>Asbestos, PCB, lead. >all sorts of invisible and scentless dusts, compounds and chemicals that will give you cancer

>Asbestos, PCB, lead
>all sorts of invisible and scentless dusts, compounds and chemicals that will give you cancer

i thought rennovating we supposed to be fun and challenging, not some sort of hunger games version of wierd ass chemicals from the 50s-70s that MIGHT be present and will kill you in 30 years if you breathe them

im never buying anything built before 1990 again holy shit

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My house was built in 1935. But it's been renovated and repaired so many times that I doubt anything original is left. Which is unfortunate because these buttholes ruined the house.
    Also everything is still dangerous and will kill you.
    >attic dust
    >mold
    >fiberglass
    >drywall dust
    >previous meth user
    >previous smoker
    >radon
    Blah blah blah
    Humans weren't meant to live this way.
    Live in a steel box or a concrete cellar if you wanna be safe from everything.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot a big one: formaldehyde

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cars are full of that too

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        light a candle, use incandescent work lights, wear a mask and carry a spry bottle of diluted bleach.
        candle is an active air quality monitor it brightens take some trash to the can and let the dust settle it dims leave. wet dangers, dust will fall and bleach will burn shit.
        I am worried about total load per hour, low pressure away from egress, infrared heating of work area, increase local humidity, regular nose hair filter cleaning snot rockets.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Zoom zoom needs to consoom constant renovating instead of being happy with what they got

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >buy house made in 1989
    >start doing renovations
    >open hole in the wall
    >printed circuit boards start pouring out
    >Goddamnit, not again!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God I remember years ago I wanted to make one of those but I was too young and with no skill.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I assume they got some goofy “led lite brite” thing based on the massive amount of what look like empty sockets? This would not need that gigantic amount of discrete nonsense or the 4 ICs. You could build this on perfboard with batteries and resistors, even back in 2006 or whenever it was. Would’ve cost them much less but “artists”

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think that pic is a replica.
          also leds would be a dollar each.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think that pic is a replica.
          also leds would be a dollar each.

          Yeah, here's the original. There are 2 ICs at the bottom-left. Probably LED drivers.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just give up
    we're all going to die anyways

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This shit is so funny
      Your body literally just decides plastic is inert so it just randomly deposits it in some random tissue in your body
      It does the same thing with glass

      It's literally harmless

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >inert
        Just like asbestos

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My uncle died of Mesothelioma last year. He was miserable and died within 45 days of initial hospitalization. The only known cause of mesothelioma is asbestos. He grew up in an old house as a kid, but he lived in new construction homes throughout adulthood. He had a white collar job, albeit near a landfill. People say that landfill had to have been the cause.

    So yeah, you can never reduce your exposure to zero. I work in the trades and I'm terrified of it. The thought that a fatal exposure might have already happened keeps me up at night.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you have to be consistently exposed to it for a considerable period of time? Ie, like a carpenter in the 70's cutting up asbestos sheeting everyday?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, one exposure is enough, though it's pretty rare that an exposure will cause it. It's basically like buying a lottery ticket each time.

        Literally, not figuratively, impossible. Asbestos is not plutonium. It is not radioactive. You cannot contract mesothelioma 70 years after you lived in a house for several years. You, and he, are moronic.

        You are PrepHole's biggest moron. Never forget that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally, not figuratively, impossible. Asbestos is not plutonium. It is not radioactive. You cannot contract mesothelioma 70 years after you lived in a house for several years. You, and he, are moronic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The time from first exposure to onset of the disease, is between 25 and 70 years.[37] It is virtually never less than fifteen years and peaks at 30–40 years.[28][38] The duration of exposure to asbestos causing mesothelioma can be short. For example, cases of mesothelioma have been documented with only 1–3 months of exposure.[39][40]
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesothelioma#Asbestos

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >https://en.wikipedia.org
          Fricking zoomers I remember when you received an automatic F if you used wiki for school work.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I knew you were going to say this. Its not that you're too moronic to click the little blue numbers at the end of each sentence. Its that you're desperately hoping that we're lazy enough to not follow up. Here are the sources involved:
            >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3143206/
            >https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01913120252959227
            >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1494965/
            >https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/47/6/485/159210
            >https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article-abstract/16/1/1/214011
            I await your next tantrum of coping, seething, and dilating.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Are you seeking attention? Just provide the real sources and not a fake encyclopedia in the first place.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're 20 years too late to start seething over Wikipedia.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Universal disparagement of using Wikipedia is probably the most consistent marker of being a pseud that I have ever encountered. You're actually a dumbass

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he's never read the talk pages
                Actually, it doesn't even matter now. They've deleted most of the criticism on those pages.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          "exposure to asbestos" means the dust, like if you were sawing through it. Merely living in a house that has asbestos in the walls is not dangerous at all. If you're not dealing with clouds of asbestos dust, you're not in any danger of contracting mesothelioma.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Merely living in a house that has asbestos in the walls is not dangerous at all
            True. But that also means if you sick and tired of granny's old tiles, you're in most cases forced to dig that shit up.

