Are 1911 platform pistols still good duty guns in the current year?

I am genuinely asking this question in good faith and not wanting to start a shit flinging contest

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    who's asking

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only in a fawty fiavhe, suhney.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't think so. not without spending $2000 on a staccato

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >on a staccato
      A what?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what is google?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "A form of musical articulation..." We're talking about firearms here, you fuck.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          inferior to duckduckgo

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        staccato. i live down the street from them. large-ish warehouse north of Austin and I think they went by another name 20 years ago when i was a kid but they've been making guns for a while now.

        you gotta figure out how to use google my dude

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >think they went by another name
          sti, they only just changed it like 2-3 years ago

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >$2000 for the exact same features as any sub-$1K 1911 with a marginal increase in accuracy and a better trigger
      Lol

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "A form of musical articulation..." We're talking about firearms here, you fuck.

        no guns don't belong on this board

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gets assblasted with his shitty posts
          >immediately falls back to “muh nogunz” cope
          Lol, lmao. I may even deign (You) with a lmfao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so which one are you? the one that is too stupid to find staccato on google or the Dunning Krueger that doesn't know what a staccato is but speaks with authority on it's features?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Keep replying like the obedient dog you are

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                tourist

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Victory tastes sweet

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Keep replying like the obedient dog you are

            Bro how tf you don't know what a 2011 is? Are you a fucking prepube?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He’s probably not a cumsoomer

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you ARE nogunz then lmfao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1911s need to be hand fitted to not be shit. Thats why cheap production 1911s are shit. Thanks for coming here zoomer.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          YOu know what buddy. I use to purposely find the shittiest bent to fuck pool cue just to beat the hell out of some fag with a $2000 Pool cue! And Id always win!
          >fuck yah muddah

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if you shoot it enough its self fitting

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tolerances can't be tightened through wear.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Overly tight fitting 1911s are just as bad.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why are 1911fags like this? is it autism? the literal boomers that used the things weren't like this.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never shot a Staccato but it was the nicest trigger I ever squeezed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what is google?

      >$2000 for the exact same features as any sub-$1K 1911 with a marginal increase in accuracy and a better trigger
      Lol

      so which one are you? the one that is too stupid to find staccato on google or the Dunning Krueger that doesn't know what a staccato is but speaks with authority on it's features?

      Are we all pretending that staccato are 2k.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I got my Staccato P gen 2 for $2000

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen three cops in Vegas using at as a sidearm in the last few years, so they thought it was good, at least.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, i've talked to a couple cops who still use the 1911 as their primary sidearm.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cops are retarded

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better than a glawk

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, they're obsolete. Not that they aren't nice but there's no real argument for them anymore.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lets see
    >Shoots bullets
    >Uses cartridges instead of needing loose balls, caps, and powder
    >Uses magazines instead of relying on loose ammo to reload
    >Reasonably accurate
    I dunno, I think the recent balance patch fucked the damage values again so I wouldn't use it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the meta now? I've been out for a bit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think the current meta is accuracy and piercing damage, blunt and slash damage builds are all falling to the wayside along with dex. The current meta combo is the XM5 paired with a P50 and the sniper perk deck

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck. Can we go back to the 2.01 update? I fucking hate this.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly I wish we could roll back to 1.7, that was the last good patch if you ask me

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uberti SAA with the snake shot upgrade. Also run juggernaut and quiet steps

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        MCX with no stock, an ELCAN SpecterDR and a generic vertical foregrip off of Wish paired with two suppressed .50 Deagle Brand Deagles

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Duty gun? Eh depends on who is carrying it.
    I like my 1911 but I wouldnt use it as a duty gun

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >duty gun
      PrepHole feds, fags and furrys. gross

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You only draw your pistol when your rifle irreparably jams or you run out of ammo, in those cases I’d want as many rounds as I could.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's retarded thinking for the average cop. Even if they have a rifle in their car the odds of a gunfight unfolding before they can get to that rifle are pretty damn high.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They wouldn’t still be so popular if there wasn’t merit to them, but there’s no argument that they are obsolete. Question is; does being obsolete in the face of newer designs make it an objectively bad choice?

    >shoots a popular cartridge
    >browning design
    >muh two world wars

    A pocket watch and a G Shock will both tell time, but you’ll trust one more to be used and abused.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You didn’t even make an argument for or against them lol. Give me specifics about why or why not they make a good duty gun

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're probably the best handguns for point shooting for those times where you have no time to line up the sights. Probably one of the best for longer distance shots, too. Saw a few videos where cops made shots with their handguns past 30 yards.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A 1911 isn’t akin to a pocket watch… it’s closer to a Hamilton field watch. Robust, and mechanical interesting, but admittedly not as tough as a plastic G-Shock with a quartz movement encased in shock absorbers.

      For civilian use though, there less than a 1% chance you’ll ever be going hard enough to need the G-Shock.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      G Shock Watch.

      Glock 23.

      Gerber Knife.

      If is fantastic, wrPped in Plastic!

      >Microplastics are now found in everyone's lungs, kidneys and liver.

      Maybe all the school shooters is because of microplastics in the brain?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I carried Colt Series 80 1911 everyday for 26 years while I served as my neighborhood's only drug dealer.
    Highly recommended.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Series 80
      oof

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never had an issue with it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ever have to use it? What'd you deal?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only ever had to flash it a few times. Got the point across. As for goods? Weed, mainly. I slung coke for a bit but once you start going that route you tend to attract unwanted attention from cops and other dealers. Nobody cares about pot. I started selling oxies after weed became legal here but now I mainly just hang out with my grandkids and flip collectable toys on ebay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      top post

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only good post ITT that actually answers OP’s question without retarded screeching

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      protect and serve.

      any stories?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you for your service.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not every day we get to hear from a 26 year veteran of the Drug War

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you for your service

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >most hold 7-8 rounds
    >they shoot da boolet just fine
    >they use god's caliber
    yea they're fine, nothing wrong with choosing one, are there better options? sure

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if there's better options then there is something wrong with choosing one. reliability is a good reason, capacity is a good reason, weight is a good reason, price to feature ratio is a good reason

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if there's better options then there is something wrong with choosing one.
        no there isn't you fucking retard, there's always better options, but not everyone is sporting KAC's and LMT's you stupid moron gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there's a difference between parity, subpar and superb.
          1911's cost more for less than guns that have parity with glock 17's. that's a conscience decision to choose a gun that's worse for more money. you're the real retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >price to feature ratio is a good reason

          Learn to read you tard.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >victory
    but i have more (you)'s and (you) have no guns

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Keep it coming, I love to shit on retards like you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/d0LTDMr.png

        >victory
        but i have more (you)'s and (you) have no guns

        Just kiss already, you gays.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post guns

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Are 1911 platform pistols still good duty guns in the current year?

