Two of my hiking friends are going to the USA for two months leaving me alone for the summer without hiking friends. I don't get it. I am from the Netherlands, which yes is flat and boring but Europe is better than America for landscapes. Want mountains? Go to urals, Carpathians, Alps. Want canyons? Go to Greece, Turkey, and France. Want deserts? Visit Spain. Want grasslands? Visit the European plains. Want forests? We have plenty.
I have been told American plains and flatlands and grasslands are more interesting because the heat lightening and powerful storms are awesome. But so? So you're saying Europe cannot do awe inspiring stuff?
To me it's Americentrism. Like we all must go to America for nature. Europe has so much more and yes I know people will say america has areas of super sparse populations. Okay, so does Russia. So what? If you go into nature in germany or france it won't feel any different than Alaska or Montana besides the landscape.
In my view people should stay in europe because then our nature will be more accurately seen as as good as or even better than americas. America has mythologies around their natural areas which sadly causes europeans to think it is worth it to visit.
Also I am sure russia has swamps similar to everglades and Louisiana bayous. Also, want fjords? Go to Norway not Alaska.
So what does USA have we don't? Besides tropical parks in hawaii or their colonies in the pacific.
Giant redwoods, giant sequoias, the grand canyon, the southern half of Utah, the gulf of Mexico, and probably more stars than you've ever seen in Europe. Anyway, some people just want to explore. You guys have shit we don't have and we have shit you don't have.
How in the frick is a country that doesn't even have a warm water port city going to have swamps like Louisiana
St. Petersburg was built on a swamp you uneducated American birdbrain
All swamps aren't the same you fricking uneducated vatnik homosexual. You think a forest is a forest from alpine to tropical?
>Every swamp is the same
>every forest is the same
>The sahara and the antartica are both deserts basically the same.
Get a load of this mongol rape baby yuro
Pic related could be literally anywhere near moscow apparently
so was chicago you fricking moron, what the frick does that have to do with louisiana swamps?
Please post 1 (ONE) recent picture proving you go outdoors, otherwise take your trolling back to
Is october recent enough? I was in Russia (Karelia)
>October
imagine believing you have a valuable opinion on the outdoors when you only go on a sightseeing vacation twice a year
>look mom, i can search google images too
You fricking moron I literally called the file "Greece Gorge" that is not Karelia. You are moronic.
Also I usually go out more I wasn't able to this winter because I was taking care of my mother who was sick she had to live with me until she got better in late April.
Haha this dude lives with his mom!
Russia is garbage how could you even brag about it? The Russia I saw was worse and more primitive than most of Africa. Russia is the butthole of the world.
>In my view people should stay in europe
Only part of your nonsense I agree with.
Okay and? Gladly.
This.
Literally don't care what europoors think and yes, stay in fricking europe.
Why do you get to include all the countries of Europe but the US can’t include Canada and Mexico?
Fine include all of them... even if you include the carribean and all of central america my point remains. But that's awfully foolish to include them. Should Europeans include the middle east and Central Asia?
Europe is a continent so is North America.
Europe is a civilization. North America is a geographic arrangement. Include Canada whatever. My point remains.
You should include Africa and the Middle East to Europe since they’re so ingrained in European civilization now.
>Europe is a civilization
no it's not moron. You've ironically fallen for the American thinking of believing all white people are the same thing. 400 years ago the french would have beaten you for suggesting they're the same as Anglos and they're next to each other
Not all white people are the same. There are white Americans and I sure as hell don't sure a civilization with them.
And when did I say all Europeans are the same? Are you saying civilizations can never war with themslef?
You implied they're all the same when you called Europe a civilization. Europe is a continent with multiple civilizations on them.
>There are white Americans and I sure as hell don't sure a civilization with them.
what are you babbling about?
>thread with troll PrepHole bait OP turns into an PrepHole shitpost thread
I fricking knew it. Can't you gays leave us a lone and go shit up your own board instead?
>400 years ago the french would have beaten you for suggesting they're the same as Anglos and they're next to each other
Good thing we don't live 400 years ago. You are a fool and an idiot if you really think there is some abyssal chasm in between each European country. At this point, they share all the same essential interests and goals, especially the western countries.
Alaska is cheating since it's basically all federal land and not people scattered sparsely across its entire surface area.
US and Canada are more similar than Germany and France, and this doesn't even consider language. European countries are incredibly different. You can travel 100 miles inside a country and find that people, environment and cities will have changed significantly.