            Most of the now banned building materials won't kill you if you don't mess with them.

            I can't even imagine the amount of trades people going to work every single day tearing down shit like tiles and unknowningly exposing themselves. Same with DYI'ers though. People will poke and prod at their house doing rennovations without a single fricking clue about what materials they are actually poking at.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >if you sick and tired of granny's old tiles, you're in most cases forced to dig that shit up.
              there would be literally tens of millions of cases of mesothelioma if it were caused by such short exposures to asbestos. you need to inhale it every day for months, but no single home diy'er is going to experience that much exposure unless they are complete tweekers.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              99.999% of the people you just mentioned will ever have health issues because of exposure to the chemicals you're afraid of

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Asbestos is made up of microscopic hairs that can be very difficult for your lungs to expel if they get deep inside your bronchiole. If one of the hairs gets lodged and isn't expeled, it could develop cancer in a 20-50 year period.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This
        All you have to do to expel dust/hair from your lungs is to fully exert yourself for a period of time through heavy exercise or strenuous labor

        It's the same reason smokers start coughing uncontrollably when they start running

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think other than asbestos all these things are not worth worrying too much over since the biggest problem is microplastics.
    We also kind of coddled, we have achieved some good levels of prevention and are now at a point were we can worry about things that are not that bad.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Lol without a meme arrow you're just referring to yourself, idiot.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Be careful about modern paints. A lot of them have dihydrogen monoxide.
    It's an industrial coolant used in nuclear reactors.
    Nasty stuff.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dihydrogen monoxide

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dihydrogen monoxide

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        damn H2o looking kinda sexy in those speedos

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a transite (asbestos cement) flue pipe that I’m thinking about having removed while my bathroom walls are open. Sucks because my water heater vents through it, and there’s not clearance for proper b vent. Gonna have to switch to a power vent unit with a PVC flue. Just replaced the fricking thing 3 years ago.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Update, I removed it. The two sections slid apart with force, so I didn’t have to cut it. Hope I don’t die. My great uncle worked and sometimes slept in an asbestos plant for years and lived to 90.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cool, now your house can burn down easier.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried removing a popcorn ceiling that's like 40 years old, used some scam item that is supposed to sand it off, got dust all over the room and breathed some in, how fricked am I? I tried cleaning it but I don't know what's invisible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      guess you'll find out in 20-30 years

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Sieg

    Receipts are also coated in polycarbonate film aka BPA film aka endocrine disturutor aka receipts give you cancer

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Sieg

    You know aluminum cans? You know those are really just BPA /misc/ycarbonate bags with aluminum surrounds to make it stronger for shipping

    Ice cold monster energy drink in your endocrine disrupuptor bag

    Oh and cardboard cup noodles bpa, steel cans of food lined with bpa

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You know aluminum cans? You know those are really just BPA /misc/ycarbonate bags with aluminum surrounds to make it stronger for shipping

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like you're a b***h. Keep providing sustenance female and maybe you'll find a husbando.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wood, charred wood, straw, clay and lint seed oil worked for thousands of years for house construction.
    It'd be shit for the GDP if people stopped buying crap that breaks all the time and requires trained professionals to fix.
    Without the international economic competition we might fall back to warfare. I think thats how ~~*they*~~ motivate our politicians to maintain the status quo.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather die from breathing a bit of dust than rotting at a computer

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >house buildt in 1893
    >find newspapers from that year in the wall
    >find porn mags from the 50s
    >find a mens magazine with a car review of the "brand new chevrolet impala" ('65ish?)
    >walls covered with thoose popstar stickers from the 80s, europe, a-ha, duran-duran, wham!...
    the asbestos and whatever didnt kill the guys building this house, nor the generations living in it after. stop being a pussy and just do your renovation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      buildt in 1893
      >>find newspapers from that year in the wall
      >>find porn mags from the 50s
      >>find a mens magazine with a car review of the "brand new chevrolet impala" ('65ish?)
      covered with thoose popstar stickers from the 80s, europe, a-ha, duran-duran, wham!...
      soul.
      I hate newly constructed homes so much

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        being on my 3rd refurbishment project i reluctantly disagree with you. the amount of crap these boomers did is unbelievable, but it worked.
        if only they did so by modern standards it would be so much easyer for me.
        >standard floor boards is 60x120
        >that goes against our standard 60cm girder distance
        >2 feet for you burgers?
        >noo, this old house uses 70 to 85cm distance so nothing fits....

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