My grandpa gave me his bring back sword. Had it appraised awhile ago. It was made in the late 19th century, can't remember the smith off the top of my head. Poor sword is in horrible condition because my grandpa stored it in a damp basement wrapped in carpet. Appraiser offered me 6k for it but I declined. Grandpa killed a nip for it so it would be a damn shame to just give it away for some cash.
Please see what you can do to get it restored and see if it can't go to a local museum. If you include your grandpa's name on the plaque his legend my live on for while longer
Dumbest thing anyone could do
That 6k will come in handy when his kid needs braces or he needs a dental implant or gets paid off and needs to keep his house
What is this Disney movie fag shit. Your grandpa would probably want you to have the money considering he didn’t seem to care about the sword. I mean he had like 80 years to store it properly if he did
Keep it.
Don't matter what they offer you, as long as your life doesn't depend on it.
You can only sell it once, and you'll likely regret it.
I lost such a family heirloom by giving it to a "friend" who claimed he'd give it to a restorer, never to be seen again.
its probably sitting in some bilionaires house, and they know exactly what it is and what its worth
there is a big trade in illegal art, artifacts, and fossils, rich people know its illegal and that just adds to value
they can show it off to their friends and say "oh heres the famous missing van gogh, over here is a skull of dinosaur undescribed by science, and here is my piece de resistance, the honji masamune, the sword passed down from shogun to shogun, i sometimes open bottles with it"
>Poor sword is in horrible condition because my grandpa stored it in a damp basement wrapped in carpet.
was gramps doing a biden or simply naturally retarded?
>Poor sword is in horrible condition because my grandpa stored it in a damp basement wrapped in carpet.
was gramps doing a biden or simply naturally retarded?
He probably didn't give a shit since all the swords looked alike.
He threw away most of his military stuff after the war,and never talked about it until he was on his deathbed. I'm surprised he even kept the sword.
Please see what you can do to get it restored and see if it can't go to a local museum. If you include your grandpa's name on the plaque his legend my live on for while longer
Do not donate weapons of any kind to museums. Ever. Museums hoard property like dragons hoard gold. Only about 1-3% of a museum's inventory is ever displayed. They keep most of it locked away in dark back rooms, which means folks out in the real world never get to see or use any of it. Same goes for artwork and ancient artifacts. Fuck museums
Fuck Museums and Art Galleries. Literally had a friend who ad art stolen by the israelite curator/ director of an art gallery.
The approached him to ``loan`` some roman artifacts and some folk art...then they asked if it could be ``transferred on loan`` Everything then went missing.
not only that, but they can sell your shit and you might not even find out about it for years. That has happened to some fossil collector buddies of mine.
i dont know what its like where youre form but museums in the uk often rotate exhibits so some of the items in storage are put on display
and in the uk you can contact the musuem and request to see an item and most museums have an archive viewing room where the item will be brought and you can examine the item under supervision
for some museums though you need a reason, you cant just say "yo show me the biggest diamond you have" but something like "i am writting a book about loamshire in the early middle ages, i understand you have a few artifacts from that time and location, can i see them please" or "i am an aritist and i would like to see this artifact for reference"
although unfortunatly items do get mislaid, and sometimes stolen
Yeah, I've got it. I train with it daily. When I'm ready, I'm flying to Japan and going straight to the Imperial Palace to duel Naruhito and exert my right to the throne.
heard numerous stories about this on a Japanese sword arts mailing list a few years back. 17th century sword bring-backs that some redneck used as a machete for brush clearing, sharpened with files and sandpaper, or antique katanas cut up into pieces to be ground down into hunting or fishing knives. Even more destructive than this were the thousands of swords the US dumped into Tokyo harbor. The vast majority of bring-backs were mass-manufactured guntos (crappy machine-made swords) dating from the 1920s to 1940s, mostly made from railroad tracks ripped up in China and sent back to Japan as raw materials. But mixed in with those were a few genuine historical-value antiques made by master smiths and taken home as souviners by GIs who had no idea what they had.
>17th century sword bring-backs that some redneck used as a machete for brush clearing, sharpened with files and sandpaper, or antique katanas cut up into pieces to be ground down into hunting or fishing knives.
I want to be angry about this but at the same time it’s pretty fucking funny
>general Walter Krueger (right) presents President Harry S. Truman (left) with a 650 year old Japanese sword >the general received the sword from a Japanese family while with the 10th Army occupation forces in Japan. >from: the scrapbooks of Matthew Connelly, Volume 2. >march 4, 1946
Most of them got dumped in the ocean sadly, Americans have no history so they never treat historical items with respect.