    Not particularly.

    9mm has evolved to a point where .45 doesn't have much to offer against it and a standard M1911 is still a single stack.

    Now you could get a doublestack M1911 (ie a 2011) in 9mm and train yourself to instinctively knock off the manual safety in which case you'd have the benefit of a great single action only trigger but you better train enough that you'll hit that safety off as you draw even when you're scared out of your mind. Even then its going to be kind of heavy compared to polymer Glocks and the like.

    M1911 or 2011 are precision shooters guns if that's what you want and you're willing to put in the training it could be a solid duty gun provided you get a doublestack. But if you just want something hardy, reliable, simple to use and light then you should look elsewhere.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What if I found one of those TAC Ultra 10mm pistols that have 17 round mags?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a lot of firepower. 10mm is louder and has more recoil than 9mm are you good enough to handle it? Can you afford to blow through 10mm training with it? Do you anticipate having to shoot someone or something that won't go down to 9mm like a grizzly? Is it worth the extra weight, recoil and ammo expense?

        Probably not.

        That doesn't mean its not a cool gun and there's nothing wrong with buying a gun just because you think its cool (if you can afford it) but there's no need to pretend its practical.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It does look like a cool gun, and i'm not gonna be taking it anywhere out of the house unless i'm hunting...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >9mm has evolved to a point where .45 doesn't have much to offer against it
      anyone that unironically thinks this is a fucking retard, as if .45 development just completely halted and nobody ever improved them.

      i can get literally any good 9mm bullet also in .45, .45 has the some improvements 9mm does but its also larger

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i can get literally any good 9mm bullet also in .45, .45 has the some improvements 9mm does but its also larger

        Que?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You said 9mm has "evolved" as if .45 hasn't also evolved. Every improvement the 9mm saw was also applied to .45 bullets.
          All those fancy hollow points 9mm retards keep saying make .45 "obsolete" also come in .45.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't believe it has as much as compared to 9mm. 9mm is capable of reaching greater velocities than .45. It's just too fat and when bottlenecked pistol cartridges catch on the gap will be worse.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You said 9mm has "evolved" as if .45 hasn't also evolved
            One of those evolutions changed a lot, the other barely had any effect.
            Since the former has smaller and softer shooting ammo it's superior, understood?
            >but muh stopping powah
            Doesn't exist for either ammo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > perfect 10
      good dildo name

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >train yourself to instinctively knock off the manual safety
      If you're shooting a 1911 and not resting your thumb on the safety you are doing something wrong.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >9mm has evolved to a point where .45 doesn't have much to offer against i
      Ah, the old "9mm is the only caliber to have benefited from modern bullet technology" lie.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >train yourself to instinctively knock off the manual safety
      If you're shooting a 1911 and not resting your thumb on the safety you are doing something wrong.

      I don't understand how a ms is no problem on an AR-15 or other fighting rifle but on a pistol it's some killed-in-the-streets device. If you can "instinctively" flip the safety when you engage with a carbine, which all have safeties, why is a easier and more ergonomic manual safety like a 1911 some drawback?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not to look like I'm sucking your cock here, but if you know what you are doing with a 1911 you are riding that thumb safety like a gas pedal anyway

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    carrying a 1911 is like wearing cowboy hats and boots. you can't let go of something you'll never really be

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don’t live in the Southwest kek.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        indeed, i do try to stay away from gays

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But anon, you have to wake up everyday looking at the reflection in the mirror. Or more likely, your reflection on your PC screen.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends what duty.
    They're functional but they're really starting to show their age in the era of double stacks, better powder, optics and lights.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They can be doublestacked, use the same gunpowder as new guns, can be milled for new optics, and can be equipped with lights.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So a 2011 basically, yes?
        essentially you're looking at almost a different gun at that point, there's no reason not to get a different pistol that's like that from the factory.

        Also on the point of powder I mean smaller calibers have greater punch now so the stoppin power thing is a legit meme now.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there's no reason not to get a different pistol that's like that from the factory.

          I mean there aren't a lot of single action only semi auto pistols. The M1911 has dominated the market for that kind of a gun to the extent that if that's what you want then you're probably getting a M1911 or a 2011.

          Now whether you should want a SAO over a DA/SA or a striker fired gun or the like is another issue but if SAO is what you want then M1911 is probably your best bet. If nothing else SAO is nice for a target pistol.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That much is certainly true.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apparently, there's a difference between 2011s and double stack 1911s like that Alpha Foxtrot one coming out. Also, 1911 can use the smaller caliber, too, or use the regular caliber one that has also been improved.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Apparently, there's a difference between 2011s and double stack 1911
            Yes. Inherently.
            Moving on, yes it could use a different cartridge, but that's only part of the issue.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Resident Wumbologist

    It's good enough and they are still carried by some police and security folks who prefer them, but they are definitely behind the curve.