You're including Russia and it isn't part of the EU. So you're going by continental boundaries, not political, that means we get everything from Greenland to Panama.
What a moronation. Then we include all of Eurasia.
The US + Canada is a good comparison in terms of size and traveling possibilities to Europe proper including Iceland, and Russia up to the Urals (not just the EU).
So it's the most logical comparison.
You navigate using a cellphone don't you.
How horrifying. It's like being born in disneyland park and forced to live there.
This makes me sad. I'm pretty sure there is no old growth left in Europe at all. The US gets made fun of for not having buildings older than two centuries yet we have trees here older than modern Europe.
Yeah remember what the Frisians did to baldo mcchristian?
euopean wilderrness is over populated and build i mean UK snowdonia for instance, there is a tram that takes you to the top and roads/paths all over the place, as well as a fricking cafe/gift shop at the top as well, where as americas as wide open space that has that "im truely in the wild" feel to it compared to the dense Europes
nah but cairngorms or the highlands, and smaller areas in england and wales which arent as touristic are more like real wilderness
Is that how England used to look like before all the forests were cut down?
that's england now, and nah because there are a couple invasive species of trees in this pic
Those trees are Pakistani as well right?
north american
but good one
that is so incredibly bleak.
so, so, so fricking bleak.
sorry anon 🙁
yes gets me in the feels sometimes
how is the situation in your country?
oh about the same, only it's mexicans and other forms of southern mystery meat invading. progressives of course dress it up as being okay since "we're a nation of immigrants" or whatever drivel they can concoct (while not actually living in the god damn barrio themselves)
i'm pretty rural and in a still relatively homogenous county in a relatively homogenous part of the country (oregon); but in the last 3 years or so my small town has definitely been enriched at the hands of squat little indios and their obnoxious packs of little goblinas.
it's tolerable for now, but in 5 years or so it'll be unbearable.
try living in alabama 🙁
oh usa?
Sorry to tell you but it's alot worse out there bro.
Is say so.
that picture is just made up
If you actually look at data, 75% of births in the UK are white including 65% white british
i feel bad for you if you are moronic enough to believe it.
Meanwhile, only 52% of births in america are white (and that includes nafri and arabs)
By american standards of 'white', the uk has closer to 90% white births
Blame the CIA and the Rothschilds for murdering Kennedy.
I'm a 6'2 golden haired blue eyed whiteoid from Arizona and I am so accustomed to Chicanos that when I go out East or Down south I feel frightened and uncomfortable. The first time I layed over in Atlanta airport I felt like I wasn't even in America. Growing up it was you were either a Mexican or you were a giant blond person. But at this point the California and Midwest transpants (and intel) have brought a frickton of se asians and poo in loos.
I’m a 6’3 redhead in central California. Ditto.
We are getting lots of dirtbag punjabs here now, but it is predominately Mexican. Most other whites are generally older, as I think most others my age have left to raise families elsewhere. My trade doesn’t transfer, so I’m stuck, but where I am is nice.
I went to the Midwest a while ago, and it was alien being in old cities full of blacks.
>6’2”
>giant
6’2” is short tall moron. Now, oakies are tall.
>t. 6’2” blonde from SoCal.
All is lost. Glad I moved to Montana 10 years ago.
Moved to Montana, huh?
Must be from California.
The fact that okie is in your vocabulary proves it.
Triggered? Is your mind so distorted from /misc/ that you can’t comprehend that majority of white Californians aren’t/ weren’t libtard locals. Prop 187 homosexual, remember? Seems the israelites have colonized your mind by proxy.
I’m still here in CA. I know there are conservatives. The bay liberals are moving to the valley and trying to frick it up, but my house is now worth an assload.
I’m not triggered because you cut and ran. Sounds like you’re ashamed of your home, boy.
Same with Mt.Washington and other peaks in the US though
ffs its unescapeable =[
>Using east coast hills as an example of US mountains
lmao
>Want canyons?
Go to America
>Want deserts?
Visit America
>Want grasslands?
Visit America
>Want forests?
America has plenty
And more of all of them
yeah but its full of americans
touché
better than being full of euros, just imagine the smell
Ok you have a point. Americans are the worst thing about this country
>>Want canyons?
Go to Oregon
>>Want deserts?
Visit Oregon
>>Want grasslands?
Visit Oregon
>>Want forests?
Oregon has plenty
ftfy
*laughs in Californian*
As long as you also *stays in california*
California would be an amazing place, if not for the fricking Californians.
