Are you fucking sorry?

Oh nonono Gepard doubters, we got too cocky!
>“A Ukrainian military intelligence source says the success of the [Kharkiv] offensive was contingent on American-supplied anti-radiation missiles [&] surface-to-air systems that threatened Russian aircraft: Ukrainian sources single out Germany’s Gepard”
https://nitter.pussthecat.org/shashj/status/1568301368137457665#m

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >oh no there is infantry garrisoning that house!
    >BRRRRT
    >not anymore

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's less of a BRRRT and more of a DAKKA DAKKA

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        brapapapapapapapapapapaa

        Fuck

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1100 rpm is kinda brrrr

      https://i.imgur.com/jfhOFIQ.jpg

      I am not saying sorry, since I had no ill thought beforehand to begin with.

      However I am dying for some footage of 35mm SAPHE tearing a BMP apart.

      i just wanna see it sieve a BTR or tank with sabots

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1100 rpm
        sounds pretty good to me
        where is it in terms of industry standard for that cal

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well it's kinda old but still in use, it's around 550 RPM per cannon.
          more modern stuff like mantis gets 1000 RPM out of a single one.
          otherwise, they are all very similar.

          But they only burst fire in normal conditions like 36 shells (but 2 tanks/gun emplacements fire at the same time for redundancy)

          Shit imagine that with a proper computer tracking system that can predict leads on fast moving aircraft.

          they can accept data link from a different radar station AFAIK but still old shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shit imagine that with a proper computer tracking system that can predict leads on fast moving aircraft.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        god damn, Bauhaus graphic design is so fucking cool.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      brapapapapapapapapapapaa

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I so badly wanna see it shredding aways ground targets.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          See here. Not from Ukraine, though.

          https://twitter.com/gepardtatze/status/1568942532221878273

          >@gepardtatze: Treffer von 35 mm x 228 Vollkaliber des Flakpanzer #Gepard auf ein gepanzertes Ziel. Hier werden kurze Feuerstösse von je 6 Schuss abgefeuert. In Putlos kann man den Schützenpanzer anschauen und die 35 mm Durchschläge bewundern.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        KINO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It seems pretty BRRTT to me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please stop. I can only get so erect

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >SPAAG is effective against CAS calls.
    Who would've even thought.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FAAG is effective against SAC balls.

      Sneed.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    apologize to Germany, now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So has it scored any kills yet?
      >inb4 it gave them a morale boost
      Sure thing, buddy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Given how the sheer rumour of American volunteers sends Russians into panic, I could imagine that rumours of the space age Nazi spaags in the region scared off Russian pilots as well.

        Did they eventually get those AHEAD rounds from Brazil? The Swiss were cunts and refused a direct export.

        I think they got ammo from the Norwegians.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So where the fuck is my Gepard going BRRRRR combat footage

        Secret footage of Gepards in Ukraine. Confirmed kill on Russian helicopter.

        ?t=53

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God I miss this game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            About the closest current equivalent you could get is Regiments, which is kinda like a single-player-only mix between WiC and Wargame.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but footage is confidential. But they shot down KH101 missiles and Mi28 helicopters, and shot at infantry/light armored targets as well.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But they shot down KH101 missiles and Mi28 helicopter
          Ukraine has shot down 6 Russian aircraft and 7 helicopters since the 6th of September

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but we don't know if those were Gepard or other systems. I was talking about confirmed kills by Gepard (but I can't disclose the source)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop being a pussy and leak the footage so Germany sends more shit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sure thing.
          Zero footage of Gepard in action, thread full of gays drooling over a relic wanting reddit rumours to be true.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They do say "threatened", which makes me think they opened up on some stuff at least and caused the Russians to not just bomb the Ukrainians right on their border.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's one confirmed kill of a Kalibre missile. Confirmed by Der Gepardkommandant

          >@gepardtatze: Funktioniert. Gut gemacht.

          https://mobile.twitter.com/gepardtatze/status/1566028506831720448

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >One "well done tweet"
            >confirmed
            That's a bit much, don't you think?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He said "Funktioniert", in english "works" (or "functions"). He was talking about how his system, the Gepard, worked in shooting down that missile.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying anyone expect the re**it tourists ever doubted the germ shit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        got an absolute boner from this footage when it was released