    Biggest issue is capacity, but that can be remedied somewhat with 10rd extended magazines. That's still not very good compared to modern wonder-nines carrying 15-20+ rds on board but considerably better than just 7.
    Reliability is an often cited concern but really the solution is to get one that's just a bit loose. A lot of 1911s are built too tight and that's where you run into trouble. Feed ramps sometimes need adjustment for flat nosed or JHP ammunition if that is used.
    Weight is another problem that you kind of can't get around. Alloy and polymer framed pistols weigh less and are easier to carry around all day.
    Finally there's the safety. A 1911 must be carried either cocked/locked or half cocked. That means an operation of some kind is necessary between drawing and firing. Modern doctrine for service and civilian carry guns leans towards a capability of being drawn and fired instantly. This can be accomplished with a passive trigger safety, or perhaps DAO combined with a rigid holster but with a 1911 you really need to practice disengaging the safety during the draw. It's not hard, but it is an intermediate step one can stumble over in an actual life and death situation resulting in an unfavorable outcome.

    Overall of the guns I own my 1911 isn't the first gun I'd go to for actual defense or service use, but I do have a suitable holster and 10rd magazines for it. I would feel quite confident carrying it, but there are so many better options available that it wouldn't make logical sense to do so beyond my subjective experience and confidence in my individual handgun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      .45 vs 9mm
      what has better stopping powah?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        .45 Auto stops faster because its wider and slower. Stops even faster with HPs.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Stops even faster with HPs.
          Doesn’t .45 go too slow to reliably expand?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, the bigger the round the less velocity it needs to expand reliably. .45 expands very reliably simply because its such big round. Now if you were firing a 9mm subsonic or .380 at the same velocity you'd have problems with it failing to expand.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Doesn’t .45 go too slow to reliably expand?
            KYS, noguns.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pistol ammo has no stopping power until go bug enough to damage your wrist.
        Retard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      checked and thanks for taking the time to write an articulate answer to op's question burt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh shit wrong tripfag
        anyways the point still stands

        It's good enough and they are still carried by some police and security folks who prefer them, but they are definitely behind the curve.

        Biggest issue is capacity, but that can be remedied somewhat with 10rd extended magazines. That's still not very good compared to modern wonder-nines carrying 15-20+ rds on board but considerably better than just 7.
        Reliability is an often cited concern but really the solution is to get one that's just a bit loose. A lot of 1911s are built too tight and that's where you run into trouble. Feed ramps sometimes need adjustment for flat nosed or JHP ammunition if that is used.
        Weight is another problem that you kind of can't get around. Alloy and polymer framed pistols weigh less and are easier to carry around all day.
        Finally there's the safety. A 1911 must be carried either cocked/locked or half cocked. That means an operation of some kind is necessary between drawing and firing. Modern doctrine for service and civilian carry guns leans towards a capability of being drawn and fired instantly. This can be accomplished with a passive trigger safety, or perhaps DAO combined with a rigid holster but with a 1911 you really need to practice disengaging the safety during the draw. It's not hard, but it is an intermediate step one can stumble over in an actual life and death situation resulting in an unfavorable outcome.

        Overall of the guns I own my 1911 isn't the first gun I'd go to for actual defense or service use, but I do have a suitable holster and 10rd magazines for it. I would feel quite confident carrying it, but there are so many better options available that it wouldn't make logical sense to do so beyond my subjective experience and confidence in my individual handgun.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its not as good as a glock

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, considering your pistol is used only as a last resort. There’s no point in carrying large quantities of pistol ammunition

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only women and morons care about what’s trending and what’s obsolete

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .45 ACP is objectively superior to 9x19
    Cope, if you must

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i have a bit of experience competing with 2011s. i have to handload ammo or have it specially loaded for me in order to not jam. i wouldn't carry one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      woah its almost as if the gun was designed around specifically using .45 ball and not 9mm.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        9mm's not so bad, .40 is the worst. i can't make it through a magazine of standard factory .40 without choking. i don't have any factory .40 lying around, or i'd show you the difference in OAL.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2011's were mostly made around .40 for competition use.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i'm pretty sure they were originally .38 Super. the Major power factor floor has been lowered since, and semi-rimmed cartridges are out of date, so now Open 2011s shoot 9mm Major or .38 SC, while Limited ones shoot .40

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Beautiful collection bro thanks for sharing. I carry and compete with an m&p lol. You know one thing that I hate is that objectively, my Taurus g2c is more reliable than that 2011 that's finicky but in the battle between the label whores and the poors this fact gets lost. Someone doesn't even buy a 2011 for the purpose of self defense, it's for fit and competing. I can't stand the little bullshit nonsense people bicker about in the gun community. We should be above all of that. The gun community should be so much more. Deadly, scholarly, gentlemen. That's what I'd like to see. I'm sorry I've been drinking, goodnight.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        godspeed. and now i want a beer. man i haven't had a Hitachino in forever, that was always one of my favorites.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The gun community is filled by the very same low I.Q. retards of the car community. The only difference is the gun community has even more maladjusted and insecure potentially violent animals in it. Nothing about liking guns automatically makes you a good or better person since it's literally just a tool to kill people or animals. As a matter of fact I've toned down my gun craze precisely because none of the high quality people i my social circle are crazy about guns. They like them, but they're not obsessed or going on forums "hurr DURR Glock/1911/revolver sucks kys fgt", and let's be honest. Everytime we see a tripfag post a picture. It's literally a chud like McCrummyPaws or some diabetic retard like Burt. Nothing sucks the life out of a community more than elitists who don't even know what they're talking about.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That's why staccato has been gaining momentum. They actually managed to put together a 2011 that's not very finnicky. My department put a few Ps through T&E to get on the approved list (we were approached by Staccato/STI initially). The armorers and tac guys beat the shit out of the guns and fed them thousands of rounds ranging from duty ammo (HST being the mainstay), to generic brass loads from 115 through 147 grain to even a few cases of 115gr wolf steel. They performed very well which surprised a lot of guys with 2011 experience. Couldn't get them to choke or hiccup with any greater frequency than a majority of our other approved duty guns. I don't own one and don't carry one on duty, but I would not have reservations about doing so based on my department's experience.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hate the grip safety
    other than that it's alright

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I consider 2011 a different gun. So, while 9mm has become much more effective with modern cartridges .45 has as well. It's also a beautiful gun and being cool is half the battle. The other half however is shooting people and for that, yes it is at the end of the day obsolete. But oh well. Sometimes I carry a .380 because it's convenient and comfortable to carry a micro pistol. That's a good point actually, my micro .380 has 13 rounds, the 1911 is like 8. Barely more than a revolver and really shot placement is the key nowadays, not the size of the bullet.

