ammo/gun alteratives

what are some alternatives to 22 wmr that aren't rim fire, due to certain medical conditions even 9mm is difficult for me to shoot so i was curious of something that might have similar recoil/ballistics in a handgun but that dosent have the rim fire unreliability issues associated with it since id rather not trust my life to a rim fire cartridge

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i ccw a .32 acp and find it pretty good as long as the handgun has some mass. 380 is also nice like like a beretta 80x or walther ppks (beretta is better for recoil tho).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ive never heard of 32. acp how are the ballistics of that cartridge?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i run hornady ammo as it is most reliable in the tomcat and its 60 grain at 1000 ftps. recoil is manageable but slightly worse than a fullsize with 9mm.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ive never heard of 32. acp how are the ballistics of that cartridge?

      A KelTec P32 with good ball ammo is a good option. I like to put Fiocchi through mine. Extended magazine makes it very comfortable, still pocketable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot to mention, if you have trouble racking a slide, even a light pull slide like on the KelTec P32, the Beretta Tomcat may be a better option.
        In my opinion 32 is very comfortable. A bit more recoil than 22 mag but less snappy than 380.
        Hope you find what's right for you!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hmmm ill have to keep that in mind the only thing im worried about with the p32 was the size of it seemed to be quite small, either that or the person just had big hands. hows teh tomcat size wise?

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .380 ACP, I would presume.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it felt still like quite a bit to me but seeing as people are bringing up the size of the firearms mattering for that i cant say for sure that my prior experience matters as it was a smaller ccw karh

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Consider a revolver in .32, or a locked breach .380 like the shield ez series. A steel .38 revolver is okay but understand that plus p loadings can get to 9mm levels of recoil, but standard pressure .38 special is actual pussyfart level. I don't know how your hand problems might impact your ability to pull a heavy revolver trigger.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i should elaborate then, i have hyper mobile joints and muscles as such its both very hard to fight the recoil due to my body more freely wanting to move around and it can be quite painful i've already shot a 38. and 357. they both were quite difficult (357 +p flew out of my hands) 9 mm mainly just hurts and is difficult to make quick/accurate follow up shots, as for triggers its usually fine with heavier pulls for me just takes me a bit get used to longer pulls

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A Shield EZ is pretty light recoiling, certainly lighter than 9mm though you'll have to try various calibers to see what you can comfortably shoot.

        ive never heard of 32. acp how are the ballistics of that cartridge?

        Shit. May as well use .22, it's cheaper higher capacity and more accurate. .22 is not inherently unreliable by the way, but certain .22 guns are and shitty ammo definitely is.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you should try seeing about trying out certain grips for guns, that might help absorb some recoil based of how it fits in the hand
        heavier guns is also a great way to mitigate recoil, along side having a good compensator / muzzle break

        ive heard people shit on 5.7 a lot online but the gel tests ive seen have been promising whats yall's take on that?

        5.7 is fine, .22lr put plenty of people in the ground, and 5.7 is more powerful

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          interesting on the topic of grip ive mainly only tried stock guns that family have as they dont tend to modify them much, the exception being my fathers 365x macro and that thing really hurts to shoot tho it is nice having the red dot and laser on it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Remember that you can moderate recoil by stepping up the size/weight of the gun as well as stepping down the size of the bullet.

          My wife carries a P365-380 because she prefers the reduced recoil vs the 9mm P365. That might be enough for you.
          If not then the M&P Shield EZ in .380 is softer still. Still small enough to conceal easily though.
          You could also look into some of the older, steel-framed carry pistols in .380 or .32.

          5.7 worked well enough for Nidal Hasan.
          Still remains one of the deadliest mass shootings with a handgun.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Remember that you can moderate recoil by stepping up the size/weight of the gun as well as stepping down the size of the bullet.
            Yep.
            Lots of people seem to fixate on the caliber, but the specific load and the individual gun are just as important. If recoil is a concern then a heavy gun and lower bullet weight will really help.