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Zoopark-1
        can't make this shit up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Zoopark-1
        can't make this shit up

        They captured recently one too fully intact

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who got shelled?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russians. It was one of the first released videos of a Pzh2000 barrage. Notice how the first shot already hit the target perfectly without any corrective fire.
          Target was a counter-battery radar system by the way.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sorry Gepard, I'm sorry Germany.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      im sorry Germany, I bought you some Wafer SS as a apology present

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For what? I never doubted Germany.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never doubted Germany, it was just butthurt tourists making a mess on this board.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see why anybody should apologize to us. It was mostly just reddit sneeding that we don't send more weapons. The effectiveness has barely ever been doubted

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry Krauts!!

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not until we see footage of it in action

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, I want to see autocannons turning tanks, buildings & other armored vehicles into swiss fucking cheese.
      I'm still surprised that the entire BMPT idea hasn't been shamelessly copied and actually put on a better chassis.
      Something with enough protection, sensors and ammo to roll up, fuck up everything but MBT's and turn it into swiss cheese.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Theirs a video of a btr4 engaging T series tanks from the rear and them catching fire, haven't you seen it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But isn't the same thing as the puma ?
        big dick auto cannon and rockets.
        Puma has hard and softkill options and they are working on an improved anti drone/helicopter micro radar

        kinda seems the only difference is intended doctrine and maybe that they used a monolithic tank base. Instead of air portable base + kits

        Theirs a video of a btr4 engaging T series tanks from the rear and them catching fire, haven't you seen it?

        the video

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did they eventually get those AHEAD rounds from Brazil? The Swiss were cunts and refused a direct export.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think Gepards can use AHEADs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They can. The A2 version has the fuze setter.

        https://mil.in.ua/en/news/germany-handed-over-the-additional-four-gepard-anti-aircraft-guns-to-ukraine/

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they tested 35mm ammo on a fucking Pz 68 ET

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What else are you going to use it for?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It belongs in a museum.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Swiss were cunts
      who could have imagined this...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        swiss proclaim neutrality while doing everything in their power to fuck you over

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is a reason they are called "Bergjuden"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, they now get ammunition from NAMMO im Norway.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >NAMMO
        Didn't they have to update the firmware in the Gepard's fuze setter in order to recognize Norwegian Ammo?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know why the fuck you'd entrust ammunition production to the Swiss when they'd deny you supply as soon as an actual war kicks off.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        germany didnt entrust swiss with the ammo production
        the Swiss simply had the only significant stockpile of the ammo left in europe as germany simply doesnt use the Gepard anymore

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this is what it was replaced by btw

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Another W for Wiesel-chan lets fucking go

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sad jokes aside, wouldn't it be more efficient to just do this, with a newer AA cannon on the PUMA? SPAAGs are cool but I rarely see them used for anything other than firesupport to the ground, and even in this conflict it looks like MANPADs have been adequate for SHORAD most of the time.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you want to have an AA variant of the puma?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's basically what the US has done for SHORAD, since we can't have nice things

                "Why would we need shorad, we have the air force! they might get pissy if the army shoots planes down, god forbid."

                I'm bitter we never got the M247. It wasn't that bad, they eventually fixed the issues, right in time for them to cancel it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I personally think that small and mobile platforms are more suitable for AA roles
                but yeah that could be interesting

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wiesel would be neat, but I wonder about how much ammo you could stow and how limited the armaments size would be
                Otherwise, yeah it'd actually be hilarious as SHORAD because of how easy it would be to conceal on top of being hilariously mobile.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah ammo storage would be a problem
                I am just hoping that Wiesel-chan gets sent to Ukraine someday and blitzkriegs some tranks
                It would have literally dominated in the recent Kharkiv offensive

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aa missile Ammo?
                That's like saying mine fields sucks because once they blow up some tanks you gotta plant more mines

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh yeah the GDF 20 is an absolutely kino gun

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not exactly. The Ozelot was only a part of the SysFla. The Boxer will probably take the part of the Gepard.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh yeah I forgot that Wiesel Ozelot is only LeSysFla
              My bad

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              God I hope it’s true, same for the Boxer 155 and reintroduction of the Grenadier with the SSW40

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why are germ vehicles such S O V L

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            IFV Ready!
            Need a conversion?
            Watch my dust!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Made for speed.
              Fast and light.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because that's what Rheinmetall wanted to do - it's cheaper to produce in Switzerland.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon that is nonsense on literally every level.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oerlikon was an independent company before they were absorbed by Rheinmetall.
          The 35mm twin cannon was widely used in western and other armies. The Swiss only recently realized they were neutral and couldn't export to warzones.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am not saying sorry, since I had no ill thought beforehand to begin with.

