>arabs suck at war
If that is true, what have they been lacking?
>high iq leadership and planning/tactics ?
>money/logistics ?
>equipment ?
>morale ?
>arabs suck at war
>arabs suck at war
If that is true, what have they been lacking?
>high iq leadership and planning/tactics ?
>money/logistics ?
>equipment ?
>morale ?
https://www.meforum.org/441/why-arabs-lose-wars
Seems like a meme waste of time read
>ask question
>get entire article answering it
Maybe tell us to answer in the form of tiktoks next time if you’re not happy zoomzoom
This article is kind of like the Art of war, sure its overused but its still is kind of good and holds up very well.
I'm not sure it's fair to call the answer overused when the question keeps popping up all the time.
Fair enough
yeah deadass its got more than like 20 words in it, i aint readin allat fr
you could apply the same reason to Russia and other backward country as well.
competency in warfare require a culture that both reward and encourage initiative at the lowest level.
a Military that's still stuck in rigid central planning and execution will inevitably be outplayed by a military that can response in real time by people at the front.
The Prussian Model was copied because it allowed Commanders to be free.
I feel like quite a few of those points in the article apply to not only arabs but quite a lot of other cultures including amerimut and europoor cultures.
War is many thing.
1. Culture - If you have backwards cultural practices and beliefs, it will stall and hold the military back.
2. Logistics - If you cannot feed or equip your army, then you have no point in soldiers.
Arabs have a culture of not sharing knowledge and having petty feuds over groups or clans or families. This culture also leads to strings of abuse that other cultures, mostly in the West would call out for being wrong. Logistics also plays a part as shit gets funneled to people of position rather than need, resulting in certain groups being underprivileged and in need.
This is why you send civilians and military officials to the West (If you can: United States) second best (United Kingdom or France) to learn from them and copy them. But if you can't fix culture or logistics you will lose a war, not even to a stalemate.
I heard someone say that arab armies actually had relatively good logistics because all the nepohire failsons took the cool combat commands and left the boring logistics commands to the nobodies who got their positions by being competent.
>high iq leadership and planning/tactics ?
they actually had a good leader and soviet-trained tactics for the yom kippur war, which was the war that got them closest to actually winning
the problem was a lack of connective tissue between tactics on the front and strategy at the top, resulting in a lack of tempo to press their advantages
>money/logistics ?
>equipment ?
>morale ?
they were actually well equipped with the then-modern T-62 and other top shelf SAM batteries that they put to good use
Tl;dr their culture, nobody wants to be the mechanic and the guy in charge won’t ever let the mechanic do his thing
They are retarded and too centralized to form a competent military. It doesn't help that their culture encourages corruption.
Their culture made them great at fighting feudal wars due to how bickering and disfractured they were, allowing every battle to turn into a blood feud against the enemy leading to mass commitment. Which is how due to their low population they took on many giants of the age. This infighting doesnt help in any way when it comes to mathematical driven wars where strategy goes beyond the battlefield.
Basically araps instead of retreating to fight another day when the odds are against them, will suicide their armies into unwinnable positions to save face for their clan and group
>>high iq leadership and planning/tactics ?
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Yes.
rolling
Rollan
>third world, low IQ led by thugs
>they fail at war
War is a racket. Pax Americana can barely stand on itself, I laugh at these warring peoples and pity their populace. Any offensive operation against a sovereign nation today should be regarded as it is, poorly trained killers due to irreversible corruption being led by people wanting to rob your shit.
>Any offensive operation against a sovereign nation today should be regarded as it is, poorly trained killers due to irreversible corruption being led by people wanting to rob your shit.
this has literally always been the status quo
Thanks for agreeing wiht me
Proper training and equipment. Look at iraqi CTS. They're probably the single most experienced unit in the world right now (whats left of them). All they needed was american training.
Seriously?
He said they were experienced, not competent.
Yeah, fighting the same 5,000 goatfuckers in the same place for several years has got to generate some experience.
>at war
at modern war
and it's becuase of iq - no innovation/adaptation of tactics, all industrial development led by others
Horrendous officer culture based around a more self centered arab culture. They have the heart to fight but they can't organize themselves properly enough outside of the times to fight to be an effective force due to tribal infighting.
They suck.. n
good replies but you're all missing the key point needed for any successful military operations
the will to fight
if your army doesn't BELIEVE in why it's fighting, it's going to be half-assed at best, no matter how good the logistics or leadership is
you have to want victory, to want to seek out and destroy the enemy, to want to take land and put the enemy to rout; if the average infantryman just doesn't give a fuuuuuck about the country they're fighting for, then that's the kind of results you'll get
>Brings up trannies and morons out of nowhere
it's not out of nowhere, nobody wants to fight for this shithole anymore and it's going to get worse
>out of nowhere
Go outside gay and open your eyes.
Don’t you mean they suck at modern war? They did spread Islam through conquest with hundreds of years of victories
Islam spread more than just conquest. This is ignoring centralization of government and religious order over more divided faiths.
It's like how Christendom replaced the old beliefs of the Romans. At first it existed beside it before becoming a religious order that suppressed and terminated the other beliefs.