aren't these supposed to have ERA packs on them?

aren't these supposed to have ERA packs on them?

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1570370739559366657

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not fresh out of storage. I am more curious why the break out the good stuff now, and hand it over to likely barely trained mercs on top of that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Soviets have been storing a fraction of the equipment straight from factory into strategic reserves. Now that russians have lost 2k+ tanks they are running off combat ready hardware and cracking open the reserves.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's an outdated t-90, not the good stuff. it's an early to mid 90s variant with no upgrades

      it's not any better than a t-72b from the early 90s and it's worse than a t-72b2 or b3

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t-72b3 or t-72b3 obr. 2016*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How is it worse? Targeting systems? Communication systems? Worse ERA?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          practically just about everything is worse.

          the FCS is significantly worse, the armor is a bit thinner, its ERA is kontakt-5, same as the t-72b, instead of relikt, the gun has much worse barrel life, it lacks the IR dazzlers, it has a weaker engine and it has an older autoloader that's more prone to accidents

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just curious, do tanks (on either side) make use of IR dazzlers (or smoke launchers) in the Ukraine?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Other variants of T-90 do. The system is called the Shtora

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm pretty sure this is two T-72s popping smoke, but they could just be getting fucked up by a BTR

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                maybe they do, but you can see fires happen shortly after.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          T-90 was intended as the "cheap tank" in conjunction with T-80 as the "premium tank," (as an "upgrade" to the T-72, which was the cost reduced and simplified
          counterpart to the T-64).
          and so it's an "improved" (cost reduced further) version of T-72.

          Of course, because of the death of the russian economy of the 90s, it became the main tank of russia while T-80 was in the background getting some upgrades and developments, and a bunch of design evolutions that kinda just sat around until they meandered over to the T-14.

          just curious, do tanks (on either side) make use of IR dazzlers (or smoke launchers) in the Ukraine?

          Other variants of T-90 do. The system is called the Shtora

          To my knowledge Shtora isn't actually used that often with one or both of the dazzlers removed because they don't impact that many ATGM systems and in return introduce a nice big weak spot around the gun with the original mounting design.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            We only really see videos of Russian tanks where they're dying. If the IRCM works and decoys the missile the video isn't going to get posted which makes it seem like the countermeasures aren't getting deployed.

            Shtora might not fool Javelins but there are tens of thousands of anti-tank weapons in Ukraine and some of them are bound to get dazzled by the vatnik redeyes.

            Something about survivorship bias.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >some of them are bound to get dazzled by the vatnik redeyes.

              You're assuming the system works? I've read that it overheats only after a few minutes of use, and to be effective, it would have to be on at all times in the combat zone.

              Furthermore, this garbage does not detect the launch, so the crew would have to be either extremely lucky to spot the ATGM launch (never happens) or be lucky enough for their enemy to use a laser range finder on the tank because Shtora has a passive laser warning receiver, which would alert the crew they are being targeted.

              It's a nearly useless system against older ATGMs, and does nothing against stuff like Javelin, Spike, NLAW etc.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a T-90A so 2005 and and with local Buran-M thermal sight if produced in 2005-2006 or French ESSA thermal sight if produced 2007 or later

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am more curious why the break out the good stuff now,
      Now the hohols will face the TRUE army Russia's been keeping back all along

      Glove: off
      Eyebrow: raised
      Cock: sucked

      Oh yeah, It's Russin' time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you forgot
        Misha's anus:penetrated

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A hearty jej from me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Panic: absent

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Khokhlut, your main problem is that you don't understand how Russians burn down. You have heard enough of Western experts, but the problem with Western experts is that they only know Western battle tactics.
      These are two fundamentally different views. The Western recommendation chose to send the most experienced, equipped and trained fighters to the vanguard. Elite. While the rear guard consisted of inexperienced suckers with funny equipment. This is how the West fights. And the collapse of the vanguard for them means the collapse of the army. Because the elite fell, the best equipment and equipment were fucked up. Western register count on one line of defense. Strong and impenetrable, but if it crumbled, it means collapse.

      The Russian doctrine implies many lines of defense, including deceptive lines of defense. And the vanguard put the most inexperienced fighters because a fighter who passed through the vanguard and survived becomes an elite veteran who has proven in practice his superiority over everyone and therefore he alone is worth a dozen Western fighters. This is done in order to weed out the wheat from the chaff and go through hardening with fire.
      Therefore, the rearguard of our army consists of a real elite with years of combat experience and an innate talent to defend the homeland. The deceptive line of defense, on the other hand, exists to lure the enemy’s artillery to striking distances so that they move their forces and fall under a barrage of hellfire from pre-prepared positions.