    However I am dying for some footage of 35mm SAPHE tearing a BMP apart.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How low would that aircraft have to fly?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maximum distance 5000 meters, maximum height 3500 meters

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Must be doing great against those shitty Russian drones.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So where the fuck is my Gepard going BRRRRR combat footage

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You will have to wait a bit more for that, footage is highly confidential for now. Maybe in a month

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Prolonged errections destroy erectile tissue, think of the guys here, the need a release to to release.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it needs sum more dakka.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do they have the FAP rounds?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    based olaf

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >squatting on the turret to bless it for use in slavic warfare
      krauts have some powerful sorcery going on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian television claims Germans have no hot running water
        >say Scholz has a dirty ass as result
        >Olaf blesses Gepard with his sparkling clean butt instead
        Deepest lore.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Olaf is taking a dump

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/e9lKM3X.jpg

      >leave the low flying aircraft to me

      >Olaf "russian airmen get the flugabwehrkanonen" Scholz

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's bigger than it looks from photos without anything to reference it against. Or Scholtz is really tiny.
      I like both options so i can only win

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/Tt5xrQE.jpg

        based olaf

        I am not crazy! I know he donated those Gepards. I knew it was a German SPAAG. One with two radar dishes. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot Zelensky to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He’s done worse. That €100 billion ! Are you telling me that a peaceful country just happens to have a giant defense budget? No! He orchestrated it! Olaf! HE DEFECATED THROUGH A GEPARD! And I saved East Germany! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into the Soviet Union! What was I thinking? Germans will never change. They'll never change! Ever since 476 AD, always the same! Couldn’t keep his himself from destroying Europe! But not our Germany! Couldn’t be precious Germany! Stealing them blind! And HE gets to lead the EU? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop him! You...

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >leave the low flying aircraft to me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"A day when people cheer for german weapons killing russian soldiers. Brings a tear to my eyes."

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is only minor developments away from a mecha

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        kek put the tower on two robotic legs

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is only minor developments away from a mecha

          wait till you hear about the marksman turret

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/HovcgiI.jpg

          [...]
          wait till you hear about the marksman turret

          This is only minor developments away from a mecha

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/HovcgiI.jpg

        [...]
        wait till you hear about the marksman turret

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Japs already refer to their version as the Guntank.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Give it legs and call it a Rifleman or Blackjack.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Armored Core literally has a mecha named Gepard that is basically a tracked robot with guns for arms.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Olaf "only a dead russian is a good russian" Scholz

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SCHÜTZER SCHOLZ

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf I like Scholz now?

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With drones and helicopters being quite useful in this war I wonder if the old Cold War Autocannon spam on treads will make a massive comeback.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The new BRRRRTTT to rule all other BRRRRTTT.

    Put wings on it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >AeroGepard
      new reformer vehicles

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are they using NASAM in Kharkiv?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how many long range weapons do russia have? 5 million?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Our main issue with Germany isn't that it hasn't sent help. It's that it hasn't sent ENOUGH.

    Neither have you, SWEDEN! Where the Gripens at? Ukraine just routed the Russians! Send the weapons!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a huge missed advertisement opportunity for Saab.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        like always Saab makes the worst decisions possible when it comes to selling anything

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        like always Saab makes the worst decisions possible when it comes to selling anything

        Especially since they haven't had a single foreign sale since 2014! What the fuck is Saab thinking?

