>What few proper AA guns they could get their hands on were so complicated that they were beyond the simple local peasants. Thankfully their was no shortages of big American movie stars to operate them.
It's basically picrel but it flies. Since South Vietnam didn't have the road infrastructure for a mechanized army the US decided to use air vans and since there was only so many places to land an air van they got the shit shot out of them.
It was rarely worth ever recovering and repairing significantly damaged Hueys in Vietnam since they were much less complex than today's helicopters and essentially treated like a flying truck. If one took battle damage and had to ditch typically the crew would render it inoperable and they'd get a new bird once they were back at base.
Needless to say this resulted in a lot of airframes being written off that could have theoretically been recovered and repaired.
Yeah let's risk the crew and whatever infantry happened to be inside just to recover a piece of shit that we could crank out almost as fast as an F series truck.
They recovered helicopters all the time in Vietnam, they left behind only helicopters that were totally trashed and burned or landed in places where those couldn't be recovered from. Even partial wrecks were worth recovering for spare parts. I listened to OH-6 pilot talk about recovering his Loach. Brand new aircraft, only acceptance test flights and couple combat sorties with that bird, then engine malfunction and auto rotating emergency landing on rice paddy. On recovery flight Chinook co-pilot accidentally dropped it on base from 300ft when landing.
Bigger issue was the crew getting killed mid flight which is why the seats received composite (boron carbide) armor packages in the mid 1960s. Probably the most expensive part of the aircraft lmao.
Are you retarded? Ever hear of the NVA? Do you think "rice farmers" just find 12.7mm DShKMs and 14.5mm ZPUs lying around without any sort of supply line going back to North Vietnam?
To be fair the US was testing mass helicopter doctrine during the war, they really thought fast insert heli's were the future at the time, the whole war was effectively the US trying out things like retard conscription and the like.
Retard conscription was done so the libfags hiding in college wouldn't get drafted. Not because the military cared about them, but because their parents were monied voters and the war was already unpopular enough by then without major donors losing their kids to morons so butterbars could earn medals.
I mean, the testing generally was for the communal group benefit anon, people are used as tools for the betterment of society all the time, nothing has changed, we just generally ask consent now, but that actually weakens the group.
Sure, but the reason retards weren't recruited is because retards are useless. The enlisted and even officers who had to onboard these living arguments for abortion will even tell you that, sometimes noting that they were useful in low-skill non-combat roles if given encouragement and supervision. Work like scrubbing barrels. They were conscripted later because no one would miss em.
Not having to activate National Guard was just as big factor. Only major national guard combat units that deployed in Vietnam were couple artillery battalions, 101st airborne fucked up big time and they essentially let NVA infantry battalion overran one of those artillery battalions. Everything else from NG that deployed were small volunteer units like rangers and shit.
Fuck no, it was one of the first airframes built to carry out "AirCav" deployments and while it was a good air frame, it was the farthest thing from invincible.
No
3000 of them were lost fighting against rice farmers
>rice farmers
NVA were highly trained and equipped
They beat the Americans back with traditional Vietnamese farming tools.
And with small fishing boats.
>What few proper AA guns they could get their hands on were so complicated that they were beyond the simple local peasants. Thankfully their was no shortages of big American movie stars to operate them.
>MiG-21
well played
>>rice farmers
>Am I a joke to you?
Nobody thinks China is cool chang
They sent dogs as well as monkeys.
It's basically picrel but it flies. Since South Vietnam didn't have the road infrastructure for a mechanized army the US decided to use air vans and since there was only so many places to land an air van they got the shit shot out of them.
and your mom is like a whale but it cant swim
yeah
It was rarely worth ever recovering and repairing significantly damaged Hueys in Vietnam since they were much less complex than today's helicopters and essentially treated like a flying truck. If one took battle damage and had to ditch typically the crew would render it inoperable and they'd get a new bird once they were back at base.
Needless to say this resulted in a lot of airframes being written off that could have theoretically been recovered and repaired.
Yeah let's risk the crew and whatever infantry happened to be inside just to recover a piece of shit that we could crank out almost as fast as an F series truck.
I never said they should go do that. There wasn't ever enough heavy lift to go around for that sort of thing anyway.
they should have taken the damaged ones and filled them with explosives and remote controlled them to crash on enemy positions
They recovered helicopters all the time in Vietnam, they left behind only helicopters that were totally trashed and burned or landed in places where those couldn't be recovered from. Even partial wrecks were worth recovering for spare parts. I listened to OH-6 pilot talk about recovering his Loach. Brand new aircraft, only acceptance test flights and couple combat sorties with that bird, then engine malfunction and auto rotating emergency landing on rice paddy. On recovery flight Chinook co-pilot accidentally dropped it on base from 300ft when landing.
Bigger issue was the crew getting killed mid flight which is why the seats received composite (boron carbide) armor packages in the mid 1960s. Probably the most expensive part of the aircraft lmao.
Are you retarded? Ever hear of the NVA? Do you think "rice farmers" just find 12.7mm DShKMs and 14.5mm ZPUs lying around without any sort of supply line going back to North Vietnam?
To be fair the US was testing mass helicopter doctrine during the war, they really thought fast insert heli's were the future at the time, the whole war was effectively the US trying out things like retard conscription and the like.
Retard conscription was done so the libfags hiding in college wouldn't get drafted. Not because the military cared about them, but because their parents were monied voters and the war was already unpopular enough by then without major donors losing their kids to morons so butterbars could earn medals.
If you say so kek, US government was far more pragmatic back then, willing to test stuff on is own citizenry.
The populace really did trust them, by and large.
It's not like that today because of that era
I mean, the testing generally was for the communal group benefit anon, people are used as tools for the betterment of society all the time, nothing has changed, we just generally ask consent now, but that actually weakens the group.
Sure, but the reason retards weren't recruited is because retards are useless. The enlisted and even officers who had to onboard these living arguments for abortion will even tell you that, sometimes noting that they were useful in low-skill non-combat roles if given encouragement and supervision. Work like scrubbing barrels. They were conscripted later because no one would miss em.
Not having to activate National Guard was just as big factor. Only major national guard combat units that deployed in Vietnam were couple artillery battalions, 101st airborne fucked up big time and they essentially let NVA infantry battalion overran one of those artillery battalions. Everything else from NG that deployed were small volunteer units like rangers and shit.
Go back to losing your war in Ukraine Ivan, at least we were stacking VC bodies in Vietnam unlike you incompetent fuckwits.
It's Brazilian schizo from /int/ though.
The Huey is immortal but the people inside the Huey are not.
>tens of thousands
My dude, you don't have to lie when the actual number is still in the mid-thousands. Have some self-respect.
If you hit enough of something important it goes down, if it passes through clean you get that image.
Great example of survivor bias you got there pal.
*Survivorship
FUCK. And there I was being all smug and shit.
Fuck no, it was one of the first airframes built to carry out "AirCav" deployments and while it was a good air frame, it was the farthest thing from invincible.