I can't begin to imagine the technical and logistical challenges in front of the Ukrainian drone pilots, having to find the working airplane among the rest.
Really fucking depressing how Russia treats her birds, wtf is wrong with them, put them inside jfc
Talking about salt, here's the only built ekranoplan sitting rotting on the shore, where the Russians dragged her and dumped her despite having a contract to move it to Patriot Park.
This is after 20 years of leaving it half submerged.
Never mind the Mi-26-es, check out the ABSOLUTE UNIT that is the V-12. The largest helicopter ever built, and one of the few to use Focke-Achgelis-style side-by-side rotors.
>SU-47
I remember waiting so long for it's first public flight during MAKS airshow. It was in the another timeline and universe. And the future was so bright...
Russia, in general, is "that house" that's in every neighborhood. You know the one I mean. The kind of people who sell scrap metal so they can buy meth.
These strategic bombers never overfly Ukrainian territory (or come even close to it). It's always stand-off missiles from the safety of Russia/Belarus/Black Sea
The airframes are old Soviet production stock, IIRC the last 160M they put together in 2022 was (allegedly) a new production with only the wingbox frame being old production.
I'd be willing to bet <30% of the airframes they are actively flying do not qualify as flight worthy, but they are flying them anyway. No reason to believe they take better care of their planes than they do their armor or naval assets.
>russia is losing nuclear deterrence assets in a fucking regional conflict
Not just deterrence assets, anon, but irreplaceable ones since they don't make them new anymore. Someone in the Pentagon must be having a giggle fit everytime they read headlines like this.
>Day 543 of the mexican de-cartelization military operation by the US army >using drones made from discarded lawnmower engines, the mexicans were able to destroy a B2 spirit bomber while it was sitting alone in an Air National Guard airbase in Nevada
imagine the shitstorm
Russia literally used to pay Ukraine to maintain their nuclear missiles. They even tried to carry on this contract during the invasion. Ukraine - obviously - said get fucked.
Yes, by accidents and sometimes even during war while flying missions.
But not during war, while on the ground, on their own land, far away from the front.
The lack of basic defense around the airfield just adds insult to injury.
>but lying saying a non-flight worthy airframe was damage
You know I actually believe them in this one. Those planes are 40yo pretty sure that half of them are not flying ready at all.
Well-played move by the ukies. >Keep hitting Moscow with drones >Richfags sperg out, SAMs are brought in to protect capital >Killteams get the go-ahead, strike airbases, turning vital air assets to ashes and molten slag >Now pidors have to move planes to ass-end of nowhere >More air time means more wear, and earlier strike warning
Bro that fact that you think walkmans were somehow unaffordable is hilarious, fucking ever teenager in the US had one lmao, I'm sure in the USSR they were luxury items though, probably still are in most of Russia LOL
>The metal-cased blue-and-silver Walkman TPS-L2, the world's first low-cost personal stereo, went on sale in Japan on July 1, 1979, and was sold for around ¥33,000 (or $150.00).
That's at launch in 1979, and the cost only went down from there. Five years later in 1984, the WM-22 was $40 retail; that's in 1980's dollars so I'm going to guess the equivalent of maybe $95-100 in 2023? By the time Sony discontinued the cassette-tape Walkmans in 2010 they'd sold over 200 million of the damned things, so the economies of scale and improvements over time drove the actual price even further down.
So tell us all, Anon: are you from somewhere that a consumer electronics staple like a Walkman qualifies as a "major purchase"? Or do you just shoot your mouth off without any forethought, much less a few seconds of research?
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It makes sense when you realize he’s underage and the only money he gets is lunch money
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>the WM-22 was $40 retail; that's in 1980's dollars so I'm going to guess the equivalent of maybe $95-100 in 2023?
$117.69 (nice) 2023.
The $150 at launch would be about $631.59 today.
And in the early to mid 80s you already had multiple models to choose from for below $20.
Age doesn't necessarily mean bad if a piece of equipment still fills a role well and can be upgraded to reasonably modern standards.
See: The USS Mount Whitney, which is 52 years old and serves as the flagship of Sixth Fleet. Also the B-52, the Browning M2, and the C-130.
Of course, a W is a W, but getting them over useless Soviet-era strategic bombers which have zero impact on the war seem weak. It’s like, droning stuff on the frontlines is difficult so they’ll take optics wins over interior strategic forces.
