Another level of escalation just started boys, can't wait for the footage
Copeniks incoming, if you see increased curry spam, this ist the reason
Another level of escalation just started boys, can't wait for the footage
Another level of escalation just started boys, can't wait for the footage
Copeniks incoming, if you see increased curry spam, this ist the reason
>4 Mig-29s against endless Su-35s
I don't think this semen-slurping sport is for me, guys
They barely even use them
Why not? Low on munitions?
Ukraine is filled to the brim with AA
Then why aren't any of the Russians going to the meetings?
Because the first step is admitting they have a problem
How can they have a problem when alcohol is the solution?
Irrelevant, Russians pilot training is just meme worthy levels of bad.
Because flying anything over the front now is suicide.
That's not the point. The types of weapons delivered is a ratchet, it only ever goes forward, just like with the first few HIMARS and short range artillery
>endless
Lol even if they had more than like a dozen aircraft that don’t fly with a bunch of alarms going off, Russia certainly doesn’t have an “endless” supply of trained pilots. They’re already down to the drunk retards crashing into drones maintaining a constant bearing
russia stopped using planes in ukraine
>Endless
>against endless Su-35s
>I don't think this semen-slurping sport is for me, guys
Lmao WELL MEMED moron.
SSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>endless Su-35s
May I see them?
dubs speak the truth
That's the great thing about the war:
Everyone is starting to see that the emperor has very little clothing.
All those fancy Sukhois and Armatas and tigers and all that ...turns out we see very little of them on the battlefield. As if they were wunderwaffel to begin with... just fancy toys paraded around in highly controlled environments, like Potemkin villages.
And now the whole world knows that all they have is T-72's ...and they are even running out of those. To the point where they are stealing BTR-50's from museums. All that talk about having 20,000 tanks in reserve... turns out they were rusted so bad you can't even open door by now. Their whole army was an inflatable one.
And now even nations like Armenia and Kazakstan are running away.
>Su-35s
moron they're down to using fucking SU-24s
Haven't they been already given secondhand Migs from Slovakia? More flying junk is hardly an escalation, although probably helps, if nothing else for parts.
Based. Hopefully this opens the floodgates to more jet donations, like what happened with sending western tanks.
Article is cut in half. Thesee are fisrt four, to be deliveredd in few days, Rest is in maintence and repairs and to be deleviered in few weeks.
Yes. Many countries are working in deliveries, but these are the first to actually get send
>escalation
>escalation
>escalation
>muh escalation!
Just shut the fuck up about this fucking meme muh escalation you fucking braindead gay
Hey it took surprisingly long for the first pajeet to show up. Not getting paid as well nowadays?
>escalation
Haha
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Terrible aircraft firing terrible missiles. They'll continue to get pasted by R-37s launched from MiG-31s and SU-35s flying in the stratosphere. The only utility this has is getting other countries to send F-16s and Eurofighters.
jdam truck?
>firing terrible missiles
They're gonna be JDAM delivery trucks. That's why they're undergoing maintenance - Poland is refitting them to carry JDAMs.
I mean Ukraine is getting F-16s eventually too, so I'm not surprised.
The same shit happened with MBTs. The floodgates opened and then after that everyone was too busy to notice. Even here, do you guys know that most of the initial countries have doubled their pledges? (Canada, Germany, Spain etc). Everyone now seems to be sending more Leos than they promised, and it's all getting lost in the news cycle.
Leos and Challengers are already in Ukraine's hands and yet the US has to take a year to deliver Abrams? Biden has to be trolling
They're lying as well. Look how fast the bradleys were delivered. And also how many. They said 50 at first, then boom, 97 make it to Ukraine in a few weeks. Don't believe the US, it's very likely that abrams are already en-route to Poland as we speak
Earliest for NEW Abrams is next year, since they'd have to be repackaged for export. What's more likely is the Poles or someone else is sending their Export Abrams in return for the ones Ukraine would have gotten off the production line.
>the US has to take a year to deliver Abrams?
This has been discussed to death, in detail, here on PrepHole. U.S. law forbids export of certain technology (depleted uranium armor, for one). The President can't just hand-wave something like that through, it takes an Act of Congress getting signed into law to create even exemptions. Guess who is shutting down aid to Ukraine in the U.S. Congress?
The solution is manufacturing new tanks, and/or "down-refurbishing" existing ones in inventory. It will be faster than an entire year, but stating that it will take "up to a year" builds in some wriggle room.
Also this:
>The President can't just hand-wave something like that through
Its never stopped him before.
