Wagner isn't really a PMC, anon. That's just a veil they use to disguise what they really are: Putin's private army. Picrel is an example of a real PMC.
>Putin's private army
it's prigozhin's private army actually. And he's gonna contend to become czar after pootpoot is finished. It's gonna be several private armies competing in the next russian civil war, Kadyrov, Kiril, Prigozhin, maybe some more
1 year ago
Anonymous
>And he's gonna contend to become czar after pootpoot is finished.
If the siloviki don't kill him the yanks will. If Russia actually goes into 'crisis' mode again like when the USSR collapsed, I expect they and others will be pushing lots of candidates they don't like out of windows.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>it's prigozhin's private army
And Prigozhin is Putin's lapdog.
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Wagner isn't in fact private army, anons. They train on military facilities and use army-issued gear.
Wagner in fact one of many parallel armies that function at the same time. Putin borrowed that model from Arab dictatorships (though you can argue that it existed in some form during USSR) after 2014 when he got scared shitless of an Euromaidan in Moscow. Aside from "the" army and Wagner you have the Rosgvardia and of course Kadyrov's Chechens.
The idea is that with so many separate armies existing at the same time, the risk that all of them will suddenly support a coup is negligible. At the same time these armies are pitted against each other. They spy on each other and compete for all types of resources. But that again by design. These armies are meant to be antagonistic to each other. This way they can't conspire together against the top guy.
>Putin's private army
it's prigozhin's private army actually. And he's gonna contend to become czar after pootpoot is finished. It's gonna be several private armies competing in the next russian civil war, Kadyrov, Kiril, Prigozhin, maybe some more
Wagner isn't in fact private army, anons. They train on military facilities and use army-issued gear.
Wagner in fact one of many parallel armies that function at the same time. Putin borrowed that model from Arab dictatorships (though you can argue that it existed in some form during USSR) after 2014 when he got scared shitless of an Euromaidan in Moscow. Aside from "the" army and Wagner you have the Rosgvardia and of course Kadyrov's Chechens.
The idea is that with so many separate armies existing at the same time, the risk that all of them will suddenly support a coup is negligible. At the same time these armies are pitted against each other. They spy on each other and compete for all types of resources. But that again by design. These armies are meant to be antagonistic to each other. This way they can't conspire together against the top guy.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Finally someone who gets it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sounds like the Heer vs the SA vs the Waffen SS
but a bit different
1 year ago
Anonymous
So Russia, valiantly fighting against the Nazis, has its own SS?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>The idea is that with so many separate armies existing at the same time, the risk that all of them will suddenly support a coup is negligible. At the same time these armies are pitted against each other. They spy on each other and compete for all types of resources. But that again by design. These armies are meant to be antagonistic to each other. This way they can't conspire together against the top guy.
This setup also works great if you end up in an actual wa-OH NO!
1 year ago
Anonymous
The news from the last couple of months indicates that some other factions are also building their private armies inside Russia. We'll see if they are successful.
This also means that the next dictator in Russia is going to be the guy with the best or the biggest private army. And that was obvious by March 2022.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's always the same problem. A dictator is good at keeping his own people in check, but the whole house of cards falls apart when an actual war starts.
Having 5 different (para)militaries will keep the president safe, but not the country.
It's so obvious, yet dictators still start wars they disastrously lose.
1 year ago
Anonymous
A good model for maintaining power in relative peace usually works bad for wartime when efficiency is the paramount.
The logical way for Putin would be to merge all those militaries under one, most efficient leadership and later to immidiately purge that leadership after the end of the war. However, this still puts him at risk, especially if the guys in charge of the army are smart enough to see the writing on the wall. I doubt therefore he will risk his chances, considering how paranoid he's now.
1 year ago
Anonymous
And don't forget the FSB, which hates the army.
1 year ago
Anonymous
There is a rumor the Putin fears he may face the same end as Gadhaffi.
To prevent this, he wanted full support of his people, thus why he funded several military powers in his country, thus why he started the war, under the assumption that an easy victory would maintain his popularity.
Ironically enough, this will propbably lead to his downfall.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's not rumor. Too many serious people independently said that.
The whole Putin's turn towards imperialism and expansionism happened because Putin's previous source of legitimacy was depleted. Before 2014 Putin posed as the guy who brought back order, fixed economy and gave Russians hopes for the future. However, by 2013 it was obvious that Russia is unable to transition into a developed economy and only oil revenues are keeping it somewhat afloat. This is why Euromaidan terrified Putin so much.
1 year ago
Anonymous
We'd be already bombarding Putin's palace and he'd face the same fate if nuclear weapons didn't exist.
Too bad, too bad...
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's no rumor. Putin has spoken many times about how viewing the video of Gadhafi's death disturbed him. I think it may have actually given him PTSD.
1 year ago
Anonymous
This is the same model that Trump tried to follow by his criminal level of disrespect for his own intelligence services, appointing freaks and vatnik as (Flynn) as a way to harass and disunity military and executive organizations. Starting the “space force” with the initial idea of it being his own satellite version of the PLA Rocket Force, attempting to strong arm US Allies into handing over greenland, supporting various extralegal militia concepts, and so on. You can see trumps supporters using vatnik hybrid warfare techniques by busing migrants to Kamala Harris and Martha’s Vineyard just like Luka using migrants as a weapon against our ally Poland
Whoa... yikes... a lot of blackface in your image, anon........
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's camo face paint.
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/WwQ8JzL.jpg
It's camo face paint.
Probably a lot of them are Rhodies, it is actually kind of both. It was or is tactical black face. Sometimes you don’t want to be targeted for your skin color or you just don’t want folks seeing any whyte bois cross the border
Ukrainian SOF and a great many people in frontline units have all been using MultiCam (whether in conjunction with or as an alternative to MM-14) since Day 1, you blind moron.
