi globohomo
Is this satire?
its bait
How can vatniks still do this shit after almost a full year of constant humiliation?
By taking more land back???
>advances measured in the same way they were in WW1
>and for the same casualties
I wish russians were suffering WWI casualties
what do you mean "more"? are you retarded? jesus
are you okay PrepHoleopers? not having a good day?
Pretending is still being, anon. Don't be.
Well then stop pretending.
I don't think you're pretending, I think you are.
YEAH!
YEAH!
FUCK YEAH!
Hey all Fucking Ukrainian Bandits? What problem presents MotherFuckers? It looks like right now you are in the "Getting Fucked by Russia" Business and Fucking Business is Booming! You overplayed your hand Cocksuckers! We figured you Fuckers out!
i can almost smell the curry
1 Elite Wagner Troop = 5 Ukrainian Troops
>Russia takes months to capture a small town
This is just Sievierdonetzk all over again but somehow even worse
That's why I refuse to believe that this shilling is the work of genuine vatniks. It must be a false flag, no one could possibly lack self-awareness to this degree.
Severaldonuts was at least a rather large city with 100K population. This is a tiny ass village ffs.
I thought this war would be epic mechanized warfare, grand maneuvers and air assaults, extensive guerilla warfare in the Carpathians etc
Instead we got conscripts charging trenches like it's 1916 I'm so fucking disappointed
But this war is exactly what you are describing. It’s more like WW2 tempo for the most part, but it has everything.
Ukraine wins some battles but Russia seems to be winning the war.
>From "We will be in Berlin in a week" to "We finally captured Soledar after 11 months"
>First Russian victory since Severodonetsk 7 months ago
>/pol/fags and Russians acting like they just won the war
It's cute how desperate they all are.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
So how many times did Wagner "take the center of Sledar" now? I count at least four times over the last week alone.
There are multiple centers you cocksucking motehrfucker you!
You're a Fucking Libra aren't you?
How did literal convicts, push in Nato's shit so hard? Is a trap being set?
>as of January 7th
So three seperate claims of Wagner having "taken Soledar" ago. LMAO.
>penal battaltions are motorized
>kadyrov aren't
The Kadyrovites have the best Gucci boots and will commandeer any footwraps from mobiks who try to retreat
Do Wagner troops have any known weaknesses?
So what will be Ukraine's response to this? Counterattack in force and try to take the town back or withdraw to the river?
It looks like right now Ukraine is unable to respond in any meaningful way. The Wagner troops are just too good.
Kopers on suicide watch. Just like Mariupol, Severodonetz and lysichan, hohols and nato masters Will never take them back.
oh no glowiebros.
200km of 200 meters deep tunnels is not important
No. They arent. They are tombs waiting for tenants. Hence why the Ukrainians didnt use them.
Okay dude. Keep huffing that hopium.
>Random anonymous poster on a basket weaving forum is NATO
It simply blows my mind that retards unironically think something like this
I am literally NATO. All of it.
should we panic, NATO-kun?
I wouldn't worry about it.
this sounds serious. Lets properly assess the situation, shall we?
>are russians still being sent home in boxes?
> is the US still sending weapons to put russians in said boxes?
>are there still active US led sanctions that are crippling russias economy?
well it looks like everything is going just fine.
Why not just blow up the fucking mines and deny Russia its prize?
Guess we'll have to wait a day or two to see who's lying
My advice to Ukraine is the same as before: rig the mines in Bakhmut to blow up if the city falls.
Wagner shouldn't get a fucking cent.
>wait for Russians to move in and start using the mines as a depot
>Hit all the entrances with HIMARS
ez
One thing is for sure: if Bakhmut falls, Wagner's leader is sure to appear in person there. Then Ukraine can kill him.
> here's how ukraine can still win
fucking hell the seething and coping - lmao
take a break and go get some sun, gays
Ukraine already won moron
Russia is a pathetic laughing stock
>Ukraine already won moron
Ukraine has no realistic path to victory at this point
Wait a few years is their path to victory.
bakhmut is 4 times the size of soledar
so 4 more weeks
Didn't he already pose for a pic in the salt mines in Soledar? Either way, I'm not sure taking Prigozhin out is actually a good idea. It's not like that would make Wagner disappear and he presents an actual threat to Pootin. Should he smell blood in the water he might actually go for the kill (and vice-versa, R*ssia might end up throwing him and his little army into a prepared meatgrinder first to remove the threat of both entirely).
> Regardless of the allegiance
Imagine fighting for people who likely don't even want you to be there.
Yeah, that must suck for those orcs. I remember them crying about not getting food and fuel when asking for it at random Ukies' doorsteps.
FUCK HOHOLS
FUCK AMERICANS
FUCK GLOBOHOMOS
>reduced to screaming angrily into the void
Keep being insufferable Vatniks. You're sure to "discourage" us from demanding MORE support for Ukraine, just to spite you barbarians.
> republicans win hosue
> end up forcing hand of leadership - no more gibs for ukraine
lmao, i'm sure you can give them thoughts and prayers.
lend lease
The GOP doesn't want to be branded as traitors, Vatnik.