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>pucca crashes plane into drone
>now NATO will send jets to Ukraine
congratulation putin the theory that you are secret a CIA agent working to expand NATO and increase military spending in Europe suddenly got more credible
I'm thinking I'd like a t72 turret grill pit placed in my backyard.
dont forget, this comes after putin chimped out and fired bunch of missiles and suicide drones at Ukraine, so the Ukis also got a ton of modern AA
We (the United States) should “escalate” straight to a full scale counterforce nuclear first strike followed by genocide of all vatnig lifeforms.
Hello fellow moderate
Yes, moderation is key
>decides to invade us now?
Invade how? Whole russian army is busy dying in ukraine.
>Listening to an ex convict wagnig that has literally not told a truth ever
Sure thing Ivan. They're on their what, 13th?, conscription wave because everyone just loves getting conscripted
You got invasion insurance from your pals at NATO
bro this ain't dragonball Z if they had the army why the fuck are they sending mobiks to die by the truckload. Why not send in the "Real" army and clean up instead of looking like a retarded gay?
Where even is "the real Russian army" and why did they send the fake Russian army to Kiev, Kherson, and Kharkiv?
>What if the Russian Federation decides to invade us now?
Invading a NATO member state is going to be Russian speedrun for nonexistence any% .
>Why are we disarming
Those things are old Soviet machines. Modernized but still behind in terms of capability. MOD wants to modernize because we are going to switch to using F35 in 2024-2026 which was planned/announced in 2020.
src for my claims:
https://theaviationist.com/2021/11/18/poland-f-35-issues/
>Fuck Duda and PiS.
Are you puzzian?
>Why are we disarming
We aren't russians unilike you.
>banderites?
Next time call them Ukrainians, might work.
>What if the Russian Federation decides to invade us now?
You don't call puzzia as Russian Federation here.
Try harder next time, ivan.
Fuck you and the banderites, they actually like to be called that way, you should know better
Neither Duda nor PiS makes decisions in Poland.
wdym
Cry.
Kaczynski is a gay
Why does Poland still fly Mig29s is the better question.
Get some real planes like F18s or Eurofighters instead.
They're already in the process of phasing out their Migs for F-35s. That's why they're even willing to give them away in the first place.
they literally bought them for 1 euro don't be mean to them. I wonder if the poles managed to slap some aim-120 on thoise things
Poland mostly flies F16s - but due to NATO membership constraints (agreed to keep close to 200 aircraft air force when joining) they are still "flying" su22's and hinds even without having any guided missiles for them for last 10 to 20 years...
It's better for us to let Russians and Ukrainians bleed each other out rather than having to fight them here
I am not too well versed in soviet fighter jets.
Could i get some rough explanation/tier-list of different Sukhoi/Mig planes?
I think that Su-27 Flanker was supposed to be the answer to F-15, being able to kill it or at least fight it on equal ground.
And the same with MIG-29 for F-16?
But other than that, I am not very up to date with that stuff. Anyone have some introduction-level material to how things play out with the newer planes?
I have understood that there is a fair bit of false advertisement with soviet fighter jets. As in, their performance might not be exactly what is says on the tin. Like MIG-25 was supposed to be be able to reach 3,2 Mach, but if you did so the engines would melt.
And there were general bureaucratic shit involved like "this plane was supposed to be made from Aluminium, but since our aluminium production is not up to par with that, we decided to built them from steel instead, completely fucking up the calculated tolerances."
Found this with quick googling.
Any truth to it?
What is that image even trying to say? There's a pretty big difference between an F-16A and an F-16V, just like there's a pretty big difference between a MiG-29A and a MiG-35
I guess it's just a rough "if comparing base version" schematic. I would not place too much value on it eaither. Seems to cut too many corners. I know that two different versions of a same airframe can perform on entirely different levels considering if they have been upgraded properly.
Here's a pretty clearly laid out video on advancements and upgrades:
Since about the start of the eurotriangle development, we've hit something of a plateau in aerodynamic performance, with diminishing returns on speed, efficiency, and maneuverability. Some gains are still being had in engine performance and materials, but otherwise, pretty much all 4th gen fighter aircraft are at least competitive in terms of physical performance. The big gains now are in electronics, mainly networking and radar/sensors with multiple simultaneous functions and low probability of intercept.
Thank you for this video. I liked the part in the end that kinda brings it all down to "Generations are kinda like a marketing gimmick, and in reality even just being very skilled with older stuff can be more advantageous than being unskilled with newer stuff."
Makes sense. Even if you have a fairly modern fighter, it can be the case of "Who has more flight hours under his belt" that makes the difference.