Anyone else lament the loss of the main way to buy/sell locally online?

Anyone else lament the loss of the main way to buy/sell locally online?
Now it's back to small statewide boards that are butt and noone knows about.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, Ok, and Frick ya mudda

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Armslist requires payment which in turn requires you to sign up for an account with personal information
    > Gunlistings dead since Feb 28 for some unknown reason, owner of sight doesn't give a frick I guess
    > Tacswap is very small and niche
    > Facebook outright stopped any private sales posts and groups, any new ones made just get deleted
    > Arfcom is nationwide, not just confided by the state for exchanges
    > Not to mention the new rule ATF made so no one wants to take the fall for private sales anyway, requiring a 4473 that will prob be sent to ATF offices anyway for their "not a database bro"

    Private sales are dead, bro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      G2
      What atf rule

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Beginning May 20, there is a "rule" from the ATF stating that private sales are pretty much illegal, because if you yield a profit from selling your firearm, they view that now as being "in the business." If you're viewed as being in the business, even 1 firearm sold privately, is apparently being in the business and needing an FFL. So the only way to sell your private firearm is to bring it to an FFL.

        The rule is so vague that it's being challenged in Texas in the 8th district federal court. You need to look it up, it's fricking crazy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seems both unenforceable and irrelevant

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Holy frick you morons again.
          >stating that private sales are pretty much illegal,
          No
          >because if you yield a profit from selling your firearm, they view that now as being "in the business."
          No.
          All the ATF rule did was codify the criteria they were already informally using to determine whether someone was "in the business" of selling firearms. Read the actual rule instead of watching clickbait goytube videos. If you are repeatedly buying and selling the same model of gun for profit, telling people you can buy more guns to sell them, repeatedly and continuously buying and then relisting guns for sale via some advertising service or website, or buying and selling large amounts of guns in a short period of time, then the ATF considers you to be in the business of selling firearms and will try and prosecute you. They do not now nor have they ever considered selling a single gun that you got bored with for a net profit to be in the business of selling guns. In fact the second half of the rule that you morons didn't read explicitly exempts that behavior from being presumed as being engaged in the business of buying and selling guns. The great irony is they kind of WERE effective in killing private sales because most gun owners (like you) are blithering morons who will believe whatever they see on the internet without verifying it for themselves.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >THE ATF COULDN'T ENFORCE.....
            untill they do. very, very selectively, and against you.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Who are you quoting?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yea

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/

    this was good but glows to high shit; even more than all of /k/. better dead than fed

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Wrong thread?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nope, assmad "bot"

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss armslist but at least I live in TX and have Texas gun trader, it’s pretty top tier

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've got Florida gun trader, same owner. It's crap and has had serious security leaks.

      Beginning May 20, there is a "rule" from the ATF stating that private sales are pretty much illegal, because if you yield a profit from selling your firearm, they view that now as being "in the business." If you're viewed as being in the business, even 1 firearm sold privately, is apparently being in the business and needing an FFL. So the only way to sell your private firearm is to bring it to an FFL.

      The rule is so vague that it's being challenged in Texas in the 8th district federal court. You need to look it up, it's fricking crazy.

      Making a profit is rare so I'm good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the various state groups ive been a part of are either crackheads with stolen shit, or cops blatantly trying to entrap you the entire time and spamming the inbox after their ad that truly wasn't too good to be true, turned out ot be a scam, or when you post to sell stuff and all of a sudden there are 50 "hello fellow white, can you cut my shotgun barrel to 10 inches, I'll give you pills if you do".

        I took many pictures of my dogs and cats buttholes and sent them to the spammers.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Anyone else lament the loss of the main way to buy/sell locally online?
    I lament the death of a centralized marketplace. Armslist was always shitty but the sheer volume of listings meant you could always find a diamond in the shit pile or get someone to buy your garbage off you. Know everything is local forums and niche listing websites and you have to check 20 different websites to see if anyone has what you want and make 20 different listings to get your shit sold.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seriously. The forums are smaller, less traffic, etc. I love forums but the only big Florida one is more gulf coast and panhandle.

      https://i.imgur.com/0QjuY9e.jpeg

      Holy frick you morons again.
      >stating that private sales are pretty much illegal,
      No
      >because if you yield a profit from selling your firearm, they view that now as being "in the business."
      No.
      All the ATF rule did was codify the criteria they were already informally using to determine whether someone was "in the business" of selling firearms. Read the actual rule instead of watching clickbait goytube videos. If you are repeatedly buying and selling the same model of gun for profit, telling people you can buy more guns to sell them, repeatedly and continuously buying and then relisting guns for sale via some advertising service or website, or buying and selling large amounts of guns in a short period of time, then the ATF considers you to be in the business of selling firearms and will try and prosecute you. They do not now nor have they ever considered selling a single gun that you got bored with for a net profit to be in the business of selling guns. In fact the second half of the rule that you morons didn't read explicitly exempts that behavior from being presumed as being engaged in the business of buying and selling guns. The great irony is they kind of WERE effective in killing private sales because most gun owners (like you) are blithering morons who will believe whatever they see on the internet without verifying it for themselves.

      Sounds par for the course. I figure this stems from all the guys you see buying and selling constantly at shows and stuff without an ffl.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fricking wild that so many 3 letters can get away with blatantly illegal overreach with almost zero repercussions.
    Wish our "justice" system actually worked so these un-patriotic frickwads could be held accountable for once.

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