Altis armed forces

Why did the AAF spend the money for two armor companies when those resources could've been put to better use for a small island nation?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >why does a country led by a military dictatorship and buoyed by China (which is antagonizing NATO) focus on buying expensive military hardware ?
    gee anon I wonder

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, but there is plenty of expensive military hardware more pertinent to an island nation's needs, like naval assets and aircraft.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >china is le evil!
      boring premise

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know, I would probably put the AAF at a couple Divisions, not a single brigade.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That chart is a nicer version of one created by BiS; it is canon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not OP, but the size of AAF forces on Altis and Stratis are portrayed as much too large in-game for the island's size
      true, it's a military junta and there is mass conscription, on top of huge military spending with economic backing from China, but even four tanks for such a tiny country is pushing it, and they have 16-20!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In-game I agree, the AAF is way too numerous for their supposed size. They appear to have more troops than the Iranians despite supposedly having 4 times less.

        they need to be numerous for gameplay purposes. in terms of lore it doesn't make sense still because what runs the altian economy? Looking around the map the only answers can be fish, olives, crops, solar energy, tourism, and the few mines scattered around the island. the AAF should be nothing more than dudes with rifles in old helicopters and trucks, not Leo2 revolutions and warrior IFVs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Incidentally I was just replaying the campaign as spartan Kerry and took a look at the AAF force structure thingy that's accessible from the map. They have 6 fricking gripens, on top of 6 trainer aircraft that double as CAS platforms. Their tank and IFV force is insanely large for such a small island, as well. If they had spared the money for just a couple attack choppers and some recon drones, they would have easily found the FIA.

          >Looking around the map the only answers can be fish, olives, crops, solar energy, tourism
          From actually exploring what I could during the scouting missions, I noticed that there's basically no civilians. The entire island population is male soldiers. There's not a single female in all of the campaign.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >They have 6 fricking gripens
            >If they had spared the money for just a couple attack choppers and some recon drones, they would have easily found the FIA.
            The issue is these things were afterthoughts added in DLC, not baked in the original AAF structure.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There's not a single female in all of the campaign.
            that's just because the way the outfit system works meant adding women properly would mean a lot more work than a2.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, Altians are just gay.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There's not a single female in all of the campaign.
            that's just because the way the outfit system works meant adding women properly would mean a lot more work than a2.

            Nah, Altians are just gay.

            >There's not a single female in all of the campaign.
            there are 2 in arma 3 but voice only, one in laws of war and one in contact
            women appear in prerelease screenshots and also are refferenced in the code

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Sus

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I dont think anybody would have minded if they were just complete unchangeable models like in arma 2. Like I get there are female players and a bunch of troons, but most of the player base would never have considered dressing up and playing as a woman, so they wouldnt have even noticed you couldnt. Every mod other than 50shades that adds women has them pre-dressed and nobody cares. Its the males voices they have that are spooky.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The devs were afraid people would do weird things with women NPCs, like set up massacres.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What, like that skyrim player that collected the severed heads of every killable female character in his house?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's a made up story. You can't carry severed heads into houses and you can't choose to behead someone as a finisher in Skyrim. It's random.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is a mod where you can adjust the probabality of finishing moves (among other things related to combat) and a mod where you can collect bodies in your inventory.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I remember prone crawling to see up women's skirts in Arma 2.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Arma 2 was hot girls

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I remember prone crawling to see up women's skirts in Arma 2.

                this was one of the official arma 2 promotional images before release

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                holy based

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Great times.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/35UxgDR.jpg

              [...]
              this was one of the official arma 2 promotional images before release

              holy based

              Great times.

              arma 3 prerelease screenshot

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That reminds me of when I was playing a mod mission where you have to scuba dive through a sunken aircraft carrier at night and fight against enemy assault divers. I switched on thermal mode and got some kino screenshots.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds cool.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nta, but i know what hes talking about you can find the scenario on the workshop, its called LIBERTY [SP], no mods required

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Tyvm. Will definitely try it out

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no worries, check out some of the authors other stuff as awell

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >but even four tanks for such a tiny country is pushing it, and they have 16-20!
        look how many tanks Greece has, then look at Germany, France or the UK

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          dumbass Altis isn't all of Greece, it's Lesbos with a population of 100000