        Get off your fucking useless ass!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Would they really have combat ready planes sitting around that hadn't been ordered by anyone? If not then they'd have to build them which must take a year or so, and find someone to pay for it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally what better advertisement than Russian planes getting blown up by Gripens

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Germany is busy trying to fix its armed forces and doesn't have the luxury of just being able to send off obsolete USSR shit while suffering the most from the consequences of sending things at all.
      I'm surprised they sent anything at all and it's not like they sent little, they sent a lot more than most, especially since they have a lot more reasons notto han anybody else.
      How much would enough even be? Is there an amount anybody can point to or is enough only reached when people stop whining about it not being enough?
      Because that's never going to happen. Why would they? It would only be to the disadvantage of Ukraine, whether it's true or not.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're also engaging in the whole ring trading scheme, where they send their stuff to various eastern euro nations to replace the old soviet stuff those are sending to Ukraine.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That doesn't count because it doesn't make for cool tweets.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It also doesn't seem to be working all that well, even if it is a good idea.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      After the successes at Kharkiv there's now an initiative across most German parties (commies and nazis excluded) to convince Scholz to finally allow the shipment of Leopard 2 tanks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        as a german I have never heard of this
        any sources?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/ampel-bundesregierung-waffenlieferungen-ukraine-101.html

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i-i I cant believe it
            my german politicians doing something good?
            I must be fucking dreaming

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah, they people who always demanded more weapons now demand more weapons once again. And Olaf the most likely compromised doesn't care.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >we get to see panzers in crimea again

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Ukies don't need or want those yet, so you guys better just have them stockpiled for them when they do.
        They're still at the point where it'd be more of a logistic burden, one of the Armor Lieutenants said.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >need
          True
          >want
          Leopard 2 tanks are the thing they've been asking for constantly. Their prime minister was in Germany last week and he specifically asked for Leopards 2. And just two days ago when the German foreign minister was in Kyiv the Ukrainian foreign minister asked for Leopards 2 as well. They really want them Leopards 2.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The politicians were asking for something while the actual army says it's not a priority
            Imagine my shock
            Though the interview I did see was a couple months ago so maybe it has changed.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To be fair I think the prime minister and minister of foreign affairs wouldn't make request like these without the army's suggestion. They could've asked for any other weapon system after all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The politicians were asking for something while the actual army says it's not a priority
            Imagine my shock
            Though the interview I did see was a couple months ago so maybe it has changed.

            I imagine it'd be a different story if they actually got a good number of them. They just don't want some tiny amount that creates a larger logistical burden than it's worth.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              this is it
              I think I remember that Ukie interview and he basically said the same thing that a western MBT in low quantity is more of a problem than its worth it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Army is jokingly saying they need no Leopards anymore; since so many
            T-80BMV and T-72B3 has been captured in Kharkov Oblast

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You think you just get them? First you will have to finish a 3 months crash course on the theory of armored advance and handling of Leopard 2 MBT.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dimitry I am sorry to tell you but you have failed the Drivers Test for Class F
            >we will not be allowing you to drive your Leopard2
            >Your gonna have to reapply at the TüV for another Test next week

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        66% of the linke support aiding Ukraine, not that far from the CDU

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The commie party and commie voters are different people.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >66% of the linke support aiding Ukraine
          I honestly don't think they actually do. They are currently fighting for survival, so they have to go with the mainstream, It's probably 40-50%, but social desirability bias makes the number go up.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Ukies don't need or want those yet, so you guys better just have them stockpiled for them when they do.
        They're still at the point where it'd be more of a logistic burden, one of the Armor Lieutenants said.

        I imagine the best way to do it would be to settle on one type (say Leo 2) and try to scrape together a 100 or whatever number makes sense from all the countries that operate it in EU/NATO, since giving away a sensible amount seems to be too much for Germany alone. That would also shut up Scholz's "no going at it alone" meme.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IMHO this is why Lep 2 makes sense as western MBT for Ukraine (rather than Abrams), diffuse responsibility for supply and training. Harder for Russia to retaliate when a dozen countries are supplying, plus American tank makes it easier for Russia to propagandize their losing to the US not Ukraine with broad foreign support.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh boy. We've already seen the Russkies go full PTSD at jsut the rumor of actual Panzers coming. Could you imagine the reaction when they meet the actual thing?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're panicking, they don't want Ukraine and other neighbors to be in the Anglosphere. That'd mean the UK and US would basically take Russia's place as the energy dictators to Germany and France. Hence the big push by politicians for last-minute louie support so postwar construction rights will be a bit easier to negotiate for.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >UK
          irrelevant

