Are modern guns manufaturers worse than old ones?

I doubt a Browning M2 made during WW2 would have exploded just like this gun did.

This gun that exploded looks like something made of ordinary plumbing bought on a hardware store.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Barretts never do that, that moron was using bubbas pissing hot grenade handloads in the absolute cheapest .50 on the market of course it exploded. Can probably do it with turkshit shotguns too, modern benellis are still incredible shotguns and better than the old stuff by a mile

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That wasn't the gun's fault, but the ammunition.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever you say Serbu, still not buying your cope rifle.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gun
      some plumbers pipes with a trigger on it is a gun now huh?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        always has been

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >laughs in every 1st gen smg

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, the 1st gens were all extremely expensive, and indulgently manufactured

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              MP18 says hi

              captcha: KN04
              so close, captcha, so close

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >not a glock & wesson connoisseur
        go away tourist

      • 1 month ago
        sage

        In a literal sense, yes.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Let me stick a shell that has the powder equivalent to a quarter stick of dynamite into a pipe gun that Leroy with 2 teeth built in his garage. Itll be fine because he supports izzrul

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just say you know nothing and ask for details instead of spouting. I assume your goal with this thread is to goad people into educating you by posting a stupid noguns opinion like an autistic freak instead of asking like a normal human.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This will be a great thread with productive discourse.
    >inb4 frick ya mudda

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >you must be at least 18 to post here

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I ain't ever had a blown rifle during my time in nam' but today? I've lost like 3 KACs and 1 LMT to shitty ammunition

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you serious?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Of course I am. Do you think 'Nam war vets don't post on the PrepHole?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah he regularly loads all his cases to capacity with pistol magnum powder so that he can try to sue manufacturers when it inevitably blows them up.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >People who can't refute the fact that a Browning M2 would have never exploded get angry and begins to attack OP

    always like this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      read the actual posts for more than 5 seconds. it was the ammo and not the gun that was the problem in OPs pic. the same ammo absolutely would have blown an M2. OP is just being moronic and also this

      >you must be at least 18 to post here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/j9Xq0WF.jpeg

      I doubt a Browning M2 made during WW2 would have exploded just like this gun did.

      This gun that exploded looks like something made of ordinary plumbing bought on a hardware store.

      >Tried the ammo again later with two other guns
      >It blew up a Barret and cracked the reciever, including blowing lethal shrapnel from the bolt through where the shooter's head would have been
      >Blew up a second Serbu when a proofing load didn't.
      The ammo was so overpressure it peened the fricking case head stamp into the bolt face. It literally shoved a chunk of brass so violently it stamped hardened steel.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It literally shoved a chunk of brass so violently it stamped hardened steel
        That... literally doesn't sound like it should even be possible. How did the brass possibly maintain the shape of the headstamp where the steel failed

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Apply enough pressure, and metal behaves a bit like a liquid. See also: shaped charges and EFPs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Browning M2s can take ammunition with four or five times standard pressure?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A browning M2 would absolutely shit its guts out if it was fed the find of pressure that thing took to detonate. The ammo he used was a ticking time bomb. If not him, it would have gotten someone else eventually

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >A browning M2 would absolutely shit its guts out if it was fed the find of pressure that thing took to detonate.

      This. I've witnessed a WW2 era M2 (Frigidaire made) .50 cal blow up. The feed cover was bent like a banana, and the barrel extension was split right through the threads. The feed pawl was blown ~100 meters to the side. The sideplates blew their rivets and were considerably bulged.
      We managed to fix it, but it was not a cheap repair.
      All cause the dumbfrick who owned it had to shoot the cheapest of ammo and could not be bothered to check for squibs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like it failed safely like a well designed gun should instead of nearly decapitating the user like shitty pipe bombs masquerading as rifles.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like it went off like a fricking grenade, and shit parts all over.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you are moronic

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Are modern guns manufacturers worse than old ones?
    Like everything else you can buy from cars to houses, it's people cutting corners and up charging on said inferior product. If you want to see to a real joke look at real estate prices these days, people are literally putting 10k of effort and cheap junk in a house and have the balls to raise the price by 50k. People got greedy and this is the fallout of it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I get to see near-complete houses every day for work and it's still shocking to see the sudden drop in build quality.
      During the pandemic thousands of boomers fled from the city into my small (20k pop) town. In just one year city planners approved the construction of over 600 new homes and the building companies are cutting the most ridiculous corners just to keep up.
      >2" gap between the concrete and the wall because the foundation is moving at mach fricking 4
      >cracked walls repaired with plaster that are cracking again
      >dishwasher cavities that aren't square and therefore can't fit a dishwasher
      >the same interior template used in probably 300 homes by now
      >cheap PV solar inverters that produce ear splitting coil whine (although not really a problem since boomers can't hear it)
      >cheap LED light fixtures made by a company that probably won't even exist when you need to replace one