>Cuts off before Kharkiv was retaken
It's a shame, that's when the focus on Bakhmut really kicked into overdrive, just to give the ruskie public something, anything, to believe the war is still proceeding according to plan.
How many times are the vatBlack folk gonna capture and recapture Bakhmut?? It's been 8 months. Are you saying they're purposely leaving so they can capture it again?
Making up vatBlack person excuses and lies does not debunk the fact that you didn't take Soledar, Vanya.
How many times are the vatBlack folk gonna capture and recapture Bakhmut?? It's been 8 months. Are you saying they're purposely leaving so they can capture it again?
They never captured it even once. They're still trying to headbutt through the outskirts and suburbs, taking a few miles a wee for hundreds of casualties before losing it all in a day again.
Anon please.. how many time did we need to debunk it before you stop coping?
None of you are right. Soledar is still contested. Half of the town vatniks the other half hohols. Both sides confirmed this multiple times.
Just wait a few days and we will see who wins.
>Ukrainians post pictures of them in front of the mine complex >Vatniks "debunk" this by geolocating the mine office buildings that looks nothing like what is in he frame
Russia is getting a 10-1 ratio in kills and you're just laughing!
2 more weeks Bahkmut falls piggies, the hoards of mobiks will crash upon you and you will die via attrition, and Russian women will just print more babies.
Russia is essentially in permanent mobilization now. While the Ukrainians literally skipped their bi-annual draft because they have more volunteers than they know what to do with.
They abandoned their armored vehicles and most of their weapons in the wave just before this one. They decided to zerg rush it after the Ukrainians captured their armor and weapons and turned it against the cause why the frick not.
These numbers are surreal
It'd be awesome if Russia could lose so that ammo contracts are being dumped into UKR and we could buy some cheap brass again
It's par for the course in any conflict during the information age. There were numerous inflated reports of US casualties during the early years of OIF too. We won't have any chance of knowing until it's over.
Yeah, it is curious how it becomes easier to gather data on a war after it ends and you get access to reliable population data and archived records from both sides of the conflict
Wait no, not curious that was the wrong word
I meant "fricking obvious"
The real difference is Germans keep a tight documentation.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sometimes I wonder if the reason the holocaust stands out amongst its many contemporaries in the field is simply because of how meticulously the germans documented the whole process, with all that data allowing it to penetrate more deeply into the public consciousness than something like the Hodomor or the Armenian genocide
1 year ago
Anonymous
I thought it more because of the glorification of WW 2, and the holodomor was covered up like what the soviets did to Poland.
It's not, if you actually read up on it there are various estimates. It's just as history goes by it's just gets simpler as it gets taught by moronic teachers dumbing it down for kids (morons)
Anon we have detailed Paris census data going back to the 1300s where they listed exact names, family, and occupations by district and its proven invaluable to historians. The simple fact is that if a gov bothers to WRITE SHIT DOWN it often gets very meticulously recorded
Its just not a good idea when the enemy has an abundance of man portable anti-tank weapons. In such a situation, it's more dangerous to use armoured vehicles in an assault as you're then losing entire squads of men to a few shots before they can even get near the objective.
In an IFV you concentrate the entire group to a single target, having troops on foot means the enemy can't shoot everyone with the same bullet. Didn't save these guys, but that's the idea anyway
They dismount before closing in with the enemy. Once you are close, infantry anti-tank weapons become a threat and the IFVs and APCs are better off providing fire support from out of range of them while the infantry advances.
Old vid, these guys were most likely rotated in December.
It's just Russian propaganda, of the kind we've been seeing since 2014.
Zerg Rush hasn't been a valid tactic in the battlefield since the 1950s, and even during the 1950s China basically lost all its veteran forces doing it for paltry enemy losses inflicted. Anyone advocating for human wave attacks in this day and age should be summarily executed for attempting to undermine the military's efficiency
>@ArthurM40330824
It's the laziness of botfarm names that annoys me. It's always a random English sounding name followed by 8 digits.
Like everything else Russia does, it was phoned in by people who don't give a shit.
I find it so funny that vatniks call Ukies piggies because they eat pork while Russians don't even have access to fresh meat of any kind. They eat meat out of a can or some kind of shelf stable sausage. A shitload of Russians don't even have refrigeration. What a thirdie country.
>comrades, we are being defeated by HATO polish mercenaries. to fight we must adopt HATO tactics >Da, comrade. I study the tactics of great HATO Anglo-saxi general Haig
Zerg Rush hasn't been a valid tactic in the battlefield since the 1950s, and even during the 1950s China basically lost all its veteran forces doing it for paltry enemy losses inflicted. Anyone advocating for human wave attacks in this day and age should be summarily executed for attempting to undermine the military's efficiency
The goal is to make the defenders kill so many mobiks that they can't live with themselves anymore and either kill themselves or go home. Do you not understand the Russian Psychological warfare plans?
The two biggest successes Russia has had in this embarrassment of a war are
Making the defending force feel bad for killing so many people in so short of a time because the Ukrainians actually have something called empathy in them
and
Delaying Advance Wars Reboot Camp.
>The goal is to make the defenders kill so many mobiks that they can't live with themselves anymore and either kill themselves or go home. Do you not understand the Russian Psychological warfare plans? Piggies are gonna have some nasty PTSD.
No, PTSD is happening at both sides of the conflict. I remember reading about former NVA soldier having PTSD episodes from American bombings and battles.
When they do this sort of thing is it just so they can try to locate Ukrainian positions to hit with artillery? They don't actually expect these attacks to succeed to they?
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if wagner was sending waves of their troops to die while never recording them as casualties so they can keep pocketing their paychecks.
Probably a bit of that and a bit of "well the higher ups said we must attack so send out a wave of meat". It's pretty telling if Russia needs to sacrifice bodies to find artillery to counter shell.
[...]
