Winter War ended in 3 months, and the Finns were relieved to concede only a small part of their land. That's not gonna happen here, it's all or nothing.
Our army were near total collapse, but Mannerheim and other generals hid it as best as they could so we could go on for peace negotiations on better terms.
Had almost twice the manpower in the Continuation War than was involved in the Winter War. Even had thousands of Germans relieving Fins in the North from having to hold Petsamo and advance towards Murmansk.
Fins stabbed the Germans in the back by acquiescing to allied pressure and agreeing to stop supporting operations to cut off the Soviets from lend lease aid from Murmansk and informed the allies they were going to cease offencive military operations by December 3rd 1941.
If it was up to me Finland wouldn't be allowed to join NATO at all. You're terrible fricking allies.
>You're terrible fricking allies. >Winter war: Finland with western support Vs. Soviet with axis support. >Continuation war: Finland with Axis allies Vs. Soviet with western allies. >Lapland war: Finland Vs. Axis. >All during 1939-1945.
Yeah. Frick these wishy-washy fence jumpers.
cutting murmansk railroad would've done nothing, Russia had more ports further east. We had a population of 3 million, We had basically no additional reserves in addition to the 500 000 man army we had, taking leningrad would've knocked us out of the war.
Also reminder the only reason we allied with Germany was because the west abandoned us.
Germany sold Finland to Russia, it is the reason why Winter War began. Because of Germany.
In the Continuation War, Germany only helped us because they wanted to stretch the front for Barbarossa
There was some help, but yes, incomporable. But hey, Sir Christopher Lee started his military intelligence career by volunteering on your side. You literally had the man who inspired the creation of James Bond on your side slaughtering commies.
>Six miles of ground has been won >Half a million men are gone >And as the men crawled the general called >And the killing carried on and on >How long? >What's the purpose of it all? >What's the price of a mile?
The Karelian Finns are dead, all there is now is old, alcoholic bolseviks. Rebuilding Karelia would cost us the equivalent of around a 100 years worth of Finnish GDP.
There is 0 reason to reclaim it anymore, it's all shit now.
More like what winter war could've been with concrete international support. Well that's kinda dishonest to say since US and UK played a large part of keeping Finland independent during during surrender negotiations
No the winter war started with the soviets being unable to defeat the finnish and taking massive casultied. The soviets eventually managed to break through which caused the Finns to sue for peace and give large parts of Finland to the soviets.I highly doubt this is going to end with a russian victory.
The Soviets actually could save face with the winter war and gain some territories.
The Russians will lose territory compared to 2014, at best, keep Crimea maybe
Not really, if you look at the comparisons of just how much soviets lost troops and equipment compared to finns it pales in comparison, we are speaking 10x losses in everything in the minimum here.
No, this is more like valkyria chronicles no joke. Finns fought well and hard but ultimately they had no answer to the soviet war machine and had to hope for losing as little as possible. Ukraine will regain all lost territories and put the russhits to flight.
Finland would lose brutally and become the Finnish SSR if they didn't concede Karelia after three months of fighting.
Ukraine is going to blitz into Moscow by around this time next year at this rate.
Winter War ended in 3 months, and the Finns were relieved to concede only a small part of their land. That's not gonna happen here, it's all or nothing.
Not really, in winter war it was whole mighty Soviet union with 170 million people versus Finland with only 3,5 million people.
Which should really have warned russia off from trying winter war v2 against a country of 44 million
No, because Ukrainians are going to win this one.
This is the Russo-Japanese War fused with the Winter War actually
History doesn’t repeat but it does rhyme, as they say.
No, because Finland actually had to concede in the end.
on the other hand, nobody fricking helped us.
we gave you most of your weapons
t. sweden
neutral autism bit us though, being anti-commie in 1939 would've been fine
Hardly most. Grateful for what the Swedes actually gave though
Our army were near total collapse, but Mannerheim and other generals hid it as best as they could so we could go on for peace negotiations on better terms.
>nobody fricking helped us
b-but we let the soviets use our airfields to drop humanitarian breadbaskets on helsinki
Well you sure as shit returned the favor when you guys let the Soviets keep Leningrad and helped Germany lose the war.
We didnt have the manpower to do jack shit to Leningrad.
Had almost twice the manpower in the Continuation War than was involved in the Winter War. Even had thousands of Germans relieving Fins in the North from having to hold Petsamo and advance towards Murmansk.
Fins stabbed the Germans in the back by acquiescing to allied pressure and agreeing to stop supporting operations to cut off the Soviets from lend lease aid from Murmansk and informed the allies they were going to cease offencive military operations by December 3rd 1941.
If it was up to me Finland wouldn't be allowed to join NATO at all. You're terrible fricking allies.