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So is that population from the game or irl?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's a lotta Lesbos.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Lesbos
            It's Lemnos (Aka Limnos), Altis is about 95% of the real size

            So is that population from the game or irl?

            irl Lemnos has a pop of 16,411,
            there are some settlements in Altis that are not present on the real Lemnos, so Altis might be slightly higher, but given it is 95% of the size that might reduce the population as well

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/gPELT51.png

              the coordinates given for altis are here

              >Altis is about 95% of the real size
              How is altis not 100% the size of Lemnos when the lagoon is dried up and turned into the salt flats?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Lesbos
                It's Lemnos (Aka Limnos), Altis is about 95% of the real size

                [...]
                irl Lemnos has a pop of 16,411,
                there are some settlements in Altis that are not present on the real Lemnos, so Altis might be slightly higher, but given it is 95% of the size that might reduce the population as well

                i got it wrong its meant to be about 75%

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus, that would've been too big to run properly in 2013. Would be cool though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the largest map bohehmia have made was the 120x120km south asia map from take on helicopters, which was the south of takistan, with parts of karzeghistan and ardistan
                based on terrain from the California arizona border

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        South Ossetia is an unrecognized country of 50k people and they have around 30 tanks (granted they're T-55s and T-72s and we don't even know if they work but still)
        They even rock a couple Mi-8s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fair. The AAF would be much more plausible if they were operating exclusively out of gorgons, with nothing heavier in their arsenal. The tanks are basically only there for multiplayer parity. Another thing is the lack of artillery, before tanks dlc added the MRL, the only artillery they had was mortars. A small light infantry military using fire force tactics like the AAF are depicted as ingame, would have a heavy emphasis on artillery.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do they have choppers to get around the island quickly?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, they have merlins and wildcats

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Pretty meager

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's supposed to be outdated. The AAF arsenal is old German and British shit

        • 1 month ago
          Yukari

          in fairness to BI, every vehicle the AAF has, save for the Strider, is supposed to be older and inferior to its NATO/CSAT counterparts, just made more capable for the sake of game balance in multiplayer
          I mean their main fighter jet for years was a 1960s Czech trainer with some incredibly basic modernizations

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lemnos (Altis) is tiny, the population isn't enough to even support a brigade, more like a battalion (hence why the AAF is composed of companies).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Another thing, what kind of value does Stratis have to the Altis? The terrain is steep, you can only fit one port town and an abandoned village. The land the airbase sits on looks artificially constructed (how did the government even pay for that?)

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it was built during WW2 by the US gov't initially

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ah I see

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In-game I agree, the AAF is way too numerous for their supposed size. They appear to have more troops than the Iranians despite supposedly having 4 times less.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe the answer is the AAF is shaped around suppressing the FIA, so MBTs serve as a deterrent to defend critical installations. They are also highly intimidating to insurgents only armed with small arms and soft armor.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oh yeah, that's a nice chart

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks Joe

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CSAT unironically have the most sensible ORBAT. 1 brigade of 1 tank battalion, 1 mech battalion, 1 motorized battalion, 1 spec ops battalion, 1 artillery battalion and 1 helicopter squadron. Mix and match as the mission demands, easy peasy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      CSAT is the only thing that makes sense safe for the soft armor

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >CSAT is the only thing that makes sense safe for the soft armor
        Whats wrong with that? If frag is the big killer, making your guys immune to that in exchange for not wearing rifle protection is an entirely reasonable course of action. Their suits are even air conditioned, they covered all their bases. Plus its a videogame, they only don't wear plates to balance them with NATO who have better bullet protection but bare limbs, an IRL CSAT would scale protection with the mission requirements, but that would obviously break king of the hill and make fighting them in campaign miserable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Their suits are even air conditioned
          But do they jack them off?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      CSAT are muzzie and chink scum.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Atlis is also unfit for armored warfare, look at the northwest.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's a single quarter of the entire map, and most of it is traversable by road, even shitty roads
      the rest is either perfectly flat or urban/semi urban terrain surrounded by hills

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most of the island is flat farmland, or it's urban/suburban

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a roughly battalion sized force
    >made up of 3 battalions and a regiment
    OP, I'm afraid you might be moronic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't make it. It's from bohemia