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The hilarity about the quotes. Which are totally made up, are cited from the following books: >The Black Man: His Antecedents, His Genius, and His Achievements >The White Image in the Black Mind: African American Ideas About White People, 1830-1925 (which cited the first book)
I wonder if there are people dumb enough to think those are real quotes.
They are.
Source: I was there, I saw it.
The hilarity about the quotes. Which are totally made up, are cited from the following books: >The Black Man: His Antecedents, His Genius, and His Achievements >The White Image in the Black Mind: African American Ideas About White People, 1830-1925 (which cited the first book)
the first 80,000 are mainly destroyed as a fighting force
50,000 deserted, bribed, found to be insane, died, sick
About 100,000 mobiks fighting in Ukraine and the last 100,000+ now committed on assaulting Soledar and Bakhmut, I think professional troops should be around 50,000+, and PMCs/Kadyrovs not more than 30,000
If it wasn't for the sheer amount of drone footage and photos I'd honesty refuse to believe half the shit that happens in this war. On the bright side atleast this put an end to that attempt at revisionism where the russians weren't moronicly throwing away men during ww2.
>trading lives for time to get their factories packed onto trains and moved east.
Except they kept doing it in the latter half of the war when they were on the offensive.
Not even "zerg tactics", just US/UN troops butthurt about getting outmaneuvered and forced to run whenever they couldn't turn the fight into a static meatgrinder. The Chinks were the ones who were actually outnumbered during the times they managed to gain the most ground.
>soledar >its population is 10,490
lmao
Also the ukies posted a video from the center of town. After the Russians had claimed to have taken it. LMAO.
>rapefugee
They're called Syrians and there you're new best friends on the world stage. Syrians and Afghans have even started leaving Germany for just as a million Ukrainians have entered, with most Arabs going to Russia. That's one country who got whiter due to the war while Russia got browner. Enjoy your ~~*multipolar world*~~ vatnik.
>Syrians and Afghans have even started leaving Germany for just as a million Ukrainians have entered, with most Arabs going to Russia.
Hilarious if true, source?
That's a bit ironic coming from a vatnik, considering the RF is less than 50% Russian at this point.
You obviously are not Russian or even familiar with Russians either, because they've been seething about this particular topic for the past 7 days (most of the "newbords of New Year" are non-russian).
First of all, it's a war crime. Adding it to my folder of ukro war crimes for enevitable tribunal.
Second, those are obviously ukies. Trust me, I know.
You're just coping because the new offensive on Kiev were planning will crush the israeli nazzis. Two weeks, you'll see. This time for sure.
SC2 isn't sprites, and most of the people who made SCBW work had either moved on or gotten old and lazy. In some cases the redesigns were deliberate - they wanted the Terrans to look more advanced, ruining their previous excellent visual language for no gain. Everywhere too you see the poisonous influence of World of Warcraft.
Right now every action by both sides is a trench by trench bloodbath. Russia is holding back because of world opinion and the West is holding back Ukraine's support for the same reason. So whichever side you support, keep celebrating, you insufferable morons.
>Russia is holding back because of world opinion
lol i'm sure they are, they just forget about it sometimes and terrorbomb cities by accident
NATO and Russia should have stayed out and let Ukraine deal with its own civil war. This escalation and any future spread of conflict is the result of our own collective stupidity.
civ·il war
/ˌsivil ˈwôr/
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noun
a war between citizens of the same country.
"they signed a peace accord ending the country's 12-year civil war"
1 year ago
Anonymous
So like Franch Civil War of 1939 where Adolf Hitler led pro-German rebels against French government?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Exactly. A foreign force intervenes in an internal conflict exacerbated by the opposing foreign influences.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Please bite the bait. Come on... I had shades of white and snail species retorts ready to go...
>NATO and Russia should have stayed out and let Ukraine deal with its own civil war.
There was no civil war. Russia invaded Ukrainian territory in 2014. Girkin himself says there was no real seperatists in Donbass till he arrived with a group of FSB.
15 is a squad. Well, plus two. I'm not sure what the Russian obsession is with this village right now is, and I'm skeptical about the crowing because they've said they took Bakhmut for like 6 months running now.
Claims are that one of the big wig wants to control Soledar because of its mines. So they can pad their wallet 'after the war'. If they can hold it now they can at least get people selling it.
That's Putin's mistake: he keeps 6-pooling, but never builds an evolution chamber or a hydralisk den. Not even a spire. Nothing has been upgraded, blyat!
No NCO Corps == He hasn't spawned amy overlords.
Only question is how long until all mineral fields
and vespene geysers are depleted.
Meanwhile, the Yooks have level 2 everything (except a starport to make wraiths) and have "turtled up" since 2014.
>feb 2022 invasion - march 2022 >overlord drop into main with all defilers and lurkers, they rain into turrets and the ones that did get dropped near starport were scanned and fricked up with siege tanks >armies of ling/hydra/ultra a-moved up ramps defended by vultures/bunker/tanks >mutalisks a-moved in ones and twos into turrets >eco-line gets nuked by sanctions
>april 2022 - september 2022 >infested command centers of LDPR just send out infested terrans against ramps of mines/bunker/tank, all it needs is one or two infested to blow up a bunker and there will be breakthrough >ukraine goes full macro turtle, scales back unit production for eco and engy bay/armory upgrades/tech up >psi emitter captures ultras = capturing abandoned vehicles >drones getting sniped wraiths >brings up guardians to arty the shit out of bunkers and bio >ukraine gets goliaths and hellfire missiles to counter guardians >gets vision by protoss observers that have shared vision and allied victory
>october 2022 - present >russia has single digit drone count >keeps up units on the front line with a bunch of queens using spawn broodling ability and occasional ling offensive into ramps defended by mines/bunkers/tanks
Important questions,
How well would napalm work versus the current trench/urban warfare?