    Also idk why you thought you'd see a pissing contest OP this isn't arfcom or something. There are very few boomers here. Of you want an argument ask this about revolvers and you'll get a surprising number of revolvertards screeching.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Autists will ALWAYS screech at your statement because of your retarded grasp on the English language. Unless you really believe those guns are literally obsolete and can no longer kill people in 2022 in which case you're so retarded there's no point when talking to you further.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where the FUCK do you get these?
      on God's green earth i WANT one of these that ain't foreign

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Springfield SA-35, go to your LGS and ask to get on a waiting list

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Retarded that these are still backordered over half a year out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, yeah thats what happens when a company outsources its materials to another country. Funny that EAA juuust happppens to be importing its own budget HiPower from Turkey. Springtards will never learn

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            according to the rep on arf.com they're shipping monthly and demand has far outstripped all expectations and production capacity. that was in june i think.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it depends on the context. For military who are using a rifle as a primary weapon it really doesn't matter very much what your side arm is, you can get away with choosing whatever you like. If your handgun is your primary weapon like most cops you'll probably want something with more capacity just because shit can go sideways any moment and you can't be sure you'll be able to get to your trunk for your rifle or shotgun. If you prefer 1911s you can probably still get away with it by using a 2011.

    For everyone else, it literally doesn't matter and nobody else cares. Just carry whatever you like.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, if you’re using a pistol only as a backup then a good grip, trigger, and sights matter more than capacity

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      those were ditched for Glocks19s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want one. I don't think they make them any more.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i think the cmp sold some of those a few years ago

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They do. Got one about a year and a half back.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it fits in your hand and doesn't fuck up it's a good handgun to rely on. My personal opinion is that Glocks are just easier to deal with and that's why my 1911 stays in the safe. However anything that can shoot bullets is perfectly fine.
    If I had to choose one to build I would have to choose the Glock as well. It's a dead simple design and has some rather clever ways to emulate certain actions of the older metal frame handguns while being polymer.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have a mixture of good and bad features
    Pro
    >Great trigger
    >Heavy frame reduces recoil
    >vast aftermarket
    >simple ergos
    >Good ones are supremely reliable
    Con
    >Capacity a shit
    >simple ergos
    >Bubba will want you to bailing twine random garbage to it
    >bad ones can barely finish a mag without jamming
    So the choice is, in the end, yours.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Personally, I carry one for its slim profile and perfecr trigger. But youd be better served by a USP or a g21 if .45 is your only priority

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes
    there are a number of good reasons to carry one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there are a number of good reasons to carry a 1911
      there's only 8 reasons. Meanwhile, a glock has 17 reasons for the same size.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my 1911 has 17 rounds
        when someone says glock do you only think about the gen 1?
        there’s been a lot of development in the 1911 in the last 100 years sport

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thing eats Speer Gold Dot and Federal HST all day long. No reliability issues at all. I do have the Gen 2 mags though. I heard the original mags were shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wish these fuckers weren't $2000+

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        RIA makes a double stack for under $1K
        https://rockislandarmoryusa.com/tac-ultra-fs-hc-9mm-17rd/

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was just looking at those but was told in another thread that 10mm and 9mm go like crap through those RIA pistols and i'd be better off getting some polymer-frame gun.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Get an XD full size. Thats a proven combat duty weapon ands its cheap considering other options

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh no worries, i'm aware. I'm still researching some sub-$800 pistols and seeing that along with SIGs offerings. I just think a 1911 with a 17 round mag to be really cool and something I can buy one day.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                get a box of 20 rounds and remove 3. Feel that weight? Now add it to a 38 oz handgun. Might as well get a shotgun if weight is your thing!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But anon you don't understand IT LOOKS COOL

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sometimes you can find them used around $16-1800, add in an old/shitty gun you don't shoot or carry and get some more cash off
        >no sell only buy
        k then stop eating out for a few months and stop buying cigarettes and alcohol for a few weeks/months
        it adds up pretty quick, and anyone even with a minimally paying job can manage layaway for a new gun like that if they quit spending money on shit they don't need, and it's not like you have to completely give that shit up, just cut back or don't for a few months and there you go
        >t. going to save up for a P7M13 soon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My LGS had one for rent and it jammed once per mag. Do you think this was a magazine issue or was the gun worn from range use?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Likely a magazine issue. Some dude did a 10k round test on staccato P and sent it into staccato for inspection and they did a video on it. It was still tight and smooth. Do you know if it was a Staccato P? I heard the C2’s have some reliability issues but I don’t have personal experience. Or if it was an older STI Tactical 4.0 or whatever, then it would likely have the old mags.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't some dude, it was a guy who works at Staccato. They were just testing their own gun. Also, why is everyone ITT referring to a 2011 when OP asked about a 1911. They are different guns despite similar aesthetics and design.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't get over the gay ass star

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not at all but they are cool

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use a 1911 in competition b/c the triggers are amazing and the tradeoffs in the game that I play where there's no real world consequences for failure are acceptable to me. What are some trade-offs? For starters, it jams. A lot. I've had magazines (Wilson Combat mags!) literally fall apart in my pistol mid-stage. On top of that it's heavy, and has limited capacity, requiring a lot more belt space vs a typical double-stack 9mm.

    And as for the .45 ACP itself? The FBI concluded that with modern defensive loads, there's no real difference between .45 ACP and 9mm, but with 9mm you have reduced felt recoil and greater ammo capacity.

