Are Destructive Device shotguns worth buying?

Are Destructive Device shotguns worth buying PrepHole?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What makes that a DD? Shotguns are legal and semiauto magfed are just normal title 1 too, friend has a few. Actually curious.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The USAS 12 was initially supposed to be introduced to the American domestic market, but was ultimately shut down when it was classified as a Destructive Device due to it serving no sporting purposes.
      what a waste of money

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/DkVYNnc.png

        GayTF letter
        >tl;dr no sporting purpose cause scary and bore over certain diameter

        what sport is this used in?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That looks like a standard clay shooter or squirrel hunter gun to me anon.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The AR15 is below the arbitrary bore size for being a DD.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            thats cool but thats not an ar15 you silly billy

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              he's such a silly goose

        • 2 months ago
          Resident Wumbologist

          3-Gun competitions use Saigas and AR looking shotguns like that to demolish the shotgun stages. At this point if you aren't using one you basically don't have any chance to win.

          The AR15 is below the arbitrary bore size for being a DD.

          That's a 12ga shotgun that looks like an AR-15.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          culling joggers

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          hog hunting?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Commie bicep challenge cup.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Luck based bullseye shooting. Basically craps if done with birdshot at a long distance

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      GayTF letter
      >tl;dr no sporting purpose cause scary and bore over certain diameter

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just create the mega extreme clay shooting league where you get swarmed by 20 at a time except they are three times as large as usual

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What makes that a DD?

      "No sporting purpose"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thermobaric birdshot shells.

        >burn the ends off of feathers and the live ones cant fly away

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >bird falls to the ground perfectly cooked
          based

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's an import, so unlike domestic treasury secretary gets to decide if it has a "sporting purpose". And unfortunately for those poor bastards they tried to bring it to the states in the mid-Clinton administration and whoops "NO SPORTING PURPOSE >:(" so became a DD which torpedoed it, leaving us with turkshit instead.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesn't some US manufacturer just make a copy?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There was an attempt to recreate the USAS-12 but like

          some arizona company was gonna do a domestic clone and bypass dd ruling like 15 years ago or somethin but plan fell apart. dont remember why.

          said it just up and vanished was supposed to have a picatinny rail instead of the carry handle
          otherwise any attempt to clone the USAS,Strike and street sweeper never happened probably because of manufacturers not wanting to deal with the NFA and its retarded bullshit

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank god for that, the carry handle is like 40 percent of the charm

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          See

          some arizona company was gonna do a domestic clone and bypass dd ruling like 15 years ago or somethin but plan fell apart. dont remember why.

          . That's right, was called "WM-12" IIRC. Don't know why they died, beyond that lots of that type of effort falls apart for one reason or another. May have just been raw bad luck timing, think it was 2008? So exactly when the financial meltdown was happening, absolutely brutally bad time to be trying to get a new manufacturing business off the ground.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What makes that a DD?
      It looks scary!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It scares politicians and overprotective mothers.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    when you can buy a modern not a destructive device semi auto? probably not

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    some arizona company was gonna do a domestic clone and bypass dd ruling like 15 years ago or somethin but plan fell apart. dont remember why.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, just get a VEPR clone for $400.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    find one under 3k.
    the only shotgun drum not gimped by a feed tower

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      also, get a binary trigger

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      whats wrong with feed tower?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Without needing to feed through a tower, the only force on each shell is the spindle itself rotating, not a train of shells pushing on each other at the top.
        The shells never touch so they can't catch rims or have the soft plastic deform out of round before chambering.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You could just buy a semi-auto Italian shotgun and load your own fancy shells. If somebody breaks into your house, they’ll burn to death and you can just explain it away with a lawyer. If the glowmorons kick down your door, you’re fucked anyway so might as well make them suffer.

  7. 2 months ago
    sage

    are turkish semi-auto shotguns worth owning purely for the meme?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      youre better off buying a maverick 88 just to see how long it goes before it breaks
      fuck turkshit shotguns

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The ATI Bulldog is the only one I've found to actually work and not destroy itself under 500 rounds.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Worth $5k on gunbroker?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's a clunky museum piece so if you don't mind $5k for that, go for it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Where else am I supposed to get a self indexing rotary drum fed shotgun?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          autoweapons.com

          Unless something changed in the last few months that gunbroker price is about double what it should be. There's a lot of stupidiy regarding people buying those. I saw people bid a USED aow version of that gun up to over 8k on RIA when Autoweapons had a NEW one for 4500.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy shit thanks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      more like 1.5k
      http://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/13811-wts-street-sweeper-by-cobray/#comment-41951

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >2019

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a mag-fed domestic one, like a 20-round Mossberg.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As much as I want a USAS to fill out my Daewoo collection, 6k is not really worth it for a more or less meme.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Are they worth buying?
    From a price:performance perspective? No.
    From a collectable perspective? Subjective.
    From an investment perspective? I don't know. Probably not.

    If you just want a good auto-loading shotgun with a magazine you can get a Gen-12 for $2500.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >From an investment perspective? I don't know. Probably not.
      That's a valid assessment. Generally speaking transferable full autos appreciate well but other NFA items do not appreciate much. If the goal was purely to buy an investment a DD would not be a good choice. You'd do much better buying something like a pre-WWII S&W, rare milsurp, a fine English or Italian double shotgun, anything associated with the US Civil war, transferable full auto, etc. Watch the high-end auctions like RIA and do your homework. When "recessions" happen you can often find killer deals. There were many deals to be had this past August. There probably will be in December as well given what's going on with the financial markets, Ukraine, etc.

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