Went house to house stealing family heirlooms
and americans left a lot of their stuff in Germany after WW2
my great grandparents were blacksmiths in rural Germany
also rented out a few rooms as bed and breakfast
they had a barn full of american weapons after WW2
soldiers would stay for a few nights and leave most of their stuff upon returning home
officials never cared, so they all got stored in their "bunker"
it's still there today
my aunt and uncle live with their family in this house
the "bunker" is mostly used for garden equipment
but one room is completely filled with american WW2 (probably defunct) weapons, uniforms and other stuff
inb4 why "bunker"
i don't think it would be safe against any kind of explosion
my great grandfather build it himself
and it was mainly used to hide livestock (for own consumption) from NSDAP officials
Typical example of national treasures in Japan: >This Shrine is home to Futsu-no-Mitama, the legendary sword used by Emperor Jimmu to found the Japanese nation >May we see it? >No >Do you have any photos of it? >Also no
Similar rumor of US navy officers offering Napoleon political asylum in the USA, and his brother (whom previously successfully impersonated him on campaign), picrel
Technically they would be allied because of the war of 1812. Napoleon also sold louisiana to the US and was an enemy of the british. All those reasons seem good enough for me.
>Similar rumor of US navy officers offering Napoleon political asylum in the USA, and his brother (whom previously successfully impersonated him on campaign), picrel
Which is funny because Napoleon's body is in a huge tomb in the middle of Paris.
You can go see his huge casquet, a the Hotel des Invalides.
My grandpa brought two back, a regular one and a long. Dad gave the short one to a friend and ended up breaking the longer one when trying to cut some shit with it.
a 14 of the imortant artifact swords were taken from a japanese police station by a us soldier who told them that they should handed over
he gave his name as Sgt. Coldy Bimore (or something that sounded similar) of the Foreign Liquidations Commission
when people tried to trace the sword they asked the Foreign Liquidations Commission, and they said they never had a coldy bimore or any one with a name remotely similar
that sword and 13 other important artifact swords were taken from a japanese police station by a us soldier who asked that be handed over to him
he gave his name as Sgt. Coldy Bimore (or something that sounded similar) of the Foreign Liquidations Commission
when people tried to trace the swords they asked the Foreign Liquidations Commission, and they said they never had a coldy bimore or any one with a name remotely similar
So some random GI decided to pick up some loot off the books and ended up jacking 14 centuries old historic artifacts and now no one knows where the fuck they are?
It was on the books. He was ordered to pick the loot up per the U.S. occupation army's weapons confiscation policy. What became of it from there...nobody knows.
did some more reading, the 14 artifact swords belonged to the tokugawa family
I wouldnt be supprised if they were targeted, some guy heard that the tokugawa families sword collection were at this police station, so he went to go and get them or was sent by someone else.
I saw one of the theories is that US officers targeted the swords as they would make excelent trophies.
>family friends got grandpa katana from the war >kids of the Japanese guy come knocking one day asking if they'd have the sword >offer money >family friends say no they haven't seen it >sell it for higher elsewhere
kek
I don't think that's real. Most swords were made of iron, which rusts over time. Those blades are spotless. Probably made from stainless steel in the 80s. I'd give you $200 for them at most.
>Leddit
Anyhow
Had a great uncle who got off a officer he plugged in the Philippines with 6th ranger bat. Was appraised around 10-12k.
It's in a custom shadow box in my cousin living room now. Looks really nice
They think it might be in the American South somewhere. Somebody did a bunch of research and thinks that they were able to determine the true identity of the soldier to whom it was passed. The researcher tracked down his family a few years back and enquired, but the family wouldn't cooperate. Either they had no knowledge of it or were maybe hiding something...
I've encountered several WWII katanas (nothing too valuable) in the hands of the descendants of the guys who brought them back. People have no clue what they have. That sword is probably in a cardboard box under the guest bed in grandma's basement somewhere and nobody knows what it is. It'll probably sell for $300 at a small-town estate sale someday.
Honestly, if I had it I would donate it to a museum, I appreciate and own a nihonto, and I understand that it is too precious to have its beauty squandered by private collecting >I really hope it isn’t rusting away in some attic 🙁
Some kid found it in the attic and ruined it playing in the woods and chopping up trees and shit. Then buried it to keep it hidden, it is now rusting in the ground.
