Are we wrong about mechas the same way people were wrong about tanks?

Are we wrong about mechas the same way people were wrong about tanks? When tanks were first thought of, people laughed at the idea thinking it was too impractical, and it was, for the technology of the time. But the brittish and french made it work, skip a few decades and look how impactful tanks were in WW2.

What is your opinion on the matter? What are the positive applications of a large, highly mobile and fast humanoid armored suits? If we could overcome the main hurdles of powering them, would mechas replace tanks or aircrafts?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>>/m/

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Said it before and I'll say it again - the only practical purposes for mechs (assuming the tech for it just magically works), is to either be heavy-infantry for breaching and the like, or to act like jump-jet attack helicopters that race around the battlefield and blast things with heavy firepower.
    Any mech that trundles around slowly while also being tall as shit is just going to get shot to shit.
    Only options I can see are just 'tall and heavy infantryman' or 'bipedal gunship with a jetpack.'

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP pic is a knightmare frame, which imo is the most practical gundam-like mecha. They are smaller than most mechs (a standing adult is like the size from the mech's shoulder to waist), highly mobile and really fast both on natural and urban terrain.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's not even a Knightmare, it's a sloppy photoshop edit of a Peil Tech mobile suit from The Witch From Mercury.
        The designer did a lot of work for Armoured Core.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I could understand powered armor or even a mini-mecha like the Mog from Brigador or a Landmate from Appleseed, but I don't think a large profile mech makes sense. The large profile makes it an easy target vulnerable to man-portable missiles and drones, just like tanks. Squads of PA-wearing infantry with missiles/chainguns/whatever seem like a much better option.

          Straight-up Mirage AC design.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Or mountain warfare, i.e. the application that the US military has actually expressed interest in and tested walking vehicles for.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. When light deflecting plates become common they will be more valuable on mechs than on tanks as the mechists have a better field of view. Tanks will move to coil guns while mechs will move to lasers and plasma. Eventually, all tanks will be self-propelled artillery and mechs will be in the direct infantry support role. Also, when dominant governments go to fight insurgents they will use mechs as terror weapons.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Neat worldbuilding

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Use case for mechs is probably more in logistics than combat. Having a guy who can unload a truck in half the time with a quarter of the exertion is a big deal. The problem with mechs, almost invariably is any development in technology also applies to tanks, so there's always going to be that advantage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, mechs make far more sense in space. Anyone who played the old Gundam games remembers. War was basically fluid between space and terrestrial scapes so variability mattered more in that high tech far future scenario.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        LMAO. This is the kind of thing said by a frickwit with no understanding of what an orbit is. You're a drooling waste of genetic potential who thinks that spacecraft work like sea going ships.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I actually have no idea what he's talking about so if I call him stupid enough it'll distract from the fact I have nothing of value to say.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, mechs make far more sense in space. Anyone who played the old Gundam games remembers. War was basically fluid between space and terrestrial scapes so variability mattered more in that high tech far future scenario.

      Behold! A mech!

      We already see arms and a waist on Excavators and Spider Excavators have legs. That's basically 70% of a mech already.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You post this every time and it doesn’t get any less dumb.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I am incapable of doing anything other than call other people dumb.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also, carrier ships were deploying all of the units. Operational speed didn't matter at all, which is the one advantage tanks have over mechs today, because fleet carriers were just flittering about getting into their own fights and dropping off mechs wherever they were needed on land or in space.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It will only happen if we get some kind of direct neural interface control scheme for vehicles working, then it would make sense to have legs and arms because hey the pilots have legs and arms so learning how to control the vehicle isn't equivalent to relearning how to walk.

    >okay, now just will your treads to move bro
    >bro I don't have treads, I have legs, why didn't you just give the robot legs, I already know how to use legs, you guys are fricking idiots

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Brain is far more flexible than you think (ironically)
      We already have a technology that allows controlling computer with a brain chip without moving a muscle

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's still going to take less time to learn to mentally control a thing that has the same basic body shape as you, and moves the same way as you do via such a method than to do the same with a locomotion method that is wholly alien to biological creatures. It's as easy as plug the brain in and just walk bro, you do know how to walk don't you? All the training has effectively already been done for you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the justification I use in my Lancer homebrew for mechs. You can use DNI in tanks and other vehicles for even greater effect, but you need to get your entire brain restructured and become a fricked-up ex-human cyborg (read: boss).

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's still going to take less time to learn to mentally control a thing that has the same basic body shape as you, and moves the same way as you do via such a method than to do the same with a locomotion method that is wholly alien to biological creatures. It's as easy as plug the brain in and just walk bro, you do know how to walk don't you? All the training has effectively already been done for you.

      I'm not so sure that robot legs are easily interchangeable with human legs when it comes to your nervous system.
      We constantly send signals to our legs that do all kinds of things including muscle contractions, but that's not necessarily a direct analogue to how robot legs might work; certainly it's not how current designs work.
      If you can use computers to translate these signals so that robot legs respond to them with the same practical effects that human legs would have then I don't really see why it would necessarily be much harder to do the same for tank treads.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > large
    >highly mobile and fast
    > humanoid
    >armored
    You can get three if you leave out humanoid
    If you pick humanoid, pick at most one other category

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      mechs should have multiple legs,either spider or crab like

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm ok with this. God determined that all must become crab in the end

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tanks today are a meme
    morons are building mbts and then using them as stugs instead of just building modern stugs for urban assaults
    the closest thing is the merkava, but it's operated by dumb people too so you get poor results nonetheless

    there should only be 3 classes of manned armored vehicles
    TDs like the swede ones that are very low profile
    assault tanks that can wreck buildings and cover, made specifically to do this
    and lastly armored troop carriers that can bring people and things in and out of the ao safely

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they should evolve out of exoskeletons over the next couple hundred years

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Take the Heavy Gear pill

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Does so good at figuring out a nitch for mechs.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Recon and EW/Anti-drone
    >why
    dunno

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