Any advice for someone going to his first gun show in a couple of weeks?

Any advice for someone going to his first gun show in a couple of weeks? I'm primarily hoping for historical type guns, but I'm really just browsing for cool stuff, and would like to know about anything to be aware of or cautious about.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    doug

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no homemade jerky and/or pickles stalls
      I haven't been to a gun show in years, have things changed that much? Frick. There was a stall at the yearly show at my state fairgrounds that had the best goddamn venison jerky I've ever tasted.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I wish I had even half those stalls.
      Around here it’s
      >tables of strikershit
      >the veteran group that’s been raffling off the exact same gun (I checked the serial number) for the last five years
      >the local politician that has a booth but is never there
      >middle aged women hawking MLM products
      >The guy with tons of Chinese knockoff optics
      >woman selling gutter guards
      >local car dealership trying to sell their “””””””custom””””””””” truck for fifty thousand over what it’s actually worth
      >chinesium knives as far as the eye can see
      >the guy selling toys for some reason
      >gel blaster shill

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>the guy selling toys for some reason
        I was going to say, the dudes selling things like airsoft & RC toys seem ever-present.

        It's a GUN show you morons. People selling toys, jerky, as-seen-on-TV gimmicks, etc do not belong there. Knife an militaria/surp sellers grudgingly accepted, at least those are somewhat related.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not even airsoft. It’s straight up toy crossbows and shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they usually have slingshots and gel blasters too. It's never the higher end stuff, it's always the cheapest of the cheap. It often crosses over with people selling mallninja crap too--both metal and plastic toy swords, shurikens, etc. They often also sell stun guns, batons, etc. All of it is Chinesium.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          jerky belongs everywhere motherfricker

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Jerky is indeed awesome, but why would you overpay to a bunch of gunshow boomers when you could be making better stuff yourself?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>the guy selling toys for some reason
        I was going to say, the dudes selling things like airsoft & RC toys seem ever-present.

        It's a GUN show you morons. People selling toys, jerky, as-seen-on-TV gimmicks, etc do not belong there. Knife an militaria/surp sellers grudgingly accepted, at least those are somewhat related.

        they usually have slingshots and gel blasters too. It's never the higher end stuff, it's always the cheapest of the cheap. It often crosses over with people selling mallninja crap too--both metal and plastic toy swords, shurikens, etc. They often also sell stun guns, batons, etc. All of it is Chinesium.

        It’s not even airsoft. It’s straight up toy crossbows and shit.

        There's a gun show in Allentown PA that is run by a historical firearms society that has no unrelated vendors, in fact you have to be part of their club to even sell there. It's full of old guys but still more kino than most other shows.
        The first stand in the door had a p30 grendel with an outrageous price, I asked the guy about it and he said "that's so the monkeys off the street don't buy it, if your interested it's [reasonable price]"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I never got good deals at the forks show though, since everyone there had good knowledge, anything good would get snatched up on setup day/first hour members only early opening
          Nice place to go window shopping though and the farmers market was also sweet place to pick up some pastries afterward

          I had much better luck with Oaks despite it being a bigger more normalgay stereotyped gunshow

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't been to that exact show but I've been to others that either don't allow non-gun sellers or they separate the non-gun tables to a different part of the convention center so you don't have to browse that stuff if you don't want to. I always appreciate those kinds of shows. But I still maintain that gun shows have gone seriously downhill since the internet became big. It's still possible to find amazing deals, as it is online too, but it's just a lot harder.

            I usually find a deal or two. It's always from the guys with just one or two tables selling from personal collections. I snagged this snider for 350, it even has a decent bore. My buddy got a type 44 carbine for a decent price last year as well.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              That's not bad at all, but when I said "amazing deal" I'm talking about getting a $10k gun for $500. That wasn't unheard of before the internet.

              You might find some cool stuff, you might not. It's all luck. Most of the time I go to gun shows, I'm hoping to stumble upon something uncommon that normally only shows up on Gunbroker auctions, and for something out of production, I would rather buy it in person than on an online auction.

              If you just want "something uncommon" and you don't really care what, then gun shows are great for that. If you have some specific model you're looking for? That's a lot less likely.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I haven't been to that exact show but I've been to others that either don't allow non-gun sellers or they separate the non-gun tables to a different part of the convention center so you don't have to browse that stuff if you don't want to. I always appreciate those kinds of shows. But I still maintain that gun shows have gone seriously downhill since the internet became big. It's still possible to find amazing deals, as it is online too, but it's just a lot harder.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Any luck with oaks? Is it worth the admission?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oaks is a pretty good show, i go every time. I have friends come from out of state for it, too.
            last time i got an old sears side by side 12ga for 200 bucks otd and a .357mag lee loader for 20.
            avoid ronnie, he's a israelite.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yea oaks is pretty good just for the sheer size. There are plenty of crap stands but there are also stands like Sarco and Tony's custom uppers. Also the jerky guy with the Nazi stuff is pretty hilarious.

            https://i.imgur.com/VQc3zXW.jpg

            Oaks is a pretty good show, i go every time. I have friends come from out of state for it, too.
            last time i got an old sears side by side 12ga for 200 bucks otd and a .357mag lee loader for 20.
            avoid ronnie, he's a israelite.