>You're terrible fricking allies.
>Winter war: Finland with western support Vs. Soviet with axis support.
>Continuation war: Finland with Axis allies Vs. Soviet with western allies.
>Lapland war: Finland Vs. Axis.
>All during 1939-1945.
Yeah. Frick these wishy-washy fence jumpers.
cutting murmansk railroad would've done nothing, Russia had more ports further east. We had a population of 3 million, We had basically no additional reserves in addition to the 500 000 man army we had, taking leningrad would've knocked us out of the war.
Also reminder the only reason we allied with Germany was because the west abandoned us.
Frick the germans and their death cult imperium, they deserved to get rekt.
Also, Molotov-Ribbentrop, so get fricked twice, krautlover.
>t.
how does this make me a Russian troll? Frick them just as much as the germans. What part of Molotov-Ribbentrop did you miss?
Germany sold Finland to Russia, it is the reason why Winter War began. Because of Germany.
In the Continuation War, Germany only helped us because they wanted to stretch the front for Barbarossa
Sweden gave you lots of equipment and volunteers. More or less disarmed themselves for your sake when Germany was looming.
There was some help, but yes, incomporable. But hey, Sir Christopher Lee started his military intelligence career by volunteering on your side. You literally had the man who inspired the creation of James Bond on your side slaughtering commies.
>Six miles of ground has been won
>Half a million men are gone
>And as the men crawled the general called
>And the killing carried on and on
>How long?
>What's the purpose of it all?
>What's the price of a mile?
Tbf i'm surprised that his body stayed out for so long and wasn't picked by animals
they were full from other dead russians
"Ivan Bydloslav's body lies a moulderin' out of doors..."
This is going to be an iconic photo of the war, on par with the Iranian soldier wearing a gas mask or that ARVN general executing a VC
No, the Finns ultimately lost the war. This is more like the Russo Jap war and polish soviet war
Finland won, USSR no longer exists
Come on Finland, this is your prime time to right old wrongs and get Karelia back in the incoming scramble for russia, do not relent.
there will be some.. border adjustments
Yes but we don't really want the people living there now.
What if we don't want it back?
The things needed to reclaim it and bring it up to Finnish standards may not be economically or morally viable.
everything the russians have infested is a shithole
This.
unfortunately its fricking full of russians, all others having been replaced, and genocides or mass deportations are no longer cool
The Karelian Finns are dead, all there is now is old, alcoholic bolseviks. Rebuilding Karelia would cost us the equivalent of around a 100 years worth of Finnish GDP.
There is 0 reason to reclaim it anymore, it's all shit now.
More like what winter war could've been with concrete international support. Well that's kinda dishonest to say since US and UK played a large part of keeping Finland independent during during surrender negotiations
continuation war*
No, this war was fought during the summer.
Putin ordered invasion middle of mud season like a complete moron
No the winter war started with the soviets being unable to defeat the finnish and taking massive casultied. The soviets eventually managed to break through which caused the Finns to sue for peace and give large parts of Finland to the soviets.I highly doubt this is going to end with a russian victory.
The Soviets actually could save face with the winter war and gain some territories.
The Russians will lose territory compared to 2014, at best, keep Crimea maybe
>The Soviets actually could save face with the winter war
massive troll
Not really, if you look at the comparisons of just how much soviets lost troops and equipment compared to finns it pales in comparison, we are speaking 10x losses in everything in the minimum here.
No, this is more like valkyria chronicles no joke. Finns fought well and hard but ultimately they had no answer to the soviet war machine and had to hope for losing as little as possible. Ukraine will regain all lost territories and put the russhits to flight.
Russia wishes they had magical ice witches or wunderwaffen tanks
Finland would have chewed through to Moscow if it wasn't for that meddling US lend lease program supplying the ruskies.
Its the Triple-Alliance War vol.2 with the Russians cosplaying as Paraguya
yeah, only nothing will save russia when the Chinese blitz them
lol this is fake as frick if its trying to look real and not very funny if its trying to be comedic
No because Winter war was fought Finnish vs Ukrainian troops. This war is fought Russians vs Ukrainian troops
No. Not yet. Try again on January 1st, 2023.
yes
Reminder that most of the Soviet troops fighting in Finland were ukies.
So the soviets had hard time even with their best troops?
On the contrary, sending troops unaccustomed to the kind of cold there is in Finland was a debuff.
WEF is basicaly nazi germany
probably gonna go too fack next year and start WW3
get a lot of ammo fast boys
is this
armata
Did they write "Fury" on a Soviet tank?
Finland would lose brutally and become the Finnish SSR if they didn't concede Karelia after three months of fighting.
Ukraine is going to blitz into Moscow by around this time next year at this rate.