    I love the 1911, my 1911 is my favorite pistol that I own, it is not something I would bet my life on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh Wilson combat mags are shit, chip McCormick only if you actually did 5 minutes of research you’d know this. You don’t deserve to own a 1911 because you are a stupid moron. Sell it to someone who knows how to research which magazines are reliable. gay.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mecgar mags cost half what those boutique rebrands cost

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > The FBI concluded
      the fbi is a democratic party shill organization. there is such limited testing on ballistics everyone uses these proven liars as reference. why don't you just get your gun information from hillary clinton herself if you are getting it from the fbi? you like that hillary hole on the gun you don't shoot too?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bullets out will fix that belt space problem.

      and post pics of your Single Stack gun, always interesting to see what those look like.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bullets out
        not the anon you replied to but holy shit that’s brilliant lmao
        i feel like a real smooth brain that it never occurred to me
        gonna make some pouches that shape next time I have a chance to pick up some leather, change my single extra magazine when I carry into two extra magazines
        completely brilliant

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a .357 1911? Are they good? I think I want one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Coonan comes to mind

      Captcha; G4NG 4N

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >3k
        shieeet time to spend some money

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Leon Vulva

    I'm just happy I finally own a cool 1911

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you gonna rattlecan it?

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it worth getting a 1911 w/ a threaded barrel in current year to shoot suppressed cheap?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, suppresses pistols are a meme if they’re not 22s

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on the duty. if you are going inna woods it is a top choice. The Colt M1911A1 can be taken completely apart (not just field stripped with no tools. A Leatherman Tool helps but is unnecessary. Parts are all large enough to handle easily and several can be made from scratch (as a last resort) with a file and hacksaw. Forget the target models. Too tight and jam prone. My Government Model rarely jams.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fuck yeah you stupid ass and I dont even own one!

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The 2011s are

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YOu do know all this gun shit is about a Fantasy running in your head, Dont yah!
    >you dont need special calibers, or massive magazine storage or hollow points or special skills. Take a pencil, and using the eraser side go around and touch people where ever, on the tip of their nose if you want to. Guess what? You will succeed in doing it 98% of the time. SO if you need to use a gun, use the same principles as the eraser on the end of a pencil.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >duty
    Not really. A good one costs too much for a duty weapon. Cheaper ones often have issues. If you personally wanna spend the $ and get a nice one that runs smooth and doesn't have feed ramp issues or stovepipe, go right ahead. They're nice guns and fun to shoot if you can find one that isn't flawed and doesn't cost $2k+ (avoid kimber like the plague). But a duty weapon should be both reliable and affordable. Solid 1911s aren't really affordable in the age of wonder 9s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A Springfield 1911 would fit the role nicely and only cost you in the $800 range. Witch is a better deal then a plastic glock!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >witch
        Wrong on 2 counts. Glocks are cheaper, carry a lot more ammo, and are far more reliable.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >duty guns
    No. The amazing trigger is the only reason they are still relevant.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are the Springfield 1911’s like pic related the best in their price range?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BEST?

      lets just say Id trust one with my life over a SDS TISA 1911

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bottom of the barrel turkshit isn’t really a high bar to jump

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          its a modern CNC version of the original blue prints. Id say its a better example then the original! But youre a racist,a classist and a cade!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Springfield 1911 and SR1911 are both the best in their price range. I'd go with the Ruger myself. If you don't care about finish and fitment a RIA 1911 will serve you just fine.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .45s are great suppressed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, they're not.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you think that?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because actual data.

          nogunz confirmed

          dumb-ass .45 fag confirmed.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tl;dr, i have more 9s than 45s tbh, but that doesn't negate shooting 45 suppressed is still great, you're still a nogunz gay cuck lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Charts show this, but my ears say otherwise. The supersonic crack alone of the 9mm makes it louder and hurts my ears. Fuck what the decibels say, in person you will say the 9mm is significantly louder. 45 I can shoot silenced all day no protection no problem.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nogunz confirmed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't 45 rounds subsonic?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then they'd be easily suppressed, wouldn't they?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so what? 180 gr .40 and 147 gr 9mm are, too. both are quieter than .45 when suppressed.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really want a 80% lower to fuck around with, but I don't have a baseline model to compare it to so I'm kinda sure I'll fuck it up since I don't know that as well as other weapons I'm familiar with. A 1911 would be a really great alternative to have over my 5 shot revolver. Although if I bought one then I wouldn't need to actually make an 80% lower into a functional one and I'm in over a grand on spending costs for both although I do need that tool for something else that I'm sure I'll probably never use for anything else but you never know when you need it and it's nice to have it there.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      80% 1911 are a really fun project if you've never put together a 1911 before. Much more fun than the dead simple Glocks or ARs. I do recommend you start with a kit as manufacturers do tend to spec their own parts to fit with other parts. 1911s do need much more hand fitting than other guns but it's a treat when you can get one running well.
      They are, like you said, kinda expensive to get into. If you're only going to be building one then it might be better to just buy a cheap 1911 to fuck around with.
      I say, even though I've only built one myself. I swear one day I'll finish my 10mm steel frame.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The current meta is high capacity, low caliber (9mm) boutque ammo, polymer framed striker fired. They have the best capacity, best shootability and handling of all handguns. They cover all bases without compromising too much anywhere.

    1911 have strenghts (excellent triggers, long term durability, Good ergos and superb accuracy); and weaknesses such as price, low round count, more complex manual of arms for retards (dissasembly, servicing, safety), recoil

    With a 1911 you need to git gud, since you have half the capacity of a glock, every round must count. You have to remember to take your safety off while you draw. There's a reason most high level shooters use 1911 or 2011 type pistols, once mastered they are fast and deadly accurate. If you master a 1911 you can throw a lot of very accurate hate down range very fast. But it takes a bit more to get there, and 45 costs twice as much as 9mm.

    You don't have the sheer volume of fire you can get off with a g17, and in a close unexpected encounter volume of fire counts. Plus due to less recoil and more ammo it's easier to get a retard to be good enough with a glock to the point they can put lead into a human sized target with reasonable accuracy, and if you consider the average retard, it makes sense to arm them with cheap good enough guns instead of expensive more complex guns.