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        there's also dlc missions that portray the AAF exactly as structured in the chart and with the unit compositions listed on the information page

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No artillery? Do all their indirect fires come from the airwing or something?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The information page says 1st Mechanized includes "Zamak MLRS." If you're an unfamiliar with the game's assets these are essentially BM-21 Grad with the rocket system on a Chinese truck.
      Furthermore, the AAF possessed 82mm mortars so it's not unreasonable to assume those could be operated by the infantry within 1st Mechanized.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        tbf Altis isn't really an island you would want to use inaccurate indirect fire systems because the odds of civilian casualties or infrastructure damage is high.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the odds of civilian casualties or infrastructure damage is high.
          I don't think the military dictatorship cares about this when they literally destroyed their greatest historical town with a cluster bomb just to spite the FIA.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/uKqBqVP.jpg

            my brother in Christ, the AAF junta did all of the following:
            >dropped a cluster bomb on a small town just because they couldn't starve them out fast enough, killing civilians, including a foreign aid doctor, and leaving the town full of UXO
            >shelled another town as a reprisal after local guerillas shot down an AAF helicopter
            >killed a village full of civilians on suspicion they were FIA insurgents (they were not)
            >dumped landmines all across Stratis and didn't bother to remove them
            >used towns repeatedly to defend against the NATO invasion
            they DO NOT CARE about the natives, nor the country itself. It's a Chinese installed dictatorship.

            The AAF didn't drop the cluster bomb intentionally. Miller tricked them into doing it.

        • 1 month ago
          Yukari

          my brother in Christ, the AAF junta did all of the following:
          >dropped a cluster bomb on a small town just because they couldn't starve them out fast enough, killing civilians, including a foreign aid doctor, and leaving the town full of UXO
          >shelled another town as a reprisal after local guerillas shot down an AAF helicopter
          >killed a village full of civilians on suspicion they were FIA insurgents (they were not)
          >dumped landmines all across Stratis and didn't bother to remove them
          >used towns repeatedly to defend against the NATO invasion
          they DO NOT CARE about the natives, nor the country itself. It's a Chinese installed dictatorship.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >dropped a cluster bomb on a small town just because they couldn't starve them out fast enough, killing civilians, including a foreign aid doctor, and leaving the town full of UXO
            They were given no choice. Also a foreign aid doctor supporting terrorists is just another terrorist.
            >shelled another town as a reprisal after local guerillas shot down an AAF helicopter
            A town sheltering terrorists, you can't just let them get away with murdering government forces. What kind of precedent does that set? Law and order.
            >killed a village full of civilians on suspicion they were FIA insurgents (they were not)
            Mistakes happen, and it's not something the AAF is proud of.
            >dumped landmines all across Stratis and didn't bother to remove them
            The island is only inhabited as a military training station, and terrorists have been known to trespass solely to sabotage the forces there. It's okay if there's mines in the woods.
            >used towns repeatedly to defend against the NATO invasion
            They were facing a foreign invasion, what choice did they have?

            • 1 month ago
              Yukari

              this is actually good bait, I'll give it a 7, but no (You)

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >The island is only inhabited as a military training station, and terrorists have been known to trespass solely to sabotage the forces there. It's okay if there's mines in the woods.
              this tbh. every civilian has long been evicted from the farms in stratis, and in most cases the buildings destroyed. there is no reason for non-AAF personnel to be there, if not to commit terrorist acts.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >The island is only inhabited as a military training station, and terrorists have been known to trespass solely to sabotage the forces there. It's okay if there's mines in the woods.
              this tbh. every civilian has long been evicted from the farms in stratis, and in most cases the buildings destroyed. there is no reason for non-AAF personnel to be there, if not to commit terrorist acts.

              filthy greenback hands wrote these posts

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Miller is just as bad if not worse than any Arma villain

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Millier was just doing his job, Mark Reynolds was probably worse

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Millier was just doing his job
                like the AAF?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                dont care, didnt ask, get earthquaked AAFoid

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically thise battalions are probably at 20-30% strength at the start of the game

