Hello /k/,
I want to get a 17HMR rifle to hunt small vermin and to be a cool forever gun. Remembering the brand Anschutz from Golgo 13, I looked on their website and they seem pretty nice with a premium price. However, I ask what makes these rifles different or $1000+ superior to a CZ 457 and its variants? Would love to hear your experiences with both platforms or even another brand which uses 17HMR.
you don't need an anschütz unless you're trying to be a competition shooter and (You) would be much better served with a normal rifle, a nice scope+mount, some ammo and a sling
Not what he asked homosexual. Don't post just to post.
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Suck a dick. Adults are talking here..
>Anschutz
This guy is telling you your answer without actually wording it as such.
You're retarded if you can't figure out the answer is the answer, anon.
Anschütz is a competition brand. They are rather nicely assembled and quality machines, but they're only intended for precision shooting in sterile environments. I don't remember their appearance in Golgo 13, specifically, but if he used any, it's just for the meme of
>super secret agent assassin man would only use the best precision tool for the job
That, plus .22 (which the bulk of Anschütz comp rifles you'll find are chambered in) is a staple of the old Cold War spook aesthetic, so it'd fit.
tl;dr Anschütz isn't for hunting small vermin on your land. They're for using a scope or globe sights to print tiny sighting groups and then landing ten or twenty perfect bullseyes with.
Usually decked out like picrel.
>Note the brand of rifle the shooter in picrel is using, by the way.
That shit looks so gay. At least give it a five round mag.
>That shit looks so gay
As someone who's first trigger time behind a firearm came from doing smallbore competition with an Anschütz from like the 1990s...it is a little.
I'll never forget my first time getting excited to shoot RIFLES only to find that I had to load my own block with .22 rounds, and manually feed that shit myself, I was more than a little bummed out.
All that said, it still remains some of the most satisfying and enjoyable shooting I've done, and I've looong since moved up to center-fire precision shooting.
It's a shame it's not a more popular sport in the states. It's an *excellent* way to bring younger boys and girls into shooting while also teaching real, solid basics of marksmanship and getting actual trigger time.
Also, they'd need to be a minimum of 10 round mags, and you'd probably only load them after you've shot your sighters. You're usually shooting at 10 or 20 shots for record, see picrel for a typical 50ft target. The two center targets are for sighters.
>However, I ask what makes these rifles different or $1000+ superior to a CZ 457 and its variants?
Build quality and scale increase the price - but for a hunting rifle, it's not worth it.
>Anschütz is a competition brand
No, they have a specific hunting lineup and have a good following among German fudds. The rimfire hunting guns are quite accurate, sure, but they're not competition rifles - unless you use one for silhouette, in which case they are the prime choice. However, in PRS they're about evenly matched with a CZ 457, if not beaten by them. Personally, if you wanted a .17HMR, I'd buy a CZ and make sure to also buy a .22 barrel for cheap practice.
>However, in PRS they're about evenly matched with a CZ 457, if not beaten by them.
I guess CZs are more popular on the Euro scene, I typically only ever saw Anschütz at competitions here.
>I typically only ever saw Anschütz at competitions here.
You're in the US? And do you mean PRS competitions, or traditional static rifle shooting?
>You're in the US?
Guilty as charged. And I'm talking about static rifle shooting.
Ah yeah, in static rifle disciplines, ze Germans still dominate: Anschütz, Walther, Feinwerkbau are just in another league.
In more dynamic competitions, Anschütz repeaters have a decent place alongside CZ 455/457. Precision on the latter usually exceeds that of the shooter, so why bother spending more? Might as well get you a nice chassis for that CZ instead, that's probably better for score.
As for OP's use case, either will be fine but obviously the CZ will be cheaper (better for banging around in the woods) and comes with quick swap barrels, so it's probably a better choice. If I had the money I'd buy an Anschutz, but I don't so I have a 455.
Thanks for this info, anon. I'll keep an eye out for CZs, I've been itching to jump back into the competitive precision game and something a bit more dynamic than what I was used to seems more appealing. I'll look into the Anschütz offerings for PRS simply because I still can't separate the brand from the image in my head of delicate, static rifle darlings.
>it ends with the employee with a grudge swaps the prized bowling ball with a bomb and kills everyone except G13.
>It was a .308 converted to 30-06 by Dave as well
I remember this one, somehow missed that it was an Anschütz, and the fact it was converted to fucking .30-06 lmao.
I lied. I misremembered the chapter but he still used on in the one aforementioned, just not named.
The chapter where it shines is chapter 12
https://mangadex.org/chapter/38e844a1-4afb-473f-93d0-43c3486fe950/46
>https://mangadex.org/chapter/38e844a1-4afb-473f-93d0-43c3486fe950/46
>You can even see how the action has been modified to accommodate .30-06
There's reasons I love Japanese machine-autism.
Thanks for the replies. I saw the quick change barrel on the CZ 457 and now I'm sold on that, lol. Thanks for educating me on these neat rifles
>I don't remember their appearance in Golgo 13, specifically, but if he used any...
I think it was the one where he shot a pilot from a plane, the one where it ends with the employee with a grudge swaps the prized bowling ball with a bomb and kills everyone except G13. It was a .308 converted to 30-06 by Dave as well
I own three .17hmr rifles and honestly I think there's a LOT of diminishing returns once you get to those huge prices.
>I ask what makes these rifles different or $1000+ superior to a CZ 457
An anschutz 1416 should have a similar price tag to the cz457.
I ordered a Ruger American in .22lr to for utilitarian and new shooter training use but Ruger shipped the wrong gun with sights and a wood stock. It was indeed beautiful in wood. I was tempted to just settle the price difference and take her home, but I need what I need and a CZ 457 was considered but the ruger can use 10/22 mags, has a better range of options and the ruger is American made, and once when I thought I had a broken recoil spring on a MK3 I bought used, the just sent a new part to me. Money is not a deciding for me.
Unlike the homosexuals in this thread I actually owned an Anschutz rimfire hunting rifle (based on an MP54 action, can't remember the model) and a CZ 453. They were comparable. In a gun vice the Anschutz was a little more accurate, but the CZ had a nice action and trigger (possibly because it was newer) and was thus nicer to shoot and more practically accurate.
There is no real reason to buy an Anschutz over a CZ for any use other than sporting or German autism.
tikka rimfires are great and relatively cheap