>useless
They're one of the platforms Russia is using for their reflexive cruise missile terror bombing campaigns. Any Tu-22 or Tu-95 shot down is a win, as would be sinking any of the Kalibr carriers in the Black Sea Fleet or striking the coastal missile batteries at Sevastopol. It's one less asset to fire Kh-22s at kindergartens.
>useless Soviet-era strategic bombers
It's a definitive checkmark for US war planners that analyse nuclear capability. While everyone knows Russia's nuke arsenal is dysfunctional, positively removing an asset that could deliver one goes into proven column instead of hyphotetical
Russia unironically would happily rule over rubble if they could claim victory. They even do music videos.
Now, whether this is pro-Russian or anti-Russian or just anti-war I don't know. But Tenebrax IS Russian so even if he was 100% against the war, he'd have to make it just pro-Russian enough to avoid a trip out of a 8th story window.
>twists and turns >russia botches an initial attempt at a decapitation strike and has made nothing resembling progess over the past 500 days
what a tweest
There’s just screwing up and then there’s bombing yourself multiple times, having a mutiny/coup, abandoning so many tanks your enemy has more than they started with and losing your flagship to a country without a navy.
You're right, I definitely was expecting Wagner shoots down some aircraft in Russia and makes a Thunder run to Moscow only to give up and train Belarusian troops instead.
>the glowies in the Pentagon ever thought that Russia would lose multiple nuclear assets in this shitshow
they're countng on it, its a big part of why the US is supporting the war. every weaknesses demonstrated by Russia is hard data for the wargamers
Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircraft that could fly like a normal aircraft or just above sea level using aerodynamic ground effect. It was also VTOL I think.
Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircraft that could fly like a normal aircraft or just above sea level using aerodynamic ground effect. It was also VTOL I think.
said, ASW ground effect vehicle. And it was designed to eventually be VTOL, but never got to that stage.
The Caspian, Black, and Med are all ideal for GEVs, and the terrain surrounding the Baltic Sea presents challenges to deployment that they can overcome. Their use was envisioned as high speed assault transports for amphibious operations primarily.
They appear to have hit another one 39 minutes ago. They are doing the anti isis tactic of blowing up jets with hundreds of millions in them. some are still used as bombers but some are used to move things like pallets of cash, bonds, art, things like that and store it. Russians are kleptomaniacs. Putin has a giant train he loves to ride around on for weeks with a couple billion on it.
Ukrainian might start hitting trains soon.
Jesus Chist, I'm gonna make billions!
I just came up with "broken and abandoned" equipment camo pattern!
Gib me DOD on the line!!!Call LARPA!
Call everyone!
>It gives attacker immediate headache >looses morale since 1 of 100 is actual target ,maybe! >waste ammo on garbage dumps while actual target is garbage dump on the left! >stupefy well trained and serious Intelligence >has all kinds of PR spins
Fuck you, 4chin, I'm goin to be accepted into all those NWO shady groups, will get an island, an boat and an army of scientists to work my magic while you catch your squirrels inawoods...
>day 500+ of Operation Desert Eagle >Mexican drones have destroyed two B2 stealth bombers in Missouri >The Belgian/American lunar rover project ends in failure as the rovers crashed and spread debris across the moon's surface
>a non-flight worthy airframe
You'll have to narrow it down a bit more for me.
I can't begin to imagine the technical and logistical challenges in front of the Ukrainian drone pilots, having to find the working airplane among the rest.
xaxaxa stupid hoholpiggies cannot contend with superior Russian camouflage tactics *~~))
Really fucking depressing how Russia treats her birds, wtf is wrong with them, put them inside jfc
In the end history will forget Russia's works not because they were destroyed by it's enemies but because they neglected to preserve it themselves
Just to rub salt in the wound, here's the Central Air Force Museum in Moscow.
Talking about salt, here's the only built ekranoplan sitting rotting on the shore, where the Russians dragged her and dumped her despite having a contract to move it to Patriot Park.
This is after 20 years of leaving it half submerged.
The interior was pristine when they moved it there, I'm sure it's in deplorable condition now
I wish they'd bring it to the US. The boomers here would get it running in no time
jfc how big are those helicopters?
