>7 road wheels >sponsons
Yeah, that’s an armata chassis all right. I wonder if they’re gonna keep up the armata farce and go through with the universal platform thing despite ostensibly not being able to manufacture any of them in significant quantity. Like that one T-15 with the 57mm gun that was shown twice then never again.
If nothing else, it makes for cool video game fodder and plastic toy subjects.
I actually like how many actual products they presented at the expo. Not fiberglass mock-ups like in other expos. Their arms export company did a really good job.
It also makes about 1,000hp but there's only so much they can do in trying to milk power from the V-2 lineage after raising boost until service life starts to dip.
I'm not saying this is literally a 100 year old design down to the last screw, duh.
I'm saying this is the T-34 engine with some doodads added over time because they evidently lost the ability to design an engine from the ground up.
Westoids seethe that the V-2 got nearly every major element of the engine design right first time in the fucking 1930s (overhead cam, aluminium block and heads, direct injection and so on)
Nice feat, 75 years ago. Time doesn’t stand still. The V2 has stood still, bar having a turbo slapped on like a kid and their Honda Civic
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yeah, because if you boost s V-2 to 1000+ HP it will last more then 10 minutes... Moron
1 month ago
Anonymous
Exactly, retard
1 month ago
Anonymous
Hint... It won't. There were design changes throughout the history of the family like changes to the bearings, pistons etc.
Lazerpig fanboys can't admit Rossiya can do good for once
1 month ago
Anonymous
>bearings
Except Russia can’t produce ball bearings worth shit
>tfw supposed 2nd world power can not into metallurgy
1 month ago
Anonymous
Russia has never been able to do anything qualitative because it has always had an advantage in numbers. But those times have passed, the Russians are literally dying out and soon there will be a bunch of new states instead of Russia, but the old boomers in the USA want to save this abomination simply because they hate any changes.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Total Zigger Death
1 month ago
Anonymous
….what? Ball bearings? A rudimentary Google search shows they are a major manufacturer of ball bearings and similar products. How does a country which makes cars trucks tanks planes boats etc not make basic industrial goods like ball bearings?Where do you people GET this shit?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Tourists can only think Rossiya bad haha, despite having one of the largest MIC in the world
It's how you get hot takes like V-2 engine series is bad and had the same torque as a honda Jazz and Rossiya can't produce ball bearings
Russia isnt autarchic, but it is self sufficient in every major industry, they might not make the best stuff, but it is decent EXCEPT microchip fabrication where they are way way way behind. The best chips they can make are 65nm, while for "mass" production its more like 250nm
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Tourists can only think Rossiya bad haha, despite having one of the largest MIC in the world
I mean, we've been watching how effective that spending is for more than 18 months now.
Personally, I'm not impressed.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Tourists can only think Rossiya bad haha, despite having one of the largest MIC in the world
Is that why they have to write off so many sales of Russian equipment since they are selling to shitholes that can't pay for what they buy. Also, France surpassed Russia in weapon sales as of 2023.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Russia can make 1940's ball-bearings using machines looted from Germany after the war
they can even make some 1970s ball-bearings with machines smuggled from the West.
They can't make high-precision/fine-tolerances or cassette ball-bearings
1 month ago
Anonymous
Russia produces bearings.
50% of bearings pre 2022 were domestically produced. Now the sanctions had an effect, especially in the first 6 months of the war, but I due to various reasons (increases in local production, buying western components via third party suppliers) the sanctions are less effective now
1 month ago
Anonymous
I wonder what the Russians use for trade with Central Asia now their currency has gone down the shitter.
They're giving the norks food, gold to them and the Iranians and trading with India using their monopoly money. So are they giving gold to Central Asian countries too, or giving their leaders positions in the Tuvan Khaganate that will form in Monke's death?
There's a reason the T-90 is under powered with a shit transmission and overheats.
1 month ago
Anonymous
T-90M
48 tonness at 1130hp, 23.5hp/tonne
M1A2SEPv3/Leopard 2A7V
66.5 tonnes at 1500hp 22.6 hp/tonne
So not underpowered with respect to its peers
Shit transmission is true but rather irrelevant to the engine so stop trying to shift the goalposts. There are examples that fix the issue regarding the replacing the BKP transmission both from west and east that were never implemented en masse mainly due to money
There is no proofs that it overheats worse then its peers except Indian news articles, for the T-90S units is stationed in the mountains where there is less cooling capacity in the first place due to the lower air density. Most vehicles run hot at high altitude unsurprisingly.
