Anons, I want to get away from the family's nonsense - love them all, but sometimes I need a fricking day or two completely alone.
I love my property too - it is massive, 65 acres of pure forest.
Which structure do I build to hide away from them?
A dugout?
>inb4: stop being weak and tell them you want some privacy
I can, and they will do their best to respect it, but they're just in-fricking-capable of giving someone their privacy (they have the best intentions in mind, but for fricks' sake it's impossible to get some peace and quiet.)
Easier if I just said I was going camping on the property for 2 days, they don't go into the woods anyways.
Would the dugout be the best option for this?
I'd also like to get a little modelmaking / carpentry setup in there, a little table and what-not.
Not sure if I should have it UNDER the ground, or ABOVE the ground, or even in the treeline (hell a fricking treehouse?)
The point isn't to be undetectable, I just want a place with some privacy that isn't IMMEDIATELY accessible to them.
Needs:
>can be slept in
>enough space for a little workbench (maybe a model railroad setup in N scale, but that's about all)
>shit can be concealed in it (got certain stuff I'm not comfortable storing indoors - fire / poison hazards), think tannerite
>cool in the summer, warm in the winter
So far, I'm thinking dugout.
I'd like to make it a little nice, thinking dirt foundation with joists, and a floating plywood floor, plywood walls?
Might do log walls instead - got a lot of little trees here.
I feel like this is the perfect question to ask on PrepHole.
I appreciate it, anons.
Cheers.
Just get a pop-up camper.
Just park it on the property?
A bit small, innit?
I figure I could build a 6x8 foot dugout for $300, and pop-ups, even used, start from $700.
>Just park it on the property?
Yes, and bring it home with your afterward.
>A bit small, innit?
They make bigger ones.
>I figure I could build a 6x8 foot dugout for $300, and pop-ups, even used, start from $700.
A dirty damp smelly hole in the ground ain't worth it for any money.
Hi anon, you seem quite lucky to have such a property with your family.
What kind of climate and terrain is it ?
I was thinking of something in between under and above ground. You could maybe get some inspiration from icelandic turf houses : cheap and tough (but they do require some effort) https://youtu.be/C18z3LCulaM
It's the biggest blessing I've experienced in over a decade, anon.
It's the ultimate PrepHole property.
It's in central Ontario, if that gives you context anon. Gets cold in the winter though, -30C.
And +30 to +40 in the summer.
Terrain is almost perfectly flat, a few hills.
The turf house does seem like a good idea.
I was wondering though - how will plywood (considering using it) hold up against dirt walls?
Probably not too well, I figure.
This is my dream, how did you acquire it ?
Turf house would probably be have good insulation properties, I think they know about cold weather in Iceland !
Indeed, plywood for the walls might not be the best, especially against dirt. In my experience it can rot easily.
I think digging a bit deeper in traditional turf house building might be a good idea, understanding what works and why.
I'm going to be honest with you - partially thanks to aforementioned family.
Got myself, and my parents, and my wife, and my sister all living together.
Here in Ontario the housing prices are fricked, so we all just got together and put $2,000,000 on the property.
I'm running a business, my father's working, wife's working from home.
Just grinding it, basically, and inter-generational wealth.
If you want a bit of paradise though, check out near Ottawa - they have 5 acres available for 100,000 dollars (no house though, trailer or cabin will be cozy nonetheless.)
Very nice, multi generational homes are great. But I perfectly understand needing privacy, I would too.
Thanks for the tip but I'm a Euro. There are some good deals here too.
God speed brother
Thank you brother!
I'm actually from Europe originally - it seems like the housing crisis isn't too bad yet - if you're in the Nordics, you might have a lot of luck finding land in Finland - I've been there, it's the #1 PrepHole country (maybe behind Russia / Canada in scale, but for me it's #1 due to the quality of the PrepHoledoors there.)
Believe me, keep looking, and if there's nothing - think outside the box!
Before we found the property, I was about to sell my shit, and buy a cabin near Ottawa - it ain't perfect, but it would've been a hell of a lot better than living in downtown.
Good luck and God Bless!
Yeah I love Finland, I'm from France but I'm learning Finnish and planning on moving here. I'm in Finland for the summer working at a store and I'm starting to make some connections and have a small network already.
It's indeed a great country, not many negatives here.
Looking forward to the future
Take the wofati pill.
Also neoprene sand bag homes are pretty based.
Here's a guide, and after your done reading check the mass heater stoves article on the website in case you need heat source in winter. Enjoy OP let me know your thoughts.
https://richsoil.com/wofati.jsp
Wofati seems promising - it reminds me of a modern version of cob houses!
And mid-east old-school sandbag construction.
Cheers, mate!
Cheers I bought the book the article was based on it was simple elegant and cheap.
$50 in 1980 so around $180 today
The $50 and up Underground House
https://usa1lib.org/s/?q=The+%2450+%26+Up+Underground+House+Book
Heaving is going to frick your shit all to frick
>heaving
What do you mean, anon?
frost heaves, ie, the topsoil freezing and expanding in the winter. You just have to dig deep enough and allow for the movement in your design, don't put any concrete on top.
Something like this if you've got the time bro
https://m.youtube.com/c/ArtSportArtSport/videos
Good fricking stuff, anon - thank you.
I'm going to watch the videos.
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Right now, here's my plan.
I'm gonna go look for a suitable hill tomorrow to start hollowing out.
I think I will make it about 6x8 feet, and I'm going to start (I know it's cheating, but I want to save a bit of time) with a 2x4 frame.
I think in between, I will layer the logs, and then put 'em in place with another two 2x4s against the wall.
This way no need to bother with interlocking them perfectly.
I'm considering putting plywood across, but it's insanely fricking expensive, so I'm definitely thinking logs.
What do you anons think for height?
I'm 6', but I don't think I'll manage 6' into the hill - I think 5' ought to be good enough for me, since it'll be 90% sitting.
I'm also going to put down a mattress of some sort, so I can just sit right on the ground crosslegged.
My back isn't fricked up, but it does get sore easily from sitting straight, I like reclining.
I think maybe a mattress, and then a little sitting desk?
Who fricking knows.
I will dig down into the ground to make a little hidden compartment, hide it under the floor, and have a false floor in THAT, with another 2x3 feet of space, going down about 2 feet.
Maybe make the front wall out of plywood for privacy?
And cut out a plywood door?
I can seal the back and side walls easily, ceiling too.
Not sure about the front though, hm.
I'd leave a raised section for bed base like don't dig it out and personally I'd go for 7 foot minimum height so you can stand up but doesn't have to be fully dug out could use logs, sandbags or timber to get extra height along walls. Earthships have always interested me if you have access to old tyres could be another option
Be careful about humidity and make sure the wood doesn't rot !
OP here - will reply to you all anons in a tiny bit - just had to head off last night.
Thank you for the advice, frens.
Just buy a shed and fill it with furniture. You could also get a small trailer if you want it to be portable.
Too poor, anon.
🙁
I've got a budget of 300 bucks.
If I had the cash I would just buy a trailer, no question about it.
Booby trapped too of
Geo dome that doubles as a greenhouse on one side
You have 65 acres and really need to ask for advice? This must be a larp
join us unnaaground
>started a tunnel project 2 years ago
>still haven't dug more than 2 feet
Got another vid for you bro if you've got suitable timber on your property
Could be built into dug out hole it you still wanted to go that way, I'd probably go for rebar or pipe for joiners instead of branches.
Keep us updated I'm thinking bout something similar next springtime down here