its cuz they arent 5th gen 5th gen just means stealth and the cross section (the part visible to radar) is very big and basically the same size as 4th gen. All the Russians did was strap two gens on and over charge them, incase they get teleport back in time to where dog fights are still a thing.
If we followed bullshit movie rules, and the stated claims of SU57 manoeuvrability, the F14 shouldn't win.
But I don't trust Russian stats, so I bet the f14 would win.
Tom Cruise with the instruction he did for the Top Gun movies is probably a better combat pilot than the entire Russian air force. Definitely has more hours.
There's some footage of a Mig-21 taking out a Pantsir on Snake Island...before HARMS...kek. The original designer must be laughing his ass off in Heaven.
reminder that true communists extol the heavenly virtues of prudence, justice, temperance, fortitude and charity and reject the sins of gluttony, greed, sloth and wrath, and thus have a much higher chance of entering heaven than the vast majority of conservatives
Only it's western ideologues that like it because they themselves were razed in a highly christian society, the reality is communism produces the most demonic tyrants to ever walk the Earth who rule their society with nothing but fear and violence. When you have a purely materialist ideology, don't be surprised when it's leaders eventually see people as nothing but resource to be used.
King Leopold 2 wasn’t a communist
Hitler wasn’t a communist
Lyndon B. Johnson, Bill Clinton and G. W. Bush weren’t communists
I could go on but you get the idea
In USSR being a engineer designer prerequisite was having a party ticket as was pretty much every job. As soon as it fell apart most threw their party tickets to where it belonged: the toilet (hole).
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fricking destroyed worse than the vatniks on snake island lmao
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those are not MiG-21s m8, ukraine actually never even operated them. They overhauled the MiG-21s left in Ukr after soviet union break-up and sold them all.
>Aren't the Russian SU-57s supposed to be raping the Ukie Migs?
It has several airframe problems the main one being that its wings can separate from teh fuselage on certain loadings at certain speeds and elevations and angles of approach. It is not as simple as just weight either, it is what is mounted and where and what the air density and pressure is during take off and landing. There is a whole 200 page book summing conditions under which the wings come off including ones where it is well under its supposed maximum capacity. There are also unknown sets of conditions where the wings come off that are not yet known. > Indian Air Force
>the sides fell off? Is that normal? >no, exceptional circumstances. Chance in a million I'd say >well we can't have wings full of boom just falling off, someone could get hurt >not to worry, prevailing winds have already towed them outside of the environment >the air? >yes that's what I said
>There are also unknown sets of conditions where the wings come off that are not yet known
That's something you don't wanna read in the manual you get handed before a mission in the all new DNPR volonteer air wing
The Su-57 isn't even a real aircraft. Its a SU-30 with a body kit.
5G aircraft (if that's even a thing) are more than just a stealthy airframe. They are advance data links, AESA radars, battlespace management software, High capacity weapon bus, very high efficiency engines and much much more. The SU-57 has non of that because Snowgiria can't produce those things.
need trained pilots and a functional command centre to do that, if russia had thoose they could wipe the airspace of ukraine day 1. they didnt...
without thoose even a fully operational 57 is just a glorified target drone for the enemy.
Give it a week. I wouldn't be surprised if the -57s is a gigantic hanger queen with a laundry list of teething troubles that never got solved.
Even the pajeets didn't want it, there are probably some pretty glaring reasons why.
its cuz they arent 5th gen 5th gen just means stealth and the cross section (the part visible to radar) is very big and basically the same size as 4th gen. All the Russians did was strap two gens on and over charge them, incase they get teleport back in time to where dog fights are still a thing.
Being moronic on purpose ain't no way to go through life son.
stop posting
Love how in OPs pic the engines are visibly caked in rust with heat discoloration of the metal.
Sanctions made it impossible for Russia to source the required philips head screws
True, that thing is held together with roofing nails
>News flash: Russia suffering shortage of roofing nails.
But what about f-14s? It can't even beat those
Honestly, I could see Tom Cruise himself in an F-14 shooting down their fleet at this point.
If we followed bullshit movie rules, and the stated claims of SU57 manoeuvrability, the F14 shouldn't win.
But I don't trust Russian stats, so I bet the f14 would win.
Tom Cruise with the instruction he did for the Top Gun movies is probably a better combat pilot than the entire Russian air force. Definitely has more hours.
All it can do is lob shit from maximum range like the rest of their airforce is doing. Everything in the air just hides from SAMs.
>mig 21’s
Where? I need to see these beautiful girls flying
There's some footage of a Mig-21 taking out a Pantsir on Snake Island...before HARMS...kek. The original designer must be laughing his ass off in Heaven.