Meanwhile T-64BV, designed for the European summer overheats in European summers due to the meme exhaust scavenging cooling system. Turns out having a radiator fan might be useful
>Designed at the Kharkiv Locomotive Factory by Konstantin Chelpan and his team
Twice the main engines of the Soviet Union were designed in Ukraine. Oh and they just had to do this to the ethnic Greek lead designer: >Awarded the Order of Lenin, he was politically repressed and executed under a mass persecution ordered by Joseph Stalin, but politically rehabilitated after death. >Konstantin Chelpan was arrested on 15 December 1937 during the first days of the Greek Operation of NKVD.[1][2][11] He was charged with leading a Greek nationalist counter-revolutionary organization, as well as conspiring to sabotage the Kharkiv Locomotive Factory.[1][11] After being interrogated and tortured he confessed to being a spy.[2] On 4 February 1938 he was sentenced to execution by shooting.[2][3][11]
1 month ago
Anonymous
>kill your best engine desingers >get stuck with the same engine for the next 100 years
Truly poetic.
https://i.imgur.com/OyoqEwr.jpg
Yeah, I bet there's a huge demand for tactical churches.
I'm not saying this is literally a 100 year old design down to the last screw, duh.
I'm saying this is the T-34 engine with some doodads added over time because they evidently lost the ability to design an engine from the ground up.
>watched lazerpig once >considers himself an expert now
I don't know who that is, you perma-online virgin, I simply have a working pair of eyes and have seen a T34 engine before.
By the way, for a country that decided to start a massive war which has hundreds of its citizens dying every day, that expo is absolutely fucking pathetic. This war proved without a doubt that Ukraine contributed the majority of the brain power avaliable in the USSR.
I heard differently over the years. Ie, actual Russians calling them things akin to second-class citizens, bums, etc, who’re fine as long as you take care of them. The USSR had a policy of spreading industry all over the Union but the fact is Russia retained their key arms industry — and Ukraine scrapped there’s and sold it off for pennies. That’s why Russia is mass-producing weapons and vehicles now and Ukraine is largely dependent on international aid.
Also Army Forum is one of the best arms expos; the production value is top notch and they show lots of actual gear not just fiberglass mock-ups and graphics everywhere.
No, Russia rebuilt their industry after the 90's while Ukraine was trying to survive while having largely similar export portfolio to their nearest neighbour that can make more and cheaper, 8 years of invasion didn't help either.
Yes, that’s why Russia is bringing out T-62s and T-55s, and giving mobiks Mosint rifles.
The simple fact is Russia’s industry cannot produce at scale the weapons in needs for this war. They are using their shit cold-war surplus for emergency combat capability because they’ve atrophied their production facilities.
Russia cannot even transfer Iran the Su-30 aircraft they paid for, and now Iran is making Oil and Gas deals to undercut the Russian market, while resetting relations with China, India, Saudi Arabia and the US.
moron, just looking at them should tell you how different they are. There’s similar design DNA but there’s so many differences they may as well be different engines entirely.
V2 is a constant stream of modernisations of an old engine, that doesn't mean that the engine is bad or that it is the engine from the T-34 since there is a point at which you can start saying "Ship of Theseus", BUT in my pretty opinionated opinion, the V2 is a product of Russian "good enough" approach and its modernisations did not change anything fundamental about it except the compression.
nta but given his shitpost caption likely meant to join in derailing the thread, he probably knows fuckall about military equipment anyway so i'll answer on his behalf: these quasi-technicals are being used as static guns. 99% of the time, you can get the clearest explanation for the provenance of the latest and greatest of these monstrosities via the telegram channel
https://t.me/artillery_artillery
which is some russian artillery autist's personal attempt to catalogue heavy weaponry in the conflict. weird, interesting lil channel.