Alright you cunt, no sword is made to cut mail, and it’s not ideal for Japanese swords to contact other blades as once they deform they stay deformed unless maintenance is done, they are made of extremely hard steel, but once it deforms, it’s deformed, a European spring steel sword won’t permanently deform like a Japanese one will. >TL;DR Japanese swords can be damaged and chipped by use against hard targets, and no sword is meant to be used against armor, that’s what a fucking club is for
Sorry my nephew inherited it from my grandpa and he kinda hacked it up and painted it to make it look like a ninja dagger.
My grandpa gave me his bring back sword. Had it appraised awhile ago. It was made in the late 19th century, can't remember the smith off the top of my head. Poor sword is in horrible condition because my grandpa stored it in a damp basement wrapped in carpet. Appraiser offered me 6k for it but I declined. Grandpa killed a nip for it so it would be a damn shame to just give it away for some cash.
I would've sold it, your grandpa didn't seem to give much of a fuck about it.
Please see what you can do to get it restored and see if it can't go to a local museum. If you include your grandpa's name on the plaque his legend my live on for while longer
Dumbest thing anyone could do
That 6k will come in handy when his kid needs braces or he needs a dental implant or gets paid off and needs to keep his house
What is this Disney movie fag shit. Your grandpa would probably want you to have the money considering he didn’t seem to care about the sword. I mean he had like 80 years to store it properly if he did
Keep it.
Don't matter what they offer you, as long as your life doesn't depend on it.
You can only sell it once, and you'll likely regret it.
I lost such a family heirloom by giving it to a "friend" who claimed he'd give it to a restorer, never to be seen again.
Why didn't you take it back with force? I'd break bones.
The Honjō Masamune is worth millions of dollars. Not many people would have the luxury of keeping it.
I have it
its probably sitting in some bilionaires house, and they know exactly what it is and what its worth
there is a big trade in illegal art, artifacts, and fossils, rich people know its illegal and that just adds to value
they can show it off to their friends and say "oh heres the famous missing van gogh, over here is a skull of dinosaur undescribed by science, and here is my piece de resistance, the honji masamune, the sword passed down from shogun to shogun, i sometimes open bottles with it"
6k can go pretty quick.
But knowing you're permanently denying the family of an enemy closure will last forever.
bitch stfu
>Poor sword is in horrible condition because my grandpa stored it in a damp basement wrapped in carpet.
was gramps doing a biden or simply naturally retarded?
He probably didn't give a shit since all the swords looked alike.
Do the patterns on the sword look like this?
found the photo on my computer of the comparison
He threw away most of his military stuff after the war,and never talked about it until he was on his deathbed. I'm surprised he even kept the sword.
Do not donate weapons of any kind to museums. Ever. Museums hoard property like dragons hoard gold. Only about 1-3% of a museum's inventory is ever displayed. They keep most of it locked away in dark back rooms, which means folks out in the real world never get to see or use any of it. Same goes for artwork and ancient artifacts. Fuck museums
Why do they do that?
Kleptomania
>Why do israelites hoard wealth?
99% of shit in Museums is stolen property.
Fuck Museums and Art Galleries. Literally had a friend who ad art stolen by the israelite curator/ director of an art gallery.
The approached him to ``loan`` some roman artifacts and some folk art...then they asked if it could be ``transferred on loan`` Everything then went missing.
Your friend was 100% in on it. Everything has trackers now.
Assets on the books. Makes it easier to get loans, and the larger your collection the easier to get big donations.
not only that, but they can sell your shit and you might not even find out about it for years. That has happened to some fossil collector buddies of mine.
i dont know what its like where youre form but museums in the uk often rotate exhibits so some of the items in storage are put on display
and in the uk you can contact the musuem and request to see an item and most museums have an archive viewing room where the item will be brought and you can examine the item under supervision
for some museums though you need a reason, you cant just say "yo show me the biggest diamond you have" but something like "i am writting a book about loamshire in the early middle ages, i understand you have a few artifacts from that time and location, can i see them please" or "i am an aritist and i would like to see this artifact for reference"
although unfortunatly items do get mislaid, and sometimes stolen
my buddy has a ceremonial sword that his great uncle got in Okinawa
Bimore family heirloom. We turned it into a fire poker.
Shhhh don't tell anybody.
I do 😉
Yeah, I've got it. I train with it daily. When I'm ready, I'm flying to Japan and going straight to the Imperial Palace to duel Naruhito and exert my right to the throne.
heard numerous stories about this on a Japanese sword arts mailing list a few years back. 17th century sword bring-backs that some redneck used as a machete for brush clearing, sharpened with files and sandpaper, or antique katanas cut up into pieces to be ground down into hunting or fishing knives. Even more destructive than this were the thousands of swords the US dumped into Tokyo harbor. The vast majority of bring-backs were mass-manufactured guntos (crappy machine-made swords) dating from the 1920s to 1940s, mostly made from railroad tracks ripped up in China and sent back to Japan as raw materials. But mixed in with those were a few genuine historical-value antiques made by master smiths and taken home as souviners by GIs who had no idea what they had.
