Are these kinds of losses moderate and sustainable?

Are these kinds of losses moderate and sustainable?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buhanka genocide ongoing and nobody cares.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Desertcross-chan will be the new loaf

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Desertcross-chan
        Has anyone drawn this yet? We already have the Buhanka e-girl

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          What would that even look like? An emaciated chink e-girl?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >emaciated chink tomboy
            >eyebags, bandages
            uuooh

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Get on it, drawgays

              https://i.imgur.com/hmBxfXg.jpeg

              [...]
              [...]
              Add to the list

              Where is the turtle tank BBW?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          What would that even look like? An emaciated chink e-girl?

          >emaciated chink tomboy
          >eyebags, bandages
          uuooh

          Add to the list

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >camera
    >Survellience equipment
    Is this padding or are they blowing up EWAR systems or what? Anyone know what this batrep is from?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're dedicated surveillance systems. Murom-P for example is pic related.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        so does the computer system alert the operator when it detects something or is it up to the operate to just stare at the screen looking for movement?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It does, yes. Can also identify, track them, and mark them on a map.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Anyone know what this batrep is from?
      https://x.com/AndrewPerpetua
      http://losses.ukrdailyupdate.com/

      >flatbread truck
      How baked was the person who put this together?

      I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a pun. "Loaf" on that list is the UAZ-452 (and its derivatives), whose nickname, Buhanka, literally means loaf (of bread). "Flatbread truck" is probably a flatbed version of a Buhanka, like the UAZ-3303.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are gonna run out in 3 weeks

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >flatbread truck
    How baked was the person who put this together?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Buhanka (loaf) modified into a flatbed?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      don't diss, he was cooking

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Carlos!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I might get a bit sour and burned if I had to catalog blown up shitboxes from 1960 all day.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Transporting blins to the frontline for morale purposes.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it's been interesting seeing most arty destroyed being D-somethings

    but per ziggers and ukies, russian arty still fires about 3x as many shells as the ukies, although this is a big improvement from 10x in 2022 and about 6x in 2023.

    i wonder when TAD will finally arrive

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Given that Russian artillery was way less accurate BEFORE they started relying on nork shells fired out of barrels that haven't been replaced in a year+, Ukraine has actually been getting artillery superiority in many areas because the russkies just no longer have the volume required for true saturation

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      3x is fricking amazing given accuracy differences

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That trend suggests parity by next year which would have seemed like a bizarro world fantasy scenario before the invasion

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, Russia is lossing unsustainble every day. Ukraine is of surely reclaim their lost territory in 2 weeks time. Just be pateint fellow patriots, soon Ukraine will sweep across the landscape and devour the russian bear and all ukraineian lands will be free. In the mean time they just need some more billions of aids and western weaponry, to reclaim their territory. Slavy Ukrainy!

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    just 2 more weeks fellow patriot, ukraine is coming for Russia! Just need to wear down Russia troops in the meat grinder for 13 more days! Russia will fall, guarantee or your moeny back!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >3rd year of fighting 2nd army of the world
      >tries to meme about 2 more weeks
      you're a fricking clown and unfunny one at that

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ukraine loses 1/6th of their territory? seems good. I wonder how you'd cope if China invaded the US and seized the entire west coast and held it for years.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Ukraine never LARPed as a world power.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Moot point.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Russia being unable to conquer a former client state on their border doesn't make them look pathetic at all

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Are we arguing whether or not Russia is pathetic or whether or not it's going to win in the end? Those are two different discussions

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He's going to go on a schizo tangent

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine was already conquered by the gay disco.

                Loses? I wasn't aware that Ukraine had surrendered.
                >thirdie fantasy
                I'd cope by not being a dysgenic, 60-IQ street-shitting shitskin from a nation barely above the lowest of apes.

                Yes, that's why I said it's only 2 more weeks before Ukraine pushes back. Have faith fellow patriot.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Loses? I wasn't aware that Ukraine had surrendered.
          >thirdie fantasy
          I'd cope by not being a dysgenic, 60-IQ street-shitting shitskin from a nation barely above the lowest of apes.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          China couldn’t even invade Vietnam properly in 1979, which was simultaneously fighting a war with Cambodia.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >country that couldn’t conquer the Republic of China

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >if Russia's performance in its invasion of its much smaller and poorer neighbor that it shares a huge land border with were actually China's performance in an invasion of a military superpower separated from it by an entire ocean, it would be impressive
          Holy frick, this is some truly legendary copium.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It would be damn impressive since China would have to pull off a trans-continental amphibious operation
          Pozziya can't even slink more than a hundred kilometers past it's own border

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, Russia is lossing unsustainble every day. Ukraine is of surely reclaim their lost territory in 2 weeks time. Just be pateint fellow patriots, soon Ukraine will sweep across the landscape and devour the russian bear and all ukraineian lands will be free. In the mean time they just need some more billions of aids and western weaponry, to reclaim their territory. Slavy Ukrainy!

      unfunny ass clown

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years, doesn't matter. Time is on Ukraine's side and western aid is assured for the rest of the decade. Seethe more about it.

      [...]

      LOL. LMAO, even.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >western aid to infinity
        Sorry anon, but aid doesn't carry a rifle, occupy territory, repair machinery, perform surgery, run equipment, or pilot vehicles

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Good point, EU should send men into Ukraine as well.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Norks being sent raises and interesting point on just who goes to Ukraine, the internationals are doing fairly well bulking up a few places for the last couple of months. But if the FFL turned up one day I really wouldn't be surprised at all

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Hebrew hands typed this post

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Hebrew hands would want them sent to fight for Israel, my brown friend

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    clearly or russia wouldn't still be advancing.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Four ficking bradleys?! In a single day?! They only gave them 186 in the first batch.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That caught my eye too. At least 3 were only damaged.
      I wonder if it's those night vision drones, or if the fighting is just really intense.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      New one from yesterday. Ukraine didn't lose any Bradleys, which is nice I guess. The US definitely needs to be sending them more regularly though if they don't want them to run out

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        So they are still making those tanks with sheds, why?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Weapons are damaged if they aren't hangar queens, who could've thought

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        are damaged if they aren't hangar queens, who could've thought
        If Ukraine lost 4 Bradleys everyday they'd run out in 2 months

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Which only means that more should be sent. This isn't a thing to put in your gun collection, you use it.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        are damaged if they aren't hangar queens, who could've thought
        If Ukraine lost 4 Bradleys everyday they'd run out in 2 months

        Damaged isn't the same as Destroyed though, if you can get them back it'll be some bodge up time for the vehicle, maybe scrapped and parted out but that's not the main thing.
        Main thing is the guys in a Brad might have a bad day, they don't have their last and worst day like in a BMP-2 that gets damaged. So they get a bit of time out, patched up and can go back out there again in another vehicle, wiser, bit more cautious and experienced at the job.
        Very important to keep that kind of trained personnel in service

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I guess they're really pissed about those su-27s huh
    I've noticed you see a lot less MT-LBs and BTRs have virtually disappeared once again

    I wonder what happened

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously not. Luckily for Russia and these threads those numbers are ABSURDLY inflated.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >those numbers are ABSURDLY inflated
      All of those losses are visually confirmed you dumb fricking Black person. Might as well call Oryx fake.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      when russia is resorting to T-55s, motorbikes, and golf carts?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Anon those ARE the confirmed kills.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Russia will still have thousands of MBTs and BMPs in her stockpiles
    Sure, sure...