New kornet model. Painted red so it does more dakka, bigger boom
https://i.imgur.com/kPVnfJ4.jpg
TZD-1488 newly upgraded
https://i.imgur.com/IkIUWIZ.jpg
What is this export model called
Fuck off moron, the whole thread is literally just some guy posting pictures he took, not rosboron or whatever the fuck the zigger export company is called, just do what normal people do in this thread and shit on the specific pictures you find funny
Haha, the oil stain beneath it makes it appear like it was hovering and that was its shadow, the vessel wouldn’t really create an unctuous reflection on the ground as it glides on a bed of silent nightmares would it?
I dunno anything about mine removal but should you actually be plowing what is essentially explosive dirt up into the air of that intake fan? Does it need to intake air in that manner?
Here’s an interesting one — an air-droppable MRAP. Don’t know what’s in the roof box…storage? Chutes? Looks like it’s supposed to be pushed out the back of a cargo plane.
Army Forum is a trade expo, everything there is for sale. They let families in so there’s maybe an element of domestic propaganda going on but it’s primarily trade show aimed at paying customers.
all of this ties together with the zavet-d fire control vapourware, which is sometimes just a digital FCS, sometimes a command vehicle adapted from a bmp chassis, sometimes from a bmd chassis, and sometimes just a typhoon.
Wait, THIS is the airborne mortar fire control vehicle. The last vehicle is the "Krok", a self-propelled 80mm mortar; can be integrated or carry the mortar as a separate system.
goddamn OP, you are a true masochist and/or a DIA employee. i came across a good milblogger for the indoor displays in particular that you might want to look at.
features the HATO chud Weapons Gallery (small arms & systems that can fit indoors & cope maps edition) as well as some clambering around inside tanks and other clips giving fairly good visuals on the stuff that official media like COMBAT APPROVED always botches:
[...] >watched lazerpig once >considers himself an expert now
it's all so tiresome
I don't know who that is, you perma-online virgin, I simply have a working pair of eyes and have seen a T34 engine before.
By the way, for a country that decided to start a massive war which has hundreds of its citizens dying every day, that expo is absolutely fucking pathetic. This war proved without a doubt that Ukraine contributed the majority of the brain power avaliable in the USSR.
tankfags are all shit on my shoe. no tankfag is worth any more than the next, or better than any other. that being said, those who argue about engines would be the first executed by any self-respecting species. we'll get there.
[...]
I actually like how many actual products they presented at the expo. Not fiberglass mock-ups like in other expos. Their arms export company did a really good job.
if you'll be in town, go for it. it's all pre-registration. you need to do it around now to ensure it's handled in time. arms expos are some of the easiest events to attend as a random, really. just don't put down a false name. i've attended in the past.
arms show tracker has been able to confirm that the BT-3F atgm carrier option is just two kornets stuck on top that you have to reload manually after firing.
>Yeah. It's an APC for 10 pax. The Kornets are an option. You can get: >A. An RWS with a machine gun >B. x2 Kornet atgms
I think such a machine is cheaper to manufacture and has the same combat effectiveness as the shturm-c, which has a more complex loading mechanism in manufacturing and maintenance
No one has bought those products outside of a few samples. What makes you believe they can’t make any more? I would assume if the RuAF or other customer bought more they’d make more. Is that not the case? It’s like saying the US can’t make ships because the Zumwalt acquisition was cancelled.
1 month ago
Anonymous
> What makes you believe they can’t make any more?
Because they can’t. Otherwise Russia would have all eleventy billion they claim to have bought.
So either Russia is lying, or they can’t be built.
Furthermore, simple logic says that you don’t set up a production line until you have orders. So if they were at all competent (which is questionable tbh) they fundamentally CANNOT build them in mass quantities.
1 month ago
Anonymous
What? I don’t recall Russia stating they bought many of these. We can only speculate why they haven’t bought any more T-14s, I just assume that they’re unhappy with them, not that they’ve bought a billion and industry just can’t deliver more than a handful. Su-57 appears to be a funding issue, not that Sukhoi couldn’t make more; Russia slashed their order to just a few and India got cold feet putting it into limbo. Besides all that how could they make a few examples but then somehow forget how to make more? Doesn’t that seem absurd just from a common sense perspective? You would never make such absurd claims about any other nation’s arms industry so why do you make them about Russia’s?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh. Nevermind then. You’re just an actual, dyed-in-the-wool retarded vatnik
1 month ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Latest tanks and planes are extremely hard to make, just look how long is the timetable for the FCAS, and they have France on the program.