Never mind the Mi-26-es, check out the ABSOLUTE UNIT that is the V-12. The largest helicopter ever built, and one of the few to use Focke-Achgelis-style side-by-side rotors.
It looks like a v-22 osprey with downs syndrome, cute
>just put them inside!
>parks your irreplaceable airframe in an umaintained hangar
>ack!
I mean we know what's in there obviously. the plane really isn't the target. It's what's inside the planes.
anon that picture is the soviet space shuttle, on top of which the hangar returned to the ground under its own power
They are stash houses.
Weird GPT but okay
I don't know what that means. Some of them are Putin's fortune storing planes. Just like his giant ass train and his cargo ship. He's weird like that.
It deserved better
what the fuck, how did I miss this? I was planning on visiting her one day
Sure you would have, friend. For sure.
(You) can't fix her.
Inside what?
A hanger? or preferably a museum where they can be perserved as part of aviation history?
at least throw a tarp over them
idk maybe an abandoned salt mine
mobik
>put them inside
I'd settle for under a tarp.
>SU-47 just sitting out there rotting
FUUUUUUUUCCKKKKK
Not even vatnik trolls have a counter argument to this.
>Su-47
I can save her
>I can save her
Not if I save my waifu first
missing the Su-57
Give me the berkut I'll take better care of her
>SU-47 rotting outside somewhere.
Give her to me, I can fix her.
Why does this .jpg offend and anger me despite hating commies so much?
here is the same place but with a su 57
(filname are coordinates)
There's two more Su-57s in another lot just north of that.
>jfc how big are those helicopters?
Rather large
It's because it's a waste of money.Yor capitalist brain is looking at that rare bird and thinking "SELL IT!".
It gets worde the longer you look at it.
Russia is that senile boomer with a field full of decaying classic cars: the country, I swear to god
>SU-47
I remember waiting so long for it's first public flight during MAKS airshow. It was in the another timeline and universe. And the future was so bright...
Why not put them in hangar ffs? They don't cost that much to build.
Look at what happened to the fucking Buran. I wouldnt get within a mile of a russian hangar or dry dock.
The Russian Airforce is like that neighbor who fills his garage with useless trash so his car has NEVER had a covered place to park.
Russia, in general, is "that house" that's in every neighborhood. You know the one I mean. The kind of people who sell scrap metal so they can buy meth.
That's fine, they still have the Tu-160Ms
Speaking of, have they been using any of those?
Easily the most kino aircraft Russia somehow managed to produce.
According to Ukraine, yes https://t.me/kpszsu/2492
Can’t make sense of that blyatnik link, but it’s gonna be a bittersweet day when one gets shot down (even if it’s just a watered-down XB-70 Valkyrie)
These strategic bombers never overfly Ukrainian territory (or come even close to it). It's always stand-off missiles from the safety of Russia/Belarus/Black Sea
Are the new-build planes truly new-build, or are they assembling them out of existing part stocks?
The airframes are old Soviet production stock, IIRC the last 160M they put together in 2022 was (allegedly) a new production with only the wingbox frame being old production.
I'd be willing to bet <30% of the airframes they are actively flying do not qualify as flight worthy, but they are flying them anyway. No reason to believe they take better care of their planes than they do their armor or naval assets.
Well, if it wasn't flight worthy before, it certainly isn't now.
>russia is losing nuclear deterrence assets in a fucking regional conflict
>against 200$ drones from Amazon
has technology gone too far?
>Another B2 Spirit damaged at Whiteman Airforce Base in the United States : Operation supervised by Mexican Defense Intelligence
>Day n+1 of the Special de-hoserification operation
>Canadian Forces have dealt another blow to America's dwindling B1 fleet.
To be fair, they managed to lose a good part of their fleet against a country with no navy,
>russia is losing nuclear deterrence assets in a fucking regional conflict
Not just deterrence assets, anon, but irreplaceable ones since they don't make them new anymore. Someone in the Pentagon must be having a giggle fit everytime they read headlines like this.
>Day 543 of the mexican de-cartelization military operation by the US army
>using drones made from discarded lawnmower engines, the mexicans were able to destroy a B2 spirit bomber while it was sitting alone in an Air National Guard airbase in Nevada
imagine the shitstorm
Russia literally used to pay Ukraine to maintain their nuclear missiles. They even tried to carry on this contract during the invasion. Ukraine - obviously - said get fucked.