>17th century sword bring-backs that some redneck used as a machete for brush clearing, sharpened with files and sandpaper, or antique katanas cut up into pieces to be ground down into hunting or fishing knives.
I want to be angry about this but at the same time it’s pretty fucking funny
oh fugg I think there actually was a guy here who knew who had it: unironically a israelite. I lost the greentext on a corrupted hard drive
>general Walter Krueger (right) presents President Harry S. Truman (left) with a 650 year old Japanese sword
>the general received the sword from a Japanese family while with the 10th Army occupation forces in Japan.
>from: the scrapbooks of Matthew Connelly, Volume 2.
>march 4, 1946
Hey it's that guy that's very good at killing Frenchmen in Pennsylvania, normally with M2 combat cars and some schizo's in horses
there is no way those noses havent been edited, right?
make a really unnatural toothy smile in the mirror and look at your nose
Most of them got dumped in the ocean sadly, Americans have no history so they never treat historical items with respect.
Went house to house stealing family heirlooms
>start a war
>treat your enemies with overwhelming cruelty
>cry when your beloved chink beheader is thrown in the sea
Lol, lmao
>Americans have no history
Sure we do: Destroying those of lesser nations.
The Japanese deserved everything.
Shouldn't have cut the heads off POWs then.
How did the Japs lose the war if they had the sword that guarantees they get to go first when the battle starts?
Failed to win on the first turn.
Got speed blitzed afterwards.
Yeah in hindsight I set up a perfect Pearl Harbor joke there and just didn't see it
i have it
shouldnt have bombed pearl harbor if they want their precious sword
i'd give it back for a couple of big tit jap broads
and americans left a lot of their stuff in Germany after WW2
my great grandparents were blacksmiths in rural Germany
also rented out a few rooms as bed and breakfast
they had a barn full of american weapons after WW2
soldiers would stay for a few nights and leave most of their stuff upon returning home
officials never cared, so they all got stored in their "bunker"
it's still there today
my aunt and uncle live with their family in this house
the "bunker" is mostly used for garden equipment
but one room is completely filled with american WW2 (probably defunct) weapons, uniforms and other stuff
inb4 why "bunker"
i don't think it would be safe against any kind of explosion
my great grandfather build it himself
and it was mainly used to hide livestock (for own consumption) from NSDAP officials
You should take care of your illegal gun stash better
>You should take care of your illegal gun stash better
and do what with it?
maybe donate it to a museum
most of the guns are crappy Colts / M1 / M1903 anyway
with rust everywhere and not serviced for 75+ years
like 2/3 of the room is filled with clothes / backpacks and other misc stuff, so not even guns
and i'm not touching those, nasty
>yeah but what's in it for ME?
Based and being brown pilled
Very few were actually historically relevant but you did have the occasional officer who was larping with a 400 year old family blade.
Remember, to the winners go to the spoils. Shouldn't have fucked with Pearl Habor, bitch!
Typical example of national treasures in Japan:
>This Shrine is home to Futsu-no-Mitama, the legendary sword used by Emperor Jimmu to found the Japanese nation
>May we see it?
>No
>Do you have any photos of it?
>Also no
Still not quite as dumb as mormonism.
Mormonism is just the beta test for Scientology.
Mormon chads rise while prostates and cathocucks dwindle in real number (aka white people). Amish chads are similar.
I don't know what you think is going on with the Amish but they certainly aren't becoming a global religion anytime soon.
I don't care. Their mythology is too retarded for anyone with an IQ above room temperature to take seriously.
>"I'm buried here, trust me bro. I'm confirming it."
- Jiisazu Kuraisto
>Venom Christ
Similar rumor of US navy officers offering Napoleon political asylum in the USA, and his brother (whom previously successfully impersonated him on campaign), picrel
Seems very unlikely the US would offer asylum to Napoleon unless bribed. We didn't care about what was going on in Europe very much at that time.
Technically they would be allied because of the war of 1812. Napoleon also sold louisiana to the US and was an enemy of the british. All those reasons seem good enough for me.