Russia can not produce, domestically, the majority of the systems that are required for latest gen tanks or planes and that is a simple and immutable fact.
If they try to make Su-57s, they will find that many of the part manufacturers are now not selling to Russians, same for Armata. Changes to the procurement or design need to be made and that takes time.
1 month ago
Anonymous
? Russian vehicles use mostly domestic components. It’s true that some key components (electronics, optical systems, other specialty bits etc) are sourced internationally but it’s a ridiculous stretch to say "most". And as it turns out the sanctions are being evaded by going through 3rd-party country suppliers who don’t enforce the sanctions which has allowed them to go full tilt in production. The US is looking at the possibility of sanctioning those countries as well but so far hasn’t made that move. The EU is even weaker on sanctions. That’s just a fact.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I thought it would be clear I was talking about systems that make a tank "current generation". As I said, and you confirmed, Russia can not produce advanced systems that actually make a tank see, a plane know where it isn't and the missile what is its orientation.
Also, if France sells you one type of optics, you can expect you aren't buying the best they have.
Almost everything the Russian military has ever made.
They don't work like America that funds it's own research and production and then sells what they make. They go to people and say "this is what we could build if you buy it" if nobody buys it it never becomes real. That's why all their latest and greatest announcements have to be this big grand standing show, but then you never see one in the wild.
If you still need a real answer to your question, the checkmate is a perfect example.
>Russian military
We’re discussing the Russian arms industry not the Russian military.
1 month ago
Anonymous
That's a poor deflection. In this case they're one and the same. Russia doesn't field domestic equipment unless foreign buyers cover its production cost.
BREM T-16. Looks like an engineering / recovery vehicle. Based on the Armata chassis?
>7 road wheels
>sponsons
Yeah, that’s an armata chassis all right. I wonder if they’re gonna keep up the armata farce and go through with the universal platform thing despite ostensibly not being able to manufacture any of them in significant quantity. Like that one T-15 with the 57mm gun that was shown twice then never again.
If nothing else, it makes for cool video game fodder and plastic toy subjects.
I actually like how many actual products they presented at the expo. Not fiberglass mock-ups like in other expos. Their arms export company did a really good job.
V-92C2 engine from Uralvagonzavod.
Something must be wrong with these numbers how does a turbo diesel that big only make 1500 lbft of torque
It also makes about 1,000hp but there's only so much they can do in trying to milk power from the V-2 lineage after raising boost until service life starts to dip.
Pretty sure that's the torque figures for the V-2, V-92 makes ~4000Nm of torque
Because they took an engine designed without computers, in the 1920s and did everything they possibly could from it.
Russia is apparently incapable of designing internal combustion engines.
Maybe just maybe, English Wikipedia is wrong on this. The German language article is far more detailed
Because its not turbo diesel.
It's the same fucking engine they had for like the last 100 years, lmao.
In what way does that look like a 100-year old engine?
I'm not saying this is literally a 100 year old design down to the last screw, duh.
I'm saying this is the T-34 engine with some doodads added over time because they evidently lost the ability to design an engine from the ground up.
Westoids seethe that the V-2 got nearly every major element of the engine design right first time in the fucking 1930s (overhead cam, aluminium block and heads, direct injection and so on)
Nice feat, 75 years ago. Time doesn’t stand still. The V2 has stood still, bar having a turbo slapped on like a kid and their Honda Civic
Yeah, because if you boost s V-2 to 1000+ HP it will last more then 10 minutes... Moron
Exactly, retard
Hint... It won't. There were design changes throughout the history of the family like changes to the bearings, pistons etc.
Lazerpig fanboys can't admit Rossiya can do good for once
>bearings
Except Russia can’t produce ball bearings worth shit
>tfw supposed 2nd world power can not into metallurgy
Russia has never been able to do anything qualitative because it has always had an advantage in numbers. But those times have passed, the Russians are literally dying out and soon there will be a bunch of new states instead of Russia, but the old boomers in the USA want to save this abomination simply because they hate any changes.
Total Zigger Death
….what? Ball bearings? A rudimentary Google search shows they are a major manufacturer of ball bearings and similar products. How does a country which makes cars trucks tanks planes boats etc not make basic industrial goods like ball bearings?Where do you people GET this shit?