            Is Ronnie the guy who got kicked out of a gun club for going hog wild with a ma deuce?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              ronnie is that guy with all of the tables to the right down towards the end when you walk in. crew cut, glasses, kind of spergy. he's a nice enough guy but his prices are lmao and he'll lowball the shit out of you. its a shame because he's one of a few regular vendors that actually has neat stuff for sale
              off the top of my head:
              >$200 sks star magazine
              >$500 new england arms single shot
              >$1000 rasheed w/o bayonet (which he recently raised to 1200. he was also telling me that a Hakim could easily be found for 1k with sling and bayonet)
              for a while i was looking to source a hakim stock for a project, and he spun this whole story about having a contact in the CIA who makes reproduction stocks, but he cant put me in contact with him right now because he's in Bolivia. asked at the next show and now the guy was in a car crash and it'll be a while etc etc
              matt at the sarco booth said he could find me one, picked it up in Easton the next week for $200.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kek that is the guy. His whole clan got banned from a range near reading because they brought a full auto m2 and left non members blast away with it unattended and sent a pretty serious ricochet into a neighbors house. Now you can't shoot 50 bmg there.... I'll see if my buddy still has the email about the incident.
                And yea I needed some ak parts and ask him about a bolt carrier and spring in one of his boxes and he wanted like 80 bucks for them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >woman trying to sell shitty chinese stun guns
      >has a demo unit in hand at all times to make the noise
      >can be heard from any point inside of the gun show
      >BZZZZZZZZT

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >boomer selling spent LAW tubes
      I haven't seen one for years. Last I saw was one with case and sling for under $50. Now internet moron hype pricing makes them $250+. Feels bad.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All the professional vendors make all the good deals between themselves the hour before the show opens to the public. You are going to be left with table upon table of strikershit plastic pistols and beef jerky. Enjoy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Gun shows have sucked since the invention of the internet. The good deals are gone for two reasons. First, dealers can now easily sell online, so if they had something cool there is a 99% chance someone else found it before you did. Second, thanks to Google, it's rare for dealers to mis-identify shit anymore. Anyone can search for the words on the side of a gun and find out what it's worth.

      There's also this. Even if one of the dealers managed to find something great the night before the show and it never got listed online, chances are one of the other dealers there will recognize the deal and will have bought it before the doors even open.

      Most likely there will be no good deals, just overpriced non-gun bullshit, like jerky and toys. Absolutely have cash if you plan on buying anything, nobody wants to haggle with some moron and then pay credit card fees on top of that.
      You MIGHT get lucky and find some obscure part you need. You MIGHT get lucky and find a good deal on a gun you want, but these are unlikely. Expect to be disappointed so you don't waste your money on overpriced crap.

      It IS an opportunity to get to look at a lot of other guns your LGS might not have, so take advantage of that.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    look at bores with a bright light and look for pitting

    if they wont let you handle the gun, avoid them

    don't go for what they shove in your face, odds are its their hopeful seller and that can be bad if they funnel you

    but mostly go early in the show to get to good stuff first, or go late on the last day when they are desperate to get rid of product

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bring cash, don't be that gay who has to go to the ATM.
    Walk quickly with a purpose and most of the trash vendors will leave you alone, they prey on the lazy and those who aimlessly meander table to table.
    Some dealers are sticklers for no haggling, "this is a business not a yard sale"
    The easiest haggling is to just ask for the cash out the door price, some dealers will have the otd price on the tag, others (usually the better priced ones) will add theft and transfer fees.
    You probably won't find super hot deals on ammo but it's generally slightly cheaper than online.
    The real deals tend to be in reloading supplies, the shows near me have multiple guys that offload estate sale hauls and one guy gets factory second bullets cheap.
    I like to show up early as other anons have mentioned to try and get the good deals before they walk.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You might find some cool stuff, you might not. It's all luck. Most of the time I go to gun shows, I'm hoping to stumble upon something uncommon that normally only shows up on Gunbroker auctions, and for something out of production, I would rather buy it in person than on an online auction.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get on wikiarms to see the real prices of the guns you see for sale. For some lolz tell others about the site when they show interest in a gun, preferrably in front of the dealer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I get so much joy out of pulling truegunvalue prices up in front of dealers. I've saved so many father/son duos with a loose checkbook from shelling out $800 for a wartime beat to shit Mosin, it's not even funny. No, I don't care if boomer dealers think I'm an butthole. Half of them have Biden's memory and will forget who I am when I put on a baseball cap and change my shirt for day two of the show lmao.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Milsurps are good to find there as well as some accessories and small parts. Don't be afraid to haggle anything. It's not like you'll see them again cause gun shows are generally pretty lame.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All of these strategies have worked for me in the past, but be realistic too:

    Cash is king. Only use cards on smaller stuff you don't mind paying full price for, or you don't mind being raeped by CC fees.