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've done some work on "affordable" housing in seattle.
        imagine 1" plywood for the flooring, but it feels spongey from moronic drywallers overloading carts and running them around, causing the floor to bulge and snap-crackle-pop everywhere they go.
        they even had a fricking wheel go through the floor at one point.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The worst offenders are what we call the "landlord special" (which is like 90% of new homes these days).
          My town, like almost all towns is run by a cartel of landlords who work together to approve the most shoddy of creations and ensure no competition actually takes place.
          Inspectors get paid to sign off literally anything with 4 walls and a roof; tenants can't complain because the landlord won't listen, the neighbors can't complain because the entire street is owned by the same landlord, you need extremely deep boomer-pockets to get your own house approved because the town planners are all landlords.
          It's insane and I hate the fact that daring to even question the cartel gets you branded as a communist.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The most infuriating part is that they always buy the worst possible shit imaginable.
            I can quote a landlord $549 for the cheapest chinkshit basic range on the market, then quote them $579 for a nice $1099 range that's on clearance sale, and they will always without any fricking doubt choose the shit one because it's $30 cheaper.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm a landlord and I do not do this, I want stuff to last. Things breaking and stuff going bad is expensive and more importantly stressful. But I'm just one guy with 10 apartments and that's it, and I own them outright, no mortgage. Tenant protections are so wrongheaded now that I will sacrifice a great deal of money to have good people who stick around, and then leave things empty until I find the right next person. Apartments are also only maybe 10% of the stock in our town, though yeah home prices have gone up. More importantly property taxes have skyrocketed.

              One problem though with a lot of appliances is frankly it's becoming impossible to keep up with who is decent and who is shit, it changes every few years. "Nice, more expensive" stuff isn't even necessarily more reliable. Private equity or trying to hit next quarter profits constantly seems to push even old brands into driving themselves into the ground. Tons of expensive shit is built just as garbage on the internals as cheapshit, except they add SMART, CLOUD CONNECT AI """"features"""". It's really frustrating trying to buy quality, doesn't even matter how much you're willing to pay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You seem like a very different breed of landlord compared to the ones in my town.
                The landlord cartel here runs everything, when a new street is laid down they buy up every block of land on that street. The town planners are all either in on it or are cartel members themselves, so if you want them to approve you (a mere common man) for a new home you need to be filling certain pockets with prohibitive amounts of cash.
                They also don't care about the quality of the appliances at all because they usually just offload the repair bill to the tenants, they come up with a bullshit story about how it's the tenants fault the old machine died. The tenant cannot question or fight this because then they'd be out on the street and probably blacklisted from other cartel homes, which is easily 90% of the housing market.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In the 40s and 50s WW2 vets would’ve beat the shit out of the landlords in front of their kids and shot any deputies interfering. Maybe we do need a draft and a World War, just so we can come back and b***h slap the materialists into at least pretending to be decent white men. But who am I kidding, even the so- calledconservatives wear baseball caps inside and at the dinner table, can’t even conserve southern manners. This ship is only heading one direction.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You insufferable homosexual M2 brownings aren't rated for rounds of that pressure. It would have disastrously detonated any gun that it chambered it.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Correct, overpressure failures in M2s tend to blow the barrel off

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >put wildcat round in a gun that's made in bubbas shack
    >expect any different result

    that fricking gun is hilariously shitty

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't actually know what a wildcat round is, and I'm calling your misuse of the term before some moronic zoomers read your post and also start using it incorrectly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A wildcat is like .224, habib.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >use an incredibly unsafe bootleg round
    >lol gun is shit, this gun I heard about in video games is probably better
    you need to be 18 or older to post here

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Are modern guns manufaturers worse than old ones?
    they are significantly better, it's just that almost all shit guns from the past were allowed to be destroyed so you never see them anymore.
    but you knew that, you just wanted to make a stupid thread to fill the board with garbage

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    iirc M2 barrels are threaded on, and just kind of fall off the front of the machine gun when the threads fail
    >something made of ordinary plumbing
    yea is a farely stupid cheap design with little margin for safety or any adequate inbuilt fail safe
    >firing sussy SLAP ammo though a muzzle break
    >in a pipe bomb / less than khyber pass gun
    there are a few unknowns here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm the one on the hood of the Gun Truck. I was trying to get video to send home to show the .50 cal being fired. It was a Kentucky National Guard Sergeant on the gun, he tried to load the .50 but it was too full of sand to even pull the bolt back. So he unscrews the barrel to pull the gun apart to clean it, but instead of taking the barrel all the way out and laying it off to the side he left it sticking out.
      After about 30 minutes of cleaning it to My satisfaction he gets the bolt carrier group put back in, the trigger plate on, then tried to load the gun. He had a hard time getting it to charge, I had not been standing up there the entire time so I did not notice he had not screwed the barrel back in place. He is very fortunate, WE, are very fortunate the barrel was far enough in that the round went out the barrel and did not explode right there in our faces.
      >He ended up paying somewhere around $5000 and lost a stripe over the deal because it cracked the gun making it unserviceable. I have a longer video somewhere but have been unable to locate it. This video was taken by a KBR contract driver.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >adjusts tinfoil hat
    who ever loaded that bullet in what ever century must have measured the powder wrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no way

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't M2's sorta famous for exploding when some moron fricks with the adjustable headspace?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that just Browning's curse.
      He personally reaches out and b***hslaps whomever dares mess with his ultimate design the wrong way

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can misadjust a Browning to the point of exploding, but it takes effort. They're actually just about moron proof.