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The 2022 representatives election saved russia
    and then Mike Johnson saved russia

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Remember when Netherlands were supposed to cancel F-16 program to Ukraine because right winger got elected?

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Comm equipment
    Xaxaxa The piggies are wasting their ammo. Nobody ever answer us on the radio so it does not matter if it gets blown up.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You'd be surprised by how many right wingers don't give a shit about russia or actively hate it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      All euro right wing parties are on russia's payroll

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >having allies is now a bad thing
    Someone notify Zelenski quick!

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You would be right before 2022, but by now being pro-Russia is a political suicide unless you are someone like Viktor Orban who had a decade to take control of his country's media and a population of boomers nostalgic for the Soviet times

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >being pro-Russia
      You don't have to be pro-Russia to tell Ukraine to frick off. Being pro-isolationism is enough

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >pro-isolationism
        So pro-Russia.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Well, yes, but your electorate does not need to hear that part

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Pro-isolationists are most moronic people on earth.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >The pro-isolationist said on the instant world wide communications platform.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >pro-isolationism
        It's too late, the American economy IS the global economy.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That's based on the valuation of the dollar. Should Triump destroy the dollars commodity purchasing power via pro Russian isolationism and wrecking NATO teh dollar will loose a great deal of its value. If the dollar halves relative to commodity prices so does the US economy. US voters are playing with fire courting Trump. I don't think Trump is quite as stupid as his quanon tier support base and will use his office for petty vindictive crap against perceived domestic rivals and in fact do very little else.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Claps will vote for an "isolationist" that's still a globalist but says they are isolationist and cheer.
            The average voter is fricking moronic and doesn't comprehend that the US MIC is an investment that is constantly paying dividends with all the nations that trade US protection for allowing US corporations resource extraction rights.
            These companies pay tax in the US with money they pulled out of other nations.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >corporations
              >pay tax
              mhm

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They do pay between 3% and 7% so when it's on billions it adds up even if they are ment to be paying 21%.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Being pro isolationism is really really moronic. have a nice day.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >unless you are someone like Viktor Orban
      https://ground.news/article/hungarys-orban-longtime-critic-of-ukraine-aid-arrives-in-kyiv-for-talks-with-zelensky_afba30
      it's so over zisters, it's so over...

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If there's one thing we've learned in the last eight years is that the man who claimed he could murder someone in Times Square and still get votes was exactly right. Americans really went all out with personality cults when they got to them, didn't they?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Americans really went all out with personality cults when they got to them, didn't they?
        Americans realized the entire political system is a clown show so they elected the biggest clown around to burn it to the ground.
        Seems to be working just fine. Elites are pissing themselves.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Elites
          You mean like the New York billionaire they've declared a man of the people?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I’ve never witnessed kvetching at a level even close to what we’ve seen since orangeBlack person ran in 2016. You seem to be flustered, Samuel.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Why are people mad at a guy that wants to make Ukraine surrender to Russian subhumans?
              have a nice day.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Americans are generally not smart enough to act upon this level of meta agency.
          t. John Whopper Jr.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >to burn it to the ground
          based lawless Far West enjoyer
          >CANYON DIABLO, ARIZONA
          >Nowhere in the Southwest was there a more violent place than the railroad town of Canyon Diablo, giving it the top spot on our list of the meanest Wild West towns. The settlement was born when workers laying tracks for a railroad came to the edge of the canyon, with no way to cross over until a bridge was built. Constructing the bridge took ten years, during which time the town that came into being took its name from the canyon. It was as despicable a place to live as there was in the West. With the closest U.S. marshal 100 miles away, Canyon Diablo quickly attracted drifters, gamblers, and outlaws. Fourteen saloons, ten gambling parlors, four brothels, two dance halls, a couple of cafes, a grocery, and a dry good store did business 24 hours a day. The buildings faced each other across the aptly-named Hell Street, the town's single rocky road just off the railroad right-of-way.
          >They Shot the Sheriff.
          >Fights and gun duels were frequent among the town's 2,000 residents, filling dozens of graves at the town's cemetery. Bandits regularly held up the stage that ran between Flagstaff and Canyon Diablo. When mounting violence persuaded the townspeople to hire a police officer, the first one put on his badge at three o'clock in the afternoon and was dead by eight o'clock that evening. Five more who tried it lasted a month or less before being slain. But what the law couldn't do, the completion of the bridge accomplished. The town died, and according to Western lore, completely disappeared by 1899 when its last resident, a trading post owner named Herman Wolfe, died peacefully.
          Burn it to the ground, yeah. Hope you can live off cinders.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia
    >5 times the population of Ukraine
    >10 times more (shitty) equipment to throw than Ukraine
    Yes, it will be a bloodbath and it will cripple Russia for a decade but Russia will win in the long run and that's the only thing that matter in Russian history.
    And no, they won't revolt because Russians are slaves.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      ukraine's using wester equipment, do over your math cumchugger.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >wester equipment
        useless without shells

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        They need X10 artillery shells and 5x people.
        A thousand Bradleys without people to operate them means nothing.
        I unironically think that Ukraine+ Poland going all in could end the war in less than a year..

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          russia is sucking off kim to get some old ass shells, doesn't seem like they have any kind of advantage here. and judging by the losses of personnel ukraine will do just fine with x5 less people.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >10 times more (shitty) equipment to throw than Ukraine
      The difference is way more than 10x actually

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >5 times the population of Ukraine
      More like 3.5 times, and that is if you trust russian census numbers LMAO. Meanwhile, average casualty ratio is 5-10:1 in Ukraine's favour, with the absolute worst times for the Ukrainians still resulting in a 3:1 ratio in their favour.

      >but Russia will win in the long run
      At current casualty ratios Russias entire male population will be genocided into oblivion by the Ukrainians in the long run.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >More like 3.5 times
        Ukraine now has 28-30 million people (living in a territory controlled by Kyiv), Russia has ~148 million people (Russia proper + occupied Crimea, Donbas and Pryazovia). And the Ukrainian population is slightly older than the Russian, which means that Ukraine has fewer people to mobilize, it's ~4.9 million men (according to texty.org.ua calculations) against Russia's ~30 million men. And Russia can actually mobilize up to 15 million men without harming its economy, which is entirely based on resource extraction, while for Ukraine, mobilizing even 500 thousand additional men will become a huge burden on the economy.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Without harming it's economy
          >Dozens of depots and refineries on fire every day
          >Gazprom posted first net losses ever
          >Ruble absolutely valueless, now forced to trade in Chinese Yuan
          >Europe slowly lessening its dependence on Russian oil and gas
          >Complete and absolute brain drain (the wealthy are fleeing the country)
          >No effect on the economy

          Yeah, you're moronic

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Russia can actually mobilize up to 15 million men without harming its economy
          >source: my schizophrenic delusions

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He's technically right, sure, russian "civilian"/"private" economy would go to shit a bit, but most wealth in russia isn't generated through manufacturing or high-tech export or something like this. Most wealth is generated by a few resource extraction companies. Nobody will mobile gays who work in oil and natural gas industries. Everyone else can go frick themselves.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Gas industry loses money

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                This is a recent development, yes, but it's mostly because Gazprom wasn't operated as a normal company, but a political weapon and a personal fiefdom for many involved. Basically all investment projects were overblown to steal money, even basic crap sold to Gazprom is often 300x the price and shit. As the joke goes "a good career is becoming at least a cleaning lady at Gazprom" or something like that. It still brings in a ton of foreign currency revenues.
                Outside of that oil was always way more of a money maker in russia. And oil still flows pretty wild, unlike natural gas which did got hit hard by sanctions.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah maybe in tonnage, but the margins are shit now that the indians and chinese have them bent over a barrel

