Are people who put in floors expected to move the furniture, or is that the responsibility of the owners?
Are people who put in floors expected to move the furniture, or is that the responsibility of the owners?
Are people who put in floors expected to move the furniture, or is that the responsibility of the owners?
Clear the floor yourself.
To be clear, I'm not having my floors done. Rather I am looking into doing floors and want to know if it would be expected of me to remove things such as a toilet or bed.
Not at all. You're there to lay tile, not move furniture. I would expect a plumber to have wax rings in his van, but not my tile guy.
You're also within your rights to politely remind your clients that they need to move their shit.
Furniture and personal effects are just that and can/should be moved by their owners, a toilet is a fixture that needs a reasonably skilled person to handle it just like other plumbing and mechanical fixtures that might interfere with flooring installation like sink pedestals, freestanding woodstoves, clawfoot tubs, baseboards and other moldings, etc.
In a real world remodel situation most people want a more or less turnkey job so if you aren't up to removing and replacing those items you'll need to either let the owner know *in writing* that they need to set it up, or hire a sub and add that and any other costs involved in handing over a 100% completed job.
Not furniture for free, a bathroom you would lift the toilet, but it would be an extra fee
You'd also, obviously, have to install toe molding
That all sounds reasonable. Thanks.
I own a kitchen remodeling business.
We often do simple stuff like painting and veneering cabinets. I tell customers that all their belongings/appliances need to be removed from cabinets. Both for the customer and the contractor it's better for the homeowner to figure that out or hire someone else to do it. If I show up to a job and there's a bunch of shit in cabinets/on counters then we just reschedule.
The last thing you want is some tile installer breaking your shit because he's there to lay tile and gtfo.
You are there to do a good job on their floor.
If you touch anything else, you are only muddying the waters of what were you there to do.
To ensure a quality job on their floor, the diligence to move everything appropriately and wothout damage must be the responsibility of someone else.
Movers can do this if the homeowner doesn't want to...
If they want to hire you to move things as well, they need to unerstand acknowledge any damage or mishandling is seperate from your work on the floor.
Some people are shitty and will eat you alive for any reason. Limit your liability, make them pay you for what they want, not everything they can get you to do to turn around and use one detail to act like a victim.
It's not everyone, but the assholes make all our lives worse. Don't touch their shit.
If someone acts like a victim cuz they have to move their shit, how do you think the rest of the job is going to go?
>inb4 no one wants to work
I didn't want this world either. Fuck off.
Definitely up to the owner. I do structured cabling for networking and I usually ask my customers to run any conduit I specify, drill any holes needed and ensure I've got a grounding cable where in the places where I put the server racks. Somebody wants me to do these things as well, I usually go "Sure, but you'll have to pay my usual hourly rate for that as well. I'm probably to expensive for that, but if you insist I'll do it.".
I have a related question, I need a new toilet AND new tile. What order do I do it in? Tile then toilet? Or toilet then tile?
ima believe that you really don't know. Ima also beieve you are gonna do it yourself, but evan asking the question gives me doubt you are capable. No bully.
Yank the toilet. Lay the tile. Reinstall toilet.
I require all laborers to do the full job, including moving, then replacing all items.
Then I blue tape every piece of damage, threaten to sue for reasonable amount to cover alleged cost, and maybe a tad bit extra.
They would rather settle, deduct cost from final invoice.
It's really a win-win situation for me. The furniture was going to go to the dump anyway
I had my whole house re-carpeted. They grumbled when I let them in and fucked off to work, but they still did it.