    Show that you are an aggressive haggler, even if you have to be a bit of an butthole. Boomers think they can con younger people because they believe we are all pussies. Everything is a competition to them, like two silverback gorillas beating their chests in the fricking jungle. Speak confidently, make eye contact, and make an offer *YOU* feel is reasonable. When they see you're a person who thinks things over and a serious buyer who shows restraint, they *might* be willing to negotiate. Speaking of which...

    Know what the frick you're talking about. You should be reading books and scouring old forum posts with good information from other collectors and owners about the exact sort of guns you want. This applies to everything, not just milsurp. As you learn more, someone else knows less. Sometimes that person is both a moron and a gunshow vendor with a killer price on a rare item they have no real clue about.

    Having cash visibly in hand does weird things to the brain when people are trying to sell stuff. I have watched vendors with "FIRM" price tags on various guns cave to a guy cycling through hundred dollar bills in his hands. Remember, this is a mind game and sometimes you come out ahead.

    If you can travel easily and afford the gas, drive to shows in states where people are fricking poor and the GDP sucks. I live in North Carolina, I've scored on milsurps you'd pay 30% more for in upstate NY where I grew up. It's dope, but I get that this is also not realistic for everyone.

    Finally, pay the beef jerky guy a visit before you leave. Some of them have elk, caribou, gator, and other exotic shit. I never leave a show totally disappointed because I always buy a bag of jerky.

    Good luck.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Drive 500 miles to save $300 on a gun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Black person I said be realistic. That point applies most to people who live near the border of an adjacent state and/or have a car with great gas mileage, not Texans who drive four hours to the next fricking county.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Be friendly but be firm, if these boomers think you're some pussy homosexual they will take you for a ride, and if they don't like you they will give you a shit deal.
    Do not trust anything that someone says about the gun that they are selling. If you can't first verify everything yourself, you don't know enough and should exercise caution. The best scenario is when YOU know what you are buying, and the seller doesn't.
    Do not buy anything brand new. If you can buy it online, buy it online.
    Eat before you go, because the biggest israelites at the gun show are always the food sellers.
    Gun shows are done in cash. Most places there will not have a credit card reader, and god forbid any of these boomers know what Zelle or Cashapp is.
    Know your sellers, these are the typical types of people you will run into:
    >A mexican guy named Raul/Armando/Eduardo
    Do not buy anything from this guy, he is doing reselling/dropshipping of chinese garbage and/or cheap shitty 9mm handguns he bought from RSR to people that can't pass background checks
    >A dude in their late 40s to early 50s that doesn't know what they're looking at
    You will find some cool things. Ask questions about a thing. Prod, and if they seem to have no clue, keep asking more questions. If you catch them with their pants down and it becomes clear they have no idea what they're selling, you can lowball.
    >Old ass boomers that are grumpy, hard to work with, and lonely as frick
    This is where the deals grow.
    With boomers you cannot act like a know-it-all or a smartass. Ask questions, and answer with more questions. Listen, and follow up with "wow that's cool!" etc etc. If you come off like a gangbanger they will not sell anything to you. These guys are basically slowly rotting away so if you acknowledge their existence for long enough they will dump shit onto you for cheap or for free. I've gotten a free M1 carbine this way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The best scenario is when YOU know what you are buying, and the seller doesn't.
      I'd go so far as to say the ONLY time you should be buying is if you know more than the seller.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >With boomers you cannot act like a know-it-all or a smartass
      You can, if you have the knowledge to back up what you're saying. But if you frick up then they aren't listening to a word you're saying.

  10. 1 month ago
    1-Alpha-Bravo-Foxtrot

    The only thing worth going to a gun show for these days is the beef jerky.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lower your expectations. If your expectations are already low, lower them some more.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Live in the midwest. Couple semi-annual gun shows nearby. Been going for over twenty years, and I've never bought a gun from one, once. That said, I have come close. Most of the old fricks are there with the same shit year after year, and don't seem to care if they sell anything or not. I usually just shoot the shit with them and move on. You will sometimes see deals on oddball stuff. Had a guy who had a table full of nice air guns one year. Air Arms, Feiwerkbau, etc. If you're knowledgeable about older sporting/fudd arms, you can score some deals, especially on shotguns. Model 12s, Auto 5s, etc. Stuff made under retail store names. Sears, J.C. Higgins, Western Auto, etc. Older defunct Euro brands, too.

    Honestly, I mostly just go there to fingerfrick shit in person that I otherwise wouldn't normally see, and network a bit with the private sellers who might sell me interesting shit in the future. Also jerky.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I found two pre-64 Model 12s for $700, at my local gun show. one has a shitty aftermarket raised rib, choke, and rubber buttpad. but the other is completely original.
      a couple years ago I grabbed an original Belgian made Auto 5 for $400.

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