Texas would be an amazing place too, if not for the damn Texans.
Just kidding it'd still fricking suck lol
I was in temple and I feel bad for anyone living there. It’s a shithole
The best part of the lower plains is you are 8-10 hours from both the rockies and the ozarks and it is an ideal place for an earthship compound.
Not going to find a sasquatch or a chupacabra in denmark.
Also all super heroes are from the united states.
It's also the only place on earth you can see real Indians.
Nothing really compares. Only creepy sex tourists need to leave the US.
>If you go into nature in germany or france it won't feel any different than Alaska or Montana besides the landscape.
This is incredibly untrue. Europe, particularly western europe, doesn't have real wilderness.
Europe has been densely populated for millennia and pretty much everything is developed. It is completely different from a place like Alaska.
you can't go PrepHole as freely as you are in America without paying 4206969 euros of fines for breaking silly rules
Also this too. Backcountry camping is illegal even on most public lands. In the USA it's encouraged for you to wild camp.
Basically all you have to do is avoid the blue parts.
what about the grey area that covers most of usa?
The gray area is just land that's not federally owned. So for example, the 2.2 million acres of Pennsylvania covered in state forest, is gray on this map despite being over four times the size of the green area shown for PA.
>all thoose different legal definitions of land
thank god i dont need to worry about any of that
>is it developed for farming, industry or housing?
>if no i can go there if yes i cant and i wouldnt anyway
Wait you can't just own land but not farm on it? Do they require you to cultivate anytime you own some land?
huh? off course you can.
Then how is it not just unzoned land?
what does it matter?
also im not into your legal definitions, our laws specificly say that undeveloped land are open for everyone regardless of ownership or zoning and thats simple and outdoors friendly.
So you can just have someone come onto your private land? Then how exactly do you own that land?
they cant fish, hunt, do logging, rezone it, develope it, farm it, buildt anything on it, sell it or make any profit from it. thats what ownership means and the general consensus here is its much better to have locals owning the local land and wilderness than some stupid politicans in the capitol.
dunno, the idea behind BLM managed land is great; they keep leeches and parasites like weyerhaueser and mega ranches from buying up everything and keeping the common plebe out.
in general though, definitely agree with you; local ownership = local accountability. what irritates me is areas around here (PNW) that are sold off to the sierra club or other out of state NGO's that try to keep the locals out.
i will not respect your no trespassing signs, get fricked.
Damn that's so much gayer than owning a property in texas and being able to hunt feral hogs and invasive rams, sitka deer every single day plus whitetail, sandhill crane, duck, peccary when in season. Like if you buy land you should be able to do whatever you want with it. Do you just not have enough to have public land plus cheap pasture/brush?
that typo was so obvious i though anyone could see it. its what land owners can.
you need to understand land ownership here can mean 5acres of housing, barn, garden, parking with 300acres of gras/farmland surrounding that with 200 acres of forest and somewhere in the mountains 30min drive away another 500acres of basicly nothing that was traditionally used for summer foraging for goats, cows and sheep.
come hiking into the first two and you will be threated with the same attitude as you have, thats our private property so piss off. come into the last two and we tell you our secret fishing spots and where its nice to camp. why would we give up this in favour or goverment control?
That's very very few acres in American terms anon. Maybe people in Pennsylvania or something could relate.
duh, all the muh propert tards here end up having like a 5acre """homestead""" in a suburb.
yes in shear farming size you mog us, there simply isnt enough flat land for that here, a farm here is small af. but that wasnt the point who wants to go hiking in farmland anyway? point is our wild land and mountains is a clusterfrick or vaguely mapped private ownership mixed with some state land, all open for public hiking and if you pay some allow hunting and fishing. even parts of our national parks are privately owned.
so there is no need to look at maps to find open trails or public land, if its a place you want to go and you dont bother someone then you can just go there.
We pasture beef cattle even in areas of that sort. Canada is most like the Scandanavias in that it is also forests and tundras but there isn't the biome diversity or especially uniqueness that the states offer. They have the same chain lakes and endless swaths of area to go. However, they have terrible gun and hunting laws. Ontario mogs the shit out of anything in Europe for chain lakes or otherwise. The four corners mog for the canyons to alpine biome changes and fauna diversity.
5 acres regardless if it's a 'suburb' or not, is quite a lot; and you can do quite a bit with it.
the average american house is on like .10 acres, tops.
that said, the problem seems to be zoning and county jurisdictions -- they LOVE to force you to put your house as close to other dwellings as possible. so it's very likely you can have 10+ acres and still have a fricking shithead neighbor next door with barking dogs, music, and all the other bullshit you moved out to the country to escape.