And can you put JDAM or Glidebomb kits on the Mark 77s?
Would a Napalm GSLAB be workable for HIMARS?
>Uhh, they do realize Germans got BTFO by Russians, right?
20 million dead russians,had to rely their economy on pow slave labor and looted resources the next 5 years
They lost in WW1 due to the October revolution and if you think that Germans had any chance of winning against the Soviets in WW2, with or without America, you are truly delusional.
Sorry tankie, but your fake production numbers have been debunked and in reality Soviet production would have never kept up against the kraut horde if it wasn't for the Amerikkkangs
>They lost in WW1
You should've just stopped there >if you think that Germans had any chance of winning against the Soviets in WW2 >with or without America, you are truly delusional.
Lol
Lmao even.
Soviet leaders are literally on record that Americans carried them and you're calling me delusional?
my ukranian war bride is on the way, She's at munich airport now. Pretty soon I'm going to be able to post pictures of fricking her with a giant slava Z etched on her backside while pulling up details on how her boyfriend died in ukraine. It'll be glorious
looks like your average western milgay exaggerating the hell out of the situation with the unique mixture of hype and sensationalism that is classic pol
Stupid puppet aside the bit "This isn't as bad as Chechnya. => It's worse" is 100% correct.
The only reason the occident sighted at Putin's sovietic nostalgia and looked away before was because Russia remained a decent commercial partner compared to Arab dictatorship. But now he tried to weaponize economy against most of the world, made Russia into literal Nazi and we invented a word for the level of frickup his army displayed.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blyatzkrieg
NAFO ruined this fricking board. They are 100% getting the shock and awe treatment of the evil putingay fricking their pure ukie waifu spammed until they rope themselves like most trannies
First two are nice. The last two are ok at a distance, but the edit's style clashes with the original style when you look at it closely. The colors/shapes are two solid. Try to use the same skin texture.
such is life as mobik
>mobik
That's Wagner, so they're guys who decided they would rather play Russian roulette than sit in prison for decades
Only 10% of Wagner troops are penal batallions anon. Most of those guys are just poor Russians who wanted an European salary for a few months
Still not mobiks. Wagner is PMC and they don't draft people from gen pop
Yep. But still "regular" people being slaughtered like pigs for 2500€. It's really fricked up.
sometimes i wonder if the rice farmer proxies used to celebrate ameri-mobik deaths too
They pretty much had to, the Americans were raping them hard for every kill they managed. Not really comparable at all to what the Russians are doing
Wagner isn't really a PMC, anon. That's just a veil they use to disguise what they really are: Putin's private army. Picrel is an example of a real PMC.
>Putin's private army
it's prigozhin's private army actually. And he's gonna contend to become czar after pootpoot is finished. It's gonna be several private armies competing in the next russian civil war, Kadyrov, Kiril, Prigozhin, maybe some more
>And he's gonna contend to become czar after pootpoot is finished.
If the siloviki don't kill him the yanks will. If Russia actually goes into 'crisis' mode again like when the USSR collapsed, I expect they and others will be pushing lots of candidates they don't like out of windows.
>it's prigozhin's private army
And Prigozhin is Putin's lapdog.
This
Wagner isn't in fact private army, anons. They train on military facilities and use army-issued gear.
Wagner in fact one of many parallel armies that function at the same time. Putin borrowed that model from Arab dictatorships (though you can argue that it existed in some form during USSR) after 2014 when he got scared shitless of an Euromaidan in Moscow. Aside from "the" army and Wagner you have the Rosgvardia and of course Kadyrov's Chechens.
The idea is that with so many separate armies existing at the same time, the risk that all of them will suddenly support a coup is negligible. At the same time these armies are pitted against each other. They spy on each other and compete for all types of resources. But that again by design. These armies are meant to be antagonistic to each other. This way they can't conspire together against the top guy.
Finally someone who gets it.
Sounds like the Heer vs the SA vs the Waffen SS
but a bit different
So Russia, valiantly fighting against the Nazis, has its own SS?
>The idea is that with so many separate armies existing at the same time, the risk that all of them will suddenly support a coup is negligible. At the same time these armies are pitted against each other. They spy on each other and compete for all types of resources. But that again by design. These armies are meant to be antagonistic to each other. This way they can't conspire together against the top guy.
This setup also works great if you end up in an actual wa-OH NO!
The news from the last couple of months indicates that some other factions are also building their private armies inside Russia. We'll see if they are successful.
This also means that the next dictator in Russia is going to be the guy with the best or the biggest private army. And that was obvious by March 2022.
It's always the same problem. A dictator is good at keeping his own people in check, but the whole house of cards falls apart when an actual war starts.
Having 5 different (para)militaries will keep the president safe, but not the country.
It's so obvious, yet dictators still start wars they disastrously lose.
A good model for maintaining power in relative peace usually works bad for wartime when efficiency is the paramount.
The logical way for Putin would be to merge all those militaries under one, most efficient leadership and later to immidiately purge that leadership after the end of the war. However, this still puts him at risk, especially if the guys in charge of the army are smart enough to see the writing on the wall. I doubt therefore he will risk his chances, considering how paranoid he's now.
And don't forget the FSB, which hates the army.
There is a rumor the Putin fears he may face the same end as Gadhaffi.
To prevent this, he wanted full support of his people, thus why he funded several military powers in his country, thus why he started the war, under the assumption that an easy victory would maintain his popularity.
Ironically enough, this will propbably lead to his downfall.
It's not rumor. Too many serious people independently said that.
The whole Putin's turn towards imperialism and expansionism happened because Putin's previous source of legitimacy was depleted. Before 2014 Putin posed as the guy who brought back order, fixed economy and gave Russians hopes for the future. However, by 2013 it was obvious that Russia is unable to transition into a developed economy and only oil revenues are keeping it somewhat afloat. This is why Euromaidan terrified Putin so much.