Tourists can only think Rossiya bad haha, despite having one of the largest MIC in the world
It's how you get hot takes like V-2 engine series is bad and had the same torque as a honda Jazz and Rossiya can't produce ball bearings
Russia isnt autarchic, but it is self sufficient in every major industry, they might not make the best stuff, but it is decent EXCEPT microchip fabrication where they are way way way behind. The best chips they can make are 65nm, while for "mass" production its more like 250nm
>Tourists can only think Rossiya bad haha, despite having one of the largest MIC in the world
I mean, we've been watching how effective that spending is for more than 18 months now.
Personally, I'm not impressed.
>Tourists can only think Rossiya bad haha, despite having one of the largest MIC in the world
Is that why they have to write off so many sales of Russian equipment since they are selling to shitholes that can't pay for what they buy. Also, France surpassed Russia in weapon sales as of 2023.
Russia can make 1940's ball-bearings using machines looted from Germany after the war
they can even make some 1970s ball-bearings with machines smuggled from the West.
They can't make high-precision/fine-tolerances or cassette ball-bearings
Russia produces bearings.
50% of bearings pre 2022 were domestically produced. Now the sanctions had an effect, especially in the first 6 months of the war, but I due to various reasons (increases in local production, buying western components via third party suppliers) the sanctions are less effective now
I wonder what the Russians use for trade with Central Asia now their currency has gone down the shitter.
They're giving the norks food, gold to them and the Iranians and trading with India using their monopoly money. So are they giving gold to Central Asian countries too, or giving their leaders positions in the Tuvan Khaganate that will form in Monke's death?
There's a reason the T-90 is under powered with a shit transmission and overheats.
T-90M
48 tonness at 1130hp, 23.5hp/tonne
M1A2SEPv3/Leopard 2A7V
66.5 tonnes at 1500hp 22.6 hp/tonne
So not underpowered with respect to its peers
Shit transmission is true but rather irrelevant to the engine so stop trying to shift the goalposts. There are examples that fix the issue regarding the replacing the BKP transmission both from west and east that were never implemented en masse mainly due to money
There is no proofs that it overheats worse then its peers except Indian news articles, for the T-90S units is stationed in the mountains where there is less cooling capacity in the first place due to the lower air density. Most vehicles run hot at high altitude unsurprisingly.
Meanwhile T-64BV, designed for the European summer overheats in European summers due to the meme exhaust scavenging cooling system. Turns out having a radiator fan might be useful
?t=357
>Designed at the Kharkiv Locomotive Factory by Konstantin Chelpan and his team
Twice the main engines of the Soviet Union were designed in Ukraine. Oh and they just had to do this to the ethnic Greek lead designer:
>Awarded the Order of Lenin, he was politically repressed and executed under a mass persecution ordered by Joseph Stalin, but politically rehabilitated after death.
>Konstantin Chelpan was arrested on 15 December 1937 during the first days of the Greek Operation of NKVD.[1][2][11] He was charged with leading a Greek nationalist counter-revolutionary organization, as well as conspiring to sabotage the Kharkiv Locomotive Factory.[1][11] After being interrogated and tortured he confessed to being a spy.[2] On 4 February 1938 he was sentenced to execution by shooting.[2][3][11]
>kill your best engine desingers
>get stuck with the same engine for the next 100 years
Truly poetic.
>mechanized heresy
yeah yeah, we saw the other thread you made with that exact same text because you're seething so hard
>if evolution is real why are there still monkeys?
? Are you suggesting humans are monkeys?
in the same way
is
>monkeys are the Russians of the animal world
>watched lazerpig once
>considers himself an expert now
it's all so tiresome
I don't know who that is, you perma-online virgin, I simply have a working pair of eyes and have seen a T34 engine before.
By the way, for a country that decided to start a massive war which has hundreds of its citizens dying every day, that expo is absolutely fucking pathetic. This war proved without a doubt that Ukraine contributed the majority of the brain power avaliable in the USSR.
I heard differently over the years. Ie, actual Russians calling them things akin to second-class citizens, bums, etc, who’re fine as long as you take care of them. The USSR had a policy of spreading industry all over the Union but the fact is Russia retained their key arms industry — and Ukraine scrapped there’s and sold it off for pennies. That’s why Russia is mass-producing weapons and vehicles now and Ukraine is largely dependent on international aid.
