Are henry actions the same action as a 336 marlin, just made by henry or does henry have a proprietary action?

Are henry actions the same action as a 336 marlin, just made by henry or does henry have a proprietary action?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are probably not inter changeable if that is what you are asking. A lever action is a lever action for the most part.
    >obvious obscure historical exceptions

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh, is there a difference between a marlin action and a Winchester one? I know there is a big difference between a winchester 1873/76 action and the browning made winchester 1886/92/94 actions and that some guns like the long ranger have a rotating bolt

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >oh, is there a difference between a marlin action and a Winchester one?
        yes there is a massive difference. the only similarities are that they are lever action. literally everything else is different.

        The 336 action is not the same as an 1894c. Completely different bolts. If the 336 has ever been offered in a pistol caliber, I will let a more knowledgable anon correct me, but there's another difference.

        As for the Henry, I don't actually know if it's closer to the 1894c or the 336, but based on the abscence of any mention of the 1894 Marlin jam developing on a Henry, I'll guess it's different.

        Winchester '73s and '92s are top eject and different still.

        >If the 336 has ever been offered in a pistol caliber
        it was available in .44 magnum for a time. Winchester also offered a model 94 in .44 and .45 colt. IIRC they did this because their pistol cartridge lever guns were not yet redesigned for safe firing of the big bore magnums. Winchester had actually scrapped the 1892 machines and had to rebuild them.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The 336 action is not the same as an 1894c. Completely different bolts. If the 336 has ever been offered in a pistol caliber, I will let a more knowledgable anon correct me, but there's another difference.

    As for the Henry, I don't actually know if it's closer to the 1894c or the 336, but based on the abscence of any mention of the 1894 Marlin jam developing on a Henry, I'll guess it's different.

    Winchester '73s and '92s are top eject and different still.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a Henry X and Marlin 1894 and the bolts are different so it's probably safe to say the chambers and actions are different too.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Ruger have any plans to make Marlins in .357 or .44?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They've said yes since they launched the 1895 2 years ago, but God knows how much supply chain issues have fucked plans.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Marlins in .357
      I'm edging so hard for exactly this.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does Ruger have any plans to make Marlins in .357 or .44?

        >buy rifle length gun
        >get it in weak ass handgun calibers

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There aren't many straight wall rifle .35 calibers with a rim left, anon. And even if there were, it's very unlikely you're going to find a lifter that also chambers .38 spl as well.

          I shoot steel a lot more than I shoot at animals, and all that ass behind a rifle is actually a detriment then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I shoot steel a lot more than I shoot at animals
            This. You can have your meat maker in the safe for the couple times a year it goes out and the rest of the time just have something fun and cheap to shoot.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How about shooting .38 special for practice and then using .357mag to hunt durr?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This can work tho you will have to adjust your sights or know your hold when you hunt. It's annoying bc the cheap 38 is only like in lower grain weight, while you would hunt with 158 or 180 grns. I think it's different enough that you would be better off shooting a shit ton of 22lr or even an air rifle. It will hone your technique. Recoil with a 357 carbine is not that much so I don't think it will make a diff. If you are talking handgun hunting then yeah I suggest you practice with your actual hunting load.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was thinking just using .38 for general practice and then shooting .357 mag through it before hunting season.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            will .360 buck breaker be backwards compatible with .357/.38?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I use mine for whacking small game at short range, and as a hiking gun. A 158 grain slug trucking along at 1800 fps or a 125 grainer cruising at 2200 fps have some ass behind them but send almost no recoil back at the shooter. It was an awesome first gun as a teenager and I learned to reload making ammo for it. It's also an excellent training tool for teaching new shooters, most people I hand it to including several tiny women love it. I've turned two super left wing girls into gun chicks that way.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have a remlin 357, love it and shoot the shit out of it. I have ~3300 down the pipe so far and only the first box wasn't my handloads, just some aluminum blazer I wanted to get rid of. I also have a big loop 45-70, but each shot takes ~7x as much gunpowder and the cheapest bullets are a quarter apiece instead of less than a dime.
        My only gripe is the 357 is a 20" not a 24", in retrospect I wish I'd held out for a limited.