We'd be already bombarding Putin's palace and he'd face the same fate if nuclear weapons didn't exist.
Too bad, too bad...
It's no rumor. Putin has spoken many times about how viewing the video of Gadhafi's death disturbed him. I think it may have actually given him PTSD.
This is the same model that Trump tried to follow by his criminal level of disrespect for his own intelligence services, appointing freaks and vatnik as (Flynn) as a way to harass and disunity military and executive organizations. Starting the “space force” with the initial idea of it being his own satellite version of the PLA Rocket Force, attempting to strong arm US Allies into handing over greenland, supporting various extralegal militia concepts, and so on. You can see trumps supporters using vatnik hybrid warfare techniques by busing migrants to Kamala Harris and Martha’s Vineyard just like Luka using migrants as a weapon against our ally Poland
Whoa... yikes... a lot of blackface in your image, anon........
It's camo face paint.
Probably a lot of them are Rhodies, it is actually kind of both. It was or is tactical black face. Sometimes you don’t want to be targeted for your skin color or you just don’t want folks seeing any whyte bois cross the border
Mobiks will die until the situation improves.
>life
Is Blackadder Goes Forth part of the curriculum at the Russian Army Acadamy? Do they know its a comedy w/alot of satire?
i can't even fricking tell who is who anymore, gayner must get the shit sunbleached uniforms
Yeah it looks a lot like the Ukrainian multicam but turns up lighter on camera
>MM-14
>multicam
Ukrainian SOF and a great many people in frontline units have all been using MultiCam (whether in conjunction with or as an alternative to MM-14) since Day 1, you blind moron.
oh shit you're right sorry bro, they do use some multicam though
Well... they take soledar so i think it's working.
No, they didn't do that
Anon please.. how many time did we need to debunk it before you stop coping?
How many times indeed?
>the last post
LUIGI NO
>Cuts off before Kharkiv was retaken
It's a shame, that's when the focus on Bakhmut really kicked into overdrive, just to give the ruskie public something, anything, to believe the war is still proceeding according to plan.
Please understand, it's all he has. 🙁
How many times are the vatBlack folk gonna capture and recapture Bakhmut?? It's been 8 months. Are you saying they're purposely leaving so they can capture it again?
Making up vatBlack person excuses and lies does not debunk the fact that you didn't take Soledar, Vanya.
They never captured it even once. They're still trying to headbutt through the outskirts and suburbs, taking a few miles a wee for hundreds of casualties before losing it all in a day again.
None of you are right. Soledar is still contested. Half of the town vatniks the other half hohols. Both sides confirmed this multiple times.
Just wait a few days and we will see who wins.
Soon to be dead, if he isn't already
>Ukrainians post pictures of them in front of the mine complex
>Vatniks "debunk" this by geolocating the mine office buildings that looks nothing like what is in he frame
>soledar
>its population is 10,490
lmao
Now that's just cope. Tell me what ukarine has taken during winter Hmm...
A good chunk of the Kinburn Spit and a small island near Kherson.
Russia is getting a 10-1 ratio in kills and you're just laughing!
2 more weeks Bahkmut falls piggies, the hoards of mobiks will crash upon you and you will die via attrition, and Russian women will just print more babies.
C+ for effort
Thank you
It was meant to be sarcastic anyway
i bet you think you sound edgy saying this and totally not like a moron
It was satire so neither.
I did it guys. After reading 3 words of this post I stopped reading and scrolled on. You can also do it.
only when ukrainians do them
15th mobilization wave coming up
LMAO, the projection.
Russia is essentially in permanent mobilization now. While the Ukrainians literally skipped their bi-annual draft because they have more volunteers than they know what to do with.
why they dont drive to enemy positions with armoured vehicle?
They abandoned their armored vehicles and most of their weapons in the wave just before this one. They decided to zerg rush it after the Ukrainians captured their armor and weapons and turned it against the cause why the frick not.
These numbers are surreal
It'd be awesome if Russia could lose so that ammo contracts are being dumped into UKR and we could buy some cheap brass again
how the frick is this figure going between 10,000 to 110,000. The information in this war is really all over the place.
It's par for the course in any conflict during the information age. There were numerous inflated reports of US casualties during the early years of OIF too. We won't have any chance of knowing until it's over.
Yet a genocide perpetrated over the course of 5 years about 80 years ago has a nice, round, unquestionably accurate number. Curious isn't it
Yeah, it is curious how it becomes easier to gather data on a war after it ends and you get access to reliable population data and archived records from both sides of the conflict
Wait no, not curious that was the wrong word
I meant "fricking obvious"
The real difference is Germans keep a tight documentation.
Sometimes I wonder if the reason the holocaust stands out amongst its many contemporaries in the field is simply because of how meticulously the germans documented the whole process, with all that data allowing it to penetrate more deeply into the public consciousness than something like the Hodomor or the Armenian genocide
I thought it more because of the glorification of WW 2, and the holodomor was covered up like what the soviets did to Poland.
It's not, if you actually read up on it there are various estimates. It's just as history goes by it's just gets simpler as it gets taught by moronic teachers dumbing it down for kids (morons)
Anon we have detailed Paris census data going back to the 1300s where they listed exact names, family, and occupations by district and its proven invaluable to historians. The simple fact is that if a gov bothers to WRITE SHIT DOWN it often gets very meticulously recorded
all modern conflicts have exaggerated death tolls. It's fine to question these numbers but not holding that same energy for other wars is brain rot
You really think our figures for any other war are real?
Its just not a good idea when the enemy has an abundance of man portable anti-tank weapons. In such a situation, it's more dangerous to use armoured vehicles in an assault as you're then losing entire squads of men to a few shots before they can even get near the objective.