    But what if you run into half a dozen moron gangbangers trying to advance onto you via fire and maneuver? Well, if you're caught with just your handgun, you're fucked.

    Most patrol cars now carry rifles for this specific scenario, handguns are meant for quick reaction. If you expect a running gun battle you bring a rifle

    That said, i love mine, and would trust my life to them. 8+1 rounds of fuddy five is nothing to scoff at, they are cool and fun to shoot.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >high level shooters

      what do you mean 'high level shooters' lol

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        High level competition is dominated by 1911s and 2011s same for centerfire bullseye.

        It's mostly cz75 derivatives, 1911s, 2011s and a few riced glock 34s

        https://i.imgur.com/MkZCYi8.png

        >since you have half the capacity of a glock, every round must count
        anyone have the "You will never reload your weapon in a firefight video or article?

        If you think you're gonna need 20+ rounds for a firefight, the fuck you doing bringing a sidearm, Bring a rifle. No need to gimp yourself trying to live a john wick fantasy

        Magdumping an unarmed suspect doesn't count as a firefight. Elijah "bullseye" Dickens used 10 9mm rounds at 80% accuracy to put down the incel at 40 yds, I'm sure 9 fuddy fives would have had the same effect. He didn't magdump, he went for Precision which is what counts, being able to put the hate on target.

        Can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight, and using support or cover doesn't dimish what he did.

        Same for that boomer in the church shooting, he domed the shooter with 1 long distance shot. If there are bystanders. I'd rather have whoever is doing the shooting firing accurately over volume of fire.

        Pigs are undertrained, which is why you see them magdumping and getting bullets all over, including bystanders

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not to split hairs but Wilson's headshot was roughly 15-20yds, not quite a long distance shot but still pretty great and not an easy one, anyways carry on

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's still an excellent shot, he had a sig p220 in fuddy five i believe, so it was also a DA

            Best way to train for that? Dot torture. Print some 8" circles on a4 paper and start at 10 yds.

            Start from concealment, hammer down for da, safety on for sa guns. Draw, fire 1 shoot, reholster and do it again. Now do it 100 times. You quickly notice mistakes, etc. As you improve and get faster you add complexity such as extra shots (transition from da to sa), move further. Add more targets, etc.

            The idea is to get fast on the draw and on landing that first round, the one that counts the most.

            Got it from some old boomer cop during a very small class and do it religiously since then. Nowadays i do either that or for accuracy 25 yds bullseye. It did help me improve a lot in competition, and i think those two things cover most handgun bases.

            Instead of a 100 rds at paper at 10 yds, make it a 100 full draw and fire

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >p226
              he said in an interview it's in treefiddysevensig

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my bad, still a DA single round headshot. Accuracy beats magdumping unless you're trying to achieve suppression

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                jawohl meine freunde no doubt

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >p226
              he said in an interview it's in treefiddysevensig

              it was a 229 in .357 Sig

            • 2 weeks ago
              BigC

              >That's still an excellent shot, he had a sig p220 in fuddy five i believe, so it was also a DA
              I guess I'll be the first person who owns a Sig to post here.
              10', 650lbs, picked up the MCX Spear and it's a perfect CCW for me.
              Feels great in my hand and disappears when I carry, even with fairly tight shirts.
              Personally I wouldn't go for a tinier double stack like the normal Rattler PCB or M4 just cause the extra grip doesn't print on me.
              Go fingerfuck some at your LGS if you get the chance.
              Obviously it depends what you want the gun for, but assuming you want a dedicated carry piece the Spear or Patrol would both be solid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shut the fuck up you gay namefag.

              • 2 weeks ago
                BigC

                rude. if you continue like that i'll report you to the fbi for felony threats online.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >since you have half the capacity of a glock, every round must count
      anyone have the "You will never reload your weapon in a firefight video or article?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anyone have the "You will never reload your weapon in a firefight video or article?
        these fags think they need to magdump 17 rounds

        if something is gonna take more than 8 rounds, just fucking run and get your rifle or get to safety

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >need

          listen dude just say you like 1911s, you don't need to say anything else to defend your choice. stop all this 'u dunt need' shit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, grandpa. Time to take your blood pressure meds and go to bed.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely not. Not even 2011s can be considered duty guns. No I don't care that a LEO agency chose the Staccatos as their carry gun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a 17 round glawk is perfectly adequate
      >a 17 round 1911 is not
      Thanks for confirming you’re a retard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are almost no double stack 1911s in the market with the exception of those made by RIA.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shifting goalposts
          Keep it coming smoothbrain

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I never shifted goalposts. Double stack 1911s are not real 1911s.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Double stack 1911s are not real 1911s.
              Lol. Lmao, even.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's retarded.
              >single stack Glocks aren't Glocks
              >Glocks in .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 10mm, etc aren't Glocks
              >Glocks that don't have 4.5 inch barrels aren't Glocks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Glocks in .40 S&W, .45 ACP, 10mm, etc aren't Glocks
                Yes

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Duty gun? no. CCW they're fine for. Long story short they dont handle exposure to grit, water spray(particularly sea or brackish), and neglect well. Making them comparatively a poor duty choice relative to the striker fired options on the market. Good 1911s are very reliable if you keep them decently clean and keep up on maintenance and lubrication, so if your definition of duty allows for that then they/re fine choices, but for a general duty use they're a very poor choice since your typical officer isnt going top be treating them that well. If youre riding a desk in an office though as security and consider that a duty position then they/re perfectly adequate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >they dont handle exposure to grit, water spray(particularly sea or brackish), and neglect well.
      Source? A scientific test that shows higher failure rates versus polymer pistols for instance

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Duty gun? no. CCW they're fine for. Long story short they dont handle exposure to grit, water spray(particularly sea or brackish), and neglect well. Making them comparatively a poor duty choice relative to the striker fired options on the market. Good 1911s are very reliable if you keep them decently clean and keep up on maintenance and lubrication, so if your definition of duty allows for that then they/re fine choices, but for a general duty use they're a very poor choice since your typical officer isnt going top be treating them that well. If youre riding a desk in an office though as security and consider that a duty position then they/re perfectly adequate.