      Simply put, Khokhlut, your Pendos instructors are fucking you when they say that you have a chance. Because you have not even encountered the REAL Russian army, with its most experienced fighters, who will not leave you even a wet spot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tl;dr

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please tell me more about how 1st Guards Tank Army was just trash-tier cannonfodder and not part of the "REAL" army, Vasily.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the feint was just to get rid of old equipment. with the recent regrouping, now the real battle begins.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All that old equipment like T-72B3 obj. 2016 and T-80BVMs was given away to Ukraine to burden their logistics with crappy tanks and free up Russian manpower to work on the hard hitters like T-62

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          boy are they gonna be surprised when the armatas roll out

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Please, I want to see one burning.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >implying oinkranians have anything that can pen t-90
    Its over. Maybe Luka can send enough fire wood to Europe for you gays to roast one or two piggies so you won't starve.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a pig sneezing would probably penetrate in this day and age

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *laughs in Panzerfaust*

      *also laughs in Javelin, NLAW, Stugna etc.*

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ERA didn't help this one yesterday

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What am I seeing here? The ERA bricks are all filled with leather strips/rubber and no exposive tiles at all?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          actually cardboard

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit this is just sad

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Apparently that tank was captured a while ago and since IIRC the barrel was damaged the Ukrainians most likely used the ERA for other tanks.
              There's a video on YT explaining it and it doesn't sound like vatnik propaganda - hard to know with all the desinformation.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but even if that were the case, chances are only the front chassis armor had any real ERA to begin with, which is still dismal considering top attack ATGMs are the most prominent danger to the russian tanks being fielded in this war

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What am I seeing here? The ERA bricks are all filled with leather strips/rubber and no exposive tiles at all?

            T-80BVM (same tank pic related number 659) that was captured back in Feb/March only to have a video of it appear in August about how it had no ERA in it's cassettes when it has clearly been stripped of everything including gunsights by the Ukrainians and then posted a propoganda video

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          actually cardboard

          Wait shit didn't we see Russians slapping ERA on random light vehicles during the war? It might be because the ERA was non-functional that they thought it was a good idea that did anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What am I seeing here? The ERA bricks are all filled with leather strips/rubber and no exposive tiles at all?

      wasn't it NERA?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More sacrifices for the territorial defense god

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ERA with explosives is not used in storage or peacetime, they "should" be fitted with the blocks before hitting the fronts. Shtora doesn't actually work against modern missiles so they might just not bother with it even with T-90A's if its not already mounted.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://t.me/milinfolive/90542
    some pro-russian tg said its export T-90S for india, clues are bigger corner era blocks instead of "shtora" and placement of "tucha" smoke launcher. that shit is desperate if they really grab export tanks which arent delivered yet to replace losses

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      of other nations seeing how crap russian hardware has been are ditching their contracts.
      That would be even worse for russia in the long term as it would hinder their ability to fund their ams industry

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        reminds me of 2017 tank biathlon where india was unhappy with supplied t-72 and so brought two of their imported russian t-90s both of which subsequently broke down

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even AK owners in the US can't fuel Russia's war effort for much longer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not even the pajeets are dumb enough to stay on their Russian export orders after seeing any OSINT available on them now

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where is the Armata?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have it on the pick, the guys mentions shtora wich are the "red eyes" anti atgm system

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, lmao. it's a T-90S. they have turret ERA like that but not much hull ERA

      damn indians are going to have to figure out a new place to tanks lol

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      webm

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and that's for wagner? or regular army regrouping? since it seems the Ukrainians didn't capture too many people in Kharkov, compared to equipment

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          supposedly they are bringing in russian troops from the *stans countries. bringing in these t90s isnt some power move. it just shows they are desperate for equipment. it really doesnt increase their attack power that much and hurts logistics

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          supposedly they are bringing in russian troops from the *stans countries. bringing in these t90s isnt some power move. it just shows they are desperate for equipment. it really doesnt increase their attack power that much and hurts logistics

          They are also calling Arctic Troops

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Might be T-90A really just without the Shtora projectors because they're and expensive boondoggle that doesn't actually do anything against the threats in Ukraine so they'll replace it with an extra block of ERA
    May still have the laser warning system from Shtora, like Iraq and Turkmenistan's T-90S, or not have it at all, like India and Uganda's T-90S

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Retard here, do they use special tracks during parades like this so as not to fuck up the roads?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't know about Russia but Western tanks on parade use rubber lined tracks(some also use this in combat zones because it's easier on the crew). They still trash roads though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Here in Italy we don't even do the Republic's Day parade with tanks because it will fuck up even more Rome's roads

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesnt mattter, most of these are they are going to be donated to Ukraine anyway.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    jesus, they're really getting desperate now
    who's going to drive these things though? sailors?

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek all the PrepHoleope in recent months and then it turns out that russia DOES have thousands of spare tanks and the real army has yet to even arrive in ukraine

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >> the real army underways
      yeah, of untrained gop-morons

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is there a visual flowchart of t-72/t-80/t-90 variants? i dont know how anyone but a russiaboo keeps track of this. didnt russia learn anything from ww2 germans keeping so many mods of pz4/stugs?

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This storage facility was built in Crimea post 2014. It is likely the only quality storage that exists.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the good stuff
    Mosf T-90s are unironically a worse tank than the T-72 and its variants

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry, they will add them on before they get deployed

    pic related, it's the newest technology developed for the war.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Those are Saudi T-90SA's

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think the Saudi's ever bought T-90s, though they were eyeing them up in the mid 2000s

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're right actually, those are Algerian export model T-90SA's

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Either way I don't think these are particularly old tanks since they clearly have the welded turret, so they are newer then 2005 and if they were intended for export, they likely have good French Thermals

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shit, Battlefield 2 lied to me

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do they use antique stuff? even their rifles are 3 decades old

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's what they have now.

      To be honest in the arena of tanks that's all they ever had, 30 year old designs sloppily upgraded to russia's "Modern" standards, and now they don't even have that.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what the shid that's a T-90S from India
    they look brand new too

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