In an IFV you concentrate the entire group to a single target, having troops on foot means the enemy can't shoot everyone with the same bullet. Didn't save these guys, but that's the idea anyway
Elongated muskrat said armored vehicles are stupid and obsolete so militaries stopped using them.
>Elongated muskrat said armored vehicles are stupid and obsolete so militaries stopped using them.
You know what this means right?
so they're def not obsolete if he says they are.
Because armoured vehicles are expensive and Russian lives are cheap.
What difference would it make?
It ended terrible last time russians left an armoured vehicle unsupervised
They dismount before closing in with the enemy. Once you are close, infantry anti-tank weapons become a threat and the IFVs and APCs are better off providing fire support from out of range of them while the infantry advances.
https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1611615950746357760
>https://twitter.com/ArthurM40330824/status/1611615950746357760
griping is very common in war.
It's just Russian propaganda, of the kind we've been seeing since 2014.
>1950s
Since the 250 BC you mean.
>he thinks infantry rushing the enemy has been obsolete since 250BC
moron. Actual moron.
Old vid, these guys were most likely rotated in December.
>the israelite stands up first
>twitter links
look a trannie
no avatar use Black person
>@ArthurM40330824
It's the laziness of botfarm names that annoys me. It's always a random English sounding name followed by 8 digits.
Like everything else Russia does, it was phoned in by people who don't give a shit.
Amazing, ever since NATO has decided to send armored vehicles into Ukraine these bots have shown up and have ruined this board.
>Ruined
Naa watching all this seething and coping is amusing.
i think the serbs just got a bit excited about the minor ruskie gains
I find it so funny that vatniks call Ukies piggies because they eat pork while Russians don't even have access to fresh meat of any kind. They eat meat out of a can or some kind of shelf stable sausage. A shitload of Russians don't even have refrigeration. What a thirdie country.
>Mandic
The serb appears once again to seethe
Don't worry about it, they're just resting during the Christmas ceasefire
It works better when you got an evolved hivemind that throws billions of lifeforms at the enemy
>comrades, we are being defeated by HATO polish mercenaries. to fight we must adopt HATO tactics
>Da, comrade. I study the tactics of great HATO Anglo-saxi general Haig
Zerg Rush hasn't been a valid tactic in the battlefield since the 1950s, and even during the 1950s China basically lost all its veteran forces doing it for paltry enemy losses inflicted. Anyone advocating for human wave attacks in this day and age should be summarily executed for attempting to undermine the military's efficiency
the chinks kept it up in the 70s against vietnam though
although that was more like napoleonic/american civil war tactics rather than human wave
The goal is to make the defenders kill so many mobiks that they can't live with themselves anymore and either kill themselves or go home. Do you not understand the Russian Psychological warfare plans?
Piggies are gonna have some nasty PTSD.
The two biggest successes Russia has had in this embarrassment of a war are
Making the defending force feel bad for killing so many people in so short of a time because the Ukrainians actually have something called empathy in them
and
Delaying Advance Wars Reboot Camp.
Don't forget delaying Stalker 2 for who knows how many years now.
Truly, the barbarity of Russians knows no limits.
Didn't work on kherson, despite how much it traumatized the Ukrainians.
I was willing to forgive delaying Stalker, but this is a sin I can never forgive them for.
>The goal is to make the defenders kill so many mobiks that they can't live with themselves anymore and either kill themselves or go home. Do you not understand the Russian Psychological warfare plans? Piggies are gonna have some nasty PTSD.
You get PTSD only if you lose a war, like in Vietnam or Afghanistan
No, PTSD is happening at both sides of the conflict. I remember reading about former NVA soldier having PTSD episodes from American bombings and battles.
lmao stfu. frickin dumbass doesn't know how brain work
>If we make you kill us
> until you run out of us to kill,
> then we win.
/k/homies, I think they finally got us with this one
the problem is they're doing it on foot
do what the Iranians did: put them on motorbikes and in jeeps + equip them with suicide vests
When they do this sort of thing is it just so they can try to locate Ukrainian positions to hit with artillery? They don't actually expect these attacks to succeed to they?
Maybe thinning out their penal units?
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if wagner was sending waves of their troops to die while never recording them as casualties so they can keep pocketing their paychecks.
Probably a bit of that and a bit of "well the higher ups said we must attack so send out a wave of meat". It's pretty telling if Russia needs to sacrifice bodies to find artillery to counter shell.
I remember the stories of German machine gunners who went insane with the number of rushits being killed.
No I remember they went insane killing the Brits in ww1 which makes more sense because they were fighting people that time.
>british
>people
ehhhh
I wonder if there are people dumb enough to think those are real quotes.
They are.
Source: I was there, I saw it.
>
The hilarity about the quotes. Which are totally made up, are cited from the following books:
>The Black Man: His Antecedents, His Genius, and His Achievements
>The White Image in the Black Mind: African American Ideas About White People, 1830-1925 (which cited the first book)
Same thing happened to Iraqi soldiers in the Iran-Iraq war, especially the guys in the line against the child soldier units.
have you noticed that the Russians have committed more than 200,000 of their last 300,000 partial mobilization and
>didn't stop the Ukranian offensive in the north
they are already at the gates of Kreminna and Svatove
>Only took 1.5km in Soledar and the village of Yakovlivka to the north
while getting a thousand men killed a day around a 750km fighting border
good luck Russkies, these 300,000 russian men soon to be russian dead were propping up a lot of industry and business in your country
It's okay, Putin already plans to mobilize 500k more
the first 80,000 are mainly destroyed as a fighting force
50,000 deserted, bribed, found to be insane, died, sick
About 100,000 mobiks fighting in Ukraine and the last 100,000+ now committed on assaulting Soledar and Bakhmut, I think professional troops should be around 50,000+, and PMCs/Kadyrovs not more than 30,000
LOL are they going to have gloves or should they bring their own?
Did they poke holes in the ground with a stick and rip leaves on the ground for this image?