        very tight (competition grade, race, gucci, etci) or poorly made 1911s can be jammomatics if not in perfect clean conditions, even the good ones sometimes need a break in period. That said, if you get a good SERVICE grade one, they are very reliable, they

        I'm a 1911 guy, and had one of my colts need about 500 rounds before it worked itself out. after that it's chewed a couple thousand rounds without issue. I live in the Florida coast BTW, if you want to take a gun into a boat or near the water, the fuck you taking a blued gun? parkerized, SS or even nickel plated is the way to go, and plenty of 1911s like that. I shoot my colts out in the woods a lot, and they work fine

        • 2 weeks ago
          BigC

          >I live in the Florida coast BTW,
          >I shoot my colts out in the woods a lot, and they work fine
          based cartel hitman.

          cocaine and party times will come to you, but only if you post 'Feed those gators, hitman' in this thread.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yep.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gay ass star. Makes me think of scene girls.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a friend who works for a super bumfuck county agency and he carries a 1911 as a duty gun. Mainly because he thinks they're cool. Its doable but theres more modern options that are purpose designed around 21st century duty use. As opposed to early 20th century combat service with all the technological and doctrinal differences that comes with. I carried Glocks as a duty gun because I worked for professional agencies that didnt let guys carry whatever the hell they wanted. They worked well, never had any issues. Neighboring depts carried Glock 21s which looked like cannons. I had a 22, which I think is dumb because .40 cal is a meme. 17 or 48 with a TLR is my preferred duty gun

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a life style gun, same as driving a classic car, or people that refuse to use smartphones, it's not as convenient as a modern gun, but if you see where it exceeds you won't want a modern gun at all because there are things that only a 1911 can give you

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      like what?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is a drill where you aim at the target, close your eyes, put one on the paper, and open your eyes again, there is one gun that whenever I open my eyes I always see the sight where I left them pointing at a new hole in the target, that among other things, it's the gun I'm the most confident in being able to perform with

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          you can't do that with other guns?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Cold? Barely, depends on how much shooting I've doing lately, when I'm warmed up I can make it pretty consistent with most full size handguns

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              i was asking cuz you said there were things only a 1911 could give you, and i was curious as to what that was compared to other guns.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's the shootability, just things like that, you start running drills and it's like it makes you a better shooter, I notice it the most when running something cold, and to me that's what counts the most

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >3lb gun that holds at most 10 rounds on your hip all day
    No

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the duty and who the carrier is. As far as "1911 platform" is concerned, CZ's are fuggin great and I would carry one any day.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean low capacity even for a 45, less reliable than any modern quality pistol.
    Good trigger...... So no. A cz97, HK USP or HK45, are all better

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >less reliable than any modern quality pistol.
      Spotted the noguns retard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My usp can't feed wadcutters, my 1911 can, I also can shoot the 1911 better, I know it has it's shortcomings, and for the most part I carry a g19… but If I had to take a 40 yards shot, I know what gun I would want in my hip, just saying

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    eeyup

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no bul armory edc commander length barrel
    so hard to buy from the garden gnomes what gives

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want a SA Operator(idk why they gave it such a shit name) badly, bros.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every gun named by Springfag has a shit name. The marketing focus group is entirely 13 year-olds. The SA-35 is the only exception, I was shocked it wasn't something like UltraMegaPower-35

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I was shocked it wasn't something like UltraMegaPower-35
        kek fair point. Aside from the shitty meme names are SA 1911's decent? I'm not trying to drop 3k on a 1911 but I want something decent, reliable and has a rail.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, Springfields are a decent choice in the $1000 range.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a big dude with cash to blow and don't mind clipping a couple of pounds to your belt -- and especially if you live in a state with cucked mag laws -- then it's still all right. Certainly better than a big-bore revolver. I carried one off and on for years, only permanently downshifted to a compact nine because one of my wrists started acting up and I prefer a gun I can use in my offhand.
    That said, starting from a scratch 1911 modernizing it is an expensive pain in the ass compared to most other pistols. More-modern 1911 derivatives with rails, ten-rounder mags, and red-dot slots are still substantially more-expensive than some of the more modern carry pistols that also come with them out of the gate. You need a robust optic and holster to go with it, which bumps up your carry load by a few more ounces -- though that weight is coming down rapidly -- and you absolutely >need< to cover the manual safety if you're carrying cocked-and-locked.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and you absolutely >need< to cover the manual safety if you're carrying cocked-and-locked.

      lol, ya because there's no grip safety or anything, retard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >lol, ya because there's no grip safety or anything, retard
        It digs into your body if you carry IWB on the right side and it constantly catches on shit on the left or in a shoulder rig. I also really, really like to know exactly what state my safeties are in when I'm carrying.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Get a holster from someone besides Uncle Mike.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but the fnx and usp beat them because of the double action, decocking, weight, and capacity.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So what are the good 1911 brands? What's the consensus on brands like Dan Wesson, Kimber, and the like?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RIA, Springfield, and Ruger make the best ~$1000 ones, I can’t offer any advice on the high end and custom ones.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Have any info on Tisas? Found a LGS that sells one for $399

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          turk shit but there's people here that will say they're as good as springfield, i'd just get a RIA myself

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is RIA trustworthy? From what I hear, they build their guns in the Philippines to keep costs down which is kinda 3rd world-y.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it's the cheapest reliable 1911 you can get, they're fine, just dont expect an outstanding fit and finish

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks, i'll look around for any spots that might have em cheap. Seems like they're everywhere.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks, i'll look around for any spots that might have em cheap. Seems like they're everywhere.