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What makes you say that?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A hunch.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but the tank dlc makes clear they have regular desertions alongside getting hit by FIA, and that starts months before the east wind campaign.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying to work out exactly what 1st Mechanized would look like based on the lore so I'm keeping the thread on life support until then.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Okay I think I've got it. The info page says 1st Regiment consists of a command company and then companies Alpha through Echo.
      Here's Alpha company described as
      >12× Strider MRAPs (8× armed with 12.7 mm heavy machine guns, 4× armed with 40 mm automatic grenade launchers)
      It includes the vehicles, crew and dismounts.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bravo is next, vehicles, crews and dismounts included. Bravo is described as
        >1st Platoon (1st Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >2nd Platoon (2nd Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >3rd Platoon (3rd Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >4th Platoon (4th Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >5th Platoon (5th Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Charlie simply described as
          >12× AFV-4 Gorgon infantry fighting vehicles
          I'm assuming they have dismounts. I took the number of dismounts from vanilla editor's AAF mechanized composition that includes the dismounts, vehicles and crew for accuracy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Delta was more difficult.
            >1st Platoon (1st Pt)
            >Operates 4× MBT-52 Kumas, an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras
            >2nd Platoon (2nd Pt)
            Operates 4× MBT-52 Kumas and an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras
            i decided to attach two Moras to each tank platoon and their dismounts.
            >3rd Platoon (3rd Pt)
            >Operates an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras and Zamak MRLs.
            >3rd Platoon (3rd Pt)
            >Operates an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras and Zamak MRLs.
            I again attached two Moras and dismounts to these platoons, and decided two Zamak MLRS per platoon was the most reasonable for the AAF.

            This was one is definitely iffy because it's unspecified so I had to fill it in myself, but I believe it's reasonable. It defiintely seems like the tip of the spear for the AAF.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Lastly, there's echo.
              >1st Recon Platoon (1st Pt)
              >Operates 2× AWC 303s (Recon variants) and 2× AWC 304s (Autocannon variants)
              >2nd Armored Platoon (2nd Pt)
              > Operates 2× AWC 304s (Autocannon variants) and 2× AWC 301s (AT variants).
              >3nd Armored Platoon (3nd Pt)
              > Operates 2× AWC 304s (Autocannon variants) and 2× AWC 301s (AT variants).
              >4nd Armored Platoon (4nd Pt)
              > Operates 2× AWC 304s (Autocannon variants) and 2× AWC 301s (AT variants).
              >5th Anti-Air Platoon (5th Pt)
              >Operates 3× AWC 302s (AA variants) and 1× AWC 303 (Recon variant).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Here's what everyone together looks like. This is just the 1st Regiment and there's still 3rd Regiment Support, Air Wing Mixed Aviation, and Maritime/Coastal Patrol. Save for the Air Wing, there isn't enough specified information to model the other units.

                The 1st probably has so much information avaliable for gameplay purposes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How did this lose to the FIA?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Attrition, and its worth noting most of it probably wasn't operational at any given time. The majority of the AAF is second hand western shit, and even with blank checks from CSAT, if nobody wants to do business with you then it doesn't count for much. If the warrior for example is even still in production in 2035 (I doubt it, the whole reason the AAF had it is because the brits retired it, same with the F2000s which are said to be ex-brit mil), then I doubt they'll be supplying parts to an Iranian proxy in the Mediterranean. They may be able to maintain the Kumas through the Greeks, since they presumably inherited them from when Altis was Greek, but the Greeks are basically never mentioned ingame and they don't bother it intervene in the massive east vs west war that happens on their doorstep, so my impression is they have completely washed their hands of the junta and wouldn't do shit for them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I see. How did the FIA end up with Tavors though?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Who knows? I think ingame they're aid from CTRG, but in the alpha they were a CSAT rifle because Israel was one of the countries that got quake'd along with turkey and tanoa and so became part of CSAT, but I don't think that's the case in the full release since NATO wouldn't use vehicles from a CSAT country.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I had always thought Blufor was to be Israel and that's why they use all their armor. That would also align with the Tavors.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ive heard the same thing, but there's very little solid info on the pre-rewrite A3 plot beyond what can be gleaned from screenshots, e3 footage and ancient forum posts. It would fit though. Id love to read a making of arma 3 book, where they went over what the original plan was and elaborated on the setting, but BIS seem to have moved on.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Id love to read a making of arma 3 book, where they went over what the original plan was and elaborated on the setting, but BIS seem to have moved on.
                Yeah you are right. Shame

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                From what I've seen posted, and seen in the code of the game, it looks like the original plot of Arma 3 was to be the Greece+Israel fighting against Iran, maybe Turkey, and Iran-backed terror cells. Bohemia probably wanted to go with a semi-believable flashpoint conflict like they tend to do, but realized that such a contentious setting might endanger their military simulator deals with the US Gov and other NATO countries.