If it wasn't for the sheer amount of drone footage and photos I'd honesty refuse to believe half the shit that happens in this war. On the bright side atleast this put an end to that attempt at revisionism where the russians weren't moronicly throwing away men during ww2.
In WW2 they were trading lives for time to get their factories packed onto trains and moved east.
Here they're trading lives for land that they will never own? Political capital? Support at home?
>trading lives for time to get their factories packed onto trains and moved east.
Except they kept doing it in the latter half of the war when they were on the offensive.
can you link that tweet/better image?
The last time zerg tactics "worked" was in the Korean War I believe and the chinks had a hell of a lot more men than that charging.
Not even "zerg tactics", just US/UN troops butthurt about getting outmaneuvered and forced to run whenever they couldn't turn the fight into a static meatgrinder. The Chinks were the ones who were actually outnumbered during the times they managed to gain the most ground.
Also the ukies posted a video from the center of town. After the Russians had claimed to have taken it. LMAO.
Iran/Iraq arguably, see "Operation Ramadan"
god damn. all those people with their own memories and lives thrown away like garbage.
>Litearlly Makiivka barracks tier casualties in a single day in the Bakhmut Superfortress
Ha.. now you shill admit that Makiivka only cost us 50+ conscript.
I said in a day not in this picture you ESL moron
>ESL moron
Thank god, i am not born as mutt, or bong and its colony. Enjoy the rapefugee kek.
>rapefugee
They're called Syrians and there you're new best friends on the world stage. Syrians and Afghans have even started leaving Germany for just as a million Ukrainians have entered, with most Arabs going to Russia. That's one country who got whiter due to the war while Russia got browner. Enjoy your ~~*multipolar world*~~ vatnik.
>Syrians and Afghans have even started leaving Germany for just as a million Ukrainians have entered, with most Arabs going to Russia.
Hilarious if true, source?
enjoy not mattering
That's a bit ironic coming from a vatnik, considering the RF is less than 50% Russian at this point.
You obviously are not Russian or even familiar with Russians either, because they've been seething about this particular topic for the past 7 days (most of the "newbords of New Year" are non-russian).
First of all, it's a war crime. Adding it to my folder of ukro war crimes for enevitable tribunal.
Second, those are obviously ukies. Trust me, I know.
You're just coping because the new offensive on Kiev were planning will crush the israeli nazzis. Two weeks, you'll see. This time for sure.
you try too hard satan.
next time use better disguise.
Yes, but it has its consequences.
A for effort
Why was the spritework in BW so much better than SC2?
SC2 isn't sprites, and most of the people who made SCBW work had either moved on or gotten old and lazy. In some cases the redesigns were deliberate - they wanted the Terrans to look more advanced, ruining their previous excellent visual language for no gain. Everywhere too you see the poisonous influence of World of Warcraft.
They tried to ling rush the siege tanks.
>They tried to ling rush the siege tanks.
Moar like they tried to ling rush a dozen void rays backed up by a couple carriers.
Give them time, soon they'll tech up to Defilers and Dark Swarm the entire battlefield. Two more weeks!
Russia only field Zerglings and Banelings
Can't even upgrade so they can run faster
>banelings
They have suicide bombers?
>Banelings
He's a small guy
4 u
those are actually dead ukrainians
/k/opers bamboozled again
russia is so gay
Right now every action by both sides is a trench by trench bloodbath. Russia is holding back because of world opinion and the West is holding back Ukraine's support for the same reason. So whichever side you support, keep celebrating, you insufferable morons.
>Russia is holding back because of world opinion
lol i'm sure they are, they just forget about it sometimes and terrorbomb cities by accident
getting routed on several fronts and embarrassingly bogged down near their own border did wonders for "world opinion" of russia too
NATO and Russia should have stayed out and let Ukraine deal with its own civil war. This escalation and any future spread of conflict is the result of our own collective stupidity.
Then Russia should get the frick out of Ukraine, lol.
Thanks for your solution, Mr. Secretary General.
>and let Ukraine deal with its own civil war
What civil war?
Think about it.
civ·il war
/ˌsivil ˈwôr/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a war between citizens of the same country.
"they signed a peace accord ending the country's 12-year civil war"
So like Franch Civil War of 1939 where Adolf Hitler led pro-German rebels against French government?
Exactly. A foreign force intervenes in an internal conflict exacerbated by the opposing foreign influences.
Please bite the bait. Come on... I had shades of white and snail species retorts ready to go...
>NATO and Russia should have stayed out and let Ukraine deal with its own civil war.
There was no civil war. Russia invaded Ukrainian territory in 2014. Girkin himself says there was no real seperatists in Donbass till he arrived with a group of FSB.
russia can end this at any time by just walking away
>15 dead ukranians
I AM NOW DEMORALIZED WTFFFFF UKRAINE LOST A WHOLE PLATOON?????????????
that's half a platoon at best
15 is a squad. Well, plus two. I'm not sure what the Russian obsession is with this village right now is, and I'm skeptical about the crowing because they've said they took Bakhmut for like 6 months running now.
Claims are that one of the big wig wants to control Soledar because of its mines. So they can pad their wallet 'after the war'. If they can hold it now they can at least get people selling it.
this is fricking fake! What video game is this from?
Fricking bullshit!
in short, there is always a circumstance where it can work
How do cum/chuggers/ live with their constant embarassment?
Chronic masturbation to Monke and grain alcohol mostly. If that only edges then I go to CNN.
what's the difference between zerg tactics and human wave tactics?
Zerg Rushes are a potential winning strategy in online MMORPGs. Human waves are the equivalent idea in real life.
I don't think you're all that clear on what most of those terms mean.
>what's the difference between zerg tactics and human wave tactics?
Zerg bioforms are not "soldiers" in the way they're used, they're ordnance.