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >but the margins are shit now
                It seems that they are not shit enough

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                How? Gazprom is losing money and russian carbon emissions have gone through the floor. Please explain how russia, an petrol extraction based econonmy greened the frick up in 2 years.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                If the margins were shit enough, russian finances would already be dead, not just dying

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Not if theyre burning their foreign reserves like its going out of style to prop up the whole thing

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >And Russia can actually mobilize up to 15 million men without harming its economy
          Russia currently has shortages of 2 million working men. Meanwhile they have to pay x4 times higher premiums to get anyone into military

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia currently has shortages of 2 million working men.
            This is a matter of concern for the Russian private sector, rather than the Russian economy as a whole. Putin and his associates are aware that approximately 100 million individuals residing in Russia are economically unproductive. These people impose a huge burden on the economy due to their low levels of productivity and their reliance on resource extraction profits. Consequently, the optimal utilization of these individuals is through their deployment in military conflicts, thereby avoiding the necessity of allocating resources to support them in the future, in the 2040s-2060s.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever read.
              Fricking pseud.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever read.
                >Fricking pseud.
                Well, I hold a degree in Business Informatics and have spent over a decade studying Russia's economy and demographics. Consequently, I believe I have a reasonable understanding of the subject matter.
                And I have many reasons to believe you might not be as invested in this as I am.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >and other bullshit

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He's right. Back in mid-2000s the open secret from the bureaucrats was something to the tune of "our people are useless, they don't generate wealth, but need money spent on them for education, healthcare, welfare, etc, it would be way better if we had less people - we'd be able to use the same amount of oil and gas money on less freeloaders". After 2014-2019, when the old oil & gas export growth model stopped working, this changed a bit into a "our people are the new oil", as in "we'll extract wealth from people via taxes, debts, etc", with the regime creating more and more systems to strip people of their money. But still, the original idea still works: nobody gives a shit about local labor force, they were importing migrants in massive numbers since the late early 2000s, and the local "private economy" (retail, banking, services, etc) can go frick itself, because it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, since most money is being brought in through oil and gas export.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >This is a matter of concern for the Russian private sector, rather than the Russian economy as a whole
              It is a problem for the economy as whole you moron. How the frick else do you think it's supposed to grow when it's cut from innovation?
              >approximately 100 million individuals residing in Russia are economically unproductive.
              yeah because they are fricking babushkas, kids, housewives, cripples and otherwise. It doesn't mean you can just translate them into cannon fodder 1 to 1 and it doesn't mean productive part doesn't have shortages.
              Holy frick you really are a pseud.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >approximately 100 million individuals residing in Russia are economically unproductive.
              I imagine the other 40 million Russians includes most of the men fit for military service.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              how fricking moronic are you? do you think 150 million people are supplied with oil and gas? you realize that for every large economy in the world most of the things consumed, from food to toilet paper are still made domestically?
              if you want to move all those people into the military whos gonna manufacture all the things everyone needs on a daily basis just to survive. are you gonna import EVERYTHING the population needs for consumption from china?
              youre either a troll or legally moronic

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The cash pump into Russia society is going to be like feeding someone 4-5 mars bars all at once
            They're going to go fricking wild on a rush for a time, but eventually when they come down they're going to find normal food is quite expensive and unless you're on that 4x normal wages then you're going to have a real problem buying against inflation. So all those old c**ts on your pension, they're going to need 4-5x their regular cheque to 'maybe' get by and in true 3rd world meme fashion... money printer go brrrrrrrrrrrr
            The other problem is that you can't get a loan
            Outside investment via stockmarket is stonked and that would mean borrowing into the 16-20% rates that the local banks will lend you, maybe, but just to make it get worse. Because it always gets worse, Russia is raising taxes on businesses in Russia to fund all this stuff, so they're going to stagnate at best and go backwards in a lot of cases because the money they would use to hire people at inflated wages is going to Putin.

            At some point there will be a hyperinflation bite come into effect, its not as fast as everyone would like but they're on a trajectory for it eventually going for their 'war economy' when everything looks grand after eating 5 mars bars, the rush is over and sooner or later that real bill comes due

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          nta but
          >Ukraine now has 28-30 million people
          No one knows how many people lives in Ukraine, ESPECIALLY accounting for controlled/uncontrolled territory. Last census was in something like 2001, and whole country been through so much shitshow since then with so little oversight on input/output data that we can tell only a very general approximations, like it's somewhat closer to Poland in size. And migration to and from occupied territories since 2014 is just a mystery completely, there's exactly zero ways to tell the real demographics there, how many stayed, how many left, how many borned, how many died none of that is known, and whoever tries to sell you some "concrete" data on that region of the world is bullshiting you.

          >Russia has ~148 million people
          It doesn't. Russia been falsifying data since... well it's hard to tell and that's also part of the problem. Apparently it comes from local level municipalities sending false reports to the higherups rather than centralized effort to put a better picture. The way we can be sure it's falsified but can't tell how is, for example, that on paper some regions of russia have something like 95%+ of voter age population, which means they have less than 5% 0-18 year olds which is either completely fake or really-really fricking sad.

          >And Russia can actually mobilize up to 15 million men without harming its economy
          This is completely wrong. As of now, July 3 2024, Russia can mobilize exactly ZERO men without significantly harming their economy EVEN MORE. That is based on the fact that russia currently has unnaturally low unemployment rates of like 1-2% (basically leaving only all frail, moronic and other undesirables) and their MIC, by their own reports, have hundreds of thousands deficit in workforce (last number I heard was specifically 500k, but that sounds way too insane even for me).

          It's ogre

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Meanwhile, average casualty ratio is 5-10:1 in Ukraine's favour
        My sources in Ukraine (including the guys and girls who are fighting right now) say it's actually lower than that, 2-2.5:1 in terms of KIA, and most of them were furious when Zelensky said there were only 31k Ukrainian soldiers killed, when in fact there were ~45k by then.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >2-2.5:1 in terms of KIA
          It depends on the location and time, sometimes it's even higher than 10:1, sometimes it goes down to 3:1 or so, which is considered very bad locally btw.

          >most of them were furious when Zelensky said there were only 31k Ukrainian soldiers killed, when in fact there were ~45k by then.
          More like 40k back then, yeah, but Zelensky was technically correct, the KIA was at 31k, the issue was that about 9-10k more were MIA, which with a high degree of probably means they are KIA, but body is missing, alternatively they are got captured by russians, which is often a death sentence, since they literally torture them to death.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          This number is due to them having information on guys who make it off the battlefield but then succumb to their wounds, vs wounded russians who simultaneously are unknowns (and thus not factored into confirmed kills) and have far worse medevac/casevac and general medical care on average. Ukraine's WIA survival rate is something like 85% which is pretty strong (USA by comparison is a bit over 90% and that's with hilarious over-investment in medical logistics). Meanwhile Russian WIA survival is estimated at around 50%, maybe 60% if you're optimistic. The USA was at about 50% in the WW2 era, and in the 60s in Vietnam.