An interesting thing about the US Navy and Napoleon was that secretary of the navy from 1905 to 1906 was the grand-nephew of Napoleon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joseph_Bonaparte
>Similar rumor of US navy officers offering Napoleon political asylum in the USA, and his brother (whom previously successfully impersonated him on campaign), picrel
Which is funny because Napoleon's body is in a huge tomb in the middle of Paris.
You can go see his huge casquet, a the Hotel des Invalides.
WE WUZU CHRIST-SAMA
>May the Emperor see it?
>No.
>muttoids looting national treasures
its what happens when you mix anglos with joggers
Somewhere out there there's a boomer who don't know what he got.
My grandpa brought two back, a regular one and a long. Dad gave the short one to a friend and ended up breaking the longer one when trying to cut some shit with it.
a 14 of the imortant artifact swords were taken from a japanese police station by a us soldier who told them that they should handed over
he gave his name as Sgt. Coldy Bimore (or something that sounded similar) of the Foreign Liquidations Commission
when people tried to trace the sword they asked the Foreign Liquidations Commission, and they said they never had a coldy bimore or any one with a name remotely similar
forgive my terrible post i meant to say
that sword and 13 other important artifact swords were taken from a japanese police station by a us soldier who asked that be handed over to him
he gave his name as Sgt. Coldy Bimore (or something that sounded similar) of the Foreign Liquidations Commission
when people tried to trace the swords they asked the Foreign Liquidations Commission, and they said they never had a coldy bimore or any one with a name remotely similar
So some random GI decided to pick up some loot off the books and ended up jacking 14 centuries old historic artifacts and now no one knows where the fuck they are?
yeah, pretty much
It was on the books. He was ordered to pick the loot up per the U.S. occupation army's weapons confiscation policy. What became of it from there...nobody knows.
photo: Coldy back at headquarters, perhaps.
Sold for scrap.
did some more reading, the 14 artifact swords belonged to the tokugawa family
dude, that's a sega baseball name
I wouldnt be supprised if they were targeted, some guy heard that the tokugawa families sword collection were at this police station, so he went to go and get them or was sent by someone else.
I saw one of the theories is that US officers targeted the swords as they would make excelent trophies.
"but the germans looted europe"
I have it. It's in my bedroom next to Mussolinis spaghetti strainer and Goerings crack pipe
Probably got sold for $20 at a gun show.
i think i looted it in final fantasy once
>family friends got grandpa katana from the war
>kids of the Japanese guy come knocking one day asking if they'd have the sword
>offer money
>family friends say no they haven't seen it
>sell it for higher elsewhere
kek
Mine
I don't think that's real. Most swords were made of iron, which rusts over time. Those blades are spotless. Probably made from stainless steel in the 80s. I'd give you $200 for them at most.
>Reddit screencap
>Alright, which one of you X """format"""
GO BACK.
>Leddit
Anyhow
Had a great uncle who got off a officer he plugged in the Philippines with 6th ranger bat. Was appraised around 10-12k.
It's in a custom shadow box in my cousin living room now. Looks really nice
90% of these swords got dumped in the ocean
They think it might be in the American South somewhere. Somebody did a bunch of research and thinks that they were able to determine the true identity of the soldier to whom it was passed. The researcher tracked down his family a few years back and enquired, but the family wouldn't cooperate. Either they had no knowledge of it or were maybe hiding something...
I've encountered several WWII katanas (nothing too valuable) in the hands of the descendants of the guys who brought them back. People have no clue what they have. That sword is probably in a cardboard box under the guest bed in grandma's basement somewhere and nobody knows what it is. It'll probably sell for $300 at a small-town estate sale someday.
Honestly, if I had it I would donate it to a museum, I appreciate and own a nihonto, and I understand that it is too precious to have its beauty squandered by private collecting
>I really hope it isn’t rusting away in some attic 🙁
Some kid found it in the attic and ruined it playing in the woods and chopping up trees and shit. Then buried it to keep it hidden, it is now rusting in the ground.
>ruined it playing in the woods and chopping up trees and shit.
It was made to chop tatami, lamellar, chainmail and bone not to mention being hit by other swords.
Alright you cunt, no sword is made to cut mail, and it’s not ideal for Japanese swords to contact other blades as once they deform they stay deformed unless maintenance is done, they are made of extremely hard steel, but once it deforms, it’s deformed, a European spring steel sword won’t permanently deform like a Japanese one will.
>TL;DR Japanese swords can be damaged and chipped by use against hard targets, and no sword is meant to be used against armor, that’s what a fucking club is for
No sword can actually withstand continued use for very long.
Aussies got loads. My grandfather came home with two and said they just had piles of them after the war.
Oh hey, I got that one.