                It's the same kind of problem the Marvelgays ran into after Avengers with the military trying to nuke New York. The DoD said they wouldn't provide any assistance to the films if they portrayed the government attempting something that would kill massive amounts of civilians and paint them as an obvious bad guy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >From what I've seen posted, and seen in the code of the game
                I kinda doubt you when you say you've seen the code in the game. How did you see it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's easily readable by anyone with any semblance of coding or just game modding knowledge, anon-kun. I was able to figure it out when I was 16 through YouTube guides and forum posts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can stow the bragging if you have nothing to show for it. Simple file names in the game folders are not code. Show me how you decrypted and unpacked the files to see the code. I'll wait, Anon-Tan.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nta but, arma 3 is a modeble game, the devs want people to see the code,
                there is even a website explaining the codes and how to edit them for modding
                >https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Arma_3:_Editing

                here is the code the controls the bleed out rate for wounded characters

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can stow the bragging if you have nothing to show for it. Simple file names in the game folders are not code. Show me how you decrypted and unpacked the files to see the code. I'll wait, Anon-Tan.

                here is the code for one of the voices

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/A7WMg0n.png

                [...]
                here is the code for one of the voices

                Anon, that is a glorified excel sheet with shitty formatting.
                Calling it code is really stretching it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're an excel sheet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No butthole, I represent as a powerpoint presentation and you will refer to me as such.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How about you excel spread your cheeks

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How about you bend over and powerpoint present your butthole

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Show me how you decrypted and unpacked the files to see the code.
                nta again but, you see this, it's free on steam it contains the tools you need to mod the game

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There it is that's right

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I did it when I was 16 and my brain is alcohol rattled by bohemia literally provides the tools on their website and steam page.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                part of the default tools setup creates a fake drive (P:) and unpacks all the game files for you.

                https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Work_Drive

                some limitations apply, 3D models cannot be opened and some DLC content used to be locked still (that may have changed in the last few years)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                it's not about bragging. it really is just easy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ;_; tfw too dumb to work out config edditing for reskins

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                maybe it's just the rest of us are speaking with 2k+ hours in the game.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                they also had a very public disagreement with the greek government, and iran formally complained and banned the game

                also there was meant to be a russian pmc getting involved in the original story aswell

                >From what I've seen posted, and seen in the code of the game
                I kinda doubt you when you say you've seen the code in the game. How did you see it?

                nta, but you can still see unused textures in the game files as well as some unused models, there are also references to unused charaters in the config files

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That is the first I've heard of any Russian PMC being in the original ARMA 3 story. It doesn't hold up, since Wagner was created in 2014, while Arma 3 released in 2013.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ah yes because wagner was the first and only ever russian pmc
                sorry for being rude but there were russian pmc's in syria in 2011
                it was probably bohemia being nostradamus again, considering they predicted ukraine and the chaotic afghan pull out

                the russian pmc in arma3 originally used what became the aaf camo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                forgot the picture, sorry

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/ovPnYTV.jpg

                forgot the picture, sorry

                its also why in the game files aaf textures are often called things like ru_hat.paa etc

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Black person thats one of the easiest things to confirm even without looking under the hood, their faction vest is still in the game unchanged and mostly unused.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > a contentious setting might endanger their military simulator deals

                It was a good decision. Arma makes BIS pennies compared to govt sim deals.

                t. guy who who works in the govt sim space and has worked with BIS

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Arma makes BIS pennies compared to govt sim deals
                arent they different companies since 2013, arma is Bohemia Interactive headquartered in Czechia and vbs is Bohemia Interactive Simulations headquartered in new york

                they had to clarify they were seperate after tenncent bought a minor stake in Bohemia Interactive as they were worried it would upset their gov sim deals

                Bohemia Interactive Simulations was bought by BAE in 2022

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Because theyre stupid

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm stupid, what is this image showing?if its 5 platoons of four squads why are there 5 trucks but only four of the armoured cars?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/uaYHAdk.jpg

        Bravo is next, vehicles, crews and dismounts included. Bravo is described as
        >1st Platoon (1st Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >2nd Platoon (2nd Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >3rd Platoon (3rd Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >4th Platoon (4th Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        >5th Platoon (5th Pt)
        >Comprises of 1st Squad, 2nd Squad, 3rd Squad, and 4th Squad.