          Combining these factors, my personal estimate is about a 3.5:1 KIA ratio. If you factor in survivors who are likely disabled and can't get back to the front, it's probably closer to 4:1 (a lot of disabilities can be avoided with faster medevac and more surgeons on hand)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Russian imports shitskins by the million, both in general sense and specifically to fight on the frontline. Ukies do not, so it's not so good.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >cripple Russia for a decade
      Brother, they never demographically recovered from WW2. That was with their genuine economic boom through the 50's and 60's. You don't lose hundreds of thousands or millions in a shitty economy and come out fine.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Tanks, IFVs and Arty are the losses that really hurt, no one cares about boats, trucks or cars because the civilian population has a frickload and both sides are willing to seize them for the war effort.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    For Russia? Yes. For Ukraine? No

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Trump gets elected
    >tells Putin to accept a 2014 border peace treaty or face quintupled US aid.
    >tells Zelensky to accept said treaty or face a reduction to zero US aid
    This sounds about right for Trumps blowhard negotiation style.
    Either they make peace and Ukraine joins NATO, or they both reject the offer and fricking nothing change. EU/NATO aid will win the war for Ukraine in the long run anyway, unless Iran, Syria, and North Korea send some several hundred thousand men to die as cannon fodder for Monke

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >trump gets told to frick off
      >war continues with european effort
      >now trump looks like a b***h that's sitting out a war

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >war continues with european effort
        France, the country that has been the most outspoken so far when it comes to aiding Ukraine against Russia, is just about to experience a change in leadership that we will see a far right candidate, notoriously close to Putin and financed by Russia, become president
        Europe will falter

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >France, the country that has been the most outspoken so far when it comes to aiding Ukraine against Russia

          This isn't even remotely close to the truth you lying shill.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Why didn't that happen in Netherlands, Italy and Serbia?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >French far-right leader Bardella vows Ukraine will not be absorbed by 'Russian imperialism'
          Oh nonononono... AHAHAHAHAHA

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Sure. Ukrainian Rump state in the areas that were offered to Poles since they don't want them.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The same Russians that turned all of France's sub-saharan former colonies into a collective chimp-out, fricked up their imports and then managed to trigger a Black person stampede north into Europe from everyone trying to not get murdered?
          Yeah, those Russian's aren't nearly as popular as they might be if they hadn't taken a shit in France's pet African countries. You don't steal someone else's lunch and wonder why there's dozens of heavy French artillery systems and support starting to roll into Ukraine for 'just reasons because', there's some very real reasons that France will be quite happy to help kill a lot of vatniks even if it means having to do it themselves.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >notoriously close to Puti
          read more than tabloids headlines

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao sure /misc/ RN isn't used as a scarecrow to mush leftists into mondialisation and neocon politics since... 2002...

          Shill moar.

          If we assume them being elected ( they won't) taking an anti Ukraine stance is political suicide at best, secret service and MIC literally suicidingcyou at worst..

          See my point

          [...]
          Oh yeah, I totally see Trumpet keeping his engagements over putin when he is elected at the top of the most MIC controlled economy of the world and in a position of winning an already profitable war against an ex peer country he can otherwise economically collapse and buy on the cheap... Lol
          Oh and it's not like Trump wanted the EU and rest of NATO to get on the 2% gdp defense budget prior to the war lol

          Oh and what happened to the last president that wanted to circumvent the MIC during a ( way less) profitable war?
          Jfk or something?

          Oh
          Yeah

          it also applies to France... When you're fighting inflation with EADS/Thalès/siemens and Vectan exportations you aren't very fondvof peaceniks...
          Even moreso when your energy depends from a ressource you are competing with Russia to obtain ( uranium and gas)

          Enjoy your doom schizo rightoid shill 🙂

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Most informed Amerimutt.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The upcoming election isn't for president, dummy

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >RN will save russia
          you do know that the old guard in RN are the children of SS and Vichy men?they have no love for the russian wannebee commy slav shits

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >in other news
          >far-right candidates once elected drop Putin like a used condom

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >trump gets told to frick off
      >war continues with european effort
      >now trump looks like a b***h that's sitting out a war

      Trump is kind of a wild card and something of a narcissist.
      It would be immensely funny if Russians assumed he's a patsy they could dictate terms to, only for him to pull a Shayrat.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia dictates terms to Trump publically
        >"OH REALLY NOW" *deletes Russias Pacific Naval HQ/Garrisons*

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          it would literally just take one advisor telling him 'you'll look like a weak loser if you do peace' and he'd suddenly be talking about nuclear first strike options.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Russias Pacific Naval HQ/Garrisons
          They have no real garrisons, the main Pacific unit was the 155th and it has been destroyed and rebuilt half a dozen times in two years. The Pacific HQ is a bunch of empty buildings on the NK border that has a handful of custodial staff.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >tells Putin to accept a 2014 border peace treaty or face quintupled US aid.
      based if true. I'll fly to the US and kneel in front of the white house if this happens

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >tells Putin to accept a 2014 border peace treaty or face quintupled US aid.
      >tells Zelensky to accept said treaty or face a reduction to zero US aid
      >none of them agrees
      so his next move is?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That's step one to any negotiation. Demand absurd concessions, threaten to walk away, and then say "well, I might be willing to . . ." and then the real negotiation happens.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Did you fail basic logic?

        IF Putin does NOT accept the peace treaty THEN US Aid x5

        Zelensky's agreement is contingent on the peace treaty being offered. If it's not, he doesn't matter. The only relevant term is Putin's reaction.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          See

          Ukraine can trade land for peace today the problem is they did that in 2014 and look what happened 8 years later.
          Any deal with Russia is worthless, the only way Ukraine still exists as a nation 30 years from now is a decisive Russian defeat.

          Ukraine would be moronic to count on Russia honoring any deal, so long as EU aid kept flowing they would be better off continuing the fight than giving Russia a smaller area to invade next time.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine would be moronic to count on Russia honoring any deal
            What choice would it have if Trump stops sending aid?
            >so long as EU aid kept flowing
            Until it doesn't. Le Pen, AfD+BSW, Farage and other populists on the right and left in Europe are very sympathetic to Putin.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              The Poles are buying half of the wests production capability right now and I can't see them getting sick of helping kill Russians.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >What choice would it have if Trump stops sending aid?
              He literally couldnt, itd take a congressional act to pull us from nato which now has an aid requirement

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Are you moronic?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, Putin accepts but does nothing (kind of reasonably) claiming that Zelensky has to also accept it first, and Zelensky, seeing how Putin doesn't call back troops, won't accept it until then. What's next? Increasing aid because Putin didn't accept what is essentially unconditional capitulation? Or cutting it because Zelensky has no option of just leaving frontline empty when it's full of russians?

          All this negotiations fantasy is such a uyterly moronic talking point I'm surprised people can even seriously mention it.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >tells Putin to accept a 2014 border peace treaty or face quintupled US aid.
          >tells Zelensky to accept said treaty or face a reduction to zero US aid
          >none of them agrees
          so his next move is?

          >US aid
          Putin has nothing to fear there.
          >Send more F16
          Takes a year+ to train pilots at which point both sides have depleted their manpower too much for anything to change
          >Send more artillery shells
          Not possible without touching reserves besides what's currently already being produced and sent.
          >Send more Bradleys
          >Send more Abrams
          Good for covering losses it already sustained but would need a year to train new divisions to use more of these.

          Putin has nothing to fear in regards to any increased US aid because Ukraine is currently manpower constrained and those wouldn't translate into the ability to get back initiative, just help with defending more. At which point he is not exactly compelled to accept a peace treaty other than keeping what he already has if the only threat is that taking more territory will get harder.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That isn't true, though? Even if ukraine suddenly stopped recruiting new soldiers, US aid would still have a massive effect. He has to end the war eventually, or he dies himself.