            A couple other things I'll add. First is make sure you're wearing good ear pro. Some people develop a flinch while shooting but it's not because of the recoil alone, the muzzle blast and the noise contribute too.

            Another thing I'll suggest is to think about your grip and how you hold your gun. It is not about brute strength, you don't have to have big muscular hands to shoot handguns well. What matters a lot more is your technique. This video is an extreme but great example. Watch these guys shoot this super-hard-recoiling revolver. The younger guys are really bearing down on the grip hard but you can still see they nearly lose control of the gun on multiple occasions despite this. Then watch the old man shoot. He has wimpy noodle arms by comparison and he's not trying to death-grip the gun either. But he does allow the gun to rise when he shoots which soaks up the recoil. Instead of trying to use just his hands he keeps his elbows unlocked and uses his whole upper body to control the gun. Despite being much weaker physically he can shoot the gun much better.

            Instead of trying to hold the gun rock-solid like a vise understand mentally that when you pull the trigger the gun is going to move (recoil). You can't do shit about that and that's okay. Let the gun recoil, don't try and fight it because you can't. But what you CAN do is get it back on target smoothly and quickly after recoil happens.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              im fairly certain it is not sound i have been to the range since i was in middle school. only times i blink anymore is from 308 or larger when indoors. as for the grip talk its very interesting i can do my best to try those techniques i feel like it might be something better directly tough ill ask around irl and see if anyone knows about that. if not ill try my best to just practice that myself and thanks a ton man

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically the pistol brace was made for you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's fine for shooting at the range but it's not going to help for CCW.

          >excuse me mister mugger, hold on while I get this brace out and strap it to my arm

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if only the ATF wasn't cringe and braces were more concealable. im sure the 3rd point of contact would help me a lot ive entertained things like the flux raider among other things but in the end they are not easy to conceal >~>

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      from personal experience stay away from the 3032 tomcat if you're plus p loading 32 acp. fricking gun will self destuct

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5.7
    .25 acp
    .32 short
    .32 acp
    .32 long colt
    .32 s&w long

    a good option is to get into reloading, and make some low power loads
    all you'd need is a basic handloading set-up, and you could make a few mags worth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ive heard people shit on 5.7 a lot online but the gel tests ive seen have been promising whats yall's take on that?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Something heavier will be better. Even .380 is snappy.
    Maybe a Beretta Bobcat in .25 or .32 acp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the new tomcat 30x seems nice with better as they seem to have ironed out the kinks from the old one/ i wouldnt reccomend the old 3032 tomcat(.32 acp)

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .45 ACP out of a full-sized 1911 is very low recoil.
    The sub/compact 9mm guns are snappy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i tried 45 out of a full sized glock is that a similar experience recoil wise to the 1911? if so i dont think it'd work for me as badass as it'd be to edc a 1911

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, the 1911 is heavier and absorbs the recoil better. If you can get a compensated barrel it'll be even more reasonable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          alright then, ill have to give one a try o7

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Walther PP in .32ACP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'd prefer a new firearm so there is no wear and tear i have to immediately worry about epically in a gun that im trying to protect my life with

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bersa Thunder in .380

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Taurus 327 in .327 Federal Magnum

    BUT! Do not load it with .327! Load it with .32 H&R Magnum for a very pleasant shooting self-defense round.

    And if you need even less recoil, load it with .32 S&W Long wadcutters.

    Either way, .32 H&R and .32 Long are infinitely more shootable than .38 Special.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      32 h&r out of an aluminum framed snubnose barely has any kick at all but the bullets are like a dollar a round. 32 s&w long is way cheaper and they probably have 22lr levels of recoil

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    380 out of a shield ez is laser beam mode

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    22mag is way more reliable than 22lr. I have about 700 rounds though my s&w 351pd so far and have never had a misfire or light strike. The only negative so far is ammo cost is the same as 9mm.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      say that when using an auto loader like the m&p 22 or the pmr 30

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