They should have said yes, gotten the whole missiles, and launched them back (even without the warhead).
It would probably involve Ukrainian technicians going to Russia.
wasn't this debunked by RT?
>RT
>debunked by RT?
>debunked by RT
bro, shut the fuck up.
America sometimes looses B52s
but I suppose the American region is a bit larger
Yes, by accidents and sometimes even during war while flying missions.
But not during war, while on the ground, on their own land, far away from the front.
The lack of basic defense around the airfield just adds insult to injury.
>but lying saying a non-flight worthy airframe was damage
You know I actually believe them in this one. Those planes are 40yo pretty sure that half of them are not flying ready at all.
that's the thing. Russia doesn't have any airworthy jets, but they fly them anyway.
Isn't it true that Ukraine air force is actually larger now than the beginning of the war?
Well-played move by the ukies.
>Keep hitting Moscow with drones
>Richfags sperg out, SAMs are brought in to protect capital
>Killteams get the go-ahead, strike airbases, turning vital air assets to ashes and molten slag
>Now pidors have to move planes to ass-end of nowhere
>More air time means more wear, and earlier strike warning
>air time
>not wear time
You had one job gay
>over 50 year old equipment
is Ukraine going to celebrate when they destroy my Walkman next?
The cope is eternal.
Still in service though, unlike my walkman
you could never afford a walkman
>Walkmans
>expensive
Walkmans were fucking cheap haha, fucking vatnik they weren't luxury items like in USSR, hahahaha jfc
do you ever not lie?
Maybe when they were brand new
What would they be, $400 or $500 if we used today's inflated dollar? Not cheap, but not prohibitevly expensive either
You are talking like the highest level ones within 3 months of coming out and maybe brand and type.
It was 10-15 in today's money for a basic walkman
I grew up around IPods so I'll defer to our older users for this one
It was 10-15 for something you'd pick up at k Mart.
otherburger here, can confirm - walkman was cheap af.
Walkmans were cheap man. Swear to God, maybe 10-15$ in today's money
Bro that fact that you think walkmans were somehow unaffordable is hilarious, fucking ever teenager in the US had one lmao, I'm sure in the USSR they were luxury items though, probably still are in most of Russia LOL
>The metal-cased blue-and-silver Walkman TPS-L2, the world's first low-cost personal stereo, went on sale in Japan on July 1, 1979, and was sold for around ¥33,000 (or $150.00).
That's at launch in 1979, and the cost only went down from there. Five years later in 1984, the WM-22 was $40 retail; that's in 1980's dollars so I'm going to guess the equivalent of maybe $95-100 in 2023? By the time Sony discontinued the cassette-tape Walkmans in 2010 they'd sold over 200 million of the damned things, so the economies of scale and improvements over time drove the actual price even further down.
So tell us all, Anon: are you from somewhere that a consumer electronics staple like a Walkman qualifies as a "major purchase"? Or do you just shoot your mouth off without any forethought, much less a few seconds of research?
It makes sense when you realize he’s underage and the only money he gets is lunch money
>the WM-22 was $40 retail; that's in 1980's dollars so I'm going to guess the equivalent of maybe $95-100 in 2023?
$117.69 (nice) 2023.
The $150 at launch would be about $631.59 today.
And in the early to mid 80s you already had multiple models to choose from for below $20.
Bro walkmans retailed down here for like 20 bucks a pop
They were about the same price as a six pack of beer
Wtf? How much are cds in russia?
Age doesn't necessarily mean bad if a piece of equipment still fills a role well and can be upgraded to reasonably modern standards.
See: The USS Mount Whitney, which is 52 years old and serves as the flagship of Sixth Fleet. Also the B-52, the Browning M2, and the C-130.
>"Joke's on you, it didn't fly anyways."
What schizo?
His dad works at Nitendo('s call center)
This is the weirdest hill I’ve seen a vatnik die on in like…a week.
Of course, a W is a W, but getting them over useless Soviet-era strategic bombers which have zero impact on the war seem weak. It’s like, droning stuff on the frontlines is difficult so they’ll take optics wins over interior strategic forces.
>useless
They're one of the platforms Russia is using for their reflexive cruise missile terror bombing campaigns. Any Tu-22 or Tu-95 shot down is a win, as would be sinking any of the Kalibr carriers in the Black Sea Fleet or striking the coastal missile batteries at Sevastopol. It's one less asset to fire Kh-22s at kindergartens.