          The US is the great profiteer of this war and Germany had already lost when Russia started it since they (and France who have been even more paralyzed) were the only ones trying to prevent Russia from becoming fully isolated in Europe. Putin might as well become a honorary citizen of the US for his work destroying all of this.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much.
            Ukraine also wants to get into the EU - the same one bongs are trying their hardest to piss off right now. Unless that changes, they're not getting a foot in the door in ukraine.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >EU loses UK
              >Gets a new UKr, with Hunter Biden approved hookers and cocaine
              7 dimensional chess

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >US
          >UK
          Oh no how horrible. We would get our energy from allied democracies instead of some shithole dictatorship that's been funding every subversive movement in our country for decades. The horror. Germanbros we're doomed.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bongs think we're secretly their enemies, much like poles. They also delude themselves that the US thinks the same (they don't). The rest of NATO knows we're just kinda lukewarm allies.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The anglos aren't any more our friends than the russkies, you dumb fucking green piece of shit.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Lol no one likes Germany

              But isn't the same thing as the puma ?
              big dick auto cannon and rockets.
              Puma has hard and softkill options and they are working on an improved anti drone/helicopter micro radar

              kinda seems the only difference is intended doctrine and maybe that they used a monolithic tank base. Instead of air portable base + kits

              [...]

              the video

              That's not the video it's this one

              Sorry for link.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah i just saw that i linked the wrong one

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Americans mostly have a positive view of Germany and think your cars and other quirks are cool but that you sometimes have autistic outbursts like in the 40s.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >UK

          UK ain't exporting energy, dumbass.

          Norway is making out big in all this.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >UK ain't exporting energy, dumbass.

            70% of the UK's gas is going to the EU right now. Of the 30% going to the UK, much of it is going to fire the gas power stations what we pretty much never need outside of winter in order produce extra electricity which is mostly going to France due to their gimped nuclear generation atm. we were sending like 30GW of electricity to Europe the other day.

            That's before you factor in our LNG terminals and excess pipeline capacity to benelux/germany. Europe has been utterly dependent on our LNG terminals because they have next to no spare capacity in Spain and France to make up for the extra German demand.

            Europe would be fucked without us, but that's fine because we're trying to help. The problem is unless we get something on paper very soon, we need to start looking after ourselves. We have always exported most of our gas to Europe in the summer because Europe has loads of storage capacity (countries with no production usually spend lots of storage) we then buy stored gas back from Europe in the winter a slight premium (but this is usually less than the cost of us storing it ourselves. Now Euope has been struggling to fill it's winter sotrage, so we may get to a point in winter where they decide not to sell to us anymore. Hopefully an agreement is put in place where that isn't an issue, but if not the UK is turning off the natural gas too and storing it's own and possibly redirecting the LNG in the winter.

            It's clear whats in everyone's interests, it just requires the EU to accept that it needs the UK.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They're panicking
          Not really. There has always been a very strong lobby for supplying Ukraine with more weapons in Germany. They're the guys who managed to convince the government to finally send those gepards and pzh 2000 to Ukraine. The issue is there also a strong hippy lobby made up of politicians who genuinely believe in the "muh noooks" ruse, defeatists that think Russia is unbeatable and some crooks whom Putin bought.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Holy shit what the fuckiswrong with british snobs always trying to make absolutely everything about themselves?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            their still seething about brexit and nobody caring about them leaving

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it runs deeper they still cant cope with the loss of the empire
              scotland wants to leave too and the monarchy is on shaky grounds

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The best fucking part is that they basically let it all go, their fucking empire. They could've seriously tried playing the Neo-Colonialism game but fucking gave up on that too.
                Then they fucking started gutting their own country.
                Bongs are mad at everyone but the people they should be mad at, their ruling class.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, they're better off without that empire. Look at France and how much time/money/effort they wasted to keep their empire then neo-colonialism only to lose it all to China.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, this really doesn't indicate they've lost their influence/empire(?) it just indicates that they aren't the largest trading partner anymore. They're still a huge chunk of trade from all of those nations, and because of the nature of growing economies, a smaller percentage of a larger pie means they're probably making more money in absolute terms today than they were in 2000.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More trade power means more diplomatic power. China's neo colonialism has been pretty successful, particularly because they've been buying up all the infrastructure and when they couldn't because it's illegal they just loaned them money to build new infrastructure with the new infrastructure as the collateral of the loan the morons could obviously never pay back.
                Nogs don't pay, China owns the pipes, highways, electricity grid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And they have the nerve to accuse the West of "imperialist attitudes".