True patriots don't want to give taxpayer money to eurogays. We have zero military or economic interests in Europe. This is not our war.
>Not our war
We've said that before. Every time we let Russia get an inch, they take a mile.
It's Hitler all over again.
>very time we let Russia get an inch, they take a mile.
And how is that our problem? We are encroaching on their historical sphere or influence by forcing their minor provinces into the EU and NATO. First Poland, then the Baltics and now Finland. Soon we'll take whatever is left of Ukraine, and I'm sure the State Department wants to stage a color revolution in Belarus as well. We've tried before. How would we feel if Russia took Florida from us and placed offensive weapons similar to what we've placed in the Baltics and Poland there? There will probably be missile sites and storage sites for nukes in Finland as well, right next to Saint Petersburg, Russia's historic capital that has seen numerous acts of aggression from Finland and the Balts in its history. We are volunteering to become a participant in their regional hostilities against Russia.
>historical sphere or influence
Russian moron mentality with this "they are historically bound to the soviets" shit.
>First Poland, then the Baltics and now Finland
these people are not even the same species as Russians. fuck off posthaste
Russia clearly has no sphere of influence. There is one true power on this planet. The United States of America. Everyone will bow to our will or perish. There will be nowhere left to run.
These countries have fought to be out of Russia's sphere.
>sphere of influence
those are for winners so Russia doesn't get one
>their historical sphere or influence
This is your first retarded mistake, the rest of the post is irrelevant.
"Sphere of influence" is just code for "these people don't like us so we're going to send in the army to force them to like us"
America has no practical or moral reason to permit this.
Russia is the only country in the world that celebrates independence on Poland, you "sphere of influence" gay.
whole world is an american sphere of influence kiddo
>historical sphere or influence
Literal primitive shit. Russia is losing this war because both its society and technology are stuck in the 19th century
Russia is no better than the darkies we colonised back in the day, they were just close enough to Europe to benefit from some of its technological developments
>their historical sphere or influence
In a de jure sense, the Malta agreements were null and void once the Soviet Union dissolved. It was an effective dissolution specifically regarding maintaining their sphere of influence.
In a de facto sense, the sphere of influence was created by Stalin by purging records previous to WW2 - it's been "historical" between 1960 to 1990 (with plenty of rebellions inbetween), a 30 year period. For reference, Puerto Rico declares independence from Spain in 1899, was part of us commonwealth starting in 1950 and nobody in their right mind considers Puerto Rico "rightfully American", and if they declared independence tomorrow the invasion wouldn't make it past congress.
Russians and Russia shills once more proving that they still mentally live in the 1700s-1800s
HISTORIC SPHERE OF INFLUENCE?!
Ukraine is NOT Russia's to give or take. This is 2023, not 1860. Fucking Vatnik savages.
>Its the current year
absolute state of hohol shills
Russia is projected to fragment. Your time is coming to an end.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3206186/ukraine-war-russia-faces-revolution-and-collapse-within-10-years-experts-say
>Ukraine is NOT Russia's to give or take
To be honest it should belong to America. Its our money keeping it alive so it should belong to us. Ukraine failed to defend it self on its own, if it truly loves democracy it should have no problem becoming a state sense ours is the most superior form of it. Israel too.
Ukraine will become a close regional ally akin to another Japan. Economically strong, but also possessing a powerful military.
They would need to stop losing territory to russia first lmao
pathetic
>Ukraine will become a close regional ally akin to another Japan.
Lol you don't know shit about how Japan exploded on the market.
Ukraine just suffered its biggest defeat since the beginning of the war, lost a strategic major city and 17k dead. Russia now has freedom to roam in the East and only lost <3k dead. Russia is manufacturing 200+ new MBTs every month, including modern T-90Ms, and is replenishing its artillery ammunition inventory at an astonishing 3 million shells per month pace. It started with 17 million shells in February 2022 and is now at 22 million. There won't be a country called Ukraine after this. Maybe Russia will take Japan next!
>Major strategic city
It's a fucking mining town, lol. Wagner took it to make some cash from the mine profits. Big defeat my ass.
But thanks for giving away your big game plans for city conquest prematurely.
>thinks Russia still has manufacturing after sanctions
>feintposting
>thinks everyone is NAFO
Pure vatnik cope. No banan for monke.
Forcing? NATO and the EU have an open door policy for entering, no one forced the Warsaw Pact members to hop aboard after the fall of the Soviet Union, they leapt willingly because the EU was richer than Russia and they weren't terribly keen on the possibility of being under Russia's abusive thumb again.
>historical sphere or influence
Russian Empire ceased to exist in 1917. Soviet Union denounced any succession. Ukrainian People's Republic got invaded and conquered by Russian Bolsheviks. And Ukraine doesn't give a fuck about Putin claiming Russian Federation to be successor to Soviet Union, and all soviet republics and satellites for him to take.
Correct. The Russian Empire is fucking dead. It deserves to be dead.
>It's Hitler all over again.
You are an idiot
Oh really? Is Putin not guilty of genocide? Did appeasement make him stop invading countries?
Putin is only alive because he has nuclear weapons.
>Putin is literally HITLER!