            Especially since all his '''allies''' have been fricking him up the ass. I wonder what he's paying the norks for those engineers.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >He has to end the war eventually, or he dies himself.
              Russia is currently still going on the offensive. Before they end the war they will choose to sit on the defensive lines.

              Bruh, the biggest issue for AFU are weapons and supplies, not manpower. What's the point of manpower, if they don't have weapons and kit? That was the biggest butthurt of the previous ukie chief of the general staff ass: offensive with what? mobilize where? AFU is starved for weapons and with US limits of where it's okay to strike. This is by design, since murrican political class are morons and they don't want russia to lose too hard.

              That's complete bullshit. They are even recruiting convicts now.

              >Takes a year+ to train pilots
              well good thing then they are already about a year into pipeline
              >without touching reserves besides what's currently already being produced
              It's not like production can grow and new suppliers can join, right?
              >Bradleys
              >Abrams
              >would need a year to train
              you could've just started this post from your brain damage affliction

              >well good thing then they are already about a year into pipeline
              The ones on the jets currently sent. More jets = more pilots needed.

              need a year to train
              Never said that moron. I said they would need new units to utilize those on the offensive.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >They are even recruiting convicts now.
                Oh yeah, the great army of two thousand convicts. You do realize that it's just a political thing, so that people don't bug the government about "hurr-durr russians are using convicts, why aren't we using convicts"?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Russia is currently still going on the offensive. Before they end the war they will choose to sit on the defensive lines.
                Germany did that too, only the time between their last big offensive and unconditional surrender was 7 weeks.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They Kaiserschlacht ended in July. The armistice came in November after the hundred day offensive, twice as much as 7 weeks.
                I'm not sure if you can even call it unconditional surrender.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not sure if you can even call it unconditional surrender.
                >The Germans were handed the list of Allied demands and given 72 hours to agree. The German delegation discussed the Allied terms not with Foch, but with other French and Allied officers. The Armistice amounted to substantial German demilitarization, with few promises made by the Allies in return.
                >There were very few negotiations. The Germans were able to correct a few impossible demands (for example, the decommissioning of more submarines than their fleet possessed), extend the schedule for the withdrawal and register their formal protest at the harshness of Allied terms. But they were in no position to refuse to sign.
                >The cabinet had earlier received a message from Paul von Hindenburg, head of the German High Command, requesting that the armistice be signed even if the Allied conditions could not be improved on.
                Kek

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                One of the conditions was that Germany kept occupying Russia.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't:
                >Twelve - All German troops at present in the territories which before belonged to Austria-Hungary, Rumania, Turkey, shall withdraw immediately within the frontiers of Germany as they existed on August First, Nineteen Fourteen. All German troops at present in the territories which before the war belonged to Russia shall likewise withdraw within the frontiers of Germany, defined as above, as soon as the Allies, taking into account the internal situation of these territories, shall decide that the time for this has come.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >as soon as the Allies, taking into account the internal situation of these territories, shall decide that the time for this has come.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >You will do what we say, when we say it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Compare it to the terms of the 1945 unconditional surrender
                >We the undersigned, acting by authority of the German High Command, hereby surrender unconditionally to the Supreme Commander, Allied Expeditionary Force and simultaneously to the Supreme High Command of the Red Army all forces on land, sea, and in the air who are at this date under German control.
                >The German High Command will at once issue orders to all German military, naval and air authorities and to all forces under German control to cease active operations at 2301 hours Central European time on 8th May 1945, to remain in the positions occupied at that time and to disarm completely, handing over their weapons and equipment to the local allied commanders or officers designated by Representatives of the Allied Supreme Commands. No ship, vessel, or aircraft is to be scuttled, or any damage done to their hull, machinery or equipment, and also to machines of all kinds, armament, apparatus, and all the technical means of prosecution of war in general.
                >The German High Command will at once issue to the appropriate commanders, and ensure the carrying out of any further orders issued by the Supreme Commander, Allied Expeditionary Force and by the Supreme High Command of the Red Army.
                >This act of military surrender is without prejudice to, and will be superseded by any general instrument of surrender imposed by, or on behalf of the United Nations and applicable to Germany and the German armed forces as a whole.
                >In the event of the German High Command or any of the forces under their control failing to act in accordance with this Act of Surrender, the Supreme Commander, Allied Expeditionary Force and the Supreme High Command of the Red Army will take such punitive or other action as they deem appropriate.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >The first surrdender isn't as bad because Germoids were humiliated much worse later
                Anon, the two are functionally the same.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                One involved laying down arms, the other just withdrawing and waiting until peace negotiations were done.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >peace negotiations
                There was no negotiation. They were handed terms dictated by their enemies.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                They could have said no. Hence why the fleet was scuttled in anticipation of renewed combat.
                And there were a lot negotiations between the victors.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >They could have said no.
                They couldn't, and that's the point. They had no other choice, just the illusion of one. Even if they had wanted to restart the war, they were in no position to do so.
                >And there were a lot negotiations between the victors.
                Yes, notably not including Germany, who functionally surrendered unconditionally.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I meant this.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spring_Awakening

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's really more like WW1 than WW2.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >That's complete bullshit. They are even recruiting convicts now.
                Black, the zelensky literally whines that, and I quite, "Ukraine has 14 brigades not equipped with weapons, due to the slowness of its delivery"

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Bruh, the biggest issue for AFU are weapons and supplies, not manpower. What's the point of manpower, if they don't have weapons and kit? That was the biggest butthurt of the previous ukie chief of the general staff ass: offensive with what? mobilize where? AFU is starved for weapons and with US limits of where it's okay to strike. This is by design, since murrican political class are morons and they don't want russia to lose too hard.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Bruh, the biggest issue for AFU are weapons and supplies, not manpower.
              It's both, moron. Even when you're in a defensive position, you still need BOTH weapons AND manpower. What's the point of having 5,000 Bradleys or 1,000 Abrams if there are no trained crews to ride them?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                There's literally not enough of _everything_ in AFU: AA systems, ammo for AA, tanks, IFVs, transport, artillery systems and ammo for it, etc, etc, etc. Don't get me started on aviation (F-16 will be there... although I'm not sure in which century). Even basic stuff like thermals and NVGs are an issue.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Takes a year+ to train pilots
            well good thing then they are already about a year into pipeline
            >without touching reserves besides what's currently already being produced
            It's not like production can grow and new suppliers can join, right?
            >Bradleys
            >Abrams
            >would need a year to train
            you could've just started this post from your brain damage affliction

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >well good thing then they are already about a year into pipeline
              The training is bottlenecked to shit. Like 8 pilots there and 6 or 4 there.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine is currently manpower constrained
            You say that as if this problem could somehow be solved in the future. All the people who wanted to fight are already fighting (and some of them have been killed, wounded, captured, deserted when they realised things weren't as good as they thought, etc).
            The only way for Ukraine to solve this manpower shortage is for NATO to put boots on the ground, but that's not going to happen any time soon because it might actually trigger WWIII or a nuclear response, and nobody wants that.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >All the people who wanted to fight are already fighting
              Who want to fight, yeah. And who doesn't is actively running.
              But most people are neither of two, most people are just reluctant. There's still quite a lot of people who will fight when given a rifle but won't actively seek unnecessary risk. That's why mobilization exists.
              Ukraine been stalling revision of mobilization laws for a long time because it's an unpopular thing and no politician wants to pass something unpopular. But it gone through a while ago and since then mobilization is steady and covers shortages decently well.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >But most people are neither of two, most people are just reluctant. There's still quite a lot of people who will fight when given a rifle but won't actively seek unnecessary risk.
                ¿How come Russia doesn't have a manpower shortage then? 30k men volunteer in Russia every month, and that's not counting all the mercenaries from the Global South. And they are paid only $2k to $4k a month, while Ukraine pays $5k or so, yet it has no volunteers anymore.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >¿?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >volunteer
                they're not volunteering, also
                >¿
                that's a new one, what keyboard you use fren? thought that was a spanish only thing