                Actually just found this. I guess this is a doublestack 1911? Think its a good purchase for its price?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                those are built on Caspian frames. little chunkier than a 2011, but perfectly serviceable.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              battlefield vegas said they last longer than any of their other 1911 brands

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kimber is lame because you can get better quality Springfields, Colts, RIA, or Tisas at the same or cheaper price. Dan Wesson is near-custom shop quality for between $1500 to $2000.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's bad about kimber?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bad QC, a lot of the problems in reliability people generally attribute to the 1911 come from Kimber, that basically fucked up the concept of mim parts for a generation.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like mine.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They work and can be reliable depending on quality and maintenance. So yes, they are still viable. 9mm JHP offers so many advantages as a duty/carry gun that the 1911 is a hard sell, but that's not your question.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a bad duty gun but honestly as much as I love 1911s and I think 45 is fun to shoot it just makes more sense to carry a double stack 9.

    Effectiveness just doesn't seem to be there, really with any caliber above .380 ACP honestly. Threats are stopped, statistically, within two to three rounds, on any common pistol caliber even through to .44 Mag. But that's the average, doesn't mean it goes that way with everyone. Consider the mall shooting the other day and how homie landed eight out of ten rounds. It's made me reconsider that indeed capacity is king.

    You can see videos on here where someone gets shot and they're still running, even firing back perhaps while spewing blood everywhere. The thing is that unless you hit someone in the brainpan then consider they'll only stop when they lose too much blood to function. Well exsanguination happens faster with more holes...

    I am hoping .30 Super Carry gains some legs. If it turns out to be basically between 380 and 9 effectively I'll buy it all day long for a CCW. I don't want a Nighthawk (like I could afford one anyway) or a Shield Plus or EZ.

    >tl;dr
    I do love me some 1911 in God's caliber, but a duty gun should just doesn't make sense in anything but double stack 9 these days.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >capacity is king because 8 shots put down a mass shooter

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          caught him with that lil bullet too!
          >Hey man nice shot what a good shot man

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          source plz

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            west freeway church shooting, december 2019

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, and he fired ten. What if eight didn't work? And even though it did, wouldn't you feel better with another seven to ten rounds extra? Plus the possibility of a spare magazine?

        There's plenty of times it's over in one, two or three rounds, which even a S&W Model 36 is gonna handle. Something is better than nothing, but if you can comfortably carry more why wouldn't you?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >plus the possibility of a spare magazine
          do 1911s not have magazines?
          no, evidence suggesting that 8 rounds is enough does not make me want to carry more than 8, and i carry 10 round magazines anyway
          maybe if you demonstrate a private citizen failing to defend themselves with 10 rounds i might feel compelled to carry more than that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no, evidence suggesting that 8 rounds is enough does not make me want to carry more than 8, and i carry 10 round magazines anyway
            >maybe if you demonstrate a private citizen failing to defend themselves with 10 rounds i might feel compelled to carry more than that
            agreed I carry a 10 rounder 9mm

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey I just bought that 1911

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >for military
    Too heavy, not enough ammo
    >for police
    Too heavy, not enough ammo
    >for CC
    On the heavy/bulky side but serviceable

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Itt

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im a huge 1911 fag, but the honest answer is no/ Capacity is king, and if youre LEO and have to draw a sidearm you want to have as much ammo in the fight as possible. Shits getting crazy out there and you might be running into multiple armed attackers with rifles. We stopped issuing revolvers for a reason
    for the military its even worse. If you have to resrot to your pistol then youre up shit creek. You want to have the best tools for the fight and the other benefits of a 1911, like a smooth SAO trigger or grip angle, you can find on another platform

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is no need for the 1911 to be stuck in the past. Its a fine duty gun and with some modernizations to the design (double stack, rail, optic cut) and proper manufacturing, they can be every bit the gun a tricked out glock is and just as reliable.

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What’s the better Springfield 1911, the Operator or the Emissary? I like the sights on the emissary more but the operator has better aesthetics

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >aesthetics
      kys

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe harder noguns

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The emissary looks too cool for me, between the triangular slide and the u dot iron sight. I like my operator and the red dots been cool, the sights are normal high dots so set up for a can

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who makes a good Stainless Steel 1911? I found one for Kimber and one thats $300 less from SDS. Guy at the counter said the SDS one is nice if I only go out shooting every other month and to otherwise get the Kimber Custom II.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ruger. SR1911.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ruger SR1911

        Damn, almost at the same time. Thanks lads i'll look around for one.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ruger SR1911

        [...]
        Damn, almost at the same time. Thanks lads i'll look around for one.

        Okay it's quite difficult for me to find an SR1911 from any trustworthy source. Any other suggestions for stainless steel 1911s?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you’re not going to sea with it I really don’t think you need stainless steel

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are right, but I do love the look of it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ruger SR1911

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this thread has legitimately converted me to the 1911 and .45 ACP, I’m never going back to glawks again

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Glawk didn't win two world wars.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they all fall to ball. hollow points only expand 9mm to almost .45 acp size holes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      heh, i was never into glocks in the first place. well, the longslide ones look kind of cool

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In a world where most cops have a 35% hit rate, a gun that's easier to shoot accurate like the 1911 will always be relevant

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >SAO
    >duty gun

    They weren’t even good duty guns in WWII. The army FM at the time even said to carry condition 3.

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The digits already have spoken

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot the pic like an idiot

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poopoo peepee

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Glockfags became the new 1911 crew a long time ago, that meme is kind of outdated

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ‘luv me 1911’s
    ‘luv me grip safety
    ‘luv me single action only
    ‘luv me John Moses Browning
    ‘ate me black pistols (not racis, just don like em)

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anyone carry a sig 238?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, but I carry a P938

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how is it? can you pocket carry it comfortably? i cant get a 938 due to the garden gnomed commie laws of kalifornia but im looking at a 238

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's pretty great. Sights are quick to line up, great trigger, and can be pocket carried comfortably, yeah. Had a few people try it and say it was snappy, but it seems fine to me. Anyway, that shouldn't be a problem for you if it's in .380.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just need it bros

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    anyone have any experience with guns with np3 finished components? looks cool

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thems some digits.OP.
    look im sorry but i just dont like the action or the disassembly ok?

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