        Also a lot of posters above have confused the marlin 1894 with the 1895. Henry copied the 1895.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bro it's so good, 38s out of this thing are nearly as noisy as a 22 revolver. I hope they bring back the CSBL in some shape or form. Yeah it isn't the classic look but as modern interpretations go it's the sexiest

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man, knowing nothing about either of those rifles, the finish machining on the top rifle is so much nicer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only difference I see is the larger radius on the edges of the loop, and you're not wrong about that; marlins can be a bit rough on the backs of your fingers while working the action. The worst one I ever had was a '69 winchester 94 in .44 with a too-long extractor, that motherfucker had to be yanked open after firing. I'd rather have a smoothed out marlin than any henry though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was also looking at the well done countersinking, finish on the bolt, and presumably the barrel since I wouldn't think the bottom rifle was done as nice if it was going to be coated like it is.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think they both have countersinking on the screws, just the marlin has hex style screws instead of flathead, which tbh is a better design, flatheads get boogered up too easy. As for the henry's bluing vs the quasi-park the marlin has, marlin's bluing is dark and glossy normally. I have one stainless and one blued, but no henry's so I can't speak from experience. I think if you had to use both of the OP pic rifles as a club though, the henry would break first.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Perhaps, but then the pan heads would be an odd fastener choice.
            >flatheads get boogered up too easy
            I don't completely disagree there, but that's mostly due to people grabbing the first flathead they see whereas hex forces people to use the right size.
            Either way I'm just looking at one picture and making guesses.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              even with the exact right screwdriver, tightening/loosening the final torque is stressful, for me it takes 100% of the downwards pressure I can put on it and two hands on the screwdriver. If someone made a hex/star replacement screw kit with perfect fit, I'd pay $60 for it, maybe even $80.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Leaver action in 357 maximum when?
    >almost ballisticslly identical to 350 legend
    >rimmed so it can be used easily in leveractions
    >can still shoot 357 mag and .38

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      henry is coming out with 4 rifles in .360 buck breaker

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one cares about that shit, get .35 remingting.
        >b-but 4 shithole states require straightwall for a rifle for hunting
        Don't care, move/use a shotgun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >use a shotgun
          sabot .45 out of a shotgunn is a lot more effective than people think at mimicking rifle performance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's really long for a pistol cartridge, but short for a rifle cartridge.
      No MFG wants to make necessary adjustments to their current models.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why can't they make a lever action 350 legend. All you gotta do is use polymer tip like Hornady or a flat tipped bullet. What gives

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's gay and lever actions already have rounds that do .350 legend better than the legend. You also don't need special bullets for that. The .357 magnum, .30-30, .35 Remington and big bores have been around for ages with zero issue. The legend only has the advantage of being dirt cheap comparatively because of the massive marketing push and it's not recovering from hoarding and panic sales

        Also fwiw, lever actions do not and have never had issues with rimless. The 1895, savage 99, Winchester 88 and every Marlin short stroke conversion are proof of this

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You pedantic moron of course 350 legend is gay if only exists because of states with retarded hunting laws made by libshits politicians who don't know their mouth from their asshole. The point is it shoots better than 357 in all cases, 35 rem is not that popular, and 30-30 is superior but it would not be legal in straight walled states you cunt. If they made it in a lever it'd be THE 30-30 for those in those retarded states. I think it would sell well.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >it'd be THE 30-30 for those in those retarded states
            It's going to be a tough sale on a new $1000+ lever action in a caliber that already comes in a $300-500 upper that fits on the 5.56 lower that most hunters probably already have. And then you've got the tubular mag meets spitzer point issue, which means ammo manufacters have to start loading .350L with flat nose, round nose, or polymer tip non varmint rounds explicitly for lever actions.

            Meanwhile, .45-70 and .44 Magnum (inside 150y) are already out there in tube mag compatible form. That's a tough sale to a vice president of sales or whoever the fuck decides on their catalogue at Henry.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For whatever reason they don't seem to like making leveractions in cartridges that aren't rimmed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          New wildcat idea. Neck a .44mag case down to .30cal, use round 7.62x25 bullets. Now you have a little bottlenecked cartridge with a rim. Call it "7.62x33mmR" or something. Chamber a lever gun in it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, 444 marlin necked down to 6.5mm

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's basically a .357/44 Bain and Davis. Considering I've heard of 1894 conversions to .44 Ripsaw (.375 Linebaugh shortened to 1.73" OAL and necked to .429", with a 33,000 psi pressure limit), a .357/44 conversion or the conversion you're suggesting really shouldn't be that hard to pull off. The advantage of .357/44 would be that dies already exist for that caliber, whereas you'll need to contact a custom die and chamber reamer fabricator, and the fact that .357" projectiles are very common and cheap while 7.62 mm handgun projectiles are much less so.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          New wildcat idea. Neck a .44mag case down to .30cal, use round 7.62x25 bullets. Now you have a little bottlenecked cartridge with a rim. Call it "7.62x33mmR" or something. Chamber a lever gun in it.

          Someone already did this basic idea with 7mm bullets in a .30-30 and Federal still sold ammo up until the ammo crunch ended it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        muh rim

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah, me

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    damn marlin is really copying henry's homework there

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Weak bait

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how? the marlin looks just like the henry and henry invented the first lever gun in 1860

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even weaker bait

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            what marlin was made before the 1860 henry?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That doesn't mean they have the same action.
              The OPs picture is a marlin 336, which action has existed since the ~1880s, and the Henry side gate, which was a copy of the marlin action they inly started making ~10 years ago

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