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >How come Russia doesn't have a manpower shortage then?
                Just out of curiosity, do you have any idea how supply and demand mechanics work?

                https://i.imgur.com/2TXn2mx.jpeg

                >And Russia can actually mobilize up to 15 million men without harming its economy
                Russia currently has shortages of 2 million working men. Meanwhile they have to pay x4 times higher premiums to get anyone into military

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The average Ukrainian has a life worth living, the average Russian doesn't.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >¿
                >Global South
                yeah

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >How come Russia doesn't have a manpower shortage then?
                Two points.
                First is money:
                1. the monthly salary of a soldier is almost a years worth of wages of generic poorgay;
                2. the signup bonus in some regions has already surpassed $20,000 (yes, twenty thousands dollars), which equals to a multi-year income of a poorgay;
                3. compensations for being wounded and killed are also jacked up to insane levels, by standard of a russian poorgay;
                Second one if lack of information:
                1. Most don't understand the hell they're getting sent to;
                2. Most thing it's a six month contract, not knowing that stop-loss is in effect and the contracts are effectively indefinite;
                3. Many are just straight up lied to kek, i.e. promising them positions in the rear and such;

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine pays $5k or so
                Soldiers in ukraine don't get anywhere near this amount of money, even with all of the bonuses and such. They are paid less than in russia. Which is understandable, since ukraine isn't an oil and gas exporting country.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Ukraine been stalling revision of mobilization laws for a long time because it's an unpopular thing
                Not really, it got finally passed once there was acknowledgment that aid will actually happen from the US. Before the open secret was "mobilize people to use what?".

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                it was never about
                >mobilize people to use what?
                it was
                >trenches are getting empty already
                and
                soldiers need rotation yesterday
                If anything, without US aid need to pass that law would've been even greater as well as make it much harsher.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >It dosen't matter!
            Squeals pigrussian as he bleeds to death.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Wake me the frick up when Ukraine gathers enough forces to repeat the good times like the Kupiansk offensive.

              In reality that 5x aid (which will likely just be about the same as the general trend in aid is right now) will begin with a cease in aid right after Trump gets inaugurated until he decides the talks are done, and then will materialize in 2026 after both sides can only sit on their defensive lines, if ever.

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    First one who sold heavy weapon systems to Ukraine btw
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Are these kinds of losses moderate
    No they are pretty heavy
    >sustainable?
    Considering they only need to sustain them until USA elections, yes.

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Oh yeah, I totally see Trumpet keeping his engagements over putin when he is elected at the top of the most MIC controlled economy of the world and in a position of winning an already profitable war against an ex peer country he can otherwise economically collapse and buy on the cheap... Lol
    Oh and it's not like Trump wanted the EU and rest of NATO to get on the 2% gdp defense budget prior to the war lol

    Oh and what happened to the last president that wanted to circumvent the MIC during a ( way less) profitable war?
    Jfk or something?

    Oh
    Yeah

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Drumpf will save us!
    Nuclear superpower, everyone.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Got to be a heck of a bet, I wouldn't exactly bet my country on it!
      Wonder what the odds are?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That russia hasnt maintained its nukes? High odds

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah the dollars aren't paying the numbers their mouth is saying
          Some of it will bound to work... a lot of it? Not so much

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Got to be a heck of a bet
        what else do they have to hope for honestly?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Putin died tomorrow, everyone goes back home. Russia would get fricked for the next ten but might managed to clamber its way up to 3rd world living conditions.
          If it continues into 2025 with Putin still alive, that gets a lot harder to guess because there's going to be a lot less of everything

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >w-western election please save us aieeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Top kek the absolute state of the second military in the world

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Are these kinds of losses moderate and sustainable?
    No.Russia is loosing 1000 artillery pieces every 20 days and has been for months. At this rate Russia has no artillery by the end of the year, even allowing for scrapings and donations of several thousand.

    Russian losses* last 24 hours and totals, personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded.
    03.07.2024
    Tanks — 8123 (+16)
    Armored fighting vehicle — 15583 (+17)
    Artillery systems — 14712 (+57)
    MLRS — 1115 (+1)
    Anti-aircraft warfare — 876 (+2)
    Planes — 360
    Helicopters — 326
    UAV — 11668 (+27)
    Cruise missiles — 2336 (+1)
    Ships (boats) — 28
    Submarines — 1
    Trucks and fuel tankers — 19850 (+63)
    Special equipment — 2464 (+12)
    Military personnel — aprx. 546270 people (+1180)
    *Figures confirmed by OSINT counts of depletion at Russian weapons depots using satellite imagery

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Considering just how many arty systems are being destroyed i wonder if they are counting mortars

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Russian losses* last 24 hours and totals, personnel is Russians killed and does not include wounded.
      05.07.2024
      Tanks — 8142 (+10)
      Armored fighting vehicle — 15611 (+11)
      Artillery systems — 14831 (+54)
      MLRS — 1115
      Anti-aircraft warfare — 878
      Planes — 360
      Helicopters — 326
      UAV — 11751 (+57)
      Cruise missiles — 2342
      Ships (boats) — 28
      Submarines — 1
      Trucks and fuel tankers — 19977 (+54)
      Special equipment — 2473 (+5)
      Military personnel — aprx. 548580 people (+1110)
      *Figures confirmed by OSINT counts of depletion at Russian weapons depots using satellite imagery

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder how high the actual numbers are considering that not everything gets documented.
        russian arti is having a bad time with all these old ass d30's and nork shells being shit.

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What he does need though is popularity and with over 70% of the US saying 'Frick Russia', going against that means not popular
    He'll be even more flippityfloppity than the average politician and he's got the dementia going pretty hard when the script ends

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >The worst part is Trump is a wishy-washy homosexual, like he's always been, the second he faces real opposition to his pro-Putin stances he'll flip. He is quite literally not their savior.
    The election is November, Russia has no artillery left by year end anyway. Ukraine could easily fight on with grace on EU backing and has more and more weapons systems and factories coming online ranging from Armour factories to munitions factories to more heavy artillery to F16s. Russia is fricked.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The EU backing isn't insubstantial either, if the US decided to go take a flying frick into a burger coma, the EU can still buy weapons from the US and there's a number of long term contracts being established which are essentially committing permanent aid to Ukraine until this ends. Some aren't much, some are, but the long term means that these create factories, export markets and permanent support. Some bigger than other's but it adds up with 30 odd countries sending aid in with no strings attached, shits free

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The EU has massive arms manufacturers, in fact the EU states own half of the heavy munitions plants in the USA. The single greatest foreign investor in the USA is the EU.

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    no, but they are still holding

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Sitting still while you are disarmed is not as useful as you suppose. Static lines give every advantage to the side with the longer range more accurate artillery and better FPV drone deployment. That's Ukraine by a wide and increasing margin, more french and British supplied heavy artillery is going in right now as well..