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >China's neo colonialism has been pretty succesful
                It has been an apparent success that will turn into a comically expensive failure in the long term, much like the original colonial efforts.
                Africa is an investment black hole, the only winning move is to stay out of it and just buy the exports.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's just a sign of modernisation and development instead of only food importation (France makes a lot of food)
                Every country basically has china as its top trading partner, because they make nearly everything mass produced.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >playing the Neo-Colonialism game
                The only winning move is not to play. You can't control a bunch of black and brown people to your own benefit. Best you can get is preferential treatment in trade deals, but the importance of that is really minor. And keeping canada and australia/nz under the thumb just wasn't going to happen, they have different strategic interests and no desire to be more than allied with the uk.
                The simple fact is, brits and especially english got dealt a great hand those past couple centuries and got used to having power over other nations. Now the hand is spent and they're just one among equals. And they've yet to come to terms with it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            their still seething about brexit and nobody caring about them leaving

            it runs deeper they still cant cope with the loss of the empire
            scotland wants to leave too and the monarchy is on shaky grounds

            The best fucking part is that they basically let it all go, their fucking empire. They could've seriously tried playing the Neo-Colonialism game but fucking gave up on that too.
            Then they fucking started gutting their own country.
            Bongs are mad at everyone but the people they should be mad at, their ruling class.

            You sound like a bunch of jealous women

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Bongs never sound like anything else.
              Sometimes the woman is gnomish though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one mentioned the British until the first guy went autism mode seen here

                Holy shit what the fuckiswrong with british snobs always trying to make absolutely everything about themselves?

                Then the chain reaction was started, its always the same though eurofags seething about the UK it's pretty tiring especially when the euros say its the bongs that start shit flinging when it's clearly the oposite.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >UK ain't exporting energy, dumbass.

          70% of the UK's gas is going to the EU right now. Of the 30% going to the UK, much of it is going to fire the gas power stations what we pretty much never need outside of winter in order produce extra electricity which is mostly going to France due to their gimped nuclear generation atm. we were sending like 30GW of electricity to Europe the other day.

          That's before you factor in our LNG terminals and excess pipeline capacity to benelux/germany. Europe has been utterly dependent on our LNG terminals because they have next to no spare capacity in Spain and France to make up for the extra German demand.

          Europe would be fucked without us, but that's fine because we're trying to help. The problem is unless we get something on paper very soon, we need to start looking after ourselves. We have always exported most of our gas to Europe in the summer because Europe has loads of storage capacity (countries with no production usually spend lots of storage) we then buy stored gas back from Europe in the winter a slight premium (but this is usually less than the cost of us storing it ourselves. Now Euope has been struggling to fill it's winter sotrage, so we may get to a point in winter where they decide not to sell to us anymore. Hopefully an agreement is put in place where that isn't an issue, but if not the UK is turning off the natural gas too and storing it's own and possibly redirecting the LNG in the winter.

          It's clear whats in everyone's interests, it just requires the EU to accept that it needs the UK.

          what's up with bongoids and their delusions of grandeur? mourn your dead old bitch and fuck off, you're nothing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >delusions of grandeur?

            Being the largest LNG hub in Europe and also sending 70% of our gas to Europe is a delusion? Fine freeze to death, I don't care. Have fun using Norway alone, there's no pipeline capacity.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Being the largest LNG hub in Europe
              >hub
              lmao GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND, it's about time your small island finally dies, you have nothing of value and boasting about being literal happy merchant tier (must be the many muslims) really shows your true colors

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                meds

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no storage
                Yeah

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thinking your shitty exports matter is a delusion of grandeur, now fucking have a nice day br*tbong fucking retard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They matter to Germany who had to cut gas use by 15% even before nordstream was turned off lol

                You are utterly reliant on LNG arriving in the UK and our natural gas. Say thank you or you'll have to beg somewhere else.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    two pzh2000 rolling to charkow
    https://twitter.com/gepardtatze/status/1568335619704619009