Also Army Forum is one of the best arms expos; the production value is top notch and they show lots of actual gear not just fiberglass mock-ups and graphics everywhere.
No, Russia rebuilt their industry after the 90's while Ukraine was trying to survive while having largely similar export portfolio to their nearest neighbour that can make more and cheaper, 8 years of invasion didn't help either.
Yes, that’s why Russia is bringing out T-62s and T-55s, and giving mobiks Mosint rifles.
The simple fact is Russia’s industry cannot produce at scale the weapons in needs for this war. They are using their shit cold-war surplus for emergency combat capability because they’ve atrophied their production facilities.
Russia cannot even transfer Iran the Su-30 aircraft they paid for, and now Iran is making Oil and Gas deals to undercut the Russian market, while resetting relations with China, India, Saudi Arabia and the US.
Sure you don't. 😉
Jesus Christ Russia.
So…it’s a hundred years old because both are V-pistons?
It's the same block. Originally based off an Italian diesel airplane engine.
if it aint broke I guess
moron, look closely. its the same engine, but with a huge fucking supercharger and a plastic cover strapped onto it.
moron, just looking at them should tell you how different they are. There’s similar design DNA but there’s so many differences they may as well be different engines entirely.
V2 is a constant stream of modernisations of an old engine, that doesn't mean that the engine is bad or that it is the engine from the T-34 since there is a point at which you can start saying "Ship of Theseus", BUT in my pretty opinionated opinion, the V2 is a product of Russian "good enough" approach and its modernisations did not change anything fundamental about it except the compression.
>brand new engine
>rusty bolts
fucking seriously?
?feature=shared&t=6
not new.
>2v-12-3a
https://files.catbox.moe/tvhug2.jpg
KShM R-177M. Interesting armored truck. All the comms gear on the roof suggests a mobile command post or brigade-level comms hub?
Eh... now I feel like I am being too sympathetic with Russia and too offensive to poor Suigintou.
Russians love Rozen Maiden though (according to stalker mods)
Probably, it was quite popular around the world, I guess most of them will catch the message.
What is this export model called
Display of a lightweight armor sandwich stopping actual gunfire.
What sort of vehicle would use this?
I presume something thin-skinned like a truck.
TZD-1488 newly upgraded
Were these things used yet?
nta but given his shitpost caption likely meant to join in derailing the thread, he probably knows fuckall about military equipment anyway so i'll answer on his behalf: these quasi-technicals are being used as static guns. 99% of the time, you can get the clearest explanation for the provenance of the latest and greatest of these monstrosities via the telegram channel
https://t.me/artillery_artillery
which is some russian artillery autist's personal attempt to catalogue heavy weaponry in the conflict. weird, interesting lil channel.
Great channel, thanks.
New kornet model. Painted red so it does more dakka, bigger boom
But this uki technology
https://lnr-news.ru/society/2023/05/11/182529.html
clearly the special rocket launcher from resident evil 4
The armor sandwich layers. They don’t look like steel…
looks like it’s steel/ceramic/steel/ceramic/kevlar or so
One of those panels looks like plywood on the backing
New "exploding cope cage" variant T-80 promises to kill own crew at even higher rates than before
Fuck off moron, the whole thread is literally just some guy posting pictures he took, not rosboron or whatever the fuck the zigger export company is called, just do what normal people do in this thread and shit on the specific pictures you find funny
satan class containment vessel for kuznetsov type entities
Haha, the oil stain beneath it makes it appear like it was hovering and that was its shadow, the vessel wouldn’t really create an unctuous reflection on the ground as it glides on a bed of silent nightmares would it?
this is a brownoid rusmoron thread. Fuck brownoid rusmoron threads.
Remote-controlled mine removal plow.
I dunno anything about mine removal but should you actually be plowing what is essentially explosive dirt up into the air of that intake fan? Does it need to intake air in that manner?
It's ok, they only built one of these and it's just going to sit in a garage until the next arms expo.
Another mine removal vehicle.
Mobile command post.
I think that this
would make a much better mobile command post. The one in pic rel looks far too cramped to host more than the driver and maybe two passengers.
Recovery vehicle.
then why were your brownoid ancestors occupied by them
Interesting logistics truck. Note the armored cab and integrated crane. Don’t know what the cab is for, maybe to carry logistics crew?