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Loaf genocide continues.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Again how does Trump matter so much when Russia has no artillery by year end and the election is November? How exactly does Russia defeat Ukraine when Russia has no artillery and frick all tanks and Ukraine has EU backing, F16s and will continue to recieve weapons from places like Poland, the Baltics, Spain, sweden and Finland etc no matter what?? Just the places I've listed have bigger economies and better weapons manufacture than Russia. Throw in Germany, the UK and France as well. yeah Marjourie Taylor Green can humiliate American internationally again and undermine its reputation and credibility but that's not going to stop Russia from losing on the ground.

    Gabrielius Landsbergis is the new EU foreign minister, had relatives put in gulags by Russians

    "
    We started out with songs of the Forest Brothers – men and women who fought for Lithuania’s
    freedom against the Soviets in the 1940s and 50s. Tens of thousands were tortured and killed,
    hundreds of thousands exiled to Siberia and the GULAGs. Yet despite unspeakable oppression, their
    spirit kept the freedom flame alive during 50 years of the Soviet occupation and brought us to the
    restored Lithuania you all witness here today – proud, independent, free and at peace."

    EU support is there to stay. Trump can suck Europes sweaty balls and set the US up to be fricked over by China by ruining NATO but it won;t make a shit of difference to Russia losing and if Americans vote for him given his putin loving bullshit maybe they deserve to be abandoned to a war with China on their own. The population of Georgia certainly do for voting for Marjorie Taylor Green and no one in the world would ever defend people from that state knowing now what backstabbing scum they are. If the USA elects Trump on the basis of destroying NATO and fawning to Putin like MTG then the USA deserves what it fricking gets. A massive dollar collapse and mass poverty and no military allies and that needs to be said loud and clear .

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Gabrielius Landsbergis
      That's a made up name. What's his real name?

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    they've been sustaining them for 2,5 years so I'd say they are sustainable. You do not play the attrition game with Russia. If you're smart that is.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >they've been sustaining them for 2,5 years so I'd say they are sustainable. You do not play the attrition game with Russia. If you're smart that is.
      How did that work out in 1917 genius?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >. At this rate Russia has no artillery by the end of the year

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >You do not play the attrition game with Russia. If you're smart that is.

      lol
      lmao
      Russia only sustained the attrition during WWII thanks to the massive stockpiles of trucks, rail cars, locomotives, fuel and food from the US of A.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >sustained so far
      >therefore it will last forever
      see this doesn't work with my beer so i'm not so sure it'll work with tanks.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >You do not play the attrition game with Russia.
      I like how the Russians genuinely believe that WW2 was the only war they've ever fought.

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Trump help me, I'm advancing!
    Kek

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I don;t like animal cruelty or snakes.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >dying from asphyxia in seconds, or minutes before being eaten
        >cruelty
        This pic doesn't even scratch the cruelty of the real world.

        A very few ichneumonid species lay their eggs in the ground, but the vast majority inject eggs either directly into their host's body or onto its surface, and this may require penetration of substrate around the host, as in wood-boring host larvae that live deep inside of tree trunks, requiring the ichneumon to drill its ovipositor through several centimeters of solid wood (e.g., Megarhyssa species). After hatching, the ichneumonid larva consumes its still living host. The most common hosts are larvae or pupae of Lepidoptera, Coleoptera and Hymenoptera. Some species in the subfamily Pimplinae also parasitise spiders. Hyperparasitoids such as Mesochorinae oviposit inside the larvae of other ichneumonoids. The hosts of some species are agricultural pests, therefore ichneumons are sometimes valuable for biological pest control, but the hosts of most species are unknown; host information has been reviewed and summarized by various researchers, e.g. Aubert, Perkins. and Townes.

        Ichneumonids use both idiobiont and koinobiont strategies. Idiobionts paralyze their host and prevent it from moving or growing. Koinobionts allow their host to continue to grow and develop. In both strategies, the host typically dies after some weeks, after which the ichneumonid larva emerges and pupates.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          its pretty bad but bugs are like little biologic robots, they don't have enough neural capacity to really suffer. so its not so bad

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >shrikes

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >they don't have enough neural capacity to really suffer
            As a person that recovered from stroke I deny it. You still can suffer even after losing the basic cognitive abilities and being blind, as well as experience enormous amounts of pleasure while passing out from opioids.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Just switch the Kazakh flag with the nork one and it's perfect

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, what?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      "Tree" is the 9K33 Osa I think.
      I don't remember why.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That explains it, thanks anon.
        But the image of Russians blasting random trees was quite funny.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Better than bombing their own houses, at least.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That explains it, thanks anon.
        But the image of Russians blasting random trees was quite funny.

        Lmao nevermind it's actually literally a tree
        https://t.me/warriorofnorth/1285

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I wish they would for a month or so tbh just enough for him to find a new place to schizo out

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Crests BTFO. No recovery, war over XAXAXAXA!!!!

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    For comparison, Germany produces around 4 million cars per year.
    It is just a question of will on how much production they want to set up.
    500K+ Russian and 200K+ Ukrainian men reach military age every year.
    It is just a question of will on how many they conscript.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    Trump has publicly stated multiple times that Ukraine needs to trade land for peace. I have no idea where people get the idea he'll be a hawk towards Russia.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine can trade land for peace today the problem is they did that in 2014 and look what happened 8 years later.
      Any deal with Russia is worthless, the only way Ukraine still exists as a nation 30 years from now is a decisive Russian defeat.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        See [...]
        Ukraine would be moronic to count on Russia honoring any deal, so long as EU aid kept flowing they would be better off continuing the fight than giving Russia a smaller area to invade next time.

        Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      May I see the quote?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >That’s without even negotiating a deal. I could have negotiated. At worst, I could’ve made a deal to take over something, there are certain areas that are Russian-speaking areas, frankly, but you could’ve worked a deal.
        Sean Hannity interviewed Trump for Fox in 2023. You're welcome

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          So his worst case deal is trading land full of Russians for peace and you think that’s his majority stance is that?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, that's exactly what Putin asked for in his latest proposal. Seems like he's much closer to the Russian demands than the Ukrainian ones.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >2003
              Heavily outdated.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/lvZFsVK.png

              >2003
              Heavily outdated.

              Moscow is rightful Kievan clay, and Kiev is the natural and historic ruler of the brotherly peoples of the Rus.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >46,4%
              >Russian language dominates
              >dominates
              OK. So remaining 53,6% spoke whta language. Because you know, 53 is more then 46.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm curious what conclusions you draw from this graph because I'm fairly sure it's suggesting something you did not actually intend

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              1. language does not equal national identity. Parts of the East and Crimea are Russian nationality majority but mostly because Russians deported the indigenous peoples and replaced them with Russian settlers post WWII but also in the 19th century.
              2. almost every Ukrainian speaks Russian because Ukraine shared a state with Russia for hundreds of years. Ukrainian is also fairly mutually intelligible with Russian anyways (similar deal to Scandinavian languages or Spanish vs Portuguese)
              3. Russian language users in Ukraine have ironically been genocided by Russians using them as cannon fodder or bombarding their towns. Russians have killed far more Russophone Ukrainians than even the biggest nazi larpers shelling donetsk could hope to.