Nice cope!
>interior strategic forces
>useless Soviet-era strategic bombers
It's a definitive checkmark for US war planners that analyse nuclear capability. While everyone knows Russia's nuke arsenal is dysfunctional, positively removing an asset that could deliver one goes into proven column instead of hyphotetical
>Russia didn't need those bombers anyway
>they are unimportant
>interior strategic forces
post you god damn hand anon.
Do you think the glowies in the Pentagon ever thought that Russia would lose multiple nuclear assets in this shitshow?
wouldn't it be wacky if the SBU gets their hands on a nuke
I don't think anyone is capable of predicting what will happen in this war with all the twists and turns it's had so far
Biden has. The whole thing. I thought he was rambling. "Putin will leave ruble and call it victory".
rubble*
Russia unironically would happily rule over rubble if they could claim victory. They even do music videos.
Now, whether this is pro-Russian or anti-Russian or just anti-war I don't know. But Tenebrax IS Russian so even if he was 100% against the war, he'd have to make it just pro-Russian enough to avoid a trip out of a 8th story window.
Well the first version is also correct.
>twists and turns
>russia botches an initial attempt at a decapitation strike and has made nothing resembling progess over the past 500 days
what a tweest
There’s just screwing up and then there’s bombing yourself multiple times, having a mutiny/coup, abandoning so many tanks your enemy has more than they started with and losing your flagship to a country without a navy.
You're right, I definitely was expecting Wagner shoots down some aircraft in Russia and makes a Thunder run to Moscow only to give up and train Belarusian troops instead.
>"Honey, the lamp is speaking again"
>"It says that you have a job offer"
>the glowies in the Pentagon ever thought that Russia would lose multiple nuclear assets in this shitshow
they're countng on it, its a big part of why the US is supporting the war. every weaknesses demonstrated by Russia is hard data for the wargamers
>but lying saying a non-flight worthy airframe was damage
this is possibly the only non-lie ever told by a russian
Don't forget the VVA-14
What in the fuck is that
Anti-Submarine Warfare Aircraft that could fly like a normal aircraft or just above sea level using aerodynamic ground effect. It was also VTOL I think.
Just like
said, ASW ground effect vehicle. And it was designed to eventually be VTOL, but never got to that stage.
For some reason the USSR was big into ekranoplans, which are equal parts amazing and strange. That thing though takes the cake though.
I love it, it's a fascinating piece of machinery and it breaks my heart to see it's current state.
The Caspian, Black, and Med are all ideal for GEVs, and the terrain surrounding the Baltic Sea presents challenges to deployment that they can overcome. Their use was envisioned as high speed assault transports for amphibious operations primarily.
firefly-class transport
Ukraine is collecting on the debt Russia owes
They appear to have hit another one 39 minutes ago. They are doing the anti isis tactic of blowing up jets with hundreds of millions in them. some are still used as bombers but some are used to move things like pallets of cash, bonds, art, things like that and store it. Russians are kleptomaniacs. Putin has a giant train he loves to ride around on for weeks with a couple billion on it.
Ukrainian might start hitting trains soon.
Jesus Chist, I'm gonna make billions!
I just came up with "broken and abandoned" equipment camo pattern!
Gib me DOD on the line!!!Call LARPA!
Call everyone!
>It gives attacker immediate headache
>looses morale since 1 of 100 is actual target ,maybe!
>waste ammo on garbage dumps while actual target is garbage dump on the left!
>stupefy well trained and serious Intelligence
>has all kinds of PR spins
Fuck you, 4chin, I'm goin to be accepted into all those NWO shady groups, will get an island, an boat and an army of scientists to work my magic while you catch your squirrels inawoods...
Wanna hear 2 jokes?
>russian navy
>russian air force
It's time to move them again, we must travel further east, always to the east.
Shut up Aidan
>tfw ukraine used to have 29 tu 22m which they either scrapped or donated to museums. Imagine
Is there a running list of all the attacks inside Russia that has destroyed or damaged assets? Like this bomber and the recent factory that blew.
>day 500+ of Operation Desert Eagle
>Mexican drones have destroyed two B2 stealth bombers in Missouri
>The Belgian/American lunar rover project ends in failure as the rovers crashed and spread debris across the moon's surface