(slightly sore subject.)
If you don't they make you have a PO box.
It's land owned by individual states, counties etc. plus private land. Eastern states own more of their public land outright. Western states have most of their land technically owned by the feds.
The blue parts are blue for a reason. Yeah they're crowded as hell, but they're some of the most astounding natural phenomena in the world. Yellowstone alone has more than half the world's geysers.
The only places with walls like Yosemite are like lauterbrunnen in the Alps, and Yosemite's walls are STILL twice as tall. The US's national parks are world class phenomenal and there's a reason it draws in people from all across the world.
Go see both you idjit. Europe has very cool stuff, as does America, why should they exclude each other? For example, as a Yuro I'd like to go to America for the animals that we can't see here - gator, racoon, elk, bison, manatee etc.
I'm a European who has been to the USA and can confirm that the US wilderness is on another level when compared to Europe. We are just too densely populated for the experience to be the same - it's that simple.
>conveniently excludes Norway, Sweden and Finland
clever
Alaska and canada wouldn't be on the continental us map either moron
that wasn't a map of continous usa you dumbfrick
And if you included the scandinavian peninsula (of asia) it still (still) wouldn't be 1/10th of the wild lands of North America.
Then again, the wild lands of north america aren't 1/10th of the scandinavian wilderness in terms of beauty and awe
Kek babby mountains
Massive cope
What is that bit across from England? Belgium? How horrifying.
There's some pretty dark spots in Spain though
Belgium and the Netherlands. About as densely populated as you can get
>There's some pretty dark spots in Spain though
Yes, but 90% is like pic related
>Belgium being a radiant beacon of civilisation
God I love that country
You poor globohomo-begotten soul
>Europe is better than America for landscapes
this seems a bit of a stretch considering both have varied and beautiful terrain
>If you go into nature in germany or france it won't feel any different than Alaska or Montana besides the landscape.
This seems incredibly moronic when there is simply so much more roadless true wilderness in both states as compared to either country....morever, the amount of wildlife in Europe pales in comparison to the volume and variety of in either of those stares; Grizzly & black bears, wolves, coyotes, Big Horn sheep, Mt Goats, Mt Lions, Bobcats, Lynx, Bison, Moose, Elk, Pronghorn, mule deer, white tailed deer, wolverines, pine marten...and probably more I am forgetting.
Alaska alone has designated wilderness equal to 2/3rs the size of the entire country of Germany.
I think you need to get /out more.
>Alaska alone has designated wilderness equal to 2/3rs the size of the entire country of Germany.
/thread
>morever, the amount of wildlife in Europe pales in comparison to the volume and variety of in either of those stares; Grizzly & black bears, wolves, coyotes, Big Horn sheep, Mt Goats, Mt Lions, Bobcats, Lynx, Bison, Moose, Elk, Pronghorn, mule deer, white tailed deer, wolverines, pine marten...and probably more I am forgetting.
This. One of the main reasons I would love to go to America is the different wildlife there that you just can't experience here in Europe.
I would also love to hike in the California redwoods.
>I have been told American plains and flatlands and grasslands are more interesting because the heat lightening and powerful storms are awesome. But so? So you're saying Europe cannot do awe inspiring stuff?
I think you are missing the point. It's not about having the sane or having awe inspiring beauty it is about difference, in location and feel. The same way backpackers who have done every part of the Appalachian want to go to the Alps or Urals etc
You're butthurt that your friends are going to the US without you?
I did a hiking trip to the US (from Belgium) last April and vastness of the wilderness is something you just don't get in the EU. Everything is way bigger than you imagine. The Grand Canyon for example was much more impressive than I expected.
Sure, the more touristy trails, even though they are also incredible, are pretty much on par with stuff here in the EU but there's just so much more to explore.
Correct.
Europe is very, very beautiful. But practically every square inch has been developed to provide sustenance for human beings for centuries.
It's impossible to find wilderness on the same scale as in the Americas.
>The Grand Canyon for example was much more impressive than I expected
No kidding. Pictures don't do it justice.
>Europe has more nature than the US
Buddy, the square mileage of public land in the US is almost as much as the size of your entire fricking continent.