              I'm curious what conclusions you draw from this graph because I'm fairly sure it's suggesting something you did not actually intend

              not him but Russification efforts began in the Russian Empire and began again after Stalin took control. There was a period under Lenin, after the civil war when it looked like the USSR was going to end Russification and try to have a more diverse and decentralized polity but that was crushed by Stalin and his paradoxical Russian supremacism, Stalin very much wanted Russian language to reign supreme in the USSR. Which is ironic given that he was a talented writer and poet in his native tongue. The world might have been better off if he stayed a poet-bandit and hitler got into art school.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The US should cede all Spanish-speaking parts of the country to Mexico. This is totally how shit works and not the moronic demands of a dictator.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            By this logic,

            Anguilla
            Antigua and Barbuda
            Bahamas, The
            Barbados
            Belize
            Belgium
            Bermuda
            Botswana
            British Virgin Islands
            Burundi
            Cameroon
            Canada
            Cayman Islands
            Christmas Island
            Cook Islands
            Dominica
            Fiji
            Gambia
            Ghana
            Grenada
            Guyana
            Hong Kong
            India
            Ireland
            Jersey
            Kenya
            Liberia
            Malawi
            Malta
            Marshall Islands
            Micronesia, Federated States of
            Namibia
            New Zealand

            Nigeria
            Niue
            Norfolk Island
            Northern Mariana Islands
            Pakistan
            Palau
            Papua New Guinea
            Philippines
            Pitcairn Islands
            Rwanda
            Saint Kitts and Nevis
            Saint Lucia
            Samoa
            Seychelles
            Sierra Leone
            Singapore
            Sint Maarten
            Solomon Islands
            Somalia
            South Africa
            South Sudan
            Sudan
            Swaziland
            Tanzania
            Tonga
            Trinidad and Tobago
            Turks and Caicos Islands
            Tuvalu
            Uganda
            Zambia
            Zimbabwe

            should immediately be given to the UK, since their official language is English and they predominately speak English. Seems FAIR ENOUGH.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I obviously did not include nations where English is the de facto working language... So lets add those
              Bangladesh
              Bhutan
              Brunei
              Israel
              Malaysia
              Mauritius
              Qatar
              Sri Lanka
              Timor-Leste
              United Arab Emirates

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I obviously did not include nations where English is the de facto working language... So lets add those
              Bangladesh
              Bhutan
              Brunei
              Israel
              Malaysia
              Mauritius
              Qatar
              Sri Lanka
              Timor-Leste
              United Arab Emirates

              So his worst case deal is trading land full of Russians for peace and you think that’s his majority stance is that?

              Oh and I'll add that the English colonised Crimea in 1067 or so, therefore that should be handed over to them as well. A Welshman founded Donestk or some shit too, hand that too.

              This is how it works right? Oldest claim wins? I don't see no Romans or Ottomans or Greeks or Genoans claiming the land, so it's theirs now.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >This is how it works right? Oldest claim wins? I don't see no Romans or Ottomans or Greeks or Genoans claiming the land, so it's theirs now.
                I was here before humanity was even a concept, GTFO of my space.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Nigeria
              >Somalia
              >Zimbabwe
              Please don't

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Ireland
              Well yeah there was some trouble with that it seems

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >remembers New Zealand but not Australia
              m8

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                We are already controlled by the UK.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >land full of Russians
            They are not russians, moron

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Russian speaking =/= Russian, if it did then the British king controls the US.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    These losses aren't moderate, or sustainable.
    Someone made a mistake.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Someone made a big goddamn mistake

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    He literally said during the debate that Putin told him it was "his dream" to conquer Ukraine, so this little homosexual knew all about this and chose to do nothing and outright block aid that was voted on by congress. Trump is a coward and you are a fool for supporting him.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >so this little homosexual knew all about this and chose to do nothing
      Like all politicians in the west. You think this was some secret idea the russians had?

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >sending cold war leftovers to ukraine to help cuck Russia
    >sending billions in support to israel for no discernable gain
    There's only one correct choice.

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    you could always give them back nukes and strategic bombers you forced them to give up during budabest memorandum

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I disavow the talmud and the torah(it's literally part of the Bible, dipshit), and you're still a homosexual. Oh, wait, do you think israelites are actually magic? You're actually mentally ill.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Lol you're seething and it's obvious try and ask your supervisor for a different board assignment hahaha
      >verification not required

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >overcome your magic mumbo jumbo
        >hurr you're seething
        Your gentile spells don't work on me, homosexual.

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Are these kinds of losses moderate
    No they are pretty heavy
    >sustainable?
    Considering they only need to sustain them until USA elections, yes.

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, they've been sustaining it for years

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Doesnt make it sustainable for the next 2

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >I've sustained this terminal cancer for 2 years now
        >the future is looking good.

        If you think the situation will be any significantly different two years from now you are sorely mistaken

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, itll be worse for the russians as they will have less soviet stockpiles to burn through. Their increased loss rate speaks to that. I cant wait for the stalin era tanks tho.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          It will absolutely be though, just as it is significantly different than it was two years ago. The old soviet stockpiles are not infinite and Russia's military industrial capacity cannot hope to sustain current loss rates once that runs dry, and it will. The daily human casualties also take a toll.

          Two years ago barely productive (if at all) meat waves with MT-LBs and ancient T-64s and T-62s when guns that don't work and scrap metal sheds welded to them would have seemed like the insane ravings of a madman.

          Russia is a lotto winner creeping ever closer to the day when they check the old bank account and find more than a few less digits than expected if not a red balance.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          So we shall just memoryhole that situation was already significantly different two years ago and pretend like russia always had a madmax tier army, getting its territory majorly bombed daily and selling itself to north korea for every little bit of ammo?
          Yeah bro, sure nothing ever changes.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Most people aren't capable of thinking 2 days ahead into the future, but you, my moronic friend, are so mentally deficient that you don't even understand the very concept of the future. Are you a part of the Pirahã tribe, by any chance?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >2 and a half years ago the russians were making quick advances with seemingly endless amounts of armor pouring in from like 8 different axes, in some cases penetrating 100+ kms into enemy territory
          >now the russians spend months focusing on one town/handful of villages and attack with a combination of ork'd out MT-LBs, motorized chicken coops and civilian bikes converted into tuk-tuks
          >they stall out less than 10 kms in, despite the ukrainians apparently "pocketing the money for the construction of the defenses" and "letting them walk in unopposed"

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >despite the ukrainians apparently "pocketing the money for the construction of the defenses" and "letting them walk in unopposed"

            That's an annoying point I saw here yesterday, Ukraine couldn't build defenses up on their border because... they'd get shot the frick up by Russians!
            Which is bad enough, except some dickhead in the US decided that causing Russian's ouchies on their own land was going to upset Putin's fee fees and that would be bad. Well Russia took advantage of that 10km gap and in the total of a bit over 2 months have advanced exactly 5-10km over the border!
            Now they're allowed to shoot US supplied weapons over the border, its come on down to frick town again and Russian's are dying in horrific numbers again, just for a change

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >I've sustained this terminal cancer for 2 years now
      >the future is looking good.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, I also like linear thinking

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Its Over.

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >sustainable?
    you would need information about average russian production of this equipment, a lot of this is not in production for decades. so every MTLB, BMP1 or 2, every D-20 or D-30, etc is an irrecoverable unsustainable loss. other stuff like desertcross and motorcycles can be imported from china, as long as russia got enough money

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >you would need information about average russian production of this equipment
      like twenty or so new tanks a year, sounds sustainable now?

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    New losses list for today 79 for Puccia vs 15 for Ukraine.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no no no, zisters, what about that one day when it was *almost* 1:1? I thought israelitelenskyyy was on suicide watch?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      2 Ukrainian trees hurt? This is terrible.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Obviously they were booby-trapped trees.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What boat did they sink?

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