      >be me, ship's armorer
      >one gun crew reporting issues with their m2 but they think they have it figured out
      >gunner and a-gunner are notoriously moronic, this needs my attention
      >ask them about headspace and timing
      >they have no idea what those are
      >they also report that the spent cases "look funny"
      >oh shit
      >check timing, completely fricked
      >barrel screwed out 20 clicks or something ridiculous like that
      >ask them whether they're trying to commit suicide or wreck my gun
      >"it ran better when we unscrewed the barrel a bit, so we just kept unscrewing it until it ran properly"
      >ask them how the timing got that bad
      >"we were playing with it, thought maybe that was the problem"
      >did you use the timing gauge?
      >"oh, that's what that thing is for, no, we don't know how to use it"
      >so you just started fricking with it with no idea of what you were doing?
      >"yeah, we thought we could fix it"
      >show them for the third time how to operate their fricking gun, make them set the headspace and timing correctly
      >tell them to practice it a few times to make sure that they really understand it
      >morons proceed to drop the barrel over the side

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        and thats how Zoidberg got a new pipe for his cottage

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >morons proceed to drop the barrel over the side

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf is this whole moronation to change barrels?

        Who would do all this crap during combat?

        Meanwhile german stuff:

        How the frick muricans won the war?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          an mg42 isn't in 50bmg, no shit its easy to function
          next you're gonna tell me an auto cannon isn't the same as artillery?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the m2 browning (aka big m1919) is water cooled, there is no need to change the barrel

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              M1921s were, and some configurations of the M2 were. the water jackets were dispensed with in favor of the M2HB early on, there is almost no way you don't know this

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm very forgetful, so its a cycle of looking things up and forgetting them again
                >tfw no one needs a water cooled M2 and the HB is good enough

                >I'm the one on the hood of the Gun Truck. I was trying to get video to send home to show the .50 cal being fired. It was a Kentucky National Guard Sergeant on the gun, he tried to load the .50 but it was too full of sand to even pull the bolt back. So he unscrews the barrel to pull the gun apart to clean it, but instead of taking the barrel all the way out and laying it off to the side he left it sticking out.
                After about 30 minutes of cleaning it to My satisfaction he gets the bolt carrier group put back in, the trigger plate on, then tried to load the gun. He had a hard time getting it to charge, I had not been standing up there the entire time so I did not notice he had not screwed the barrel back in place. He is very fortunate, WE, are very fortunate the barrel was far enough in that the round went out the barrel and did not explode right there in our faces.
                >He ended up paying somewhere around $5000 and lost a stripe over the deal because it cracked the gun making it unserviceable. I have a longer video somewhere but have been unable to locate it. This video was taken by a KBR contract driver.

                neat thanks for the expanded lore, I cant even remember if that's the video I remember lol
                >I have a longer video somewhere but have been unable to locate it.
                even finding the short version is a score
                >lost a stripe over the deal because it cracked the gun making it unserviceable
                filtered / hazed by a manual of arms, but its still a lucky event as you say
                >did not explode right there in our faces

                ?t=15
                dodged that one ehh

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          All new M2s have headspace and timing preset. You just pull the barrel out. Just make sure you/ve got the right barrel.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >morons proceed to drop the barrel over the side

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is just boomer cope.
    >yeh sonney
    >*crack*
    >*siiiiiip*
    >they sure don't make em' like they used to
    >m2 browning never exploded from 190,000 psi
    >heh it could handle 400,000
    >*fart*

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No.
    Guns were worse 10 and 20 years ago.
    Domestically produced foreign guns are barely becoming acceptable but are still overpriced pieces of shit that beat themselves to death with ball ammunition.
    Before the AWB gun quality was at peak since the manufactures of all the gucci meme guns today were able to have their shit reliably imported into the US instead of the meme parts kit moronation.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick no, if half of old manufacturers were not put our odds business there'd be all kinds of maimed zoomers hell even old century and i.o. would the stacking bodies, Saturday night special ring of fire guns would be getting people killed

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Are modern guns manufaturers worse than old ones?
    yes

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have a Swedish Mauser and a Remington Mosin that both are better quality than many modern firearms despite being over 100 years old.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Excepting the fact that they shoot 4MOA in great conditions, right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Swedish Mauser
        >4 MOA
        Are you clinically moronic? Post guns.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I might as well be when it comes to anything C&R. I had to look it up to see someone claiming a 3/8" group at 400 yards using military ammo. Hot damn.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >A heavy machine gun can handle hot loads that a budget range toy a fraction of tye weight can't
    I for one am shocked

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >A heavy machine gun can handle hot loads that a budget range toy a fraction of tye weight can't
      Except that ammo was loaded to pressures that would blow an M2 like a fricking grenade you moron.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It blew up a Barret in a way that would be potentially lethal to the shooter as well. It's not the gun that's the problem and it never was

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