>heaven
The original designer was a communist
I think even he could get into heaven given that he designed the Mig-21
reminder that true communists extol the heavenly virtues of prudence, justice, temperance, fortitude and charity and reject the sins of gluttony, greed, sloth and wrath, and thus have a much higher chance of entering heaven than the vast majority of conservatives
bump
We already know that you're a braindead homosexual, reddit. No need to remind us.
If a braindead homosexual can figure that out and you can’t, then you need a neurological evaluation
>charity
Charity is voluntary, stealing from the productive at gunpoint so you can 'redistribute' their wealth is not charity.
>capitalism is not charity
Glad we agree
Marx was the ideal communist and he was a mooch who never worked a day of his life.
Only it's western ideologues that like it because they themselves were razed in a highly christian society, the reality is communism produces the most demonic tyrants to ever walk the Earth who rule their society with nothing but fear and violence. When you have a purely materialist ideology, don't be surprised when it's leaders eventually see people as nothing but resource to be used.
King Leopold 2 wasn’t a communist
Hitler wasn’t a communist
Lyndon B. Johnson, Bill Clinton and G. W. Bush weren’t communists
I could go on but you get the idea
In USSR being a engineer designer prerequisite was having a party ticket as was pretty much every job. As soon as it fell apart most threw their party tickets to where it belonged: the toilet (hole).
There's no such footage.
those are not MiG-21s m8, ukraine actually never even operated them. They overhauled the MiG-21s left in Ukr after soviet union break-up and sold them all.
that bombing run was done with flankers
fricking destroyed worse than the vatniks on snake island lmao
why are you literally making shit up?
This thing is gonna look like a civilian airliner on radar, isn't it? All the easier for Russia to shoot their own aircraft down.
Bro Ukies don't operate the Mig-21, I think you mean 29. The Ukie airforce is their bit of the Soviet airforce who'd retired it by then.
I don't think they have SU-57 that is not prototype or demonstrator. The real question is where is SU-35?
Ukies shot down a few
https://i.postimg.cc/9Xx2XhXx/32f.png
They sold all of the SU-57's avionics.
Because there's like 3 of them
Su-57 flies well but without electronics and radar, it's not fighting anyone...
But the reformers told me all of that was just useless waste?!?
Anon, that plane exists only in Ace Combat.
>Aren't the Russian SU-57s supposed to be raping the Ukie Migs?
It has several airframe problems the main one being that its wings can separate from teh fuselage on certain loadings at certain speeds and elevations and angles of approach. It is not as simple as just weight either, it is what is mounted and where and what the air density and pressure is during take off and landing. There is a whole 200 page book summing conditions under which the wings come off including ones where it is well under its supposed maximum capacity. There are also unknown sets of conditions where the wings come off that are not yet known.
> Indian Air Force
>the sides fell off? Is that normal?
>no, exceptional circumstances. Chance in a million I'd say
>well we can't have wings full of boom just falling off, someone could get hurt
>not to worry, prevailing winds have already towed them outside of the environment
>the air?
>yes that's what I said
>If the force of air resistance is very big then it can destroy the aircraft
Congratulations on discovering the laws of physics
>the wings fall off randomly
>There are also unknown sets of conditions where the wings come off that are not yet known
That's something you don't wanna read in the manual you get handed before a mission in the all new DNPR volonteer air wing
>There are also unknown sets of conditions where the wings come off
The wings fell off?
a good pilot can fly a jet on only one wing and even land it
only.... russia dont have good pilots
Only very good planes can even do that.
>MiG-21
It’s MiG-29 my man. Ukies don’t use equipment that ancient. Though Romania did offer them their MiG-21 fleet but they declined.
The Su-57 isn't even a real aircraft. Its a SU-30 with a body kit.
5G aircraft (if that's even a thing) are more than just a stealthy airframe. They are advance data links, AESA radars, battlespace management software, High capacity weapon bus, very high efficiency engines and much much more. The SU-57 has non of that because Snowgiria can't produce those things.
>Russia
>very high efficiency engines
You didn't hear it from me, but the Su-57 doesn't actually exist
>Aren't the Russian SU-57s supposed to be raping the Ukie Migs?
SU-35 does this tho
I'm sure it would wipe the floor with any HATO plane even 10 years to the future, in War Thunder with their "sources".
need trained pilots and a functional command centre to do that, if russia had thoose they could wipe the airspace of ukraine day 1. they didnt...
without thoose even a fully operational 57 is just a glorified target drone for the enemy.