Any guides on making custom flares for Orion signal devices? Shits expensive

Any guides on making custom flares for Orion signal devices? Shits expensive

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many flares are you shooting? It's expensive because it is a fairly low volume production and not cheap to make. DIY flares can be done, but like ... if you are shooting more than one a week, I have to ask why. The only instances I can think of somebody shooting enough flares for the costs to become prohibitive are cases where the flares are covered by company anyway.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would like the knowledge, if I can make a poor man's version I'll be alright

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      IRL pvp. We signal to begin and end games

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look up fireworks communities/resources.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly don't have the knowledge you're asking for. But, I'm willing to speculate on one possibility ... which would require further research to determine how viable it might be.

    I'd look into flare guns that fire 12 gauge shotgun shells. Ideally it would be heavy duty with a metal barrel, something like military grade survival equipment rather than a one-off emergency use plastic gun. Even more ideally, it could also fire 3" and maybe 3 1/2" shells. Or, buy a cheap bubba single barrel or double barrel beater and cut it down.

    You'll need a shotgun shell reloader. An elaborate one if you think you'll load a lot of shotgun shells at a time (I used to do 500 on a Friday night to shoot competition skeet on weekends, for example). Otherwise, simple reloaders that you can do a couple dozen shells in a casual evening. You might use the reloader for all sorts of other shotshell shenanigans, since you're already playing around with this experiment.

    Learn to thermite, and compact it/glue the powder into a solid slug. The wad in your shotshell can be minimal, just some (waxed) paperboard. You'll want strips of magnesium, which you embed in the slug of thermite. I'd imagine ~50%/75% penetration, with a dozen or so millimeters projecting out of the bottom. Thread that strip through the wad into the shotgun powder.

    All theoretical, of course, but ideally the powder will ignite the magnesium, launch the thermite slug at fairly high velocity, along the way the magnesium ignites the thermite. If you want color other than bright white, dope the thermite with metals &/or chemicals for appropriate color. Look up what they use in fireworks for different colors.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >flare gun capable of firing 12 gauge shotgun shells
      smoothbore pistol, AOW

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want to assume that just any flare gun can fire just any 12 ga shell. Some are restricted to 2" or 2 1/2" shells, some aren't true 12 ga, plastic one-off flare guns are very unlikely to handle a full charge of 2 3/4" or 3" 12 ga pressure. There are several contextual factors that have to be accounted for. If a magnesium-thermite slug can be developed for 12 ga, the weight of that slug and how it's seated in the shell will affect the total pressure and its distribution curve over time. Turning a flare gun into a bomb and igniting it in your hand could have somewhat detrimental effects. I try to remember that I'm posting bullshit in the tard-o-sphere. Any basement dweller might try any of this shit without thinking through all the dependencies &/or cascading factors. I merely posted some personal speculation of one avenue to explore & research, the one I would start with if I wanted to try this. But, I sure as frick wouldn't do it unless I had very thoroughly mapped out several dozen ways this could go incredibly wrong.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          12 gauge flares are tapered, and 12 gauge flare guns are unable to chamber 12 gauge 2 3/4 inch shells. this is by design, as any 12 gauge flare gun able to chamber a standard shotgun shell is an NFA item
          picrel, my 26.5mm to 12 gauge flare adapter, with a standard 12 gauge shell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      picrel is what the unignited magnesium-thermite slugs look like in the russian thermite bombs. Find a way to make them to fit in 12 ga shells. A plastic wad with shot cup would protect a barrel during firing, if that's even needed, should you be using a decent gun you care about. Experiment with powder loads to see how much loft you can get out of different guns.

      If you're feeling really brave and particularly stupid, and you know for an established fact that the gun you're using can handle the insane extra pressure, you can consider doping your shotgun powder with a grain or so of rifle or pistol powder ... just start very cautiously and use slower burning pistol/rifle powder with reduced a measure of shotgun powder. Maybe start off with half a normal shotgun powder measure and a quarter grain of slow(er) burning rifle powder. Research handloading data, get advice from experienced handloaders. It will be relatively easy to blow up a flare gun, and almost as easy to blow up a shotgun that isn't designed for extreme magnum loads. So, think carefully how much you value your hands and your eyes.

      Bonus round: since you already have magnesium, you can sand som eof it down into a fine powder and mix small amounts into your powder. Should get quite the impressive "dragon's breath" muzzle flash to launch your special handloads.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was going to see about using fireworks as the ignition, don't have ready access to gun powder,.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          do you have access to saltpeter, sulfur, and charcoal?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            charcoal is easy to get, the others I would have to probably order. At least search into it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it's best to order online, but you should still be able to get both at the gardening store
              potassium nitrate is found in some stump removers and sulfur is sold as dusting sulfur

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have been searching online as of now, would saltpeter be the same as curing products?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                saltpeter is potassium nitrate, or KNO3

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you can consider doping your shotgun powder with a grain or so of rifle or pistol powder
        Jesus Christ son, are you mentally moronic? Shotgun powders and pistol powder have the same burn rates, they just tend to be bigger flakes so they don't work around the wad. With some exceptions, they're interchangeable if you can make it work. Rifle powders are only going to slow things down.
        Blow yourself up all you want, but stop talking as if you know anything.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP this guy is talking directly out of his arse on almost all points. If he's correct about something, it's entirely accidental.
      You're looking at a black powder shell launching a firework. The primer and a small amount of BP are your lofting charge and fuze ignition, you will not need a metal barrel if you're sensible and you can reload a shotshell with a nail and a couple of bits of wood.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm most likely going that route, Especially if I'm going to be making/experimenting with stuff.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Start off with a light dummy load (cardboard tube with just a fuze to check ignition) and increase weight gradually to find your payload. Then work out what the firework is going to be once you know how much mass you have to play with. Word of caution, you're going to want a sturdier casing than commercial fireworks, you really do not want flash powder touching off in your barrel.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thinking about casting a metal shell that can handle and be reloaded.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can still buy brass hulls but the plastic ones will be fine for dozens of shots. It's only a tiny lofting charge.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hell, you could 3D print a perfectly usable hull for the couple of thousand PSI you're looking at.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd have to find the schematics, as for material would a thicker plastic or metal work?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's a dude around here who prints Snider cases, look for that. Metal isn't your friend, plastic shrapnel is much better if anything goes bad.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you for the point in the right direction,

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why shoot flares when you can shoot fireworks?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    might finally be a real-world use for a Judge

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      heard they were shit though and hard to find in Canada.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Greased Geese

      I don't think there's 410 flares or if they are they're not inexpensive.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        .45LC flares exist, but really if you're going that small one of the pen-striker types is cheap and works.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ask around your local marina, boaters need to cycle them out as they expire. Sometimes they save them up for "training" but will almost always have excessive amounts if they don't just throw them away.

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