>To me it's Americentrism
That's a lie
europe is the size of texas, that's why
i think you misunderstand just how much different the population density is in most of europe vs the US.
to put it in perspective, i'm about 35 miles from the nearest 'city' and 10 from the nearest town; however I can literally walk out my backdoor and be in a forest where there isn't likely to be another soul for miles and miles -- are there any areas in western europe with population density that low?
going 'out' surrounded by dozens of complete strangers is qualitatively different than being out and actually getting enjoy solitude and nature. i imagine hiking in western europe as being a lot like the more popular areas in the US like yosemite/arches/zion etc -- too many fricking people ruining it.
why not both? There is beautiful nature all around the world, your friends seem to understand that, why not you? Sure, you can spend your vacations going somewhere in Europe and it would be great, or you could go to America or Asia or Africa and it would also be great with more exotic flare.
There's places in America that Europe can't offer to the same extent and the same is true vice versa, don't get your panties in a twist. nature inclined Americans dream of going to the Alps or Norway or Iceland, nature inclined Europeans dream of going to Yellowstone or Hawaii or the desert Southwest
wholesome post
wow yuros really are obsessed with america
wow yuros really are obsessed with america
Europe cannot provide a place geographically the same as southern Utah. Prove me wrong.
dunno what utah is but if it is one of those desert countries i would have to disagree
Southern Utah/Northern AZ have the greatest redrock canyons on earth. People usually specify Southern UT because you won't fricking die trying to paddle it like you would in GC proper. Plus the actual GC takes 2-3 weeks to paddle the whole thing. It is just far too advanced for beginners to do. Canyonlands and the San Juan near Mexican hat and Glen Canyon are all easy and nearly flat water. Very beginner friendly.
i have no idea what those abbreviations stand for because im not american
me being from Finland, the land of thousand lakes can appreciate anything that has something do do with paddling though
The Grand Canyon is 365km of continuous canyon river paddling.
i don´t mean to sound mean or belittle you´re national treasures but having such people density must mean that places like that, huge as they may be must be almost always full of people
They restrict permits to even visit parks like this to absurdly low numbers. Now national recreation lands and forests we can just go to whenever. But easily in my state of Arizona I can drive into Tonto national forest and hunt or shoot guns with nobody around for miles. Only eastern bugs have to live in the hives where even if they try to escape they see 60 people. The western population density is extremely low. In the northeast you can drive for 3 hours and not see a house while doing 120kmph.
Reminds me of one time driving straight through from Reno to Austin, that was an extremely long boring drive full of fricking nothing for hours on end. Outside of Las Vegas there isn't even any real city in between, unless you count Lubbock but that's mostly just cattle lots and shit anyway. So ~24 hours of driving at interstate speed and 90% of it was just empty wilderness.
>me being from Finland, the land of thousand lakes can appreciate anything that has something do do with paddling though
Then you should like Minnesota...Land of 10,000 lakes (actually something like 14,000)
>calling a body of water the size of a cattle pond a "lake" so that you can arbitrarily claim that your state has 14000 lakes
Hey. Can you stop gayging up the board with your shitty posts and your homosexual picture? It's not cute or clever.
I've been on PrepHole longer than you, election tourist.
Avatar use is a reportable offense. Respond appropriately and within the rules.
Calm down Karen.
>the type that uses 'karen'
Go to sleepmode.
>The type of Karen that gets mad at being called Karen for telling other people to report something that didn't happen
>even though that is a reportable offense
Newf..karen.
I understand you've been conditioned with a corrupted view of the world, but to those otherwise in the thread;
the "meme of karens" from years ago was meant to prime people to make fun of those who question authority (the manager), funnily enough these are the same people who sat in pens since the end of 2019 for atleast a year, more two, and some still do today. So yeah, using the term in 2022 shows you didnt learn much about 'what really happens' and how weak you are to outside conditioning.
But for PrepHole, if you think reporting derailing/spam/b/-tard tier posts for what they are is anything but trimming shitty leaves off a plant then you are lost.
Good shit
Lack of brevity is a hallmark of low iq, Karen. You also have the reading compression of a toddler.
I'll try to use small words so there is a slight chance you could understand:
1) no one did the thing you accused them of doing
2)the thing you did is a reportable offense
This isn't reddlt--telling people to upvoat or downvoat is groupthink nonsense. Stay mad, midwit.
>If you explain your reasoning with more than four-letter words you are what bad word or the month I say you are.
Ah, an irrational. Good day.
(:
>rambling and lack of coherent thesis is "reasoning"
>has to change the subject after getting wrecked for saying stupid shit
>has to tone police
>I have the reading comprehension of a toddler but you're irrational reeee
You got problems lady
Call the cops, we need order!
