And maybe it’s really cloudy or AA is everywhere, or something
Sure, bench rifles and law/competition regulations make them necessary, beyond that maybe some lightweight scout rifle retardation, not sure how light they can make AR's these days
Some company made a pissing hot 45-70 AR with 4,600 ft/lbs of energy. They had an auto version to prove it could be done but the mag held fucking 6 rounds because the cartridge is stupid sized lol.
Sure, bench rifles and law/competition regulations make them necessary, beyond that maybe some lightweight scout rifle retardation, not sure how light they can make AR's these days
>easier maintenance by far >just remove the bolt and swab the barrel
>less pins and springs >I never have to risk losing those little springs when breaking down an AR >Never have to replace my firing pin retaining pin because they crack from heat expansion
>Gain an automatic 100+ fps because no gas is cycled out of the barrel
Bolt actions are survival guns. Everything else is for fun or self defense. If everything comes crashing down no one is going to be using ARs ten years afterward because replacement parts will be harder to find than ammo.
Bolt also suppresses better. No gas system means back pressure is irrelevant, you can throw on as much can as you want, designed any way you want. And the noise from action is not nothing either, way less then muzzle blast of course but if you really want something more quiet it's not nothing.
>easier maintenance by far >just remove the bolt and swab the barrel
>less pins and springs >I never have to risk losing those little springs when breaking down an AR >Never have to replace my firing pin retaining pin because they crack from heat expansion
>Gain an automatic 100+ fps because no gas is cycled out of the barrel
Bolt actions are survival guns. Everything else is for fun or self defense. If everything comes crashing down no one is going to be using ARs ten years afterward because replacement parts will be harder to find than ammo.
Yes.
Autists and retards like forgotten weapons tend to overfixate on what things, guns in this case, are theoretically capable of while ignoring things like logistics, how something would be in the field and such.
Like the autists that overfixate on trains and then think retarded things like replacing roads with train-tracks would be good.
When talking military the fact of the matter is that a bolt action rifle can deliver a level of accuracy to the guy on the frontline that needs it for a fraction of the cost of a semi automatic sniper rifle.
As for hunting, yeah. Local regulations might restrict semi automatics for hunting, so they're good to have.
No
Yes
Only when the army needs to execute one specific guy over a thousand meters away. Otherwise no
And maybe it’s really cloudy or AA is everywhere, or something
Dumbasses
Ok, let's add magnum caliber precision rifles to the list. I wonder how a .338 lapua mag AR would be
>I wonder how a .338 lapua mag AR would be
Expensive and inaccurate compared o a bolt action.
Some company made a pissing hot 45-70 AR with 4,600 ft/lbs of energy. They had an auto version to prove it could be done but the mag held fucking 6 rounds because the cartridge is stupid sized lol.
yes
inb4 tacticool LARPer ARG gays tel you otherwise
Relevant for what?
as long as somebody thinks they're fun, then yes
Sure, bench rifles and law/competition regulations make them necessary, beyond that maybe some lightweight scout rifle retardation, not sure how light they can make AR's these days
Yeah, they're great for hunting.
That and in most of the western world there aren't joggers running around with dracos, which make bolties alright for home/farm/ranch defense
lever action > bolt action
t. owner of both
Lever action must be amazing with bipod.
Only if you miss your first shot
depends on your circumstances
im not shooting a target 700 yards away with a .44 mag lever gun from prone
Practicallity wise no, but they are still a lot of fun to shoot and own so that would keep them relevant imo
>a pipe to shoot bullets from
Of course it is. Also, in any context outside its tactical niche it is better than no gun at all.
Yes.
>simple by design
>easy to operate
>easy to maintain
>easier to setup for long distance shooting
>easier to produce
Bolt also suppresses better. No gas system means back pressure is irrelevant, you can throw on as much can as you want, designed any way you want. And the noise from action is not nothing either, way less then muzzle blast of course but if you really want something more quiet it's not nothing.
>easier maintenance by far
>just remove the bolt and swab the barrel
>less pins and springs
>I never have to risk losing those little springs when breaking down an AR
>Never have to replace my firing pin retaining pin because they crack from heat expansion
>Gain an automatic 100+ fps because no gas is cycled out of the barrel
Bolt actions are survival guns. Everything else is for fun or self defense. If everything comes crashing down no one is going to be using ARs ten years afterward because replacement parts will be harder to find than ammo.
Bolt actions are for far away morons.
Semi autos are for lots of up close morons.
Yes.
Autists and retards like forgotten weapons tend to overfixate on what things, guns in this case, are theoretically capable of while ignoring things like logistics, how something would be in the field and such.
Like the autists that overfixate on trains and then think retarded things like replacing roads with train-tracks would be good.
When talking military the fact of the matter is that a bolt action rifle can deliver a level of accuracy to the guy on the frontline that needs it for a fraction of the cost of a semi automatic sniper rifle.
As for hunting, yeah. Local regulations might restrict semi automatics for hunting, so they're good to have.