Is the crane supposed to leak all the hydraulics out?
That hard choice of "do we get a bucket?" or "oh man let's just hope people think it's a rain puddle."
It's definitely an interesting design. What would you call this? A Half-Cab?
Overland build for general officers to go on vacation
Actually I wonder if it’s a mobile workshop. That looks like a heavy-duty crane, maybe to pick up engines and the cab has tools and machinery?
Here’s an interesting one — an air-droppable MRAP. Don’t know what’s in the roof box…storage? Chutes? Looks like it’s supposed to be pushed out the back of a cargo plane.
>Don’t know what’s in the roof box…storage?
That's quite clearly a turret my guy, you can see the autocannon pointing backwards.
You’re right, definitely an autocannon.
Is there a reason why the rear wheel is canted like that?
Looks like normal suspension action to me, considering all the taught ass rigging holding the truck to the skid.
Negative camber. All vehicle manufacturers are tuning for lap times at the Nürburgring
SPTRK ATGM carrier.
How does it aim?
Cutaway view of the Kornet-D1.
Recon radar. Claims it can track artillery and moving vehicles.
Why is Ziggeria flexing tech the west had for 40 years?
>Ziggeria
lul
>Ziggeria
Why not Ziger?
Im getting flashback from those walls
Vehicle with a remote MG station and mortar. Says it has an automated mortar fire control system for use in airborne assault forces.
Do you actually believe this shit?
>anon goes to great lengths to post actual content without bias or editorializing
>dO yOu AcTuAlLy BeLiEvE tHiS sHiT???
Because Vatnikistan can only produce custom one-offs that will never see the light of day (combat).
It is ruscuck smoke and mirror vaporware to subdue ziggers into believing their MIC is not useless
>war tourist with no new insights
just be quiet, man.
>tourist
Army Forum is a trade expo, everything there is for sale. They let families in so there’s maybe an element of domestic propaganda going on but it’s primarily trade show aimed at paying customers.
>everything is for sale
Except nobody buys it
Yeah, I bet there's a huge demand for tactical churches.
for some context, the reason the mortar is out in front is because this was originally part of a VDV upgrade program to replace all mortars in one go:
>2b24 82mm mortar (crewed)
>2b25 82mm mortar (man-portable)
>2s41 82mm mortar (self-propelled) [drok]
>2s42 120mm mortar (self-propelled) [lotos]
all of this ties together with the zavet-d fire control vapourware, which is sometimes just a digital FCS, sometimes a command vehicle adapted from a bmp chassis, sometimes from a bmd chassis, and sometimes just a typhoon.
Wait, THIS is the airborne mortar fire control vehicle. The last vehicle is the "Krok", a self-propelled 80mm mortar; can be integrated or carry the mortar as a separate system.
So would this vehicle be in charge of all of the mortar carriers, or is it like one controller per two-three carriers?
Another view of the mortar carrier. The mortar looks turreted, so not a traditional tube sticking out of a hole in the roof. Must be breech-loaded.
This might have actually been useful for them to have last year.
>back for part 03
goddamn OP, you are a true masochist and/or a DIA employee. i came across a good milblogger for the indoor displays in particular that you might want to look at.
features the HATO chud Weapons Gallery (small arms & systems that can fit indoors & cope maps edition) as well as some clambering around inside tanks and other clips giving fairly good visuals on the stuff that official media like COMBAT APPROVED always botches:
https://t.me/Army_Russia/40680
Is that a Polish mine-clearing charge?
yeah
tankfags are all shit on my shoe. no tankfag is worth any more than the next, or better than any other. that being said, those who argue about engines would be the first executed by any self-respecting species. we'll get there.
Mars-2000. Mobile artillery recon. Maybe the radar also guides the gun turret for anti-drone work, but I doubt it.
I actually like the look of this one. Looks Striker-ish.
Good morning sirs
Close-up of the SPRUT-SDM1.
Holy ESL
post indoor plumbing, brownoid
yeah
Just let me look at Russian hardware in peace goddamnit
Lakhta shills woke up early I see.
Who's running them now? Volodin?
It’s an arms expo, one of the largest ones. Why do military products on display for sale enrage you so? What’s wunderwaffe about them?
>This suddenly makes an appearance.