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    autocannon winged spider drones that use recoil to glide and reposition

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it just me or is there a lot of arms industry shills involved in this war?
    OP might well be german and Oryx 100% works for the turkish government

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They always are in every war.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        or on PrepHole in general
        and I am one of them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it just me or is there a lot of arms industry shills involved in this war?
      M8 if i were from the arms industry i would literally camp 24/7 near politicians begging them to send my shit (even giving some for free)
      Forget eurosatory, such a chance to promote your stuff happens once in a century, and it's against a supposed superpower that exported their shit everywhere on top of that

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gepard upgunned with 4x Stinger is based, but I don't think Ukraine got that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they already got a lot of stuff doing that tbh
      the gepard may deal with planes in short range and alert surrounding MANPAD carriers about incoming airplanes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but it looks cooler when it's mounted on the tank

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure the Gepards only need to turn on their radar for target illumination, with all the full radar coverage by NATO.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Insider information, cannot provide source: 2 of those Gepard sent to Ukraine have this modification installed

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What does this even do? Shoot bullets at planes? Good luck with that

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reportedly, a Su-34 was downed by a Gepard today. Definite confirmation still pending.

    https://twitter.com/gepardtatze/status/1569022957984555009

    >@gepardtatze: Es wurde mir heute schon ein paar mal geschrieben, dass diese #Suchoi SU-34 von einem Flakpanzer #Gepard 1A2 im Raum #Kharkiv abgeschossen wurde. Ich habe dazu aber noch keine offizielle Bestätigung.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Flugabwehrkanonenpanzersupercalifragilisticexpialidocious

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I called it.
    The Gepard is most useful as an offensive tool that follows the armored spearhead, not for defending stationary locations.
    Feels great to see all this cold war doctrine and equipment finally be used in the intended manner.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Gepard is most useful as an offensive tool that follows the armored spearhead, not for defending stationary locations.
      Fundamentally all the Gepard does is defend stationary locations, but because it has tracks, you can just drive it alongside your armored spearhead.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Better, actually. It has a 2-plane stabilizer like a normal Leopard, so it can engage targets while the armor column is moving, unlike those 9k330s Tors that got rekt by Bayraktar because they were doing a road march.
        It also has enough armor to resist artillery barrage better than most SHORAD platforms. It's made to protect the tip of the armored spear.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pzh 2000 still shit
    Lepards too
    ...
    REEEEEEEEEEEE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do no send leopards or we will nuke the pipeline and germany frozen

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why isn't Germany making Gepards 2 mounted on the Leopard 2 chassis? This is something that baffles me.

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      Anonymous
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        Anonymous

        reminder you can slap that turret on everything. there have been tests on containers, turrets and also the Piranha apc. so putting that on a leopard hull is probably eez

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd like some enlongated vehicle with twin turrets and a radar in the middle.
          Like a land battleship.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But why? The platform is at the end of its lifecycle and up until recently, AAA had no useful application.
      Putting it on platforms that will remain in service for 30 years is the better move.

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  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why tho, are the Russians scared their planes get mowed down by them?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What makes the Gepard superior to the Tunguska? The difference between 30 and 35mm seems minor and the Tunguska has missiles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gepard can also mount missiles with a few minor tweaks, and the 35 mm guns can fire programmable flak shells.
      In fact, one of the early hiccups was that the combat firmware couldn't recognize the RFID of newer NAMMO rounds, and didn't program them correctly, until it got an update.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wonder how old this shitbox is? (maybe fake cross)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The cross is fake, the picture itself is not related to the what's going on in ukraine

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That looks like Southeast US, training area most likely. The takeout and pepsi can make it feel very American too

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no steppy on geppy
    Who the hell is going to try and climb on the radar? Knuckles the Echidna?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I could see myself doing it in a drunk enough mood without a stark reminder
      And you may not necessarily trust a random stranger on the internet but take it from me the average soldier is even worse than me when drunk.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We need Leo2s in the field now. All these tools that were designed to kill Russians and never got the chance ..

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's going through his mind right now?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wohlauf kameraden

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You all thought I was crazy for saying AAA would be effective in this theater. Every single aircraft flies at nearly ground level. The Gepard was BUILT for this shit.

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