Minnesota borders Lake Superior, I think they know what a lake is.
>moronic cope
you are right. There are no lakes in MN its all liberal propaganda
Correct.
That's why so many Finns settled there.
>Go to urals,
hahhaha
Your friends are going for sex tourism. Its well-known that America is crawling with feral and insatiable ebony hotties who agressively drain dorky Yuropeans of their Nordic seed. They didn't tell you this because they didnt want to share any of that chocolaty goodness.
Shhhh....
i don't understand this discussion at all. Why do you care if others go out of europe? Isn't it specifically about being alone in the nature? what do you gain when everyone is persuaded by your points, thinks the same and stays in europe?
It's kind of a pointless opinion you have
Comparing Europe to America is comparing apples to bananas. At least in my experience.
In Europe you won't be able to walk out into the brush, clear some trees and build a shelter. And Europeans coming to America won't be able to do it either, unless they have a local to show them where they can do it without getting shot.
In America, everywhere you go you will need to rent a car to get to your trail head, then leave it parked during most of your stay. In Europe you can hop on a train in London to Glarus, get a bus, then a cable car up to Mettmen and you'll be set for a week of hiking between huts. Or a ferry to Oslo, bus to the Telgen and you're set for a week of hiking and camping in the Jottenheim.
Huts are also very different - in Europe they have meh food but sell beer and wine. In America, in the East they have simple but copious food but no alcohol. Huts in the West don't serve anything.
>PrepHole is leaking again
FRICK OOOOOOOOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
do americans really?
Greenland isn't Europe.
europeans are really just haughty. I appreciate beauty in america and in europe. I like fishing in america and in europe. The fish grow big both places. They're hard and fun to catch both places. The wildlife is jaw dropping everywhere, if you know how to look at it. Comparing american landscapes to european ones is, in my opinion, a pissing contest where the contestants are pointed towards each other. They're too different places. If you're caught up on my homeland is prettier than yours, than you're too clouded by an undeserved sense of superiority and pride. You won't be able to appreciate the beauty others have for themselves.
Going outdoors in North America is really truly a totally different thing than any experience you can have in Europe, apart from maybe Russia. You really shouldn't speak on it until you've been here.
>If you go into nature in Germany or France it won't feel any different than Alaska or Montana besides the landscape.
No anon, you'll see far less people in the US and Canada, it'll be way more peaceful compared to Western Europe. Far less light pollution. Not to mention that you can get land for dirt cheap there but that's a different subject.
That being said these are no excuses to abstain from going PrepHole in Europe because as you said we have a lot of beautiful places here, and peaceful too if you know where to look.
Obviously, america dont even have freedom to roam
>No freedom to roam in America
Wild camping and backcountry hiking is way easier in the USA than most of west europe. You can drop a tent anywhere on BLM lands. In Germany you get fined for it.
Wasn't there a eurogay complaining of that the other day in a thread?
There was an entire thread about that, and then a previous one about how awful Germany is. OP saw those posts and started seething.
We have a better national park system than any other country in the world and you're just being cynical.
Kinda weird to have sør-spitsbergen over norway lol what kind of american made this map? Even though svalbard belongs to norway its not on norways main land, it should be hardangervidda, not sør-spitsbergen
I should be Lysefjorden or some other majestic fjord, that's what's unique here.
Or Finnmarksvidda in winter with the aurora borealis if you want open plains.
That's the thing about Norway, there's way too much to choose from, one picture doesn't do it justice.
meme map showing biggest national park in each country, which is completely irrelevant for nordic right to roam countries
>Sør-Spitsbergen
It's not in Norway geographically, it's outside the map, to the north.
You barely see some of Svalbard on the top of that map.
Still Norway, but pretty fricking moronic to make that the picture for Norway, though we have tons of similar terrain on the mainland too.
The map shows the largest National park in each country
That would be Hardangarvidda for Norway. Sør-Spitsbergen is the largest one on Svalbard, which is an island north of Norway, so it doesn't really make sense to put that over Norway even though Svalbard belongs to Norway.
You have roughly 70-100 years to live and if you have an average dutch income, you could extensively travel throughout Europe, the Americas, Africa, Asia, and Australia.
But if you want to just stay in Europe, and discover every nook and cranny, you'll still have a rich and beautiful life.
As for me, I want it all.
rural china is where i hike
Are you a human trafficker?