What's NATO reaction?
are you fags gonna be this insufferable in two weeks when DSEI is underway and there's a thread up?
>DSEI
Wow it’s that time again? Looking forward to it! I wonder if they’ll let me in if I claim to be journalist…
if you'll be in town, go for it. it's all pre-registration. you need to do it around now to ensure it's handled in time. arms expos are some of the easiest events to attend as a random, really. just don't put down a false name. i've attended in the past.
previously
arms show tracker has been able to confirm that the BT-3F atgm carrier option is just two kornets stuck on top that you have to reload manually after firing.
>Yeah. It's an APC for 10 pax. The Kornets are an option. You can get:
>A. An RWS with a machine gun
>B. x2 Kornet atgms
https://archive.is/C8tqV
I think such a machine is cheaper to manufacture and has the same combat effectiveness as the shturm-c, which has a more complex loading mechanism in manufacturing and maintenance
>even WALL-E was mobilized
>name your weapons expo in English
They lost the culture war, too.
What are the odds that any of this makes it into actual production?
All of them, as they are ready for sale. They wouldn’t offer something for sale which they literally couldn’t sell.
> They wouldn’t offer something for sale which they literally couldn’t sell.
Yeah, they would
Such as?
Su-75
Su-57
T-14
No one has bought those products outside of a few samples. What makes you believe they can’t make any more? I would assume if the RuAF or other customer bought more they’d make more. Is that not the case? It’s like saying the US can’t make ships because the Zumwalt acquisition was cancelled.
> What makes you believe they can’t make any more?
Because they can’t. Otherwise Russia would have all eleventy billion they claim to have bought.
So either Russia is lying, or they can’t be built.
Furthermore, simple logic says that you don’t set up a production line until you have orders. So if they were at all competent (which is questionable tbh) they fundamentally CANNOT build them in mass quantities.
What? I don’t recall Russia stating they bought many of these. We can only speculate why they haven’t bought any more T-14s, I just assume that they’re unhappy with them, not that they’ve bought a billion and industry just can’t deliver more than a handful. Su-57 appears to be a funding issue, not that Sukhoi couldn’t make more; Russia slashed their order to just a few and India got cold feet putting it into limbo. Besides all that how could they make a few examples but then somehow forget how to make more? Doesn’t that seem absurd just from a common sense perspective? You would never make such absurd claims about any other nation’s arms industry so why do you make them about Russia’s?
Oh. Nevermind then. You’re just an actual, dyed-in-the-wool retarded vatnik
Concession accepted.
Latest tanks and planes are extremely hard to make, just look how long is the timetable for the FCAS, and they have France on the program.
Russia can not produce, domestically, the majority of the systems that are required for latest gen tanks or planes and that is a simple and immutable fact.
If they try to make Su-57s, they will find that many of the part manufacturers are now not selling to Russians, same for Armata. Changes to the procurement or design need to be made and that takes time.
? Russian vehicles use mostly domestic components. It’s true that some key components (electronics, optical systems, other specialty bits etc) are sourced internationally but it’s a ridiculous stretch to say "most". And as it turns out the sanctions are being evaded by going through 3rd-party country suppliers who don’t enforce the sanctions which has allowed them to go full tilt in production. The US is looking at the possibility of sanctioning those countries as well but so far hasn’t made that move. The EU is even weaker on sanctions. That’s just a fact.
I thought it would be clear I was talking about systems that make a tank "current generation". As I said, and you confirmed, Russia can not produce advanced systems that actually make a tank see, a plane know where it isn't and the missile what is its orientation.
Also, if France sells you one type of optics, you can expect you aren't buying the best they have.
Almost everything the Russian military has ever made.
They don't work like America that funds it's own research and production and then sells what they make. They go to people and say "this is what we could build if you buy it" if nobody buys it it never becomes real. That's why all their latest and greatest announcements have to be this big grand standing show, but then you never see one in the wild.
If you still need a real answer to your question, the checkmate is a perfect example.
>Russian military
We’re discussing the Russian arms industry not the Russian military.
That's a poor deflection. In this case they're one and the same. Russia doesn't field domestic equipment unless foreign buyers cover its production cost.
>wrmy
>Notice
>NOTICE
>PLEASE NOTICE
>PLEASE
pathetic beta male, the country