That's Putin's mistake: he keeps 6-pooling, but never builds an evolution chamber or a hydralisk den. Not even a spire. Nothing has been upgraded, blyat!
No NCO Corps == He hasn't spawned amy overlords.
Only question is how long until all mineral fields
and vespene geysers are depleted.
Meanwhile, the Yooks have level 2 everything (except a starport to make wraiths) and have "turtled up" since 2014.
if we're gonna do starcraft analogy
>feb 2022 invasion - march 2022
>overlord drop into main with all defilers and lurkers, they rain into turrets and the ones that did get dropped near starport were scanned and fricked up with siege tanks
>armies of ling/hydra/ultra a-moved up ramps defended by vultures/bunker/tanks
>mutalisks a-moved in ones and twos into turrets
>eco-line gets nuked by sanctions
>april 2022 - september 2022
>infested command centers of LDPR just send out infested terrans against ramps of mines/bunker/tank, all it needs is one or two infested to blow up a bunker and there will be breakthrough
>ukraine goes full macro turtle, scales back unit production for eco and engy bay/armory upgrades/tech up
>psi emitter captures ultras = capturing abandoned vehicles
>drones getting sniped wraiths
>brings up guardians to arty the shit out of bunkers and bio
>ukraine gets goliaths and hellfire missiles to counter guardians
>gets vision by protoss observers that have shared vision and allied victory
>october 2022 - present
>russia has single digit drone count
>keeps up units on the front line with a bunch of queens using spawn broodling ability and occasional ling offensive into ramps defended by mines/bunkers/tanks
breddy gud
Zerg rush and human wave tactics aren't the same, morons. Zerg rushing means quickly sending units to your opponents base at the start of the game.
There's a meme potential
>15
Where are you seeing 15? I counted 6.
Just waiting for a "When Cheese Fails" video about this entire war.
Russias whole strategy is just going from one cheese to the next. They're like Florencio. Well, Florencio if he was blackout drunk and on krokodil.
>car loans
What's the joke here? Mobiks have massive debt, or is the joke better in Ukrainian?
Some people in russia join the army to pay off loans.
You mean Soledar where the Ukies baited in the Russians and killed 200+ of 'em today? LMAO.
>imagine the situation in backmut
Yeah, it's not looking good for pussians..
Is that WP rounds on shot 2 and 3?
no its magnesium
huh weird i though the Mag round smoked less and were more of a high release cluster munition.
Picture is what ground burst WP looks like.
WTF hit them?
M30a1?
bullet
Important questions,
How well would napalm work versus the current trench/urban warfare?
And can you put JDAM or Glidebomb kits on the Mark 77s?
Would a Napalm GSLAB be workable for HIMARS?
>Ukrainian soldiers feel like germane in WW2
Uhh, they do realize Germans got BTFO by Russians, right?
>Uhh, they do realize Germans got BTFO by Russians, right?
20 million dead russians,had to rely their economy on pow slave labor and looted resources the next 5 years
That was when the economic might of America was supplying the communists.
>Uhh, they do realize Germans got BTFO by Russians, right?
>WW1
Lmao no
>WW2
Which side were the Americans on btw and which side are they on now?
They lost in WW1 due to the October revolution and if you think that Germans had any chance of winning against the Soviets in WW2, with or without America, you are truly delusional.
Sorry tankie, but your fake production numbers have been debunked and in reality Soviet production would have never kept up against the kraut horde if it wasn't for the Amerikkkangs
>They lost in WW1
You should've just stopped there
>if you think that Germans had any chance of winning against the Soviets in WW2
>with or without America, you are truly delusional.
Lol
Lmao even.
Soviet leaders are literally on record that Americans carried them and you're calling me delusional?
Anon the USSR was fricking starving to death in WW2. They would have literally all died without US aid.
October revolution happened because Germs and Aus were steamrolling Russia kek.
>adidas tank
>ancient conscripts
>struggling agains WW2 german conscripts
Even when they try to look cool, vatniks end up as living satire.
That's so unrealistic!
Those AK's have optics.
>zerg tactics
Why didn't the Russian cerebrate go for lurkers and mutalisks?
my ukranian war bride is on the way, She's at munich airport now. Pretty soon I'm going to be able to post pictures of fricking her with a giant slava Z etched on her backside while pulling up details on how her boyfriend died in ukraine. It'll be glorious
Just like Based Kermit has prophesied, it has come to pass.
looks like your average western milgay exaggerating the hell out of the situation with the unique mixture of hype and sensationalism that is classic pol
Stupid puppet aside the bit "This isn't as bad as Chechnya. => It's worse" is 100% correct.
The only reason the occident sighted at Putin's sovietic nostalgia and looked away before was because Russia remained a decent commercial partner compared to Arab dictatorship. But now he tried to weaponize economy against most of the world, made Russia into literal Nazi and we invented a word for the level of frickup his army displayed.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blyatzkrieg
How does someone end up as brain rotted as you anon?
NAFO ruined this fricking board. They are 100% getting the shock and awe treatment of the evil putingay fricking their pure ukie waifu spammed until they rope themselves like most trannies
You're mentally ill, anon. Consider therapy, finding God, IDK. Something.
I'd rather just spam pics of my wiener getting sucked with a big Z on my dominant hand, danke
Join the club. Kek
I wonder which building this incident took place in? I'd visit that building after the war just for the memes
I'm sure whoever dropped the bomb has the geo cords and will post them to Twitter some day.
makes me laugh! AHAHA
Thoughts?
https://catbox.moe/c/vmt8dy
First two are nice. The last two are ok at a distance, but the edit's style clashes with the original style when you look at it closely. The colors/shapes are two solid. Try to use the same skin texture.
I'm posting this on /uhg/ if you haven't already.
>no boob tattoo
Coward.
Where swastika
it kills russians, so it's valid, after this war the russian male population is dead, Putin will rule pussy-land forever