        Cute

        https://i.imgur.com/URyEMr5.png

        Charlie simply described as
        >12× AFV-4 Gorgon infantry fighting vehicles
        I'm assuming they have dismounts. I took the number of dismounts from vanilla editor's AAF mechanized composition that includes the dismounts, vehicles and crew for accuracy.

        https://i.imgur.com/TVZACYJ.jpg

        Delta was more difficult.
        >1st Platoon (1st Pt)
        >Operates 4× MBT-52 Kumas, an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras
        >2nd Platoon (2nd Pt)
        Operates 4× MBT-52 Kumas and an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras
        i decided to attach two Moras to each tank platoon and their dismounts.
        >3rd Platoon (3rd Pt)
        >Operates an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras and Zamak MRLs.
        >3rd Platoon (3rd Pt)
        >Operates an unspecified number of FV-720 Moras and Zamak MRLs.
        I again attached two Moras and dismounts to these platoons, and decided two Zamak MLRS per platoon was the most reasonable for the AAF.

        This was one is definitely iffy because it's unspecified so I had to fill it in myself, but I believe it's reasonable. It defiintely seems like the tip of the spear for the AAF.

        Intimidating

        https://i.imgur.com/aNsZNhO.jpg

        Here's what everyone together looks like. This is just the 1st Regiment and there's still 3rd Regiment Support, Air Wing Mixed Aviation, and Maritime/Coastal Patrol. Save for the Air Wing, there isn't enough specified information to model the other units.

        The 1st probably has so much information avaliable for gameplay purposes.

        Scary

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          owo

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    very gool thnks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      :DDD

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Altis Junta is a formerly western oriented nation, now getting paid by the Chinese to mess with the US in the Mediterranean
    So if it’s all funded with bug money, wouldn’t it be more effective to sell them 4 corvettes and AShMs
    (Assuming things don’t just happen to create the setting of the game)

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is it ever really touched upon why Altis never got enosis'd into Greece proper?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      British protectorate, like Cyprus and Gibraltar.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      British protectorate, like Cyprus and Gibraltar.

      Altis is also not where the real Lemnos is, it is just off the coast of Libya

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the coordinates given for altis are here

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          just to give a sense of scale this is what it would look like on google maps

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stratis is tiny tiny

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What always upset me about all the militaries in Arma 3 is how random their soldiers are equipped. Things like

    >In the year 2035 we have decided to give half the NATO/CSAT/AAF soldiers the same shitty red dot sight their enemies use, or have them use iron sights, instead of a scope like militaries started doing since the 80's

    >Also we'll give NATO and CSAT the same night vision goggles, russian grenades, drones, boats, manpads, atgm's (both man-portable AND airborne), crew helmets, pilot helmets, AND we'll also make them both use 6.5 grendel because WE JUST CAN OK???

    >Let's also make the NLAW do jack shit against tanks and not give it a top attack approach because thats too hard or something to that effect
    >Ammo? Yeah we'll have the soldiers just store that in their shirts
    >Medkits? Put those inside the shirts aswell
    >Bulletproof vests and helmets? Nah NATO's special forces don't need those lol just give them some night vision goggles that go on top of their generic military caps
    >Hearing protection? What's that?
    >Also if you want to wear glasses and a ski mask at the same time YOU'RE NOT HECKING ALLOWED TO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most of that is just gameplay decisions. 2013 was the beginning where games traded logic and soul for balance and gameplay

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Probably because they were more worried about suppressing their population than defending from outside threats

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Arma 3 seems cool when you read about it but it sucks ass to play.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do lasers show up under thermal vision? It's not very realistic if you ask me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cause they're hot

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because can just remove/nerf anti air or anti armor weapons on your server and hugbox your autistic community harder like all of arma 3

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Those leopards were bought from Greece after an economic collapse, as per canon.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i NEED actual company sized + support element operations so bad....

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