Jesus fucking Christ you are low iq
I'd say I'm simply aware of historical parallels.
https://www.economist.com/briefing/2022/07/28/vladimir-putin-is-in-thrall-to-a-distinctive-brand-of-russian-fascism
>I'd say I'm simply aware of historical parallels.
No you are not aware of anything you fucking mouth breather.
midwit moment
Yeah i think the holocaust was over exaggerated too. WW2 is probably more like this current war in Ukraine.
>We have zero military or economic interests in Europe.
you are a literally retarded moron if you actually believe this
Europe should go back to being our biggest trading partner. China cannot be trusted.
Sorry bro shit made by white people is too expensive better export more industry to China
>t. braindead boomers
True patriots don't aid and abet the fucking enemy.
>True patriots don't aid and abet the fucking enemy.
Define the enemy. Saudi Arabia and China are good friends of ours. The whole establishment is the enemy of America and have our borders open. Who gives a fuck about a euro war when America is already occupied. Only jackals and hyenas screeching for our gibs here. Ukraine is not my problem, they should have joined NATO instead of fighting over donbass for 8 years. I do not give a fuck about their grain exports to Africa.
>Saudi Arabia and China are good friends of ours
Good might be pushing it.
Isolationism was a stupid fucking ideology in 1910 and it's even dumber now.
Isolationism is just pretending the world isn't a fucking scary place and hoping big scary countries just magically leave us alone.
>We have zero military or economic interests in Europe
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I mean, I suppose this is the narrative you have been told to spread.
>We have zero military or economic interests in Europe.
There has never been a point in American history where this was true.
You’re the dumbest poster in this thread by a mile lol
>> republicans win hosue
"On March 9, 2022, the House of Representatives passed the Ukraine Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2022 (H.R. 2471), by a vote of 361-69"
do the math
>> republicans win hosue
"On May 10, 2022, the House of Representatives passed the Additional Ukraine Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2022 (H.R. 7691), by a vote of 368 - 57"
do the math
>FUCK HOHOLS
>FUCK AMERICANS
>FUCK GLOBOHOMOS
...types a mongoloid shitstain dying of AIDS in a third world hovel.
>we didnt need it anyways!
>you took too long!
>you retreated from Kiev!
Kek, every time. U/k/rainians are seething.
get regular Russian army attack soledar
>fail
add wagner prisoners over 50,000 (check map)
>fail
add mobiks
>fail
add VDV and Russian special forces and wagner "professional" core
>take a 10,000 pop town, two salt mines and a tourist attraction
I wonder if more Russians have died taking this town than the number that used to live there.
Ukrainians are clearly subhuman, Hitler was right about them.
No other nation can lose that badly.
I used to support Ukraine but I no longer do.
Kek. But really though at least they are not speaking German
Yes, it's truly shocking Ukraine lost a small-ass mining town. How ever will they recover from the loss of the small-ass mining town?!
It’s very sad.
Like I used to root for Ukraine but after this pathetic loss where 20k Ukrainians died defending their important hub I just can’t anymore. I think I have to give up on Ukraine
Now how will the Seven Dwarves go home from work?!
I don’t know…. Ukraine is the worst nation in existence...very poor very bad military
I’m so sorry sisters I can’t do it anymore…
This is how to know it’s real. Hohol shills switched from saying there is no proof, to trying to minimize it
Russia captured the town so small, it had a fraction for a zip code.
But I thought Ukraine was winning hard???
My god… this is so demoralizing…
Well maybe Russia will zoom in the map again. We'll see them capture the Southwest ant hill.
the 46th airmobile is becoming legend.
only entered the battle last week and is fighting to the last against the entire wagner, which is ten times its size
They get to be no-knocked and shot by convicts. Nice role reversal. I hope they know how little regard their supporters online have for their mighty sacrifice worthy of the kangz of old in their golden captain crunch halls
So what happens when all these military-trained convicts return to Russian society afflicted with PTSD, lol?
maybe they can control the population of returning chechens
Even more overdoses, robberies, rapes and murders than before. Just like last time they tried this retarded shit. Anyone who didn't get the fuck out of R*ssian before will wish they had. They're not only killing off what few working age males they had left, they're traumatizing whichever ones make it back, whole or not. Those will most likely end up net drains on society, too, even if they're not actually crippled physically.
Ukraine managed to lose more people than the towns population then, how can you lose THAT badly?
Can you provide evidence to that claim?
I still don't think the russians have actually captured the town
I fully expect to be proven right in a day or two when the russians announce they are about to capture the town again, just like with bahkmut.
>spend X months capturing land
>spend X days losing same land in tactical retreats
Russians are clearly subhuman, Patton was right about them.
No other nation can lose that badly.
Thankfully I never supported r*ssia.
Seething that hard. Impotent rage.
Cope, subhuman.
one airmobile brigade and border guards are holding back and fighting to the death with a whole corps of Wagner, russian special forces and a lot of VDV (some say a few BTG worth), this ratio is extremely lopsided
46th Airmobile, border guards, the golden halls of your ancestors welcome you! True viking heritage of the Rus
I was a Ukrainian supporter like you but then I took a soledar loss to the knee…..